Multiple replies (Chart of Pope BenedictXVI/Shri Narasimha)

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Dear Praveen,

You have expressed Sri KN Rao's opinion. Can you please quote any

classics like BPHS, Jataka Parijata, Varahamihira etc. I am not

trying to intimidate you. But I just want to know if this is what all

(or Any) the Jyotisha's of past have said.

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

<chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> Dear All,

> How to use Rasi / Vargas ? See what Shri K.N.Rao says:

>

> Whatever is indicated by Rasi chart will definitely take place.

But how and when, this depends on Vargas.

>

> Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

> -

> vijayadas_pradeep

> vedic astrology

> 21, 04, 2005 9:25 PM

> [vedic astrology] Multiple replies (Re: Chart of Pope

BenedictXVI/Shri Narasimha)

>

>

>

> Dear Narasimha ji

>

> You are very right in pointing the imperfections.Now you have

said

> Rashi chakra is very simple - Atleast not for me.I have not even

> understood 10 % of the basics on how to analyse rashi chakra

> properly.It will take many years to master.Also on one hand you

say

> combination of Rashi chakra with Vargas and on the other hand -

> there is no Main chart.If rashi chakra is not the main why do

you

> want to use them in combination with Vargas?.

> Also if Rashi chakra is not the main why do you give so many

yogas

> in your software based on Rashi chakra - pertaining to all

> aspects.If Rashi chakra is just for physique - how will we see

the

> qualities of Mahapurusha from the Rashi chakra? How will we see

> Saraswati yoga - the yoga for learning.If 10 th house and 10th

lord

> in Rashi chakra is physical ,what is 10th ''house'' and lord in

> dashamsha.

>

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > I will quickly try to respond to multiple mails on multiple

lists.

> These days I've been really busy and cannot give a more detailed

> reply. I may not actually be able to give any further replies on

> this thread.

> >

> > > Can you explain why you have given TZ 2 for Marktl,

Germany?

> At 12 degrees

> > > East from Greenwich it is in TZ 1.

> >

> > Gordon, I may be wrong. If the timezone should be 1:00, please

> change the birthtime to 6:33:40 am to 5:33:40 am.

> >

> > Bottomline is: I did not know the time and rectified lagna in

rasi

> and various divisions by retro-fitting.

> >

> > > You wrote:

> > > Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa!

> > > Please check, it is Sat Mahadasa and Moon Antardasa.

> >

> > Praveen, you are right. There is a bug in my software in the

> second cycle of Shashtihayani dasa. Thanks for pointing this

out.

> I'll fix this.

> >

> > Technically, BTW, whether we can use Shashtihayani dasa after

the

> age of 60 has passed is debatable. The same holds for other

dasas.

> >

> > > It has been observed that the Rashi chakra was not given due

> respect

> > > during your analysis.Results were decided on the basis of

varga -

> > > which is derived from Rashi chakra.

> > >

> > > As thousands of students are observing this analysis - Pls

make

> it

> > > clear is it possible to deduce results from varga of a

> planet/lagna

> > > alone.When Panditji had questioned a similar analysis on

> saptamsha -

> > > One could find Ms.Sarbani Sarkar rushing in and correcting -

> > > Significance of Rashi chakra.I would be pleased to know if

you

> hold a

> > > different position.

> >

> > Pradeep, because you asked, I will clarify MY position.

> >

> > For perfection, multiple divisional charts should be judged

> together. We are often doing imperfect astrology for the sake of

> simplicity and look at only one chart. The best answer is not

any

> single chart, but a combination of charts.

> >

> > But, if I have to choose a single chart, I'll choose the

> applicable varga (e.g. D-10 for career, D-24 for education etc)

> rather than the rasi chart. Though imperfect, it works way

better

> for me than rasi chart alone.

> >

> > While combining rasi with divisions leads to better results,

it is

> still away from perfection. Perfection can come only when

> shashtyamsa (D-60) is understood correctly and used.

> >

> > When Parasara defined the matters seen in various divisions

(e.g.

> physical matters in rasi, financial matters in D-2, professional

> matters in D-10), he said that "everything" is seen in D-60.

Also in

> vimsopaka bala computation of dasa varga, D-60 gets a higher

> weightage than rasi and navamsa combined!

> >

> > I am fully convinced that the Jyotish is an imperfect subject

and

> just an art as long as one ignores D-60, which was given so much

> importance by Parasara. Jyotish can be established as a science

only

> when we master D-60.

> >

> > > Kalyan verma states - one who is not considering the vargas

> cannot

> > > make good predictions.What does this mean? Doesn't it mean

that

> there

> > > is someother place - (other than vargas) - to read the

results?

> Which

> > > is this other MAIN place? Is it not the Rashi chakra?

Division by

> > > meaning should have a main to get divided.So which is this

main?

> If we

> > > consider Rashi chakra as the first division - then where is

the

> main?

> >

> > Rasi is a divisional chart too. It is one of the vargas

according

> to Parasara.

> >

> > There is nothing called main and secondary. If you ask me to

pick

> the most important divisional chart, I'll pick D-60. As I

mentioned

> above, Parasara said everything can be seen in D-60 and gave it

more

> weightage than rasi and navamsa combined, when defining dasa

varga

> vimsopaka bala.

> >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > Correct ! If we apply common sense, we can see Vargas

repeating

> > > with lagna as it is a few hours before. Only the Moon

changes its

> >

> > Vargas do not exactly repeat. Different divisions have

different

> patterns. The navamsa, dasamsa, vimsamsa, chaturvimsamsa and

> shashtyamsa combination I identified in Aries rasi lagna does

not

> repeat in Pisces rasi or Taurus rasi.

> >

> > > position fast. Then, touchstone of any predictive principle

is

> advance

> > > predictions, which they always elude. Veteran astrologers of

> Jyotish

> > > Group like Shri K.N.Rao and Satya Prakash ji too advised

them,

> but

> > > of no avail. A whole generation is being misguided. Most

> unfortunate !

> > > But then, as Shri K.N.Rao says, it is the will of the God.

> >

> > It is quite presumptuous of some to believe that "a whole

> generation is being misguided". Whether a generation is being

> misguided or guided in the correct direction to fully discover

the

> teachings of maharshis and establish astrology as a science is

> something that the coming generations will judge. Neither I nor

you

> are in a position to pre-judge it.

> >

> > Let me do my work and you do your work. There is no need to

talk

> about misguided generations.

> >

> > > [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed

or

> even exalted,

> > > then longevity will be long - This is also applied in the

method

> of three

> > > pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will

cause

> problems,

> > > but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets

are

> strong they

> > > will give their auspicious results - he states that this

applies

> to both

> > > natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the

> fifth house, it

> > > means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health

is

> promised. This

> > > is not the problem.

> >

> > Visti, I do not look at only the placement of vaaresha but

also

> the ownership of the vaaresha. If the weekday lord in a muhurta

> happens to be randhresha, I do not consider it auspicious. This

is

> just my view and not explicitly granted by classics. If you have

a

> different view, I can respect it.

> >

> > > [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha

> lagna in the

> > > calculation of vaisheshikamsa?

> >

> > Hmm, I don't have any view. I spent so much time mulling over

> Parasara's vaiseshikamsa clause "swaaroodhaat kendra naathaanaam

> vargaah graahyaah sudheemataa", but could not come to a

conclusion.

> >

> > When I wrote that Sun is in Brahmalokamsa in Pope Benedict

XVI's

> chart, I did not use the "swaaroodhaat" criterion. I used only

the

> standard definition and ignoring the additional clause.

> >

> > When Lord Dakshinamurthy blesses me, I will understand this

clause

> correctly. When I do, I will share my understanding with all.

For

> now, I have no view.

> >

> > > [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart -

good

> rectification.

> >

> > Thank you very much Visti. I am glad a Jyotish scholar of your

> knowledge and abilities has concurred with my rectification.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

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