Twin Births - Similarities (More Charts Needed)

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Dear Sirs,

 

I saw some connection to the twin births in the charts of the

natives from USA (provided by Shri Narasimha ji) & also the

following:

 

1. The bhartrikaraka is connected to Rahu in both the charts - In

one Rahu (bhartrikaraka) occupies Ashwini star (resembling twins) in

Aries aspected by Mars

 

2. The bhartrikaraka in the other chart is Moon and occupies 9th

house with Rahu in the dual sign Aquarius (exchange of houses

between Moon & Saturn)

 

If the members can help with respect to birth details of twins that

will be great to come out with more details and facts with respect

to their nature and births.

 

Look forward to your kind help.

 

Best regards,

Prakash Kandpal

 

vedic astrology, "ennaye" <ennaye> wrote:

>

> -Dear Sir,

> I have been following the messages on this site with a great deal

of

> interest and am glad that someone has taken up the topic of twin

> horoscopes. It is not easy to predict in twin horoscopes

especially

> if the birth time difference is negligible.

> I have here the details of a set of twins with t.o.b difference of

> just one minute:

> d.o.b 17 Nov 2004

> t.o.b 18-40 and 18-41 respectively

> p.o.b Bangalore, India

> the birth was by c-section and that explains the negligible

> difference in birth time.

> In this set of charts I have not been able to find any differences

> in the divisional charts also.

> Looks wise they are very different and even display differences in

> nature.

> Could there be any different methods of judging twin horoscopes?

>

> Regards,

> ennaye

> -- In vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Regarding twins, you are agreeing that the divisions of lagna

are

> important but you are refusing to take houses from divisional

lagna.

> I fail to see how you can explain the differences between twins.

> >

> > Let us try an example of twins.

> >

> > (1) 15th September 1970, 1:14 am (TZ: 5:00 west)

> > Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA (97 W 03' 29", 36 N 06' 56")

> > Moon: 25Aq38, Lagna: 17Ge37

> >

> > (1) 15th September 1970, 1:29 am (TZ: 5:00 west)

> > Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA (97 W 03' 29", 36 N 06' 56")

> > Moon: 25Aq39, Lagna: 14Ge20

> >

> > Saravali gives some general guidelines on physical attributes,

> facial features and general nature based on hora, drekkana and

> navamsa. If you use those guidelines, you will not really see the

> differences between these twins. For example, Saravali says that

one

> born in the 5th navamsa of Gemini has a wide face, large chest,

big

> head, deception, strong shoulders etc. It says that one born in

the

> 6th navamsa of Gemini has sweet looks, talkative nature, uneven

> forehead, nice body, red lips etc.

> >

> > Now, how do you explain the glaring difference between these two

> twins using just the above?

> >

> > One twin is insane and the other is brilliant and has degrees in

> engineering and medicine.

> >

> > If you take houses in divisional charts, you can explain the

> differences.

> >

> > BTW, many (though not all) old astrologers who use navamsa take

> houses in navamsa.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------------

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------------

> >

> > > > Pradeep, do you support taking houses in navamsa or

> > > > not? Please make that clear.

> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha ji

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your reply.

> > > For me navamsha is also a division.

> > > Now regarding twins -you are right - lagnas navamsha/drekkana

> etc is

> > > very important.But no bhava is needed here as well.

> > > As i have always said,divisions are for our lagna and

> planets.Can you

> > > think any other way of getting divisions.Lagna too has

divisions

> as it

> > > is having a coordinate or degree.

> > > Through divisions we are seeing the kshethra,drekkana,navamsha

> etc of

> > > our lagna.

> > >

> > > Let us take Saravali.

> > >

> > > ''Following are the effects of births in the nine

> Navāńśas in Aries

> > > Ascendant: Effects of Aries Ascendant, First

> Navāńśa: The native will

> > > have a face, resembling that of a he-goat, with nose and

> shoulders not

> > > being very prominent. He will have a fierce voice, ugly

> appearance and

> > > narrow eyes. His body will be thin, but free from defects.

> Effects of

> > > Aries Ascendant, Second Navāńśa: The native

will

> be dark in

> > > complexion, will have broad shoulders and long arms. small

> forehead,

> > > strong collar bones, sharp sight and prominent face and nose.

He

> will

> > > be an affable speaker and will possess weak legs''.

> > >

> > > Here Aries ascendant represents our Tanubhava(Rashi).First

> navamsha of

> > > Aries is Aries - Thus if our lagna is within 3.2 degrees ,then

> effects

> > > are as per first navamsha.Second navasmha in Aries is Taurus -

> Thus if

> > > lagna is after 3 degrees 20 mins and before 6.40 we take

effects

> as

> > > per second navamsha within Aries Rashi.

> > >

> > > On the other hand bhava means - we consider

> Tanu ,dhana,bhagya,labha

> > > etc in navamsha.I sincerely wish if people may start taking

these

> > > factors for chart rectification than bhavas.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

[Guest guest]

i have been following the discussion of twin births. iwould like to give

some details of triplets( three children at once allare girls ). But they are

not alike in looks. one can easylydifferentiate between them and their

behaviour is also different to eachother.

 

DOB: Nov 21st, 2001

TOb: 05:46, 05:47, 05:48 (earlymorning)

Place: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India.

 

Quoting prakashkandpal :

 

>

 

 

DearSirs,

I saw someconnection to the twin births in the charts of the

natives fromUSA (provided by Shri Narasimha ji) &; also the

following:

1.  The bhartrikaraka is connected toRahu in both the charts - In

one Rahu (bhartrikaraka) occupiesAshwini star (resembling twins) in

Aries aspected byMars

2.  The bhartrikaraka in the other chart is Moonand occupies 9th

house with Rahu in the dual sign Aquarius(exchange of houses

between Moon &; Saturn)

If themembers can help with respect to birth details of twins that

willbe great to come out with more details and facts with respect

totheir nature and births.

Look forward to your kindhelp.

Best regards,

Prakash Kandpal

--- Invedic astrology, "ennaye" wrote:

>

> -Dear Sir,

> I have been followingthe messages on this site with a great deal

of

> interestand am glad that someone has taken up the topic of twin

>horoscopes. It is not easy to predict in twin horoscopes

especially

> if the birth time difference isnegligible.

> I have here the details of a set of twins witht.o.b difference of

> just one minute:

> d.o.b 17 Nov2004

> t.o.b 18-40 and 18-41 respectively

> p.o.bBangalore, India

> the birth was by c-section and that explainsthe negligible

> difference in birth time.

> In thisset of charts I have not been able to find any differences

> inthe divisional charts also.

> Looks wise they are very differentand even display differences in

> nature.

> Could therebe any different methods of judging twin horoscopes?

>

> Regards,

> ennaye

> -- Invedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> wrote:

> > Namaste,

>> 

> > Regarding twins, you are agreeing that thedivisions of lagna

are

> important but you are refusingto take houses from divisional

lagna.

> I fail to see howyou can explain the differences between twins.

> > 

> > Let us try an example of twins.

> > 

> > (1) 15th September 1970, 1:14 am (TZ: 5:00west)

> > Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA (97 W 03' 29", 36 N06' 56")

> > Moon: 25Aq38, Lagna: 17Ge37

>> 

> > (1) 15th September 1970, 1:29 am (TZ: 5:00west)

> > Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA (97 W 03' 29", 36 N06' 56")

> > Moon: 25Aq39, Lagna: 14Ge20

>> 

> > Saravali gives some general guidelines onphysical attributes,

> facial features and general nature basedon hora, drekkana and

> navamsa. If you use those guidelines,you will not really see the

> differences between these twins.For example, Saravali says that

one

> born in the 5thnavamsa of Gemini has a wide face, large chest,

big

>head, deception, strong shoulders etc. It says that one born in

the

> 6th navamsa of Gemini has sweet looks, talkativenature, uneven

> forehead, nice body, red lips etc.

>> 

> > Now, how do you explain the glaringdifference between these two

> twins using just theabove?

> > 

> > One twin is insane and theother is brilliant and has degrees in

> engineering andmedicine.

> > 

> > If you take houses indivisional charts, you can explain the

> differences.

>> 

> > BTW, many (though not all) old astrologerswho use navamsa take

> houses in navamsa.

> > 

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> >Narasimha

> >-------------------------------

&g;t; > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> >-------------------------------

&g;t; > 

> > > > Pradeep, do you support takinghouses in navamsa or

> > > > not? Please make thatclear.

> > >

> > > Dear Narasimhaji

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for yourreply.

> > > For me navamsha is also a division.

>> > Now regarding twins -you are right - lagnas navamsha/drekkana

> etc is

> > > very important.But no bhava isneeded here as well.

> > > As i have always said,divisionsare for our lagna and

> planets.Can you

> > >think any other way of getting divisions.Lagna too has

divisions

> as it

> > > is having a coordinate ordegree.

> > > Through divisions we are seeing thekshethra,drekkana,navamsha

> etc of

> > > ourlagna.

> > >

> > > Let us takeSaravali.

> > >

> > > ''Following are theeffects of births in the nine

>Navāńśas in Aries

> > >Ascendant: Effects of Aries Ascendant, First

>Navāńśa: The native will

> > >have a face, resembling that of a he-goat, with nose and

>shoulders not

> > > being very prominent. He will have afierce voice, ugly

> appearance and

> > > narroweyes. His body will be thin, but free from defects.

> Effectsof

> > > Aries Ascendant, SecondNavāńśa: The native

will

> bedark in

> > > complexion, will have broad shoulders andlong arms. small

> forehead,

> > > strong collarbones, sharp sight and prominent face and nose.

He

>will

> > > be an affable speaker and will possess weaklegs''.

> > >

> > > Here Aries ascendantrepresents our Tanubhava(Rashi).First

> navamsha of

>> > Aries is Aries - Thus if our lagna is within 3.2 degrees ,then

> effects

> > > are as per first navamsha.Secondnavasmha in Aries is Taurus -

> Thus if

> > >lagna is after 3 degrees 20 mins and before 6.40 we take

effects

> as

> > > per second navamsha within AriesRashi.

> > >

> > > On the other hand bhavameans - we consider

> Tanu ,dhana,bhagya,labha

> >> etc in navamsha.I sincerely wish if people may start taking

these

> > > factors for chart rectification thanbhavas.

> > >

> > > Regds

> >> Pradeep

 

 

 

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