Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Jagannathan Ji, Namaskar Nice mail. One more point i like to add! AK,AmK & BK are all in 21 degrees, MK & PiK are in 16 degrees and PK & GK are in 8 degrees! See the charakaraka replacements! i still wonder what happened in this native's life! Hope we get some feed back. Real question is will he attempt it again? What remedies are needed to prevent it? regards Suryaviswanadham vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote: > Dear Sri WalKurkji, > I am happy to see your kind and enlightening mail. > There seem to be many other things to be mentioned such as the following. > Ketu is in Jyeshta which is a "Gandantha Nakshatram".saturn is the "Badhakadhipathy" for Rishabha Lagnam.Mars is the "Vyayadhipathy".Rahu forms as you have rightly pointed out a "Chandala Yogam " with Jupiter.Rahu is said to attain maturity at the age of forty.Jupiter is the "Ashtamadhipathy".The Lagna Kendradhipathy venus is in the twelfth in a state of combustion.the fourth lord Sun is in association with Moon and forms "Amavasya Thidhi".Moon ought not to be in the twelfth house.Mercury is debilitated.mars aspects malefics saturn and ketu.Mars aspects debilitated Mercury.Saturn who is the "Badhakadhipathy" aspects the Dasanatha Mars.During mars meets ketu and then his enemy saturn and then the debilitated Mercury during his transits.saturn meets Mercury, his enemies Moon and Sun during his transits.He attains to his degree of debilitation during his transits.Right now Mercury is in Meenam ie in his natal position.It may do good for the native should he wear a green stone studded > into a gold ring in his ring-finger. > The sign dispositors of Jupiter,Rahu and venus all are in the twelfth house.Malefic Saturn aspects them. > One may ask whether "Paraspara Yogam" doesnt function?.Whether Sasa Yogam caused by saturn doesnt function?.Whether exalted Ketu doesnt yield favourable results.?Whether Mars and Saturn do not cause "Raja Yogam" being Kendra Konadfhipahis.etc.the sarvashtaka varga Bindus are 31 for Tarus, 29 and 27 respectively for Leo and Scorpio and 40 for Aquarius.This should yield auspicious results. > That is why I was forced to say that it merely causes erratic behaviour and baseless fears which linger in the mind. > > I think that there are several such cosiderations.Not that the others are not aware of these simple things.I have felt like making mention of such things.apart fromthe other divisional considerations etc. > regards, > jagannathan. > > walkurk <walkurk@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Jagannathan, Ashvin, > > I d like add my thinking to an excellent analyse of jagannathan. > > I think, that amavasya is particularly important in this chart > because of close conjunction of Sun with Gulika and to a certain > extent Mandi, which are poisonous factors for self (or others). > Acording to Jaimini and Parasara. "Gulika is a part of Saturn and > the evil part of Saturn indicating the spread of poison within the > body and mind" ( S.Rath: Vimshottari & Udu dasa's). > Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu, another poisonous factor. > Such evil Rahu (he lords amavasya & Gulika) is in close conjunction > to Lagna, causing another poisonous addiction "for self or others", > according to Jaimini and Parasara. > > In addition to this, Rahu conjoined functional malefic Jupiter > (Guruchandala yoga), which configuration can to bring about the loss > of principles (religious, moral, politics etc) linked with the > desire to harm. I think that with such state of mind, the attempting > at suicide was possibly. These 3 components are in 3rd from AL. > > For experiment, I draw VD started from 2 poisonous facteurs: Gulika > & Rahu. > > VD from Gulika: RA/RA/VE/VE express clearly influence of Ra. > Gulika in the matter of being in nakshatra of Venus, became "Gulika > nakshatra" which can be very dangerous in its > dasa/antar/pratyantardasa. > > VD started from Rahu: JU/RA/JU/VE : Jupiter confirm his diabolic > role being under ascendancy of catastrophic Rahu. For the role of > Jupiter & Venus see above > > VD started from Moon: MA/JU/SA/KE: Mars is in parivaratana with > Moon, so we can interpret the Mahadasa like of the Moon, principal > component of amavasya. Role of Jupiter was already explained. Saturn > aspect Aries with amavasya and upagrahas. > > Best regards > > Waldemar > > vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan > wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > Jupiter and Rahu are in Lagnam.Mars is in the fourth house which > is Leo.Ketu is in Scorpio which is the seventh Kendram and Saturn is > in the tenth Kendram which is Aquarius. > > The Dasa in progress is Mars Dasa.Bhukthi is Jupiter > bhukthi.Antaram is saturn antaram.And the sookkshamtaram of Ketu was > in progress between 16-4-2005 and 19-4-2005. > > All the four angles from the Lagnam are occupied by malefics and > this is dangerous for longevity. as it causes baseless fears related > to death etc. > > "Agasthya Nadi" may be consulted for performing Shanthi > Pariharas.Or under such circumstances the best Astrologer has to be > consulted in addition to consulting a regular physician and a > Psychiatrist. > > Regards, > > jagannathan. > > > > Ashvin Champaneri wrote: > > Jai Shri Krishna. To all memebers on this groups. > > > > Note this person tried to suicide on 19 April 2005 . > > What are fact for suicide? > > Will he do again? > > > > Birth Details: > > > > > > Date of Birth: 1 May 1965 > > > > Time of Birth 9.00am > > > > Place Nadi,Fiji > > > > > > > > Latitude 17S48 > > > > Longitude 177E25 > > > > > > > > Hoping to learn from this groups. > > > > Withs Regards. > > > > A Champaneri > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I am happy to see your kind mail.After saturn transits to cancer I think that things will change favourably.He has to perform Shanthi pariharas I believe to be on the safer side.A remote possibility is that the Span of life may get reduced due to evil combinations. Regards, jagannathan.SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Jagannathan Ji, NamaskarNice mail. One more point i like to add!AK,AmK & BK are all in 21 degrees, MK & PiK are in 16 degrees and PK & GK are in 8 degrees!See the charakaraka replacements!i still wonder what happened in this native's life! Hope we get some feed back.Real question is will he attempt it again? What remedies are needed to prevent it?regardsSuryaviswanadhamvedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan wrote:> Dear Sri WalKurkji,> I am happy to see your kind and enlightening mail.> There seem to be many other things to be mentioned such as the following.> Ketu is in Jyeshta which is a "Gandantha Nakshatram".saturn is the "Badhakadhipathy" for Rishabha Lagnam.Mars is the "Vyayadhipathy".Rahu forms as you have rightly pointed out a "Chandala Yogam " with Jupiter.Rahu is said to attain maturity at the age of forty.Jupiter is the "Ashtamadhipathy".The Lagna Kendradhipathy venus is in the twelfth in a state of combustion.the fourth lord Sun is in association with Moon and forms "Amavasya Thidhi".Moon ought not to be in the twelfth house.Mercury is debilitated.mars aspects malefics saturn and ketu.Mars aspects debilitated Mercury.Saturn who is the "Badhakadhipathy" aspects the Dasanatha Mars.During mars meets ketu and then his enemy saturn and then the debilitated Mercury during his transits.saturn meets Mercury, his enemies Moon and Sun during his transits.He attains to his degree of debilitation during his transits.Right now Mercury is in Meenam ie in his natal position.It may do good for the native should he wear a green stone studded> into a gold ring in his ring-finger.> The sign dispositors of Jupiter,Rahu and venus all are in the twelfth house.Malefic Saturn aspects them.> One may ask whether "Paraspara Yogam" doesnt function?.Whether Sasa Yogam caused by saturn doesnt function?.Whether exalted Ketu doesnt yield favourable results.?Whether Mars and Saturn do not cause "Raja Yogam" being Kendra Konadfhipahis.etc.the sarvashtaka varga Bindus are 31 for Tarus, 29 and 27 respectively for Leo and Scorpio and 40 for Aquarius.This should yield auspicious results.> That is why I was forced to say that it merely causes erratic behaviour and baseless fears which linger in the mind.> > I think that there are several such cosiderations.Not that the others are not aware of these simple things.I have felt like making mention of such things.apart fromthe other divisional considerations etc.> regards,> jagannathan.> > walkurk wrote:> > > Dear Jagannathan, Ashvin, > > I d like add my thinking to an excellent analyse of jagannathan.> > I think, that amavasya is particularly important in this chart > because of close conjunction of Sun with Gulika and to a certain > extent Mandi, which are poisonous factors for self (or others). > Acording to Jaimini and Parasara. "Gulika is a part of Saturn and > the evil part of Saturn indicating the spread of poison within the > body and mind" ( S.Rath: Vimshottari & Udu dasa's).> Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu, another poisonous factor. > Such evil Rahu (he lords amavasya & Gulika) is in close conjunction > to Lagna, causing another poisonous addiction "for self or others", > according to Jaimini and Parasara. > > In addition to this, Rahu conjoined functional malefic Jupiter > (Guruchandala yoga), which configuration can to bring about the loss > of principles (religious, moral, politics etc) linked with the > desire to harm. I think that with such state of mind, the attempting > at suicide was possibly. These 3 components are in 3rd from AL.> > For experiment, I draw VD started from 2 poisonous facteurs: Gulika > & Rahu.> > VD from Gulika: RA/RA/VE/VE express clearly influence of Ra. > Gulika in the matter of being in nakshatra of Venus, became "Gulika > nakshatra" which can be very dangerous in its > dasa/antar/pratyantardasa.> > VD started from Rahu: JU/RA/JU/VE : Jupiter confirm his diabolic > role being under ascendancy of catastrophic Rahu. For the role of > Jupiter & Venus see above> > VD started from Moon: MA/JU/SA/KE: Mars is in parivaratana with > Moon, so we can interpret the Mahadasa like of the Moon, principal > component of amavasya. Role of Jupiter was already explained. Saturn > aspect Aries with amavasya and upagrahas.> > Best regards> > Waldemar> > vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan > wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > Jupiter and Rahu are in Lagnam.Mars is in the fourth house which > is Leo.Ketu is in Scorpio which is the seventh Kendram and Saturn is > in the tenth Kendram which is Aquarius.> > The Dasa in progress is Mars Dasa.Bhukthi is Jupiter > bhukthi.Antaram is saturn antaram.And the sookkshamtaram of Ketu was > in progress between 16-4-2005 and 19-4-2005.> > All the four angles from the Lagnam are occupied by malefics and > this is dangerous for longevity. as it causes baseless fears related > to death etc.> > "Agasthya Nadi" may be consulted for performing Shanthi > Pariharas.Or under such circumstances the best Astrologer has to be > consulted in addition to consulting a regular physician and a > Psychiatrist.> > Regards,> > jagannathan.> > > > Ashvin Champaneri wrote:> > Jai Shri Krishna. To all memebers on this groups.> > > > Note this person tried to suicide on 19 April 2005 .> > What are fact for suicide?> > Will he do again?> > > > Birth Details:> > > > > > Date of Birth: 1 May 1965 > > > > Time of Birth 9.00am> > > > Place Nadi,Fiji > > > > > > > > Latitude 17S48> > > > Longitude 177E25> > > > > > > > Hoping to learn from this groups.> > > > Withs Regards.> > > > A Champaneri> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Please,note that he was married in Feburay ,2003.Married life looks ok.The only problem mention by him was his is unemployed since his was married. kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: <html><body> <DIV>Dear Sir,</DIV> <DIV>I am happy to see your kind mail.After saturn transits to cancer I think that things will change favourably.He has to perform Shanthi pariharas I believe to be on the safer side.A remote possibility is that the Span of life may get reduced due to evil combinations.</DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV>jagannathan.<BR><BR><B><I>SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham ></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR><BR><BR>Hare Rama Krishna<BR><BR>Dear Jagannathan Ji, Namaskar<BR><BR>Nice mail. One more point i like to add!<BR><BR>AK,AmK & BK are all in 21 degrees, MK & PiK are in 16 degrees and PK <BR>& GK are in 8 degrees!<BR><BR>See the charakaraka replacements!<BR><BR>i still wonder what happened in this native's life! Hope we get some <BR>feed back.<BR><BR>Real question is will he attempt it again? What remedies are needed <BR>to prevent it?<BR><BR>regards<BR>Suryaviswanadham<BR>--- In vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan <BR><JAGANNATHANKR@Y...>wrote:<BR>> Dear Sri WalKurkji,<BR>> I am happy to see your kind and enlightening mail.<BR>> There seem to be many other things to be mentioned such as the <BR>following.<BR>> Ketu is in Jyeshta which is a "Gandantha Nakshatram".saturn is <BR>the "Badhakadhipathy" for Rishabha Lagnam.Mars is <BR>the "Vyayadhipathy".Rahu forms as you have rightly pointed out <BR>a "Chandala Yogam " with Jupiter.Rahu is said to attain maturity at <BR>the age of forty.Jupiter is the "Ashtamadhipathy".The Lagna <BR>Kendradhipathy venus is in the twelfth in a state of combustion.the <BR>fourth lord Sun is in association with Moon and forms "Amavasya <BR>Thidhi".Moon ought not to be in the twelfth house.Mercury is <BR>debilitated.mars aspects malefics saturn and ketu.Mars aspects <BR>debilitated Mercury.Saturn who is the "Badhakadhipathy" aspects the <BR>Dasanatha Mars.During mars meets ketu and then his enemy saturn and <BR>then the debilitated Mercury during his transits.saturn meets <BR>Mercury, his enemies Moon and Sun during his transits.He attains to <BR>his degree of debilitation during his transits.Right now Mercury is <BR>in Meenam ie in his natal position.It may do good for the native <BR>should he wear a green stone studded<BR>> into a gold ring in his ring-finger.<BR>> The sign dispositors of Jupiter,Rahu and venus all are in the <BR>twelfth house.Malefic Saturn aspects them.<BR>> One may ask whether "Paraspara Yogam" doesnt function?.Whether Sasa <BR>Yogam caused by saturn doesnt function?.Whether exalted Ketu doesnt <BR>yield favourable results.?Whether Mars and Saturn do not cause "Raja <BR>Yogam" being Kendra Konadfhipahis.etc.the sarvashtaka varga Bindus <BR>are 31 for Tarus, 29 and 27 respectively for Leo and Scorpio and 40 <BR>for Aquarius.This should yield auspicious results.<BR>> That is why I was forced to say that it merely causes erratic <BR>behaviour and baseless fears which linger in the mind.<BR>> <BR>> I think that there are several such cosiderations.Not that the <BR>others are not aware of these simple things.I have felt like making <BR>mention of such things.apart fromthe other divisional considerations <BR>etc.<BR>> regards,<BR>> jagannathan.<BR>> <BR>> walkurk <WALKURK@H...>wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dear Jagannathan, Ashvin, <BR>> <BR>> I d like add my thinking to an excellent analyse of jagannathan.<BR>> <BR>> I think, that amavasya is particularly important in this chart <BR>> because of close conjunction of Sun with Gulika and to a certain <BR>> extent Mandi, which are poisonous factors for self (or others). <BR>> Acording to Jaimini and Parasara. "Gulika is a part of Saturn and <BR>> the evil part of Saturn indicating the spread of poison within the <BR>> body and mind" ( S.Rath: Vimshottari & Udu dasa's).<BR>> Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu, another poisonous factor. <BR>> Such evil Rahu (he lords amavasya & Gulika) is in close conjunction <BR>> to Lagna, causing another poisonous addiction "for self or others", <BR>> according to Jaimini and Parasara. <BR>> <BR>> In addition to this, Rahu conjoined functional malefic Jupiter <BR>> (Guruchandala yoga), which configuration can to bring about the <BR>loss <BR>> of principles (religious, moral, politics etc) linked with the <BR>> desire to harm. I think that with such state of mind, the <BR>attempting <BR>> at suicide was possibly. These 3 components are in 3rd from AL.<BR>> <BR>> For experiment, I draw VD started from 2 poisonous facteurs: Gulika <BR>> & Rahu.<BR>> <BR>> VD from Gulika: RA/RA/VE/VE express clearly influence of Ra. <BR>> Gulika in the matter of being in nakshatra of Venus, became "Gulika <BR>> nakshatra" which can be very dangerous in its <BR>> dasa/antar/pratyantardasa.<BR>> <BR>> VD started from Rahu: JU/RA/JU/VE : Jupiter confirm his diabolic <BR>> role being under ascendancy of catastrophic Rahu. For the role of <BR>> Jupiter & Venus see above<BR>> <BR>> VD started from Moon: MA/JU/SA/KE: Mars is in parivaratana with <BR>> Moon, so we can interpret the Mahadasa like of the Moon, principal <BR>> component of amavasya. Role of Jupiter was already explained. <BR>Saturn <BR>> aspect Aries with amavasya and upagrahas.<BR>> <BR>> Best regards<BR>> <BR>> Waldemar<BR>> <BR>> vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan <BR>> wrote:<BR>> > Dear Sir,<BR>> > Jupiter and Rahu are in Lagnam.Mars is in the fourth house which <BR>> is Leo.Ketu is in Scorpio which is the seventh Kendram and Saturn <BR>is <BR>> in the tenth Kendram which is Aquarius.<BR>> > The Dasa in progress is Mars Dasa.Bhukthi is Jupiter <BR>> bhukthi.Antaram is saturn antaram.And the sookkshamtaram of Ketu <BR>was <BR>> in progress between 16-4-2005 and 19-4-2005.<BR>> > All the four angles from the Lagnam are occupied by malefics and <BR>> this is dangerous for longevity. as it causes baseless fears <BR>related <BR>> to death etc.<BR>> > "Agasthya Nadi" may be consulted for performing Shanthi <BR>> Pariharas.Or under such circumstances the best Astrologer has to be <BR>> consulted in addition to consulting a regular physician and a <BR>> Psychiatrist.<BR>> > Regards,<BR>> > jagannathan.<BR>> > <BR>> > Ashvin Champaneri wrote:<BR>> > Jai Shri Krishna. To all memebers on this groups.<BR>> > <BR>> > Note this person tried to suicide on 19 April 2005 .<BR>> > What are fact for suicide?<BR>> > Will he do again?<BR>> > <BR>> > Birth Details:<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Date of Birth: 1 May 1965 <BR>> > <BR>> > Time of Birth 9.00am<BR>> > <BR>> > Place Nadi,Fiji <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Latitude 17S48<BR>> > <BR>> > Longitude 177E25<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Hoping to learn from this groups.<BR>> > <BR>> > Withs Regards.<BR>> > <BR>> > A Champaneri<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Send instant messages to your online friends <BR>> </tt> </br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </body></html> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.''>http://uk.messenger.'>http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Then no worry. Regards, jagannathan.Ashvin Champaneri <ashvin_champaneri (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Jai Shri Krishna, Please,note that he was married in Feburay ,2003.Married life looks ok.The only problem mention by him was his is unemployed since his was married. kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: <html><body> <DIV>Dear Sir,</DIV> <DIV>I am happy to see your kind mail.After saturn transits to cancer I think that things will change favourably.He has to perform Shanthi pariharas I believe to be on the safer side.A remote possibility is that the Span of life may get reduced due to evil combinations.</DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV>jagannathan.<BR><BR><B><I>SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham ></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR><BR><BR>Hare Rama Krishna<BR><BR>Dear Jagannathan Ji, Namaskar<BR><BR>Nice mail. One more point i like to add!<BR><BR>AK,AmK & BK are all in 21 degrees, MK & PiK are in 16 degrees and PK <BR>& GK are in 8 degrees!<BR><BR>See the charakaraka replacements!<BR><BR>i still wonder what happened in this native's life! Hope we get some <BR>feed back.<BR><BR>Real question is will he attempt it again? What remedies are needed <BR>to prevent it?<BR><BR>regards<BR>Suryaviswanadham<BR>--- In vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan <BR><JAGANNATHANKR@Y...>wrote:<BR>> Dear Sri WalKurkji,<BR>> I am happy to see your kind and enlightening mail.<BR>> There seem to be many other things to be mentioned such as the <BR>following.<BR>> Ketu is in Jyeshta which is a "Gandantha Nakshatram".saturn is <BR>the "Badhakadhipathy" for Rishabha Lagnam.Mars is <BR>the "Vyayadhipathy".Rahu forms as you have rightly pointed out <BR>a "Chandala Yogam " with Jupiter.Rahu is said to attain maturity at <BR>the age of forty.Jupiter is the "Ashtamadhipathy".The Lagna <BR>Kendradhipathy venus is in the twelfth in a state of combustion.the <BR>fourth lord Sun is in association with Moon and forms "Amavasya <BR>Thidhi".Moon ought not to be in the twelfth house.Mercury is <BR>debilitated.mars aspects malefics saturn and ketu.Mars aspects <BR>debilitated Mercury.Saturn who is the "Badhakadhipathy" aspects the <BR>Dasanatha Mars.During mars meets ketu and then his enemy saturn and <BR>then the debilitated Mercury during his transits.saturn meets <BR>Mercury, his enemies Moon and Sun during his transits.He attains to <BR>his degree of debilitation during his transits.Right now Mercury is <BR>in Meenam ie in his natal position.It may do good for the native <BR>should he wear a green stone studded<BR>> into a gold ring in his ring-finger.<BR>> The sign dispositors of Jupiter,Rahu and venus all are in the <BR>twelfth house.Malefic Saturn aspects them.<BR>> One may ask whether "Paraspara Yogam" doesnt function?.Whether Sasa <BR>Yogam caused by saturn doesnt function?.Whether exalted Ketu doesnt <BR>yield favourable results.?Whether Mars and Saturn do not cause "Raja <BR>Yogam" being Kendra Konadfhipahis.etc.the sarvashtaka varga Bindus <BR>are 31 for Tarus, 29 and 27 respectively for Leo and Scorpio and 40 <BR>for Aquarius.This should yield auspicious results.<BR>> That is why I was forced to say that it merely causes erratic <BR>behaviour and baseless fears which linger in the mind.<BR>> <BR>> I think that there are several such cosiderations.Not that the <BR>others are not aware of these simple things.I have felt like making <BR>mention of such things.apart fromthe other divisional considerations <BR>etc.<BR>> regards,<BR>> jagannathan.<BR>> <BR>> walkurk <WALKURK@H...>wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dear Jagannathan, Ashvin, <BR>> <BR>> I d like add my thinking to an excellent analyse of jagannathan.<BR>> <BR>> I think, that amavasya is particularly important in this chart <BR>> because of close conjunction of Sun with Gulika and to a certain <BR>> extent Mandi, which are poisonous factors for self (or others). <BR>> Acording to Jaimini and Parasara. "Gulika is a part of Saturn and <BR>> the evil part of Saturn indicating the spread of poison within the <BR>> body and mind" ( S.Rath: Vimshottari & Udu dasa's).<BR>> Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu, another poisonous factor. <BR>> Such evil Rahu (he lords amavasya & Gulika) is in close conjunction <BR>> to Lagna, causing another poisonous addiction "for self or others", <BR>> according to Jaimini and Parasara. <BR>> <BR>> In addition to this, Rahu conjoined functional malefic Jupiter <BR>> (Guruchandala yoga), which configuration can to bring about the <BR>loss <BR>> of principles (religious, moral, politics etc) linked with the <BR>> desire to harm. I think that with such state of mind, the <BR>attempting <BR>> at suicide was possibly. These 3 components are in 3rd from AL.<BR>> <BR>> For experiment, I draw VD started from 2 poisonous facteurs: Gulika <BR>> & Rahu.<BR>> <BR>> VD from Gulika: RA/RA/VE/VE express clearly influence of Ra. <BR>> Gulika in the matter of being in nakshatra of Venus, became "Gulika <BR>> nakshatra" which can be very dangerous in its <BR>> dasa/antar/pratyantardasa.<BR>> <BR>> VD started from Rahu: JU/RA/JU/VE : Jupiter confirm his diabolic <BR>> role being under ascendancy of catastrophic Rahu. For the role of <BR>> Jupiter & Venus see above<BR>> <BR>> VD started from Moon: MA/JU/SA/KE: Mars is in parivaratana with <BR>> Moon, so we can interpret the Mahadasa like of the Moon, principal <BR>> component of amavasya. Role of Jupiter was already explained. <BR>Saturn <BR>> aspect Aries with amavasya and upagrahas.<BR>> <BR>> Best regards<BR>> <BR>> Waldemar<BR>> <BR>> vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan <BR>> wrote:<BR>> > Dear Sir,<BR>> > Jupiter and Rahu are in Lagnam.Mars is in the fourth house which <BR>> is Leo.Ketu is in Scorpio which is the seventh Kendram and Saturn <BR>is <BR>> in the tenth Kendram which is Aquarius.<BR>> > The Dasa in progress is Mars Dasa.Bhukthi is Jupiter <BR>> bhukthi.Antaram is saturn antaram.And the sookkshamtaram of Ketu <BR>was <BR>> in progress between 16-4-2005 and 19-4-2005.<BR>> > All the four angles from the Lagnam are occupied by malefics and <BR>> this is dangerous for longevity. as it causes baseless fears <BR>related <BR>> to death etc.<BR>> > "Agasthya Nadi" may be consulted for performing Shanthi <BR>> Pariharas.Or under such circumstances the best Astrologer has to be <BR>> consulted in addition to consulting a regular physician and a <BR>> Psychiatrist.<BR>> > Regards,<BR>> > jagannathan.<BR>> > <BR>> > Ashvin Champaneri wrote:<BR>> > Jai Shri Krishna. To all memebers on this groups.<BR>> > <BR>> > Note this person tried to suicide on 19 April 2005 .<BR>> > What are fact for suicide?<BR>> > Will he do again?<BR>> > <BR>> > Birth Details:<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Date of Birth: 1 May 1965 <BR>> > <BR>> > Time of Birth 9.00am<BR>> > <BR>> > Place Nadi,Fiji <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Latitude 17S48<BR>> > <BR>> > Longitude 177E25<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Hoping to learn from this groups.<BR>> > <BR>> > Withs Regards.<BR>> > <BR>> > A Champaneri<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Send instant messages to your online friends <BR>> </tt> </br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </body></html> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Dear Jagannathan, I am happy to receive your "compliments" as reply for my compliment. It give me a possibility to explain (with my bad English) some logic in my analyse. I suppose, that you read my message not very carefully or my English was too French J : it wasn't a clumsy reading of the horoscope! There are many others aspects , yogas or combinations in this chart, that I haven't mentioned, but this wasn't a problem to resolve! In any case, would you be so kind to read at least this message till end: my name is "Waldemar", not "Shri WalKurkji"! In my message I tried to explain, which factors are responsible for self-destruction of the person analysed. All factors of this message were employed only for 2 principals combinations: 1° the tendencies for suicide (or rather for destruction) should be linked with afflicted mind (Moon). 2° the self-body (Lagna) should be strongly linked with this afflicted mind, to give the result. 3° appropriated dasas should show the connection between 2 combinations and confirm the time of the accident As for 1°: Moon is weak in tithi amavasya considered very inauspicious (see S.Rath Vedic Remedies in Astrology). Moon, Sun & AK Venus are in the same sign and conjoin Gulika & Mandi, Sun being involved in close conjunction with Gulika (see, what Maharishis say on its poisoning nature, for ex Jaimini 1.2.29, 1.2.30, 1.2.31, 1.2.95, 3.3.67), Venus conjoined Mandi, which has the characteristics almost similar to Gulika (Jaimini 2.2.19, 2.3.21). Its clear, that amavasya like this can give a mentality troubled in some extent by objets of destruction or by destruction quite simply. Or by self-destruction? We have to see Lagna for the answer. Look at 2°: AK Venus lords Lagna and is in Aries with Sun-Moon amavasya, Gulika and Mandi. So, Lagna is strongly linked with afflicted Moon (mind). Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu (see S.Rath Vedic Remedies in Astrology). Rahu is in very close conjunction with Lagna, so mind is strongly linked with Lagna satisfying in large extend condition 2°. For 3°: I've not taken Moon here, because he is weaker then Sun. Choice of a dasa for any particular feature of horoscope isn't always easy. I've have to select between Sun & Lagna. But Sun with Gulika and Lagna with Rahu are in very close (<1°) conjunction. So, I've taken VD from Gulika & from Rahu, because I consider these planets as the strongest destroyers in this chart. Though it is non-orthodox, I was hoping to arouse a discussion on this subject. In fact, taking VD from Sun or Gulika & from Lagna or Rahu change almost nothing in reckoning. VD from Lagna for 18/4/05: JUP/MAR/VEN/SAT VD from Sun for 18/4/05: RAH/RAH/MOON/SAT As far as I am concerned, 2nd version of VD from Sun/Gulika "sound" better…may be in next message Best wishes Waldemar vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote: > Dear Sri WalKurkji, > I am happy to see your kind and enlightening mail. > There seem to be many other things to be mentioned such as the following. > Ketu is in Jyeshta which is a "Gandantha Nakshatram".saturn is the "Badhakadhipathy" for Rishabha Lagnam.Mars is the "Vyayadhipathy".Rahu forms as you have rightly pointed out a "Chandala Yogam " with Jupiter.Rahu is said to attain maturity at the age of forty.Jupiter is the "Ashtamadhipathy".The Lagna Kendradhipathy venus is in the twelfth in a state of combustion.the fourth lord Sun is in association with Moon and forms "Amavasya Thidhi".Moon ought not to be in the twelfth house.Mercury is debilitated.mars aspects malefics saturn and ketu.Mars aspects debilitated Mercury.Saturn who is the "Badhakadhipathy" aspects the Dasanatha Mars.During mars meets ketu and then his enemy saturn and then the debilitated Mercury during his transits.saturn meets Mercury, his enemies Moon and Sun during his transits.He attains to his degree of debilitation during his transits.Right now Mercury is in Meenam ie in his natal position.It may do good for the native should he wear a green stone studded > into a gold ring in his ring-finger. > The sign dispositors of Jupiter,Rahu and venus all are in the twelfth house.Malefic Saturn aspects them. > One may ask whether "Paraspara Yogam" doesnt function?.Whether Sasa Yogam caused by saturn doesnt function?.Whether exalted Ketu doesnt yield favourable results.?Whether Mars and Saturn do not cause "Raja Yogam" being Kendra Konadfhipahis.etc.the sarvashtaka varga Bindus are 31 for Tarus, 29 and 27 respectively for Leo and Scorpio and 40 for Aquarius.This should yield auspicious results. > That is why I was forced to say that it merely causes erratic behaviour and baseless fears which linger in the mind. > > I think that there are several such cosiderations.Not that the others are not aware of these simple things.I have felt like making mention of such things.apart fromthe other divisional considerations etc. > regards, > jagannathan. > > walkurk <walkurk@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Jagannathan, Ashvin, > > I d like add my thinking to an excellent analyse of jagannathan. > > I think, that amavasya is particularly important in this chart > because of close conjunction of Sun with Gulika and to a certain > extent Mandi, which are poisonous factors for self (or others). > Acording to Jaimini and Parasara. "Gulika is a part of Saturn and > the evil part of Saturn indicating the spread of poison within the > body and mind" ( S.Rath: Vimshottari & Udu dasa's). > Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu, another poisonous factor. > Such evil Rahu (he lords amavasya & Gulika) is in close conjunction > to Lagna, causing another poisonous addiction "for self or others", > according to Jaimini and Parasara. > > In addition to this, Rahu conjoined functional malefic Jupiter > (Guruchandala yoga), which configuration can to bring about the loss > of principles (religious, moral, politics etc) linked with the > desire to harm. I think that with such state of mind, the attempting > at suicide was possibly. These 3 components are in 3rd from AL. > > For experiment, I draw VD started from 2 poisonous facteurs: Gulika > & Rahu. > > VD from Gulika: RA/RA/VE/VE express clearly influence of Ra. > Gulika in the matter of being in nakshatra of Venus, became "Gulika > nakshatra" which can be very dangerous in its > dasa/antar/pratyantardasa. > > VD started from Rahu: JU/RA/JU/VE : Jupiter confirm his diabolic > role being under ascendancy of catastrophic Rahu. For the role of > Jupiter & Venus see above > > VD started from Moon: MA/JU/SA/KE: Mars is in parivaratana with > Moon, so we can interpret the Mahadasa like of the Moon, principal > component of amavasya. Role of Jupiter was already explained. Saturn > aspect Aries with amavasya and upagrahas. > > Best regards > > Waldemar > > vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan > wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > Jupiter and Rahu are in Lagnam.Mars is in the fourth house which > is Leo.Ketu is in Scorpio which is the seventh Kendram and Saturn is > in the tenth Kendram which is Aquarius. > > The Dasa in progress is Mars Dasa.Bhukthi is Jupiter > bhukthi.Antaram is saturn antaram.And the sookkshamtaram of Ketu was > in progress between 16-4-2005 and 19-4-2005. > > All the four angles from the Lagnam are occupied by malefics and > this is dangerous for longevity. as it causes baseless fears related > to death etc. > > "Agasthya Nadi" may be consulted for performing Shanthi > Pariharas.Or under such circumstances the best Astrologer has to be > consulted in addition to consulting a regular physician and a > Psychiatrist. > > Regards, > > jagannathan. > > > > Ashvin Champaneri wrote: > > Jai Shri Krishna. To all memebers on this groups. > > > > Note this person tried to suicide on 19 April 2005 . > > What are fact for suicide? > > Will he do again? > > > > Birth Details: > > > > > > Date of Birth: 1 May 1965 > > > > Time of Birth 9.00am > > > > Place Nadi,Fiji > > > > > > > > Latitude 17S48 > > > > Longitude 177E25 > > > > > > > > Hoping to learn from this groups. > > > > Withs Regards. > > > > A Champaneri > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I am happy to see your kind mail.There is no denial about the "soundness" of your analysis and logic.I read your arguments thoroughly. Regards, jagannathan.walkurk <walkurk (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Jagannathan,I am happy to receive your "compliments" as reply for my compliment. It give me a possibility to explain (with my bad English) some logic in my analyse. I suppose, that you read my message not very carefully or my English was too French J : it wasn't a clumsy reading of the horoscope! There are many others aspects , yogas or combinations in this chart, that I haven't mentioned, but this wasn't a problem to resolve!In any case, would you be so kind to read at least this message till end: my name is "Waldemar", not "Shri WalKurkji"!In my message I tried to explain, which factors are responsible for self-destruction of the person analysed. All factors of this message were employed only for 2 principals combinations: 1° the tendencies for suicide (or rather for destruction) should be linked with afflicted mind (Moon). 2° the self-body (Lagna) should be strongly linked with this afflicted mind, to give the result. 3° appropriated dasas should show the connection between 2 combinations and confirm the time of the accident As for 1°: Moon is weak in tithi amavasya considered very inauspicious (see S.Rath Vedic Remedies in Astrology). Moon, Sun & AK Venus are in the same sign and conjoin Gulika & Mandi, Sun being involved in close conjunction with Gulika (see, what Maharishis say on its poisoning nature, for ex Jaimini 1.2.29, 1.2.30, 1.2.31, 1.2.95, 3.3.67), Venus conjoined Mandi, which has the characteristics almost similar to Gulika (Jaimini 2.2.19, 2.3.21). Its clear, that amavasya like this can give a mentality troubled in some extent by objets of destruction or by destruction quite simply. Or by self-destruction? We have to see Lagna for the answer.Look at 2°: AK Venus lords Lagna and is in Aries with Sun-Moon amavasya, Gulika and Mandi. So, Lagna is strongly linked with afflicted Moon (mind). Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu (see S.Rath Vedic Remedies in Astrology). Rahu is in very close conjunction with Lagna, so mind is strongly linked with Lagna satisfying in large extend condition 2°.For 3°: I've not taken Moon here, because he is weaker then Sun. Choice of a dasa for any particular feature of horoscope isn't always easy. I've have to select between Sun & Lagna. But Sun with Gulika and Lagna with Rahu are in very close (<1°) conjunction. So, I've takenVD from Gulika & from Rahu, because I consider these planets as the strongest destroyers in this chart. Though it is non-orthodox, I was hoping to arouse a discussion on this subject. In fact, taking VD from Sun or Gulika & from Lagna or Rahu change almost nothing in reckoning. VD from Lagna for 18/4/05: JUP/MAR/VEN/SATVD from Sun for 18/4/05: RAH/RAH/MOON/SATAs far as I am concerned, 2nd version of VD from Sun/Gulika "sound" better…may be in next messageBest wishes Waldemar --- In vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan wrote:> Dear Sri WalKurkji,> I am happy to see your kind and enlightening mail.> There seem to be many other things to be mentioned such as the following.> Ketu is in Jyeshta which is a "Gandantha Nakshatram".saturn is the "Badhakadhipathy" for Rishabha Lagnam.Mars is the "Vyayadhipathy".Rahu forms as you have rightly pointed out a "Chandala Yogam " with Jupiter.Rahu is said to attain maturity at the age of forty.Jupiter is the "Ashtamadhipathy".The Lagna Kendradhipathy venus is in the twelfth in a state of combustion.the fourth lord Sun is in association with Moon and forms "Amavasya Thidhi".Moon ought not to be in the twelfth house.Mercury is debilitated.mars aspects malefics saturn and ketu.Mars aspects debilitated Mercury.Saturn who is the "Badhakadhipathy" aspects the Dasanatha Mars.During mars meets ketu and then his enemy saturn and then the debilitated Mercury during his transits.saturn meets Mercury, his enemies Moon and Sun during his transits.He attains to his degree of debilitation during his transits.Right now Mercury is in Meenam ie in his natal position.It may do good for the native should he wear a green stone studded> into a gold ring in his ring-finger.> The sign dispositors of Jupiter,Rahu and venus all are in the twelfth house.Malefic Saturn aspects them.> One may ask whether "Paraspara Yogam" doesnt function?.Whether Sasa Yogam caused by saturn doesnt function?.Whether exalted Ketu doesnt yield favourable results.?Whether Mars and Saturn do not cause "Raja Yogam" being Kendra Konadfhipahis.etc.the sarvashtaka varga Bindus are 31 for Tarus, 29 and 27 respectively for Leo and Scorpio and 40 for Aquarius.This should yield auspicious results.> That is why I was forced to say that it merely causes erratic behaviour and baseless fears which linger in the mind.> > I think that there are several such cosiderations.Not that the others are not aware of these simple things.I have felt like making mention of such things.apart fromthe other divisional considerations etc.> regards,> jagannathan.> > walkurk wrote:> > > Dear Jagannathan, Ashvin, > > I d like add my thinking to an excellent analyse of jagannathan.> > I think, that amavasya is particularly important in this chart > because of close conjunction of Sun with Gulika and to a certain > extent Mandi, which are poisonous factors for self (or others). > Acording to Jaimini and Parasara. "Gulika is a part of Saturn and > the evil part of Saturn indicating the spread of poison within the > body and mind" ( S.Rath: Vimshottari & Udu dasa's).> Tithi amavasya is ruled by Rahu, another poisonous factor. > Such evil Rahu (he lords amavasya & Gulika) is in close conjunction > to Lagna, causing another poisonous addiction "for self or others", > according to Jaimini and Parasara. > > In addition to this, Rahu conjoined functional malefic Jupiter > (Guruchandala yoga), which configuration can to bring about the loss > of principles (religious, moral, politics etc) linked with the > desire to harm. I think that with such state of mind, the attempting > at suicide was possibly. These 3 components are in 3rd from AL.> > For experiment, I draw VD started from 2 poisonous facteurs: Gulika > & Rahu.> > VD from Gulika: RA/RA/VE/VE express clearly influence of Ra. > Gulika in the matter of being in nakshatra of Venus, became "Gulika > nakshatra" which can be very dangerous in its > dasa/antar/pratyantardasa.> > VD started from Rahu: JU/RA/JU/VE : Jupiter confirm his diabolic > role being under ascendancy of catastrophic Rahu. For the role of > Jupiter & Venus see above> > VD started from Moon: MA/JU/SA/KE: Mars is in parivaratana with > Moon, so we can interpret the Mahadasa like of the Moon, principal > component of amavasya. Role of Jupiter was already explained. Saturn > aspect Aries with amavasya and upagrahas.> > Best regards> > Waldemar> > --- In vedic astrology, kapisthalam jagannathan > wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > Jupiter and Rahu are in Lagnam.Mars is in the fourth house which > is Leo.Ketu is in Scorpio which is the seventh Kendram and Saturn is > in the tenth Kendram which is Aquarius.> > The Dasa in progress is Mars Dasa.Bhukthi is Jupiter > bhukthi.Antaram is saturn antaram.And the sookkshamtaram of Ketu was > in progress between 16-4-2005 and 19-4-2005.> > All the four angles from the Lagnam are occupied by malefics and > this is dangerous for longevity. as it causes baseless fears related > to death etc.> > "Agasthya Nadi" may be consulted for performing Shanthi > Pariharas.Or under such circumstances the best Astrologer has to be > consulted in addition to consulting a regular physician and a > Psychiatrist.> > Regards,> > jagannathan.> > > > Ashvin Champaneri wrote:> > Jai Shri Krishna. To all memebers on this groups.> > > > Note this person tried to suicide on 19 April 2005 .> > What are fact for suicide?> > Will he do again?> > > > Birth Details:> > > > > > Date of Birth: 1 May 1965 > > > > Time of Birth 9.00am> > > > Place Nadi,Fiji > > > > > > > > Latitude 17S48> > > > Longitude 177E25> > > > > > > > Hoping to learn from this groups.> > > > Withs Regards.> > > > A Champaneri> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... 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