Chopper Accident & Chart of It's commencement from Chandigadh

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Pathak, Namaskar

 

In Mundane charts, there is no Putra Karaka, so you need to remove

Rahu & PK to arrive at 7 charakarakas. You can choose 7 CK scheme

option in JH and see how it is.

 

Fact is that from what you wrote, One CK replacement is there. Means,

Rahu comes into picture!

 

In mundane chart with CK replacement, it is seen that they end up in

disaster. eg., Challenger!

 

Off course it is not everything, timing is another aspect of it. That

is done with transits!

 

regards

suryaviswanadham

 

vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

> Namaskar Viswanadham,

>

> There are 2 CK replacement. first one is that of MK & PK and other

is of GK & DK.

>

> hence Rahu comes in place of PK Sun & Venus comes in place of DK

Mars. Rahu & Sun is Under Eclipse & Aspected by Saturn and Venus is

also there with Sun & Rahu.

>

> regards,

>

> Pathak

>

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Viswanadhan saab,

 

YES, I have used 7 CK scheme only in accordance with the Munadane

incident. but there is some controversies about PK or PIK in 7 CK,

offcourse Rahu is excluded & comes in when 2 CK are on the same

degree but that can be a quite frequent phenomina hence I am not sure

if Rahu's entry is a sure disaster though it may act as a catalyst to

already horific situation.

 

If you go to JHL S/W you'll find that PVR has used PK IN 7 CK Scheme.

 

Sanjayji favours PIK in 7 CK but at the same time he also observes

that a section of Astrologers uses PK in 7 CK. (I have seen his paper

on 7&8 Char Karka Scheme)

 

what do you say?

 

regards,

Pathak

 

 

vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham"

<vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Dear Pathak, Namaskar

>

> In Mundane charts, there is no Putra Karaka, so you need to remove

> Rahu & PK to arrive at 7 charakarakas. You can choose 7 CK scheme

> option in JH and see how it is.

>

> Fact is that from what you wrote, One CK replacement is there.

Means,

> Rahu comes into picture!

>

> In mundane chart with CK replacement, it is seen that they end up

in

> disaster. eg., Challenger!

>

> Off course it is not everything, timing is another aspect of it.

That

> is done with transits!

>

> regards

> suryaviswanadham

>

> vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak

> <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > Namaskar Viswanadham,

> >

> > There are 2 CK replacement. first one is that of MK & PK and

other

> is of GK & DK.

> >

> > hence Rahu comes in place of PK Sun & Venus comes in place of

DK

> Mars. Rahu & Sun is Under Eclipse & Aspected by Saturn and Venus is

> also there with Sun & Rahu.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Pathak

> >

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Pathak, Namaskar

 

Good. In SJ sofware,7 CK is meant for a different school, probably.

Not meant for mundane necessarily. let us leave it.

 

Let us not use this logic, that replacements are common etc.,

 

Certain mundane charts have higher longivity - lasting 5 years etc.,

For some like the fated journey, it could be 30 mts or less!

 

So, Rahu should be able to influence the event in the short time. So,

you will definetly see severe afflictions to Sun the karaka, Vehicle

(4th house), karaka for journeys - venus etc., Not necessary that

they are primary and replacement is secondary.

 

You said you read the article, so you know all about it. Sun is

ecclipsed in the chart by Rahu!

 

Thanks for you reply. We will discuss it when we sit together, after

the ecclipse on 8-9th April.

 

regards

suryaviswanadham

 

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

>

> Namaskar Viswanadhan saab,

>

> YES, I have used 7 CK scheme only in accordance with the Munadane

> incident. but there is some controversies about PK or PIK in 7 CK,

> offcourse Rahu is excluded & comes in when 2 CK are on the same

> degree but that can be a quite frequent phenomina hence I am not

sure

> if Rahu's entry is a sure disaster though it may act as a catalyst

to

> already horific situation.

>

> If you go to JHL S/W you'll find that PVR has used PK IN 7 CK

Scheme.

>

> Sanjayji favours PIK in 7 CK but at the same time he also observes

> that a section of Astrologers uses PK in 7 CK. (I have seen his

paper

> on 7&8 Char Karka Scheme)

>

> what do you say?

>

> regards,

> Pathak

>

>

> vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham"

> <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Dear Pathak, Namaskar

> >

> > In Mundane charts, there is no Putra Karaka, so you need to

remove

> > Rahu & PK to arrive at 7 charakarakas. You can choose 7 CK scheme

> > option in JH and see how it is.

> >

> > Fact is that from what you wrote, One CK replacement is there.

> Means,

> > Rahu comes into picture!

> >

> > In mundane chart with CK replacement, it is seen that they end up

> in

> > disaster. eg., Challenger!

> >

> > Off course it is not everything, timing is another aspect of it.

> That

> > is done with transits!

> >

> > regards

> > suryaviswanadham

> >

> > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak

> > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > Namaskar Viswanadham,

> > >

> > > There are 2 CK replacement. first one is that of MK & PK and

> other

> > is of GK & DK.

> > >

> > > hence Rahu comes in place of PK Sun & Venus comes in place of

> DK

> > Mars. Rahu & Sun is Under Eclipse & Aspected by Saturn and Venus

is

> > also there with Sun & Rahu.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Pathak

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear All ,

 

When we look at this accident , I believe it cannot be done in isolation . The

two gentlemen in question had registered great successs of their lives just two

weeks ago . This means the 2 7 11 houses of their horoscope were in activation .

That incident needs to be considered alongwith this one .

 

Regards ,

 

Anand

 

Utpal Pathak

vedic astrology

Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:27 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Chopper Accident & Chart of It's commencement from Chandigadh

Namaskar Viswanadham,

 

There are 2 CK replacement. first one is that of MK & PK and other is of GK & DK.

 

hence Rahu comes in place of PK Sun & Venus comes in place of DK Mars. Rahu &

Sun is Under Eclipse & Aspected by Saturn and Venus is also there with Sun &

Rahu.

 

regards,

 

Pathak

SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham > wrote:

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Pathak, NamaskarPls check if there is a chara karaka

replacement in the commencement of the journey chart.Could be devastating like

this , if Rahu comes into picture in mundane charts. ( They have only 7

charakarakas, with no putra karaka).regardssuryaviswanadham--- In

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > >

All Gurus & members,> > Today one ill fated Chopper crashed near Sarhanpur which

carried OP > Jindal (Prominent Industrialist & MP, one more MP (Son of

Bansilal)& > other 2 or 3 members.> > The time reported of Commencement of the

Chopper from Chandigadh is > 11.50 IST 31.03.2005, Chandigadh, 76E47 30N44> >

following points occured to me while analysing the Chart.> > 1)The 3rd House

(for Short journey) is afflicted by Saturns 3rd > aspect & 8th aspect of Mars.

needless to say that for Gemini Lagna > Mars is a worst malefic & saturn is 8th

lord sitting in Lagna.> > 2)Mars & Ketu are lords of Mritu pada (A8) and also

the Sixth house. > Mars is powerful in 8th house as lord of A8 & 6th and

afflicts 2nd & > 3rd house where as Ketu the other co-lord of A8 & 6th is in

the 4th > (Comfort - Air travel also relates to Comfort & luxury) afflicting

it.> 4th house is under seviour affliction as it carries KETU, GURU >

(Badhak,Marak,KDPD) & it's lord is debiliated in 10th with Rahu & Sun.> > 3)

Sun, Mercury & Venus (Karka of Luxurios air travel) all are > afflicted with

Rahu-ketu axis, & Saturn. Guru adds fuel to fire.> > 4) Simply speaking, Mars

powerfully placed in the 8th, Saturn in the > Lagna & Mercury debiliated in

10th greatly speaks of Misfortune of > the Travelling undertaken.> > 5) over &

above,last straw is that Moon is also ill placed in A8 & > 6th house & it

happens to be lord of A6 (Shatrupada). A4 is in Lagna > so all the above

terrible afflictions which is affecting Lagna also > applies to it to make the

Accident & Deaths inevitable.> > 6) Intrestingly if one looks at D60-AMSA then

again it boils down to > same result - Lagna->Visha Dagdha, Sun & venus-Kali

Nassa, Mars & > Mercury - Davagni, Rahu & Ketu - Ghora.> > 7) Sun, Venus, Rahu

& Venus involvement indicates WEALTHY, > Influential, Powerful & Intelligent

Victims. Mercury is lord of HL & > Venus is lord of GL. Rahu & Sun indicates

Politicians who were also > in Power. Mercury indicative o f Business people.>

> Finally, when it crashed, Cancer was rising which is a Marka House > for

Muhurt chart.> > I pray All powerful, Bhagwan to bestow peace on departed

Souls.> > PathakArchives: vedic astrologyGroup

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