Multiple replies (Chart of Pope Benedict XVI/Shri Narasimha)

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Dear Narasimha ji

 

You are very right in pointing the imperfections.Now you have said

Rashi chakra is very simple - Atleast not for me.I have not even

understood 10 % of the basics on how to analyse rashi chakra

properly.It will take many years to master.Also on one hand you say

combination of Rashi chakra with Vargas and on the other hand -

there is no Main chart.If rashi chakra is not the main why do you

want to use them in combination with Vargas?.

Also if Rashi chakra is not the main why do you give so many yogas

in your software based on Rashi chakra - pertaining to all

aspects.If Rashi chakra is just for physique - how will we see the

qualities of Mahapurusha from the Rashi chakra? How will we see

Saraswati yoga - the yoga for learning.If 10 th house and 10th lord

in Rashi chakra is physical ,what is 10th ''house'' and lord in

dashamsha.

 

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste friends,

>

> I will quickly try to respond to multiple mails on multiple lists.

These days I've been really busy and cannot give a more detailed

reply. I may not actually be able to give any further replies on

this thread.

>

> > Can you explain why you have given TZ 2 for Marktl, Germany?

At 12 degrees

> > East from Greenwich it is in TZ 1.

>

> Gordon, I may be wrong. If the timezone should be 1:00, please

change the birthtime to 6:33:40 am to 5:33:40 am.

>

> Bottomline is: I did not know the time and rectified lagna in rasi

and various divisions by retro-fitting.

>

> > You wrote:

> > Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa!

> > Please check, it is Sat Mahadasa and Moon Antardasa.

>

> Praveen, you are right. There is a bug in my software in the

second cycle of Shashtihayani dasa. Thanks for pointing this out.

I'll fix this.

>

> Technically, BTW, whether we can use Shashtihayani dasa after the

age of 60 has passed is debatable. The same holds for other dasas.

>

> > It has been observed that the Rashi chakra was not given due

respect

> > during your analysis.Results were decided on the basis of varga -

> > which is derived from Rashi chakra.

> >

> > As thousands of students are observing this analysis - Pls make

it

> > clear is it possible to deduce results from varga of a

planet/lagna

> > alone.When Panditji had questioned a similar analysis on

saptamsha -

> > One could find Ms.Sarbani Sarkar rushing in and correcting -

> > Significance of Rashi chakra.I would be pleased to know if you

hold a

> > different position.

>

> Pradeep, because you asked, I will clarify MY position.

>

> For perfection, multiple divisional charts should be judged

together. We are often doing imperfect astrology for the sake of

simplicity and look at only one chart. The best answer is not any

single chart, but a combination of charts.

>

> But, if I have to choose a single chart, I'll choose the

applicable varga (e.g. D-10 for career, D-24 for education etc)

rather than the rasi chart. Though imperfect, it works way better

for me than rasi chart alone.

>

> While combining rasi with divisions leads to better results, it is

still away from perfection. Perfection can come only when

shashtyamsa (D-60) is understood correctly and used.

>

> When Parasara defined the matters seen in various divisions (e.g.

physical matters in rasi, financial matters in D-2, professional

matters in D-10), he said that "everything" is seen in D-60. Also in

vimsopaka bala computation of dasa varga, D-60 gets a higher

weightage than rasi and navamsa combined!

>

> I am fully convinced that the Jyotish is an imperfect subject and

just an art as long as one ignores D-60, which was given so much

importance by Parasara. Jyotish can be established as a science only

when we master D-60.

>

> > Kalyan verma states - one who is not considering the vargas

cannot

> > make good predictions.What does this mean? Doesn't it mean that

there

> > is someother place - (other than vargas) - to read the results?

Which

> > is this other MAIN place? Is it not the Rashi chakra? Division by

> > meaning should have a main to get divided.So which is this main?

If we

> > consider Rashi chakra as the first division - then where is the

main?

>

> Rasi is a divisional chart too. It is one of the vargas according

to Parasara.

>

> There is nothing called main and secondary. If you ask me to pick

the most important divisional chart, I'll pick D-60. As I mentioned

above, Parasara said everything can be seen in D-60 and gave it more

weightage than rasi and navamsa combined, when defining dasa varga

vimsopaka bala.

>

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Correct ! If we apply common sense, we can see Vargas repeating

> > with lagna as it is a few hours before. Only the Moon changes its

>

> Vargas do not exactly repeat. Different divisions have different

patterns. The navamsa, dasamsa, vimsamsa, chaturvimsamsa and

shashtyamsa combination I identified in Aries rasi lagna does not

repeat in Pisces rasi or Taurus rasi.

>

> > position fast. Then, touchstone of any predictive principle is

advance

> > predictions, which they always elude. Veteran astrologers of

Jyotish

> > Group like Shri K.N.Rao and Satya Prakash ji too advised them,

but

> > of no avail. A whole generation is being misguided. Most

unfortunate !

> > But then, as Shri K.N.Rao says, it is the will of the God.

>

> It is quite presumptuous of some to believe that "a whole

generation is being misguided". Whether a generation is being

misguided or guided in the correct direction to fully discover the

teachings of maharshis and establish astrology as a science is

something that the coming generations will judge. Neither I nor you

are in a position to pre-judge it.

>

> Let me do my work and you do your work. There is no need to talk

about misguided generations.

>

> > [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or

even exalted,

> > then longevity will be long - This is also applied in the method

of three

> > pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause

problems,

> > but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are

strong they

> > will give their auspicious results - he states that this applies

to both

> > natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the

fifth house, it

> > means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is

promised. This

> > is not the problem.

>

> Visti, I do not look at only the placement of vaaresha but also

the ownership of the vaaresha. If the weekday lord in a muhurta

happens to be randhresha, I do not consider it auspicious. This is

just my view and not explicitly granted by classics. If you have a

different view, I can respect it.

>

> > [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha

lagna in the

> > calculation of vaisheshikamsa?

>

> Hmm, I don't have any view. I spent so much time mulling over

Parasara's vaiseshikamsa clause "swaaroodhaat kendra naathaanaam

vargaah graahyaah sudheemataa", but could not come to a conclusion.

>

> When I wrote that Sun is in Brahmalokamsa in Pope Benedict XVI's

chart, I did not use the "swaaroodhaat" criterion. I used only the

standard definition and ignoring the additional clause.

>

> When Lord Dakshinamurthy blesses me, I will understand this clause

correctly. When I do, I will share my understanding with all. For

now, I have no view.

>

> > [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart - good

rectification.

>

> Thank you very much Visti. I am glad a Jyotish scholar of your

knowledge and abilities has concurred with my rectification.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

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