Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Utpal, Namaskar You are using calculating Shoola Dasa's based on the lords of the 1st/7th from Dasa rasi. Remember our discussion in Mumbai? It should start from the 1st/7th HOUSE from dasa rasi. The three incidents happened in Libra antara and Aquarius Antara. Both are associated with the nodes, and either joined or aspected by Venus (travelling). The last two would have been more severe because Mercury (3rd and 6th lord from aries) is in the navamsa of libra. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** utpal pathak [vedic_pathak] 11 April 2005 13:31 Visti Larsen An Accident Analysis !! Dear Visti, I hope you remember me as we have met in SJC(Mumbai) conference. I have tested a chart for Accident incidents and I have total data ready with me. I tried to verify the above accidents using Shool dasha and found that ¡§Mahadasha Rashi¡¨ principle is spot on but ¡§Antar Dasha¡¨ is little off. Girish Patel 11.02.1970, 7.12.45 am, 73E0, 23N48 IDAR (India) Bike Accidents on -29/3/2002 , 25/11/2004, & 5/04/2005 The above native is my best friend and I can discuss the events with his permission. The Basic Principle of Damage to the body or Accident proneness is there as AL has Malefic Shani & 5th from AL has Ketu. Mahadasha in which all the 3 accidents have happened is that of ARIES ¡V as per the Mahadasha principle you have explained it is falling as per that ¡V Aries carries AL & It also has one of the RUDRA Planets i.e. Shani. During the first accident he was going on his bike on RangPanchmi day & some body threw Colour water can on him and he got cut on just above his upper lip. He got 6 stiches. Antardasha „³ VERGO „³ It is as per principle „³in D9,VERGO is aspected by 8th lord Mars from Mahadasha sign During The second accident (on same bike) while going on a high way in the night he bumped in to one PIG and fell down. Luckily he survived as no vehicle was coming from behind or front & he was with his Helmet on. he had his shoulder broken and few injuries here & there. Third Accident (Same Bike) very recently, his bike got in to another bike and some bruises, no major mishap. Antardasha „³ CAPRICORN „³ It is NOT Falling as per principle as It is niether Scorpio nor Vergo, Saggitarious, Pices, Gemini„³How we justify this. I thought the above 4 antardasha should have been more dangerous but nothing happened in them except for Vergo. What is your thoughts. Best regards, Utpal Pathak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Dear Visti, Namaskar, I actually tried all 3 options available in JHL7.0. I clearly remember the "Antardasha" Principle you have explained (I have also noted it down in my diary)and that was as given below-- Antardasha can be of following Rashi 1)Take the 8th Rashi in D1 from Mahadasha Rashi. that Rashi's Antardasha can cause accident. 2)Take the 8th Lord from Mahadasha Rashi and check it's position in D9. The rashi which are aspected by the same planet in D9 can cause accident in their Antardasha. so in the said case of my friend, Niether Libra nor Aquarious qualify for the above said principle because 8th lord from mahadasha Rashi (Mars) in D9 doesn't aspect Libra or Aquarious. where as in the second case which i sent you, perfectly adhers to the above rule. best regards, Pathak vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Utpal, Namaskar > You are using calculating Shoola Dasa's based on the lords of the 1st/7th > from Dasa rasi. Remember our discussion in Mumbai? It should start from the > 1st/7th HOUSE from dasa rasi. > The three incidents happened in Libra antara and Aquarius Antara. Both are > associated with the nodes, and either joined or aspected by Venus > (travelling). The last two would have been more severe because Mercury (3rd > and 6th lord from aries) is in the navamsa of libra. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > Email: visti@s... > Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com > *** > > > utpal pathak [vedic_pathak] > 11 April 2005 13:31 > Visti Larsen > An Accident Analysis !! > > > Dear Visti, > > I hope you remember me as we have met in SJC(Mumbai) conference. > > I have tested a chart for Accident incidents and I have total data > ready with me. I tried to verify the above accidents using Shool > dasha and found that ¡§Mahadasha Rashi¡¨ principle is spot on > but ¡§Antar Dasha¡¨ is little off. > > Girish Patel 11.02.1970, 7.12.45 am, 73E0, 23N48 IDAR (India) > > Bike Accidents on -29/3/2002 , 25/11/2004, & 5/04/2005 > > The above native is my best friend and I can discuss the events with > his permission. > > The Basic Principle of Damage to the body or Accident proneness is > there as AL has Malefic Shani & 5th from AL has Ketu. > > Mahadasha in which all the 3 accidents have happened is that of > ARIES ¡V as per the Mahadasha principle you have explained it is > falling as per that ¡V Aries carries AL & It also has one of the RUDRA > Planets i.e. Shani. > > During the first accident he was going on his bike on RangPanchmi day > & some body threw Colour water can on him and he got cut on just > above his upper lip. He got 6 stiches. > > Antardasha „³ VERGO „³ It is as per principle „³in D9,VERGO is aspected > by 8th lord Mars from Mahadasha sign > > During The second accident (on same bike) while going on a high way > in the night he bumped in to one PIG and fell down. Luckily he > survived as no vehicle was coming from behind or front & he was with > his Helmet on. he had his shoulder broken and few injuries here & > there. > > Third Accident (Same Bike) very recently, his bike got in to another > bike and some bruises, no major mishap. > Antardasha „³ CAPRICORN „³ It is NOT Falling as per principle as It is > niether Scorpio nor Vergo, Saggitarious, Pices, Gemini„³How we justify > this. > > I thought the above 4 antardasha should have been more dangerous but > nothing happened in them except for Vergo. > > What is your thoughts. > > Best regards, > > Utpal Pathak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Pathak, Namaskar But you must have forgotten, that Sanjayji clarified that 3rd, 6th, 8th and 12th lords are all malefics from dasa rasi. Important point is to decide how malefic by looking at the navamsa, and the nature of the accident from the rasi. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Web: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> & http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">utpal pathak [vedic_pathak ] 12 April 2005 14:00 To: vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: An Accident Analysis !! 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Visti, Namaskar, I actually tried all 3 options available in JHL7.0. I clearly remember the "Antardasha" Principle you have explained (I have also noted it down in my diary)and that was as given below-- Antardasha can be of following Rashi 1)Take the 8th Rashi in D1 from Mahadasha Rashi. that Rashi's Antardasha can cause accident. 2)Take the 8th Lord from Mahadasha Rashi and check it's position in D9. The rashi which are aspected by the same planet in D9 can cause accident in their Antardasha. so in the said case of my friend, Niether Libra nor Aquarious qualify for the above said principle because 8th lord from mahadasha Rashi (Mars) in D9 doesn't aspect Libra or Aquarious. where as in the second case which i sent you, perfectly adhers to the above rule. best regards, Pathak vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Utpal, Namaskar > You are using calculating Shoola Dasa's based on the lords of the 1st/7th > from Dasa rasi. Remember our discussion in Mumbai? It should start from the > 1st/7th HOUSE from dasa rasi. > The three incidents happened in Libra antara and Aquarius Antara. Both are > associated with the nodes, and either joined or aspected by Venus > (travelling). The last two would have been more severe because Mercury (3rd > and 6th lord from aries) is in the navamsa of libra. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > Email: visti@s... > Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com > *** > > > utpal pathak [vedic_pathak] > 11 April 2005 13:31 > Visti Larsen > An Accident Analysis !! > > > Dear Visti, > > I hope you remember me as we have met in SJC(Mumbai) conference. > > I have tested a chart for Accident incidents and I have total data > ready with me. I tried to verify the above accidents using Shool > dasha and found that ¡§Mahadasha Rashi¡¨ principle is spot on > but ¡§Antar Dasha¡¨ is little off. > > Girish Patel 11.02.1970, 7.12.45 am, 73E0, 23N48 IDAR (India) > > Bike Accidents on -29/3/2002 , 25/11/2004, & 5/04/2005 > > The above native is my best friend and I can discuss the events with > his permission. > > The Basic Principle of Damage to the body or Accident proneness is > there as AL has Malefic Shani & 5th from AL has Ketu. > > Mahadasha in which all the 3 accidents have happened is that of > ARIES ¡V as per the Mahadasha principle you have explained it is > falling as per that ¡V Aries carries AL & It also has one of the RUDRA > Planets i.e. Shani. > > During the first accident he was going on his bike on RangPanchmi day > & some body threw Colour water can on him and he got cut on just > above his upper lip. He got 6 stiches. > > Antardasha „³ VERGO „³ It is as per principle „³in D9,VERGO is aspected > by 8th lord Mars from Mahadasha sign > > During The second accident (on same bike) while going on a high way > in the night he bumped in to one PIG and fell down. Luckily he > survived as no vehicle was coming from behind or front & he was with > his Helmet on. he had his shoulder broken and few injuries here & > there. > > Third Accident (Same Bike) very recently, his bike got in to another > bike and some bruises, no major mishap. > Antardasha „³ CAPRICORN „³ It is NOT Falling as per principle as It is > niether Scorpio nor Vergo, Saggitarious, Pices, Gemini„³How we justify > this. > > I thought the above 4 antardasha should have been more dangerous but > nothing happened in them except for Vergo. > > What is your thoughts. > > Best regards, > > Utpal Pathak To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Dear Visti, Yes,I remember now that Sanjayji has said something about the antardasha but not recollecting it clearly. let's pause it here & thanks a lot for your time for the 2 cases i sent to you. best regards, Utpal Pathak vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Pathak, Namaskar > > But you must have forgotten, that Sanjayji clarified that 3rd, 6th, 8th and > 12th lords are all malefics from dasa rasi. Important point is to decide how > malefic by looking at the navamsa, and the nature of the accident from the > rasi. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s... > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > utpal pathak [vedic_pathak] > 12 April 2005 14:00 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: An Accident Analysis !! > > > > > Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > I actually tried all 3 options available in JHL7.0. > > I clearly remember the "Antardasha" Principle you have explained (I > have also noted it down in my diary)and that was as given below-- > > Antardasha can be of following Rashi > 1)Take the 8th Rashi in D1 from Mahadasha Rashi. that Rashi's > Antardasha can cause accident. > > 2)Take the 8th Lord from Mahadasha Rashi and check it's position in > D9. The rashi which are aspected by the same planet in D9 can cause > accident in their Antardasha. > > so in the said case of my friend, Niether Libra nor Aquarious qualify > for the above said principle because 8th lord from mahadasha Rashi > (Mars) in D9 doesn't aspect Libra or Aquarious. > > where as in the second case which i sent you, perfectly adhers to the > above rule. > > best regards, > > Pathak > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Utpal, Namaskar > > You are using calculating Shoola Dasa's based on the lords of the > 1st/7th > > from Dasa rasi. Remember our discussion in Mumbai? It should start > from the > > 1st/7th HOUSE from dasa rasi. > > The three incidents happened in Libra antara and Aquarius Antara. > Both are > > associated with the nodes, and either joined or aspected by Venus > > (travelling). The last two would have been more severe because > Mercury (3rd > > and 6th lord from aries) is in the navamsa of libra. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: visti@s... > > Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > > > > utpal pathak [vedic_pathak] > > 11 April 2005 13:31 > > Visti Larsen > > An Accident Analysis !! > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > I hope you remember me as we have met in SJC(Mumbai) conference. > > > > I have tested a chart for Accident incidents and I have total data > > ready with me. I tried to verify the above accidents using Shool > > dasha and found that ¡§Mahadasha Rashi¡¨ principle is spot on > > but ¡§Antar Dasha¡¨ is little off. > > > > Girish Patel 11.02.1970, 7.12.45 am, 73E0, 23N48 IDAR (India) > > > > Bike Accidents on -29/3/2002 , 25/11/2004, & 5/04/2005 > > > > The above native is my best friend and I can discuss the events > with > > his permission. > > > > The Basic Principle of Damage to the body or Accident proneness is > > there as AL has Malefic Shani & 5th from AL has Ketu. > > > > Mahadasha in which all the 3 accidents have happened is that of > > ARIES ¡V as per the Mahadasha principle you have explained it is > > falling as per that ¡V Aries carries AL & It also has one of the > RUDRA > > Planets i.e. Shani. > > > > During the first accident he was going on his bike on RangPanchmi > day > > & some body threw Colour water can on him and he got cut on just > > above his upper lip. He got 6 stiches. > > > > Antardasha „³ VERGO „³ It is as per principle „³in D9,VERGO is > aspected > > by 8th lord Mars from Mahadasha sign > > > > During The second accident (on same bike) while going on a high > way > > in the night he bumped in to one PIG and fell down. Luckily he > > survived as no vehicle was coming from behind or front & he was > with > > his Helmet on. he had his shoulder broken and few injuries here & > > there. > > > > Third Accident (Same Bike) very recently, his bike got in to > another > > bike and some bruises, no major mishap. > > Antardasha „³ CAPRICORN „³ It is NOT Falling as per principle as It > is > > niether Scorpio nor Vergo, Saggitarious, Pices, Gemini„³How we > justify > > this. > > > > I thought the above 4 antardasha should have been more dangerous > but > > nothing happened in them except for Vergo. > > > > What is your thoughts. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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