Multiple replies (Chart of Pope BenedictXVI/Shri Narasimha)

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Dear All,

How to use Rasi / Vargas ? See what Shri K.N.Rao says:

 

Whatever is indicated by Rasi chart will definitely take place. But how and

when, this depends on Vargas.

 

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

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21, 04, 2005 9:25 PM

[vedic astrology] Multiple replies (Re: Chart of Pope BenedictXVI/Shri Narasimha)

Dear Narasimha jiYou are very right in pointing the imperfections.Now you have

said Rashi chakra is very simple - Atleast not for me.I have not even

understood 10 % of the basics on how to analyse rashi chakra properly.It will

take many years to master.Also on one hand you say combination of Rashi chakra

with Vargas and on the other hand - there is no Main chart.If rashi chakra is

not the main why do you want to use them in combination with Vargas?.Also if

Rashi chakra is not the main why do you give so many yogas in your software

based on Rashi chakra - pertaining to all aspects.If Rashi chakra is just for

physique - how will we see the qualities of Mahapurusha from the Rashi chakra?

How will we see Saraswati yoga - the yoga for learning.If 10 th house and 10th

lord in Rashi chakra is physical ,what is 10th ''house'' and lord in

dashamsha.ThanksPradeepvedic astrology, "Narasimha

P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:> Namaste friends,> > I will quickly try to

respond to multiple mails on multiple lists. These days I've been really busy

and cannot give a more detailed reply. I may not actually be able to give any

further replies on this thread.> > > Can you explain why you have given TZ 2

for Marktl, Germany? At 12 degrees > > East from Greenwich it is in TZ 1.>

> Gordon, I may be wrong. If the timezone should be 1:00, please change the

birthtime to 6:33:40 am to 5:33:40 am.> > Bottomline is: I did not know the

time and rectified lagna in rasi and various divisions by retro-fitting.> > >

You wrote:> > Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! > >

Please check, it is Sat Mahadasa and Moon Antardasa.> > Praveen, you are

right. There is a bug in my software in the second cycle of Shashtihayani dasa.

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll fix this.> > Technically, BTW, whether we

can use Shashtihayani dasa after the age of 60 has passed is debatable. The

same holds for other dasas.> > > It has been observed that the Rashi chakra

was not given due respect> > during your analysis.Results were decided on the

basis of varga -> > which is derived from Rashi chakra.> > > > As thousands of

students are observing this analysis - Pls make it> > clear is it possible to

deduce results from varga of a planet/lagna> > alone.When Panditji had

questioned a similar analysis on saptamsha -> > One could find Ms.Sarbani

Sarkar rushing in and correcting -> > Significance of Rashi chakra.I would be

pleased to know if you hold a> > different position.> > Pradeep, because you

asked, I will clarify MY position.> > For perfection, multiple divisional

charts should be judged together. We are often doing imperfect astrology for

the sake of simplicity and look at only one chart. The best answer is not any

single chart, but a combination of charts.> > But, if I have to choose a

single chart, I'll choose the applicable varga (e.g. D-10 for career, D-24 for

education etc) rather than the rasi chart. Though imperfect, it works way

better for me than rasi chart alone.> > While combining rasi with divisions

leads to better results, it is still away from perfection. Perfection can come

only when shashtyamsa (D-60) is understood correctly and used.> > When

Parasara defined the matters seen in various divisions (e.g. physical matters

in rasi, financial matters in D-2, professional matters in D-10), he said that

"everything" is seen in D-60. Also in vimsopaka bala computation of dasa varga,

D-60 gets a higher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined!> > I am fully

convinced that the Jyotish is an imperfect subject and just an art as long as

one ignores D-60, which was given so much importance by Parasara. Jyotish can

be established as a science only when we master D-60.> > > Kalyan verma states

- one who is not considering the vargas cannot> > make good predictions.What

does this mean? Doesn't it mean that there> > is someother place - (other than

vargas) - to read the results? Which> > is this other MAIN place? Is it not the

Rashi chakra? Division by> > meaning should have a main to get divided.So which

is this main?If we> > consider Rashi chakra as the first division - then where

is the main?> > Rasi is a divisional chart too. It is one of the vargas

according to Parasara.> > There is nothing called main and secondary. If you

ask me to pick the most important divisional chart, I'll pick D-60. As I

mentioned above, Parasara said everything can be seen in D-60 and gave it more

weightage than rasi and navamsa combined, when defining dasa varga vimsopaka

bala.> > > Dear Pradeep,> > Correct ! If we apply common sense, we can see

Vargas repeating> > with lagna as it is a few hours before. Only the Moon

changes its> > Vargas do not exactly repeat. Different divisions have

different patterns. The navamsa, dasamsa, vimsamsa, chaturvimsamsa and

shashtyamsa combination I identified in Aries rasi lagna does not repeat in

Pisces rasi or Taurus rasi.> > > position fast. Then, touchstone of any

predictive principle is advance> > predictions, which they always elude.

Veteran astrologers of Jyotish> > Group like Shri K.N.Rao and Satya Prakash ji

too advised them, but> > of no avail. A whole generation is being misguided.

Most unfortunate !> > But then, as Shri K.N.Rao says, it is the will of the

God.> > It is quite presumptuous of some to believe that "a whole generation

is being misguided". Whether a generation is being misguided or guided in the

correct direction to fully discover the teachings of maharshis and establish

astrology as a science is something that the coming generations will judge.

Neither I nor you are in a position to pre-judge it.> > Let me do my work and

you do your work. There is no need to talk about misguided generations.> > >

[Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or even exalted,> >

then longevity will be long - This is also applied in the method of three> >

pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause problems,> >

but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are strong they> >

will give their auspicious results - he states that this applies to both> >

natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the fifth house, it> >

means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is promised. This> >

is not the problem.> > Visti, I do not look at only the placement of vaaresha

but also the ownership of the vaaresha. If the weekday lord in a muhurta

happens to be randhresha, I do not consider it auspicious. This is just my view

and not explicitly granted by classics. If you have a different view, I can

respect it.> > > [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha

lagna in the> > calculation of vaisheshikamsa? > > Hmm, I don't have any view.

I spent so much time mulling over Parasara's vaiseshikamsa clause "swaaroodhaat

kendra naathaanaam vargaah graahyaah sudheemataa", but could not come to a

conclusion.> > When I wrote that Sun is in Brahmalokamsa in Pope Benedict

XVI's chart, I did not use the "swaaroodhaat" criterion. I used only the

standard definition and ignoring the additional clause.> > When Lord

Dakshinamurthy blesses me, I will understand this clause correctly. When I do,

I will share my understanding with all. For now, I have no view.> > > [Visti]

In concur with your choice for the popes chart - good rectification.> > Thank

you very much Visti. I am glad a Jyotish scholar of your knowledge and

abilities has concurred with my rectification.> > May Jupiter's light shine on

us,> Narasimha>

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