To Shri Rath < Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa

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Dear Shri Rath

Please accept my namaskarams. It is an honor to correspond with you.

PK that I am referring is Putrakaraka. PK/DK together is a Jaimini

Rajayoga - according to Shri K.N Rao, in his book. I simply do not

know if it is in BPHS or not. My comment on Ak, AMk was written (as

I was thinking mentally), basically to say that they are not in

Dushtanas from Capricorn. Kindly ignore this, it has no relevance to

the Jaimini Analysis that I was doing and no basis.

 

The basic question as raised by Mr. Kartik remains unanswered. And I

request SJC Gurus to give their perspective on this. That is, for

the Native (April 30, 1981, Hyderabad, 18:12)will one predict

educational distinction or poor performance. I feel, I answered the

question clearly using Rasi/Navamsa. My other significant point was

in D24, how lagna changed from Taurus to Aries if one moved the time

from 18:12 to 18:09. Based on 18:09, and only looking at D24, one

can predict poor performance, which is not the case as it appears

that native did very well.

 

Sharma

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

> Dear Sharma Kindly clariy

> 1. What is Jaimini Rajyoga? Is this Rajyoga not mentoned in BPHS?

> 2. When you say PK, is this Putrakaraka or Pitrikaraka?

> 3. You say "Ak moon is in second and Amk Venus is in 4th house Not

bad at

> all." Can you kindly elucidate what is good or bad or not bad for

this

> combination.

>

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> * * *

> Sri Jagannath CenterR

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> New Delhi 110060, India

> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> * * *

>

>

> >

> >Sharma [nakshatras@g...]

> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:48 AM

> >vedic astrology

> >[vedic astrology] To Kartik< Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana

> >dasa (Re:Accident schematic)

> >

> >

> >

> >Two minute Jaimini analysis (I have to attend to other duties).

> >Capricorn period from 2001 April to 2005 April. Ninth house

> >has a Jaimini rajayoga (PK/DK together). This is the house of

> >higher learning and travel. Synthesize with what VD is

> >promising you have the answer. Ak moon is in second and Amk

> >venus is in 4th house. Not bad at all. See Cap-Virgo from 2002

> >April to 2002 August. Again 9th house is activated from Chara

> >Dasha. Foreign travel and Good luck.

> >

> >(I have not used any Arudha lagnas yet! I do know them -An

> >Andhra astrologet taught me).

> >

> >Praveen:

> >I am not sure what your question meant. Let me interpret it

> >this way. Are you asking what if Rasi-Navamsa contradict each

other?

> >Great question. Then I would stick with Rasi chart and do a

> >nakshatra based analysis of the planets in Rasi. This is an

opinion.

> >I have not tested on lots of horoscopes.

> >One example: Rasi will promise/indicate divorce, where as

> >navamsa will show Jupiter's aspect on 7th house. Generally

> >such cases -lot of fights, no divorce. There are and could be

> >exceptions. This is a question we should research on and test

> >on lots of horocopes or ask the opinion of learned members.

> >Sharma

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sharma ji

Yes, you are right about the sidhamsa changing in 3 minutes. Yu are looking

at the lagna and possible placement of Moon in 12th. As such Moon in chara

rasi in D24 will make the mind wonder around unless stabilised by by slower

planets like Jup. However we have the 4th lord well placed in the 5th house

promising a good schooling and 9th lord Saturn also well placed and having

parivartana with Jupiter. If this chart is right then at the college level

he would have changed his major direction or subjects. Let Kartik confirm

before I write more.

 

One more thing. Whether it is K.N.Rao or B.V.Raman or Sanjay Rath, we are

only gurus trying our level best to share the knowledge we have and *our*

understanding of Paräsara. Why don't you read BPHS for yourself and see what

the sage has to say about seven chara Käraka scheme. According to Paräçara

and Jaimini the seven chara käraka scheme has Pitrikaraka and Putra käraka

is not there. However K.N.Rao school uses putrakaraka instead of

Pitrikaraka. I am not saying K.N.Rao is wrong or right as God alone knows

who is right. All I am asking yu to do is to read the slokas yourself and

see what Paräçara and Jaimini have to say.

 

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

* * *

Sri Jagannath Center®

15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

* * *

 

 

>

>Sharma [nakshatras]

>Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:23 PM

>vedic astrology

>[vedic astrology] To Shri Rath < Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa

>

>

>

>Dear Shri Rath

>Please accept my namaskarams. It is an honor to correspond with you.

>PK that I am referring is Putrakaraka. PK/DK together is a

>Jaimini Rajayoga - according to Shri K.N Rao, in his book. I

>simply do not know if it is in BPHS or not. My comment on Ak,

>AMk was written (as I was thinking mentally), basically to say

>that they are not in Dushtanas from Capricorn. Kindly ignore

>this, it has no relevance to the Jaimini Analysis that I was

>doing and no basis.

>

>The basic question as raised by Mr. Kartik remains unanswered.

>And I request SJC Gurus to give their perspective on this.

>That is, for the Native (April 30, 1981, Hyderabad, 18:12)will

>one predict educational distinction or poor performance. I

>feel, I answered the question clearly using Rasi/Navamsa. My

>other significant point was in D24, how lagna changed from

>Taurus to Aries if one moved the time from 18:12 to 18:09.

>Based on 18:09, and only looking at D24, one can predict poor

>performance, which is not the case as it appears that native

>did very well.

>

>Sharma

>

>

>vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...>

>wrote:

>>

>>

>> Jaya Jagannatha

>> Dear Sharma Kindly clariy

>> 1. What is Jaimini Rajyoga? Is this Rajyoga not mentoned in BPHS?

>> 2. When you say PK, is this Putrakaraka or Pitrikaraka?

>> 3. You say "Ak moon is in second and Amk Venus is in 4th house Not

>bad at

>> all." Can you kindly elucidate what is good or bad or not bad for

>this

>> combination.

>>

>> With best wishes and warm regards,

>> Sanjay Rath

>> * * *

>> Sri Jagannath CenterR

>> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

>> New Delhi 110060, India

>> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

>> * * *

>>

>>

>> >

>> >Sharma [nakshatras@g...]

>> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:48 AM

>> >vedic astrology

>> >[vedic astrology] To Kartik< Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa

>> >(Re:Accident schematic)

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >Two minute Jaimini analysis (I have to attend to other duties).

>> >Capricorn period from 2001 April to 2005 April. Ninth house has a

>> >Jaimini rajayoga (PK/DK together). This is the house of higher

>> >learning and travel. Synthesize with what VD is promising you have

>> >the answer. Ak moon is in second and Amk venus is in 4th house. Not

>> >bad at all. See Cap-Virgo from 2002 April to 2002 August. Again 9th

>> >house is activated from Chara Dasha. Foreign travel and Good luck.

>> >

>> >(I have not used any Arudha lagnas yet! I do know them -An Andhra

>> >astrologet taught me).

>> >

>> >Praveen:

>> >I am not sure what your question meant. Let me interpret it

>this way.

>> >Are you asking what if Rasi-Navamsa contradict each

>other?

>> >Great question. Then I would stick with Rasi chart and do a

>nakshatra

>> >based analysis of the planets in Rasi. This is an

>opinion.

>> >I have not tested on lots of horoscopes.

>> >One example: Rasi will promise/indicate divorce, where as navamsa

>> >will show Jupiter's aspect on 7th house. Generally such

>cases -lot of

>> >fights, no divorce. There are and could be exceptions. This is a

>> >question we should research on and test on lots of horocopes or ask

>> >the opinion of learned members.

>> >Sharma

>

>

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Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Namasthe Guru Sanjay Ji,

 

I was just waiting for this kind of statement from you

 

 

"One more thing. Whether it is K.N.Rao or B.V.Raman

or Sanjay Rath, we are only gurus trying our level

best to share the knowledge we have and *our*

understanding of Paräsara"

 

Although I wish I had an iota of knowledge of what the

above mentioned greats have, I think I am eligible to

pass a comment based on my limited knowledge of the

holy science.

 

It is easy to pass judgements that so and so guru is

passing wrong(not based on the Sages teachings) is

very easy. It is akin to a commentator in a cricket

match judging how the batsmen should be playing(like

Ravi Shastri talking about how someone should hit a

square cut, although he never played one his lifetime,

that I have seen on TV).

 

It is very difficult to take on the responsbility of

being a Guru and passing on that knowledge and sharing

to the world, the understanding of all the Sages works

and the hundreds of hours of readings without

expecting anything in return. It requires a very big

heart.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but I read in books of Raman

and KN Rao ( I read very few books),references to

Dasamsa. For someone who is a total novice to

Divisional charts that would be a surprise(like a

bouncer in cricket :-)).By the grace of God, we have

the Gurus and the medium through which we got to know

something about Divisional charts or any other

concepts.

 

Shoudn't we be more thankful to the Almighty that we

got this medium of interaction and use this for the

betterment of the holy science(and make it a real

science) rather than let it go down because of petty

bickerings about whose knowledge is more authentic.

 

None of us or the translators have seen or heard

directly from Parasara, and again correct me if I am

wrong, there is no evidence that Parasara gave a

conclusion message at the end of BPHS, who knows we

might be missing some slokas that delve deeper into

the unknown.

 

Moderator, forgive me for writing non-astrological

matters on this list.

 

Elders/Gurus, forgive me I have offended anyone

unintentionally.

 

Regards,

 

Sai

 

--- Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

 

>

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

> Dear Sharma ji

> Yes, you are right about the sidhamsa changing in 3

> minutes. Yu are looking

> at the lagna and possible placement of Moon in 12th.

> As such Moon in chara

> rasi in D24 will make the mind wonder around unless

> stabilised by by slower

> planets like Jup. However we have the 4th lord well

> placed in the 5th house

> promising a good schooling and 9th lord Saturn also

> well placed and having

> parivartana with Jupiter. If this chart is right

> then at the college level

> he would have changed his major direction or

> subjects. Let Kartik confirm

> before I write more.

>

> One more thing. Whether it is K.N.Rao or B.V.Raman

> or Sanjay Rath, we are

> only gurus trying our level best to share the

> knowledge we have and *our*

> understanding of Paräsara. Why don't you read BPHS

> for yourself and see what

> the sage has to say about seven chara Käraka scheme.

> According to Paräçara

> and Jaimini the seven chara käraka scheme has

> Pitrikaraka and Putra käraka

> is not there. However K.N.Rao school uses

> putrakaraka instead of

> Pitrikaraka. I am not saying K.N.Rao is wrong or

> right as God alone knows

> who is right. All I am asking yu to do is to read

> the slokas yourself and

> see what Paräçara and Jaimini have to say.

>

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> * * *

> Sri Jagannath Center®

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> New Delhi 110060, India

> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> * * *

>

>

> >

> >Sharma [nakshatras]

> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:23 PM

> >vedic astrology

> >[vedic astrology] To Shri Rath < Fw:

> Shodasamsa Narayana dasa

> >

> >

> >

> >Dear Shri Rath

> >Please accept my namaskarams. It is an honor to

> correspond with you.

> >PK that I am referring is Putrakaraka. PK/DK

> together is a

> >Jaimini Rajayoga - according to Shri K.N Rao, in

> his book. I

> >simply do not know if it is in BPHS or not. My

> comment on Ak,

> >AMk was written (as I was thinking mentally),

> basically to say

> >that they are not in Dushtanas from Capricorn.

> Kindly ignore

> >this, it has no relevance to the Jaimini Analysis

> that I was

> >doing and no basis.

> >

> >The basic question as raised by Mr. Kartik remains

> unanswered.

> >And I request SJC Gurus to give their perspective

> on this.

> >That is, for the Native (April 30, 1981, Hyderabad,

> 18:12)will

> >one predict educational distinction or poor

> performance. I

> >feel, I answered the question clearly using

> Rasi/Navamsa. My

> >other significant point was in D24, how lagna

> changed from

> >Taurus to Aries if one moved the time from 18:12 to

> 18:09.

> >Based on 18:09, and only looking at D24, one can

> predict poor

> >performance, which is not the case as it appears

> that native

> >did very well.

> >

> >Sharma

> >

> >

> >vedic astrology, "Sanjay

> Rath" <guruji@s...>

> >wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> Jaya Jagannatha

> >> Dear Sharma Kindly clariy

> >> 1. What is Jaimini Rajyoga? Is this Rajyoga not

> mentoned in BPHS?

> >> 2. When you say PK, is this Putrakaraka or

> Pitrikaraka?

> >> 3. You say "Ak moon is in second and Amk Venus is

> in 4th house Not

> >bad at

> >> all." Can you kindly elucidate what is good or

> bad or not bad for

> >this

> >> combination.

> >>

> >> With best wishes and warm regards,

> >> Sanjay Rath

> >> * * *

> >> Sri Jagannath CenterR

> >> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> >> New Delhi 110060, India

> >> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> >> * * *

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> >Sharma [nakshatras@g...]

> >> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:48 AM

> >> >vedic astrology

> >> >[vedic astrology] To Kartik< Fw:

> Shodasamsa Narayana dasa

> >> >(Re:Accident schematic)

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Two minute Jaimini analysis (I have to attend to

> other duties).

> >> >Capricorn period from 2001 April to 2005 April.

> Ninth house has a

> >> >Jaimini rajayoga (PK/DK together). This is the

> house of higher

> >> >learning and travel. Synthesize with what VD is

> promising you have

> >> >the answer. Ak moon is in second and Amk venus

> is in 4th house. Not

> >> >bad at all. See Cap-Virgo from 2002 April to

> 2002 August. Again 9th

> >> >house is activated from Chara Dasha. Foreign

> travel and Good luck.

> >> >

> >> >(I have not used any Arudha lagnas yet! I do

> know them -An Andhra

> >> >astrologet taught me).

> >> >

> >> >Praveen:

> >> >I am not sure what your question meant. Let me

> interpret it

> >this way.

> >> >Are you asking what if Rasi-Navamsa contradict

> each

> >other?

> >> >Great question. Then I would stick with Rasi

> chart and do a

> >nakshatra

> >> >based analysis of the planets in Rasi. This is

> an

> >opinion.

> >> >I have not tested on lots of horoscopes.

> >> >One example: Rasi will promise/indicate divorce,

> where as navamsa

> >> >will show Jupiter's aspect on 7th house.

> Generally such

> >cases -lot of

> >> >fights, no divorce. There are and could be

> exceptions. This is a

> >> >question we should research on and test on lots

> of horocopes or ask

> >> >the opinion of learned members.

> >> >Sharma

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Rathji

 

Thank you for the response. I had arrived at the same conclusion as

yours (message 52714,good period for education, looking at D24 with

18:12 as birth time). However, I had used rasi fifth lord saturn in

D24 and fifth lord of D24 -Mercury in seventh house.I do realize the

differences of opinion among astrolgers regarding fourth and fifth

house (abilities and education). On a separate note, I had predicted

that this person must have come to USA with some kind of

assitantship -that is also true as Kartik confirmed with me.

 

I do appreciate the suggestion of asking me to read the slokas. I

intend to do so soon. It is always great to hear and learn from our

elders and pandits like you.

 

Sharma

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...>

wrote:

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

> Dear Sharma ji

> Yes, you are right about the sidhamsa changing in 3 minutes. Yu

are looking

> at the lagna and possible placement of Moon in 12th. As such Moon

in chara

> rasi in D24 will make the mind wonder around unless stabilised by

by slower

> planets like Jup. However we have the 4th lord well placed in the

5th house

> promising a good schooling and 9th lord Saturn also well placed

and having

> parivartana with Jupiter. If this chart is right then at the

college level

> he would have changed his major direction or subjects. Let Kartik

confirm

> before I write more.

>

> One more thing. Whether it is K.N.Rao or B.V.Raman or Sanjay Rath,

we are

> only gurus trying our level best to share the knowledge we have

and *our*

> understanding of Paräsara. Why don't you read BPHS for yourself

and see what

> the sage has to say about seven chara Käraka scheme. According to

Paräçara

> and Jaimini the seven chara käraka scheme has Pitrikaraka and

Putra käraka

> is not there. However K.N.Rao school uses putrakaraka instead of

> Pitrikaraka. I am not saying K.N.Rao is wrong or right as God

alone knows

> who is right. All I am asking yu to do is to read the slokas

yourself and

> see what Paräçara and Jaimini have to say.

>

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> * * *

> Sri Jagannath Center®

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> New Delhi 110060, India

> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> * * *

>

>

> >

> >Sharma [nakshatras@g...]

> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:23 PM

> >vedic astrology

> >[vedic astrology] To Shri Rath < Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana

dasa

> >

> >

> >

> >Dear Shri Rath

> >Please accept my namaskarams. It is an honor to correspond with

you.

> >PK that I am referring is Putrakaraka. PK/DK together is a

> >Jaimini Rajayoga - according to Shri K.N Rao, in his book. I

> >simply do not know if it is in BPHS or not. My comment on Ak,

> >AMk was written (as I was thinking mentally), basically to say

> >that they are not in Dushtanas from Capricorn. Kindly ignore

> >this, it has no relevance to the Jaimini Analysis that I was

> >doing and no basis.

> >

> >The basic question as raised by Mr. Kartik remains unanswered.

> >And I request SJC Gurus to give their perspective on this.

> >That is, for the Native (April 30, 1981, Hyderabad, 18:12)will

> >one predict educational distinction or poor performance. I

> >feel, I answered the question clearly using Rasi/Navamsa. My

> >other significant point was in D24, how lagna changed from

> >Taurus to Aries if one moved the time from 18:12 to 18:09.

> >Based on 18:09, and only looking at D24, one can predict poor

> >performance, which is not the case as it appears that native

> >did very well.

> >

> >Sharma

> >

> >

> >vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

<guruji@s...>

> >wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> Jaya Jagannatha

> >> Dear Sharma Kindly clariy

> >> 1. What is Jaimini Rajyoga? Is this Rajyoga not mentoned in

BPHS?

> >> 2. When you say PK, is this Putrakaraka or Pitrikaraka?

> >> 3. You say "Ak moon is in second and Amk Venus is in 4th house

Not

> >bad at

> >> all." Can you kindly elucidate what is good or bad or not bad

for

> >this

> >> combination.

> >>

> >> With best wishes and warm regards,

> >> Sanjay Rath

> >> * * *

> >> Sri Jagannath CenterR

> >> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> >> New Delhi 110060, India

> >> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> >> * * *

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> >Sharma [nakshatras@g...]

> >> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:48 AM

> >> >vedic astrology

> >> >[vedic astrology] To Kartik< Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana

dasa

> >> >(Re:Accident schematic)

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Two minute Jaimini analysis (I have to attend to other

duties).

> >> >Capricorn period from 2001 April to 2005 April. Ninth house

has a

> >> >Jaimini rajayoga (PK/DK together). This is the house of higher

> >> >learning and travel. Synthesize with what VD is promising you

have

> >> >the answer. Ak moon is in second and Amk venus is in 4th

house. Not

> >> >bad at all. See Cap-Virgo from 2002 April to 2002 August.

Again 9th

> >> >house is activated from Chara Dasha. Foreign travel and Good

luck.

> >> >

> >> >(I have not used any Arudha lagnas yet! I do know them -An

Andhra

> >> >astrologet taught me).

> >> >

> >> >Praveen:

> >> >I am not sure what your question meant. Let me interpret it

> >this way.

> >> >Are you asking what if Rasi-Navamsa contradict each

> >other?

> >> >Great question. Then I would stick with Rasi chart and do a

> >nakshatra

> >> >based analysis of the planets in Rasi. This is an

> >opinion.

> >> >I have not tested on lots of horoscopes.

> >> >One example: Rasi will promise/indicate divorce, where as

navamsa

> >> >will show Jupiter's aspect on 7th house. Generally such

> >cases -lot of

> >> >fights, no divorce. There are and could be exceptions. This is

a

> >> >question we should research on and test on lots of horocopes

or ask

> >> >the opinion of learned members.

> >> >Sharma

> >

> >

> >

> >

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