Saturn-Moon conjunction: for Praveenji

April 23, 2005

Thank you again for the effort you are taking to read this chart. It is helpful

for your research, but in the process I am benefiting too.

My father's finances are above average, nothing to the accont of very high

financial prosperity. He is doing well now in private practice, but till he

retired, his income was decent, not like a businessman's would be. However, it

felt like we had a lot as there were so many perks in his job. More than money,

it is power that I have seen while growing up. People of prosperity and fame

would shower respect on my father. We would meet so many famous personalities,

known industrialists of the country, film stars etc. I remember when I would

ask for something, say mangoes (my favorite food), the word would get around

and instead of one crate, 10 would be delivered the next day. These were all

people who were trying to be in his good books who would do that. So plenty was

there, but in an indirect way.

My time of birth may well not be accurate. I know it from the hospital records

as 12.35 p.m, but I have often wondered if the nurse was watching the time of

birth to the minute.

About myself: I am very hard to understand / predict. I learn something about

myself eveyday. Some things I can be sure of: 1) I'm very honest, to a fault

and at all costs actually 2) I don't want to speak words that sounds like

praise - but to be fair...I would like to think I have a lot of integrity and

go to any lenghts to be righteous. 3) I like to be fair..so let me say

something not so praiseworthy to make it neutral..I'm generally very lazy. In

between these peiods of laziness, are spurts of high activity when I accomplish

all that I had missed while being lazy in one day and then I'm back to being

contended / lazy / contemplating etc. I think a lot, wonder about the mysteries

of creation 80% of my "awake" time. I use my brains mainly to put 2 and 2 of

various subjects together. My mercury is definetely afficted for I have changed

many professions. My bahelors was in commerce. I have three masters /

professions:

1) Travel and tourism management in Aug 1995 and cleared IATA (and then the

marriage happened). Besides this I learnt computer programing, french and then

worked in a travel agency till Dec 1995 when the marriage took place. 2) MBA

- marketing in Sep 1998. The seperation happened in March 1997 and the divorce

took place jan 1998. So most of the MBA was after the marriage was over. After

that, I worked in public relations Oct 1998 - May 1999. Then traveled to US for

3 months. Sep 1999 - July 2001 was a period when I seemed lost. I worked in a

couple of marketing jobs but did not stick around and started wordering where

my life is headed. I was in a serious relationship since late 1997 till Aug

2000. His nakshatra was pushya and we got along well. But overall, the whole

relationship was too emotional and dramatic for me to handle. I did not benefit

much from him intellectually / spiritually, which is what I

crave. (Because my revati moon is emotional enough and I like a balance). But he

is a good soul and was by my side througout the painful period of my life. It

was almost like he was a god sent to help me ride out the bad period and our

relationship dissolved as soon as I was back on my feet.

I decided to come to US and on 28th June 2001, I went to Vaishnu Devi, the

dearest place in my heart to take her blessing. This day is very fond in my

memory.

In July 2001 , I came to US and have "found" myself in this country. I cleared

3) Masters in marriage, family and child therapy in 2004. Since coming to this

country, my interest in spirituality, that was always there, found no obstacle

(back home in India my mother stopped me from attending too many religious

discourses, and did not allow me to learn things like reiki, etc whatever in

the spiritual realm fascinated me. She somehow felt from me that I would take

sanyas and would be most upset about me talking about these things. And since I

have come here and been truly by myself, it has been like a dam that has broken.

I am pursuing yoga, tai chi, study of the holistics (massage, pressure point

therapy, energy work, shiastu, jym shyn etc etc), I am about to start a course

in vedic astrology, kriya yoga. I read and read so much, on indian scriptures

and am learning sanskrit so that one day I am able to read the indian

scriptures in their original language. I want to

integrate the eastern healing systems and philosophies with the psychology of

the west and want to do a doctorate in that, but not yet. Right now, I feel

like my soul is thirsty for some divine experiences. The only one divine

experience that I think I have had is that a month back I saw someones aura. It

hasn't happened again since but I want to awaken my energy. All this is

definetely ME. I have some vasanas left for marriage, and so I am married now

but I feel like a sanyasi.

My mother is a housewife. She was a student of art and music. She did music from

shantiniketan and art from J.J school of arts. In her own field, she was highly

educated. She has excellent health and I have never known her to stay in bed

even because of a fever since I was old enough to understand what "feeling

sick" means. That would be 25 years for sure.

As for the part about bad period..the time when I was previously married was

very bad. I felt like a dark black cloud was hanging over me. However, Krishna

has not been more dearer to me any other time. After the seperation happened, I

would cradle Krishna to sleep and talk to him all the time, and many insightful

experiences occured when I felt like Krishu (I like to call him that) talked

back to me, and he did. One time I remember, I had fallen asleep, and I heard

Krishu say "wake up, and cradle me some more, i can't sleep". I was tired, and

ignored it for a while, but he kept calling. I woke up to cradle him, and heard

a thief trying to get into the house. I put the lights on and shouted, he ran

away. Krishu was with me throughout the "bad" period...so I don't how bad it

was. It was a blessing in some ways. So I don't know if I have had a completely

bad peried ever, but right now is definetely a good period. I am married to a

very loving,

good character and philosophical person. His judgements are very sound and he is

called "dharamraja" in his family. I guess that says a lot about him. And I

respect him a lot. His nakshatra is Magha, just the nakshatra Revati ones

should not marry, and this had kept me back initially and I had said "no" to

him. But I have not got along with anyone better, and he pursued. At the end, I

left it to Krishu.

I got engaged on 11th July 2004, court marriage on Oct 4th 2004, and the

traditional wedding on Jan 21st 2005.

My first spouse was a Sindhi as well (same as me), but Ram is Tamilian. So it is

a cross community marriage this time.

My husbands birth details are:

Ram: DOB: July 18th, 1969, POB: Hubli, Karnataka, TOB: 2.36 a.m

I don't have my father's details at present. I will ask him for it. But I am

adding my sisters details for the purpose of cross cheking my fathers and my

trend from her chart.

Darpan: DOB: Sep 21st, 1967. POB: Nagpur, Maharashtra, TOB: 2.20 p.m.

I have a question regarding my sisters and husbands chart. For both of them. I

wanted to know which stone is good for them to wear. And Ram has requested me

to ask you whether the stone he is wearing right now is good for him. He is

wearing a Gomed for the past 3-4 years in the ring finger, right hand. Someone

on this had said it is not good for him. It was prescribed to him

by their family astrologer who has made very accurate predictions about him.

But he has heard praise about this from me, and was wondering if

indeed it is benefiting him. He is supposed to have worn it for financial

prosperity, and he does get it, but it feels like an uphill strugle.

Thank you again for your time, effort and insight. My husband and I are finally

going for our honeymoon. We leave tomorrow and come back May 2nd. I look

forward to reading your response upon returning and will continue

correspondence then.

Sincerely,

Dimple

Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001 (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Dimple,

I am satisfied with your father's account. Only thing (which is most important)

I am still struggling with is his finances. Usually, such persons are man of

very high financial prosperity.

Your father's account is extremely important for my research about parents. I

look for extreme cases only. Hence, thanks for the data. But I require your

correct TOB. Please give following details for verifying / rectifying the

chart:1) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital record,

rectified etc.2) Margin of error possible.3) Some past trends / facts / events.

You may write about your nature, education, profession, marriage / spouse if

married / relationship, good / bad periods of past, parents' profession /

status, health etc.

You had already given some information about marriage. Give other facts. I shall

let you know my opinion.

You will start Sun dasa from Feb 2007. Sun is almost exactly in M.B. That is one

important reason for your father's health trouble which I was apprehending when

I asked you for father's details. He may again face typical health conditions

in Sun dasa. Do you have your father's data ?

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

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22, 04, 2005 3:40 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn-Moon conjunction

Praveen ji,

I forgot to mention about his health. He health trend is that when he is

healthy, he is very healthy. But when he falls sick, it is serious. He has had

gall bladder and slip disk problem in the past, both of which he was

hospitalised for. More serious than this, there was one time around 1989 or so

when blood started coming out of the various openings in the body and he was in

the intensive care. The blood just kept coming out. The doctors discoverd after

a long time that he has Glucose -phosphate deficiency, and that the blood had

disintegrated since he had taken some medication that has that effect on the

blood of people with that deficiency. The entire blood in the body had to be

removed and fresh blood put in. There were less chances of this happening

sucessfully but by God's grace, it went through smoothly. Other than these 3

occasions, to my knowledge, he has been in good health.

Regards,

DimpleWater Fire <julyrainmermaid > wrote:

Respected Praveen ji,

Thank you for the reading. There were marriage problems. The first marriage had

happened in dec 1995 and ended in March 2007. I recently got remarried.

About my father: he is very saturn like for sure. Hard working and very

disciplined. He had a very sucessful career and retired as a member of the

Indian revenue board of customs and central excise in the Finance ministry.That

is the 2nd top most level in the country. The highest is being the Director. Out

of 6 members, they choose one Director. He could not make it there. His

education was great. He was a MSC - math gold medalist from nagpur university

and cleared the IAS in 1st attempt. He is a very good father and husband. He

likes to work, and is now practicing tax law. Nature wise, he is sober, and

serious. Very duty oriented, sharp memory and quick intellect, and extremely

good at logic and analysis . He likes to travel, entertain people and likes

photography. As far as I know, these are his hobbies, other than that, I have

always seen him working amidst thick tax books. Hope that helps.

How will my moon and mars dasha be?

Regards,

Dimple Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001 (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote:

See 7th lord in the 6th for trouble in marriage. Your Sun dasa will be good for

material success though some mild but lingering health trouble is likely.

Please let me know the basic trends of / problems in your father's life for my studies.

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

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Water Fire

vedic astrology

21, 04, 2005 2:03 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn-Moon conjunction

Namaste Praveen ji,

With due respects - here are my details:

DOB: July 22nd, 1973

TOB: 12.35 p.m.

POB: New Delhi

Regards,

Dimple

Praveen Kumar <chunnu2001 (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Dimple,

Please give your data, always. It helps us form a holistic picture. A strong

aspect of Saturn on moon itself is sufficient to produce melancholy, ascetic

tendencies, detachment from things worldly etc.

Sudarshan and you both are requested to post their birth data.

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

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Water Fire

vedic astrology

21, 04, 2005 3:17 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn-Moon conjunction

Hello everyone,

I read this email and thought about my chart. I have saturn (in mithuna in 9th

house) aspecting chandra-mangal (in meena in 6th house - though they are

actually in the 7th in bhava chart.)

a pundit had mentioned to me that I will be more serious in temperatment and not

be as jovial as a result of this aspect. i think it is true. also my second

marriage happened recently at the age of 31 (what i actually take as my real

marriage, as the first one was very early, brief and painful, and it was not a

marriage in the full sense) , so the late marriage part also applies.

i have guru aspecting my chandra-mangal from 1/3rd dristi, and i am interested

in mysticism, ancient scriptures as well as have a sanyasi

temperament...perhaps due to this aspect? or perhaps..because of sani-ketu in

the 9th house.

but yes, i see a similar situation as what is discussed below, in my life as well.

i hope i have been able to contribute somthing.

regards,

dimpleSudarshan <sudarshan_ji > wrote:

FriendsI have Saturn-moon conjunction in Lagna (Meena). It is aspected by

Jupiter from 5th House.I can confirm most of what has been discussed here--1.

I married at the age of 32 which I consider is a late marrige.2. Makes me

meloncholic and a lover of musics by KLSaigal, Talat Mahmood etc.3. Makes me

change my mind suddenly and quite often. 4. I am superstitous5. Aspect by

Jupiter - I am interested in ancient/occultic/religous knowledge. even in

school I used to be fond of history and used to score good marks in that

subject. Out of interest, I even took a history course as my elective when I

studied for my Chemical Engineering in 1987.--- In

vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran <astroimran> wrote:> Dear

Friends,> > I have also observed in few cases that Sat+Moon> combination caused

unexpected delay in marriage or> resulted in long-held engagement etc.> > I

think, the theory of Punarphoo is not limited to> this issue only. If someone

know then please write on> it.> > Moreover, if Moon is solely aspected by

Saturn then> this makes one malencholic and superstitious. If>

aspect/association of natural benefics on Moon, is> also present then this

makes one intelligent, sober> and fondness of ancient knowledge.> > M.Imran> >

> > --- Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote:> > > Namaste,> > > > Shani and chadra

closely conjunct is called> > punrabhu( some call it> > punarafu) yoga. This

yoga can make a person suddenly> > pull out of> > relationship. Some cases are

cited where

the wedding> > invitations are> > mailed verything is ready to go and suddenly

the> > person chages his> > mind or some event makes the event not happen> > >

> ...> > > > On 4/19/05, raindancer_1998> > <raindancer_1998> wrote:> > >

> > > I have also read that this yoga (saturn-moon> > aspect) can result in> >

> "probhinu yoga" which, esp in a woman's chart, can> > result in repeated> > >

breaking of marriage prospects if one of the> > planets rule or are in> > > the

7th house. do the gurus on this list have any> > comments about this?> > > I

have this in my chart (sani in makar, 7th house,> > chandra in meena,> > > 9th

house). I have had that happen twice> > (prospective marriage broken> > > off).

can this yoga be broken

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> > > > > > > > > > > I have a Saturn-Moon conjunction in my 9th house> >

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retrograde) constitutes a > > > > partial Sani-Chandra yoga. Isnt that true of

a> > saturn-moon > > > > combination? Besides would it also not indicate> > a

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April 23, 2005

Thanks Dimple.

I asked about his finances as men of his position usually make at least a few

crores before retirement as he was in the revenue service. But, now I feel that

perhaps your father was not in the usual practice. All this is strictly for

technical reasons. Rest assured about confidentiality. Please let me know if I

am wrong. I shall write more you later.

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

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23, 04, 2005 1:02 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Saturn-Moon conjunction: for Praveenji