Guest guest Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 I know this can be very rediculous question, but pls enlightened me Thanxs and regards Richa Guptautpal pathak <vedic_pathak > wrote: Namaste Richa,I am giving you some details of conversation about Argala. It'll help you to understand the concept..Best Regards,Utpal PathakAARRGGAALLAA, ,, Argala? QUESTION BY MR.GAURANGA DASI have read the chapter on Argala in the BPHS, but I couldn't understand anything.Could You please explain the principles of Argala to me?=> ANSWER BY MR.SARAT CHANDERArgala means intervention in the affairs of a sign (Rashi) or graha by another rashi orgraha.Argala can be of two types viz., (i) Shubhargala (good intervention) caused by beneficrasi/graha, and (ii) Papargala (bad intervention) caused by malefic rasi/graha.However, such Argala is also obstructed by other rasi/graha.The strength, effect and prevalence of the Argala or obstruction to the argala isdetermined from the strength of the rasi/graha (determined by the standard methods)causing the Argala and obstruction. The result of the stronger of the two causes it(Argala/obstruction) to prevail.The following rules explain the cause of Argala and the obstruction to it:Cause of argalaRULE - IThe rasi or planet(s) in the 2nd, 4th and 11th houses from a rasi/graha intervene orcause `Argala' in the affairs of the latter. (UPSJ: 1.1.4)RULE – IIMalefic rasi/planet(s) in the 3rd from a rasi/graha also cause `Argala' on the said rasi.(Note: A malefic/malefics in the 3rd not only cause obstruction of the Argala of the 11thrasi/graha, but they themselves cause Argala simultaneously.RULE – IIIThe rasi/graha in the 5th also cause secondary level `Argala' on the said rasi.Obstruction of argalaRULE – IThe rasi/graha in the 3rd, 10th and 12th from a rasi/graha obstruct the Argala.RULE – IIThe rasi/graha in the 9th obstructs the Argala caused by the rasi/graha in the 5th (Rule –III above).Exception regarding KetuIn the case of a sign occupied by Ketu, the reckoning of both Argala and Obstructioncaused by the said rasi/Ketu is always done in the reverse direction (anti clockwise).? FOLLOW-UP QUESTION BY MR.NARASIMHA RAO ON KETUEXCEPTIONYou said, "EXCEPTION REGARDING KETU In the case of a sign occupied byKetu, the reckoning of both Argala and Obstruction caused by the said rais/Ketuis always done in the reverse direction (anti clockwise)."Is it "caused by" or "caused on"?I have so far been under the impression that the exception applies when we findargala *on* the sign containing Ketu (not *by* the sign). Let us say Ketu is inLibra. When we find argalas on Cancer, Libra and Ketu cause argala being in the4th from Cancer. But, when we find argalas *on* Libra, they are caused by 2nd,4th and 11th counted in reverse, i.e. by Vi, Cn and Sg. This is the way Iunderstood it and possibly it is wrong.=> ANSWER BY PT.SANJAY RATHYour understanding is correct. Argala means planetary or sign intervention andthey are caused on signs and planets alike. The primary ones the 2nd, 4th & 11thand they are obstructed by the 12th, 10th and 3rd respectively. As regards Ketu,the reckoning is always in the reverse. Thus, for example, my AL is Sagittariusand has Ketu in it. Thus for Ketu the 2nd, 4th and 11th counted in the reverse isScorpio, Virgo and Aquarius that cause Argala. The planets in these signs alsocause Argala on Ketu.However, the AL is Sagittarius and the Argala on the AL is reckoned in theregular order i.e the 2nd, 4th and 11th from Sagittarius or Capricorn, Pisces andLibra intervene in its affairs. Thus the presence of Saturn in the 2nd, Sun in the8th and Ketu in AL causes Kemadruma (Poverty) Yoga which has resulted intaking up a service which can never make the two ends meet!! I guess all honestGovt. servants in India will be in such a predicament. Fortunately, theMokshkaraka Ketu has Subha Argala in the 11th in Aquarius and due to my Keturelated activities I have received gifts and donations to improve my lot. Thus inLeo Dasa Aquarius Antardasa my elder brother gifted me a Car!! (We shouldalso see the aspect of Aquarius on the A4 in Libra for this not ignoring its Argalaon the 4th house as well.) Moon aspected by Venus can be a Dhana Yoga.? ANOTHER FOLLOW-UP QUESTION BY DINA-NATHA DAS1.What does that mean that malefic(s) in 3rd cause Argala themselvessimultaneously? 2.What is the secondary level Argala? I couldn't find anyexplanation about secondary level Argala in BPHS. What is the differencebetween primary and secondary Argala?Regarding Exception of Ketu, In BHPS ch. 31. Verses 2-9, Santhanam'stranslation, it is said: "As the nodes have retrograde motions, the Argalasand obstructions be also counted accordingly in a reverse manner."Since Santhanam used plural for words node and motion, that wouldindicate that wants to say that we should use reverse counting forreckoning Argala for both nodes, Rahu and Ketu. Later in the notes on thesame verse he is giving an example where he is counting in reverse orderto reckon the Argala of Rahu which confirms the above verse from BPHS.Also there is very important rule about Argala in the verse 10 of ch 31.: "The Argala caused by placement of a planet in the first one fourth part ofthe Rasi is countered by another placed in the 4th quarter of the respectiveobstructive Rasi. Similarly 2nd quarter's Argala is eliminated by the 3rdquarter placement."Santhanam explains: "If the Argala causing planet is in the first quarter(or first 7 degrees 30 minutes of the sign), while the obstructing planet isin the 4th quarter (22degrees 30 minutes to 30 degrees), the obstructionindeed will come to pass... Likewise while the Argala planet is in the 2ndquarter of the sign (i.e. 7 degrees 30 minutes to 15 degrees), theobstruction (planet in 15degrees to 22 degrees 30 minutes i.e. 3rd quarter)will combat the Argala."=> ANSWER BY PT.SANJAY RATHMalefics in the third suo-moto cause Argala as they also simultaneouslyobstruct the Argala of the 11th house. Since the 11th is the house ofGains, the objective is not gained and the person has to usePARAKRAMA BALA to achieve the objective. Thus, the gain is initiallydenied and the native fights for it and gains it at a later stage.As regards the Chaturthamsa usage for determining the efficacy of theArgala and its obstruction, this is Bhagya (fortune/Destiny) and we shalldiscuss this later. I have already explained earlier that the reversecounting is for Ketu ONLY and not for Rahu as along with the otherplanets Rahu is the cause of rebirth and the fruits. Ketu is the ONLYplanet that is working like Ganapati (Tapasya) to take us to Narayana i.e.Moksha. Hence Ketu's Argala is in the reverse as it indicates the planetsfavouring or disfavouring the attaining of Moksha. For example, I haveKetu in the AL in Sagittarius with the Moon in Aquarius and no planet inLibra. Thus, the Moon in the 3rd from the AL shows the nature of deathand this is unobstructed.Moon is also in the 11th from Ketu counted in the reverse direction andhelps in the gain of the objective of Moksha and this Argala isunobstructed. Thus on the one hand the Moon gives death, and on theother it aids Moksha which can be achieved, in the real sense after death.I hope with this example it is amply clear that the reverse count is only forKetu because it is the Moksha karaka.? ANOTHER FOLLOW-UP QUESTION BYMR.NARASIMHA ON THE ABOVE EXAMPLE.This is a convenient example with Ketu in the arudha lagna.Because of Ketu is in AL, 3rd from AL and 11th from Ketu (inreverse) coincide and you have nice logic. This is not always true.If someone has Ketu is in Sg, Moon in Li and AL in Le, he can say:"see - the 11th from Ketu (directly counted) has Moon and 3rdfrom AL also has Moon. So Moon gives death and helps in the gainof the objective of Moksha" and present a case for forwardcounting for Ketu also.No, I am not questioning "vipareetam ketoh" exception. I acceptedthat argala caused *by* Ketu and his sign are counted in reverse,because Jaimini maharshi and you taught so. However, I stillcannot see any logic behind this. I am referring to the concludingremark quoted above. I still can't see the relation between reversecounting for Ketu and Ketu being Moksha karaka.I am not satisfied by the explanation you gave and will wait formore explanation later.? RELATED QUESTION BY MR.DINAKARANTwo malefic planets occupied in each two bhava 5th and 9th . 9th bhava obstructs theargala. The same number of planets occupied in each house now is the obstructionremoved or not removed. How does it conclude? Does any remedy to remove theobstruction? Please clarify with need example.Have any rules to cancel " The Karaka bhava nasa" ?=> ANSWER BY PT.SANJAY RATHNice question. If the Argala and its obstruction are equally strong, it constitutes abandhana Yoga (Bondage). If malefics alone are involved, and if this is in the 2-12 or 5-9houses, then this can cause actual physical bondage like kidnapping or jail. Rahu andSaturn involved gives being beaten with chains or other forms of torture while Gulikaafflicting shows the use of poisonous substances.This world can be very evil for some people depending on their karma. That is why Ialways look for natural benefics in these places.? ANOTHER RELATED QUESTION ON ARGALA BY MR.SATISHAppreciate if someone can answer the questions on argala. I don't think I understandargala. i.e. What is a good argala and what is bad argala. Does it depend on the planetcausing the argala.=> ANSWER BY MR.NARASIMHA RAOYes. Think of this question: What is a good aspect and what is a bad aspect?Argalas by malefics are bad and argalas by benefics are good. Let me give an example.Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi's D-10 has lagna and Venus in Gemini, Sun in Cancer andSaturn and Mercury in Aries. Lagna in D-10 shows one's true nature when moving insociety (i.e. in career). Let us take the argalas on lagna. Sun casts an argala and so doMercury and Saturn. What are the results?Mercury's argala shows that he may be intellectual in nature. Saturn's argala on lagnacan make him humble. Sun's argala may make him forceful and authoritative. How canone be humble and authoritative? Well, you can see both these qualities in himdepending on dasa and transit influences. But the dominating influence will be Sun's,because Saturn is debilitated and weak.Why did I say Saturn's argala gives humility, which is a word with a positive spin on it?Why not introvert nature, inhibition, servile behavior etc, which have a negative spin?Similarly, why did I say Sun's argala on dasamsa lagna makes him forceful andauthoritative in his movement in the society (which is somewhat negative)? Why can't itmake him a charming and charismatic leader (which is positive)? The answer has to dowith benefic/malefic argalas.Each planet's influence on each house can have a positive spin as well as negative spin.A positive influence, consistent with the nature of the planet, can be exerted when it hasa benefic argala. A negative influence, consistent with the nature of the planet, can beexerted when it has a malefic argala.Here Saturn owns 8th and 9th from lagna and he is a functional benefic. So his argalaon lagna can give humble nature (positive) and not servile, introvert and inhibited nature(negative). Sun, OTOH, is a functional malefic as he owns 3rd house and he gives aforceful and authoritative nature (negative) and not a charismatic and charmingpersonality (positive).[Note: To find functional benefics and malefics for a lagna, follow Parasara and notmodern day savants! What Parasara taught is perfect. If it doesn't make sense to you orif it doesn't work for you, it must be that you misunderstood him! While on the topic ofstrict adherence of Parasari principles of functional nature of planets, look for my articleon "Kendradhipati dosha" (the malice of a benefic's ownership of a quadrant) in SuryaPrakash memorial issue of "The Astrological Magazine" - Sept 1999.]Another example: Madonna's D-10 has ghati lagna and Venus in Taurus and Saturncauses argala on ghati lagna from Pisces. With Saturn being a yogakaraka (owner of 9thand 10th) from Taurus, his argala is benefic. What does it give her? Humility?In the previous example, we were dealing with lagna. Lagna shows true nature, arudhalagna shows perceptions and ghati lagna shows power and authority. When we considerplanets and houses, we have to choose what they stand for based on the varga(divisional chart) at hand and the reference point at hand (lagna, arudha lagna, ghatilagna etc). This is why classics give many qualities for the same planet. In the case oflagna, the positive quality Saturn gives is humility. In the case of ghati lagna (fame,power and authority), Saturn signifies popularity among masses. So yogakarakaSaturn's benefic argala on ghati lagna made her popular among masses.Final example: Sanjay's D-24 (chart of knowledge) has a benefic argala of Saturn onlagna and benefic argala of Sun on ghati lagna. In matters of knowledge, he is a humbleperson because of Saturn's benefic argala on lagna (despite Saturn's debilitation). Inmatters of knowledge, he is popular among politicians and powerful men, because ofSun's argala on ghati lagna. As far as matters related to ghati lagna (fame and power)are concerned, Saturn signifies mass following and Sun signifies following in the rulingclass.As I keep trying to show you again and again, different divisional charts and differentlagnas cover different dimensions of human life. Attempting to cover all those with onelagna and one chart results in ambiguity and eventually loss of confidence in classics.Parasara wasn't fooling around when he defined special lagnas and divisional charts.They have specific purposes. Also he did not mention argalas for fun. They too have apurpose.Hope you have learnt something from these freewheeling thoughts....--- In vedic astrology, "richas_lucky" <richas_lucky> wrote:> > Respected Gurujan..> What is argala and how it work. I hv read argala for any planet and > sgn is 2,4,11 planet and houses are called argala.> > But sir why this principle of Argala come in light? And benfic argala > is good and malefic argala will give bad results...> In reading of chart is reading of this important???> > Thanxs and regards> RichaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Make your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Richa Ji, Namaskar Try to understand the houses (bhavas)involved in the argalas and virodhargalas. Degrees?! :-)) You need to understand what each bhava represents very well to understand argalas. regards Suryaviswanadham vedic astrology, Richa Gupta <richas_lucky> wrote: > Respected sir, Utpal ji I hv just finished the e-mail. In reality it is very knowledgable and i can understand the theory of Argala and answer of different questions related Argala.I want to know only one question that 1 st rashi to second rashi there is different of 30 degree like this 4th rashi difference is 90 degree and 11th rashi diffrence is 300 degree. Like this 3rd house,10 house and 12th house has difference of 60,270,330 degree so what is the cause in this theory that On these degrees Argala and obstructor of Argala works?????? > I know this can be very rediculous question, but pls enlightened me > Thanxs and regards > Richa Gupta > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 I can see your enthusiasm over vedic astrology. actually as shri vishwanadham has indicated (degrees :-) ) i also felt the same way. don't for a minute think that we are making any fun out of it. I just want to quote opinion about great Dr B.V.Raman & his Grand father. they have several time indicated that a lot of mathemetics in to predictive part tend to confuse one. ARGALA --> In ancient times, The wooden doors of the houses had Big Wooden Locks that was called 'Argala'. that is how the name & concept has come up (As per my information). As eveident for the material i sent you, Argala & it's obstruction has to do with the BHAVA Involved in the concept. for Argala -->2nd is sustenance, 4th is all kinds of Sukha & 11 th is all gains. same way for Obstruction of Argala --> 12 th is losses, 3rd is efforts, 10th working & activities (read hardwork), respectively. I think in very brief i tried to give you some idea. my suggetions will be not to go deep in degrees. best regards, Utpal PathakSuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Richa Ji, NamaskarTry to understand the houses (bhavas)involved in the argalas and virodhargalas. Degrees?! :-))You need to understand what each bhava represents very well to understand argalas.regardsSuryaviswanadhamvedic astrology, Richa Gupta <richas_lucky> wrote:> Respected sir, Utpal ji I hv just finished the e-mail. In reality it is very knowledgable and i can understand the theory of Argala and answer of different questions related Argala.I want to know only one question that 1 st rashi to second rashi there is different of 30 degree like this 4th rashi difference is 90 degree and 11th rashi diffrence is 300 degree. Like this 3rd house,10 house and 12th house has difference of 60,270,330 degree so what is the cause in this theory that On these degrees Argala and obstructor of Argala works??????> I know this can be very rediculous question, but pls enlightened me> Thanxs and regards> Richa Gupta> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 No, not making fun... infact the entire sign is giving argala/ virodha. 2nd house argala is called dhana argala, 4th is called sukha argala & 11th as Labha argala. These are the three primary argalas. There are secondary argalas also. Off hand i do not recall anything on the net.. if i remember i'll post you something. Hare Rama Krishna regards Suryaviswanadham vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > Dear Richa, > > I can see your enthusiasm over vedic astrology. actually as shri vishwanadham has indicated (degrees :-) ) i also felt the same way. don't for a minute think that we are making any fun out of it. > I just want to quote opinion about great Dr B.V.Raman & his Grand father. they have several time indicated that a lot of mathemetics in to predictive part tend to confuse one. > > ARGALA --> In ancient times, The wooden doors of the houses had Big Wooden Locks that was called 'Argala'. that is how the name & concept has come up (As per my information). > > As eveident for the material i sent you, Argala & it's obstruction has to do with the BHAVA Involved in the concept. for Argala -->2nd is sustenance, 4th is all kinds of Sukha & 11 th is all gains. same way for Obstruction of Argala --> 12 th is losses, 3rd is efforts, 10th working & activities (read hardwork), respectively. > > I think in very brief i tried to give you some idea. my suggetions will be not to go deep in degrees. > > best regards, > > Utpal Pathak > > SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Richa Ji, Namaskar > > Try to understand the houses (bhavas)involved in the argalas and > virodhargalas. Degrees?! :-)) > > You need to understand what each bhava represents very well to > understand argalas. > > regards > Suryaviswanadham > > > vedic astrology, Richa Gupta > <richas_lucky> wrote: > > Respected sir, Utpal ji I hv just finished the e-mail. In reality > it is very knowledgable and i can understand the theory of Argala and > answer of different questions related Argala.I want to know only one > question that 1 st rashi to second rashi there is different of 30 > degree like this 4th rashi difference is 90 degree and 11th rashi > diffrence is 300 degree. Like this 3rd house,10 house and 12th house > has difference of 60,270,330 degree so what is the cause in this > theory that On these degrees Argala and obstructor of Argala > works?????? > > I know this can be very rediculous question, but pls enlightened me > > Thanxs and regards > > Richa Gupta > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > Children InternationalWould you give Hope to a Child in need? ·Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope·Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life Learn More > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Richa , Vishwanadhan Saab, As i said in previous mail, Argala is basically lock on the Main door of house. in fact in Gujarati we call it AAGALO (It nearly sounds like argala) Now as per my understanding, we can think in the following way about Argala concept--> There is a house with treasure & kinds. It has a lock & a choukidar (Watchman).. watchman wants to protect the house from being robbed from any external robbers or other ill influences which may try to harm the house. now if there are no robbers then watchman's job is easy in protecting the house & it's members but if Robers comes then obviously there'll be fight. if robbers are more in nos. then our poor watchman will loose and the house & members may be exposed to grave danger. but if there are more than one watchman and they are more in nos. than they will be successfull in overpowering the robbers. if Watchman or watchmen are same in nos. as that of robbers than whoever is powerfull will have a sway over others. The above concept may be related to the Good Watchman (Shubh Argala) who wants to really protect the house & Robbers (Virodh Argala) but if the watchman has inherent evil nature (Paap Argala) then the house is in trouble from the same watchman. extending the above story further. if watchman is evil person himself (Paap Argala) and there is a virodh to him from Good people outside (Virodh Argala from Shubh Graha) then also the eveil watchman may not be able to harm as much as he may intend. the above story is as per my understanding regards, Pathak vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > No, not making fun... infact the entire sign is giving argala/ > virodha. 2nd house argala is called dhana argala, 4th is called sukha > argala & 11th as Labha argala. These are the three primary argalas. > There are secondary argalas also. Off hand i do not recall anything > on the net.. if i remember i'll post you something. > > Hare Rama Krishna > regards > Suryaviswanadham > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear Richa, > > > > I can see your enthusiasm over vedic astrology. actually as shri > vishwanadham has indicated (degrees :-) ) i also felt the same way. > don't for a minute think that we are making any fun out of it. > > I just want to quote opinion about great Dr B.V.Raman & his Grand > father. they have several time indicated that a lot of mathemetics in > to predictive part tend to confuse one. > > > > ARGALA --> In ancient times, The wooden doors of the houses had Big > Wooden Locks that was called 'Argala'. that is how the name & concept > has come up (As per my information). > > > > As eveident for the material i sent you, Argala & it's obstruction > has to do with the BHAVA Involved in the concept. for Argala -- >2nd > is sustenance, 4th is all kinds of Sukha & 11 th is all gains. same > way for Obstruction of Argala --> 12 th is losses, 3rd is efforts, > 10th working & activities (read hardwork), respectively. > > > > I think in very brief i tried to give you some idea. my suggetions > will be not to go deep in degrees. > > > > best regards, > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Richa Ji, Namaskar > > > > Try to understand the houses (bhavas)involved in the argalas and > > virodhargalas. Degrees?! :-)) > > > > You need to understand what each bhava represents very well to > > understand argalas. > > > > regards > > Suryaviswanadham > > > > > > vedic astrology, Richa Gupta > > <richas_lucky> wrote: > > > Respected sir, Utpal ji I hv just finished the e-mail. In reality > > it is very knowledgable and i can understand the theory of Argala > and > > answer of different questions related Argala.I want to know only > one > > question that 1 st rashi to second rashi there is different of 30 > > degree like this 4th rashi difference is 90 degree and 11th rashi > > diffrence is 300 degree. Like this 3rd house,10 house and 12th > house > > has difference of 60,270,330 degree so what is the cause in this > > theory that On these degrees Argala and obstructor of Argala > > works?????? > > > I know this can be very rediculous question, but pls enlightened > me > > > Thanxs and regards > > > Richa Gupta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > Children InternationalWould you give Hope to a Child in need? > ·Click Here to meet a Girl > > And Give Her Hope·Click Here to meet a Boy > > And Change His Life Learn More > > > > > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Dear Utpal Namste Very well explained. Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar utpal pathak wrote: >Richa , Vishwanadhan Saab, > >As i said in previous mail, Argala is basically lock on the Main door >of house. in fact in Gujarati we call it AAGALO (It nearly sounds >like argala) > >Now as per my understanding, we can think in the following way about >Argala concept--> > >There is a house with treasure & kinds. It has a lock & a choukidar >(Watchman).. watchman wants to protect the house from being robbed >from any external robbers or other ill influences which may try to >harm the house. now if there are no robbers then watchman's job is >easy in protecting the house & it's members but if Robers comes then >obviously there'll be fight. if robbers are more in nos. then our >poor watchman will loose and the house & members may be exposed to >grave danger. but if there are more than one watchman and they are >more in nos. than they will be successfull in overpowering the >robbers. if Watchman or watchmen are same in nos. as that of robbers >than whoever is powerfull will have a sway over others. > >The above concept may be related to the Good Watchman (Shubh Argala) >who wants to really protect the house & Robbers (Virodh Argala) but >if the watchman has inherent evil nature (Paap Argala) then the house >is in trouble from the same watchman. > >extending the above story further. if watchman is evil person himself >(Paap Argala) and there is a virodh to him from Good people outside >(Virodh Argala from Shubh Graha) then also the eveil watchman may not >be able to harm as much as he may intend. > >the above story is as per my understanding > >regards, > >Pathak > >vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" ><vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > >>No, not making fun... infact the entire sign is giving argala/ >>virodha. 2nd house argala is called dhana argala, 4th is called >> >> >sukha > > >>argala & 11th as Labha argala. These are the three primary argalas. >>There are secondary argalas also. Off hand i do not recall anything >>on the net.. if i remember i'll post you something. >> >>Hare Rama Krishna >>regards >>Suryaviswanadham >> >>vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak >><vedic_pathak> wrote: >> >> >>>Dear Richa, >>> >>>I can see your enthusiasm over vedic astrology. actually as shri >>> >>> >>vishwanadham has indicated (degrees :-) ) i also felt the same way. >>don't for a minute think that we are making any fun out of it. >> >> >>>I just want to quote opinion about great Dr B.V.Raman & his Grand >>> >>> >>father. they have several time indicated that a lot of mathemetics >> >> >in > > >>to predictive part tend to confuse one. >> >> >>> >>>ARGALA --> In ancient times, The wooden doors of the houses had >>> >>> >Big > > >>Wooden Locks that was called 'Argala'. that is how the name & >> >> >concept > > >>has come up (As per my information). >> >> >>> >>>As eveident for the material i sent you, Argala & it's >>> >>> >obstruction > > >>has to do with the BHAVA Involved in the concept. for Argala -- >>2nd >>is sustenance, 4th is all kinds of Sukha & 11 th is all gains. same >>way for Obstruction of Argala --> 12 th is losses, 3rd is efforts, >>10th working & activities (read hardwork), respectively. >> >> >>> >>>I think in very brief i tried to give you some idea. my >>> >>> >suggetions > > >>will be not to go deep in degrees. >> >> >>> >>>best regards, >>> >>>Utpal Pathak >>> >>>SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: >>> >>>Hare Rama Krishna >>> >>>Dear Richa Ji, Namaskar >>> >>>Try to understand the houses (bhavas)involved in the argalas and >>>virodhargalas. Degrees?! :-)) >>> >>>You need to understand what each bhava represents very well to >>>understand argalas. >>> >>>regards >>>Suryaviswanadham >>> >>> >>>vedic astrology, Richa Gupta >>><richas_lucky> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Respected sir, Utpal ji I hv just finished the e-mail. In >>>> >>>> >reality > > >>>it is very knowledgable and i can understand the theory of Argala >>> >>> >>and >> >> >>>answer of different questions related Argala.I want to know only >>> >>> >>one >> >> >>>question that 1 st rashi to second rashi there is different of 30 >>>degree like this 4th rashi difference is 90 degree and 11th rashi >>>diffrence is 300 degree. Like this 3rd house,10 house and 12th >>> >>> >>house >> >> >>>has difference of 60,270,330 degree so what is the cause in this >>>theory that On these degrees Argala and obstructor of Argala >>>works?????? >>> >>> >>>>I know this can be very rediculous question, but pls >>>> >>>> >enlightened > > >>me >> >> >>>>Thanxs and regards >>>>Richa Gupta >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- >>> >>> >> >> >> >>>....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sponsor >>>Children InternationalWould you give Hope to a Child in need? >>> >>> >>·Click Here to meet a Girl >> >> >>>And Give Her Hope·Click Here to meet a Boy >>>And Change His Life Learn More >>> >>> >>> Links >>> >>> >>>vedic astrology/ >>> >>> >>>vedic astrology >>> >>> Terms of >>> >>> >>Service. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >....... 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