Well said Manoj Sharmaji !!

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I wholy agree with what you wrote but to my disappointment you didn't include my

name in those young astrologers. I think you must have forgotten :-)))

 

warm regards,

 

UtpalManoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > wrote:

Hi.I have been reading this thread with lot of interest,and I couldn't stop

myself from chipping-in. I havebeen the best example of how a wrong advice

fromastrologer can ruin one's life---I was advised to weardiamond to strengthen

Venus, which also happens to bemy lagna lord, deposited in 12 house; in

addition, itis also the lord of sixth. Needless to say, I took toserious

illness, and none of the doctors could evendiagnose my ailment. It was by sheer

accident that Iremoved my diamond, and my health was restored withinsix months.

It was later on some good astrologers toldme that it was almost suicidal to

wear diamond with mykind of planetary configuration in the horoscope.And the

said astrologer was around 70 years old andwas claiming to be practicing

astrology for 40 years;but he didnot know the basics of

astrology that youdon't prescribe the gem for the sixth lord. So muchfor his

experience and age !Well, the point here I am trying to make is that "AGECAN

NOT BE ANYBODY'S QUALIFICATION ORDISQUALIFICATION". Some of the guys like

Sourav,Vettam Krishna, Narsimha Rao, Sourav and even Parthamay be quite young,

but their astrology knowledgeappears to be quite good. And astrology is a

pursuitto be practiced; the more one practices, the better hebecomes. So going

by this measure again, theseyoungsters don't seem to let a single opportunity

ofreading the horoscope go waste; and they are also keenon helping others. My

experience with some of theafresaid astrologers have been very good, and I

cancertainly vouch for their erudition in astrology. Idefinitely don't agree

with a sweeping statement madeby one of the members that these astrologers are

"cutand paste astrologers".It is not necessary that you should

consider any oneof these youngsters as your Gruru; and at the sametime it is

also necessary not to deride or denigratethese youngsters becuase of their

young age.The above post is not to counter anybody's opinion orshow anybody in

poor light; it is a serious attempt todo some loud thinking with the other

members.Thanks and regards to everyoneManoj Sharma--- Anil VSNL

<gogatea (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Mr. Krammer,> > My god ! You seem to be hitting

very hard ! I do not> want to say anything about Sourav and Partha, but> it is

a fact that many many inexperienced boys and> girls just by reading few books

or attending some> Vedic jyotish tuitions are advising people on forum> as if

they are very matured and experienced> astrologers. There is a danger that they

may end up> giving wrong advice and misguide people.> > But Mr. Krammer, you

must

note that to be a good> astrologer apart from experience, one also requires>

some other skills like maturity , holistic approach> , good understanding of

human psychology and> counseling which not only depends on age.> > Your basic

point looks correct , But then where to> draw a line ? I certainly think that

I can correlate> any new case much better to my accumulated knowledge> today

than 26 years before when I started predicting> for the first time. > > But

then you cannot define a event when u become a> "good" astrologer , it is a

slow and steady process> which takes many many years to mature and then>

actually you realize inadequacy of your knowledge.> > One last point , it is

many a times easy to do a> "post facto" analysis of a event, the real issue is>

whether one could have predicted the event earlier ?> > >

Anyway my suggestion to you is that keep on raising> such valid points but what

target them against> active group members ?> > Regards,> > Anil> -----

Original Message ----- > giddyupguys > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:02 PM>

[vedic astrology] Life experiences of> Partha and Sourav> > > > Dear

Sourav/Partha> I have a basic question. From your date of birth,> it appears

that > Partha is yet to hit 30 years (1976 born) and> other gentlemam Sourav

> is (1978 born) young. I do not know if you guys> are married, working >

or studying.> > I think Partha is a Guru also! (good for you)> > I followed

Yogananda book and that was a very good> book that I have > read to understand

Indian life, yogis and little> bit of jyotish. It > gave me good context.> >

Now coming back to you:> What are your life experiences?> To me age brings

lot of life experiences: Be it> dating, relationships, > professional

ups/setbacks etc.> > I don't even know if you guys have a clue of all> these

things being so > young. How can you give advice regarding marriage,>

profession, > childbirth etc. to people either here or at your> home/work?

Have you > guys gone through this phase of life yet?> > Certainly I want my

Vedic astrologer to be> experienced so that he/she > will understand my

problems clearly.>

> Educate me! What makes you guys good vedic> astrologers/gurus being so >

young. Just reading some books on astrology and> giving an internet >

analysis of horoscope cannot make you vedic> astrolgers, in my opinion.> >

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My sincere apologies Utpal saheb.

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--- Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak wrote:

 

> Sharma Saab,

>

> I wholy agree with what you wrote but to my

> disappointment you didn't include my name in those

> young astrologers. I think you must have forgotten

> :-)))

>

> warm regards,

>

> Utpal

>

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote:

> Hi.

> I have been reading this thread with lot of

> interest,

> and I couldn't stop myself from chipping-in. I have

> been the best example of how a wrong advice from

> astrologer can ruin one's life---I was advised to

> wear

> diamond to strengthen Venus, which also happens to

> be

> my lagna lord, deposited in 12 house; in addition,

> it

> is also the lord of sixth. Needless to say, I took

> to

> serious illness, and none of the doctors could even

> diagnose my ailment. It was by sheer accident that I

> removed my diamond, and my health was restored

> within

> six months. It was later on some good astrologers

> told

> me that it was almost suicidal to wear diamond with

> my

> kind of planetary configuration in the horoscope.

>

> And the said astrologer was around 70 years old and

> was claiming to be practicing astrology for 40

> years;

> but he didnot know the basics of astrology that you

> don't prescribe the gem for the sixth lord. So much

> for his experience and age !

>

> Well, the point here I am trying to make is that

> "AGE

> CAN NOT BE ANYBODY'S QUALIFICATION OR

> DISQUALIFICATION". Some of the guys like Sourav,

> Vettam Krishna, Narsimha Rao, Sourav and even Partha

> may be quite young, but their astrology knowledge

> appears to be quite good. And astrology is a pursuit

> to be practiced; the more one practices, the better

> he

> becomes. So going by this measure again, these

> youngsters don't seem to let a single opportunity of

> reading the horoscope go waste; and they are also

> keen

> on helping others. My experience with some of the

> afresaid astrologers have been very good, and I can

> certainly vouch for their erudition in astrology. I

> definitely don't agree with a sweeping statement

> made

> by one of the members that these astrologers are

> "cut

> and paste astrologers".

> It is not necessary that you should consider any one

> of these youngsters as your Gruru; and at the same

> time it is also necessary not to deride or denigrate

> these youngsters becuase of their young age.

>

> The above post is not to counter anybody's opinion

> or

> show anybody in poor light; it is a serious attempt

> to

> do some loud thinking with the other members.

>

> Thanks and regards to everyone

>

> Manoj Sharma

>

> --- Anil VSNL <gogatea wrote:

> > Dear Mr. Krammer,

> >

> > My god ! You seem to be hitting very hard ! I do

> not

> > want to say anything about Sourav and Partha, but

> > it is a fact that many many inexperienced boys and

> > girls just by reading few books or attending some

> > Vedic jyotish tuitions are advising people on

> forum

> > as if they are very matured and experienced

> > astrologers. There is a danger that they may end

> up

> > giving wrong advice and misguide people.

> >

> > But Mr. Krammer, you must note that to be a good

> > astrologer apart from experience, one also

> requires

> > some other skills like maturity , holistic

> approach

> > , good understanding of human psychology and

> > counseling which not only depends on age.

> >

> > Your basic point looks correct , But then where

> to

> > draw a line ? I certainly think that I can

> correlate

> > any new case much better to my accumulated

> knowledge

> > today than 26 years before when I started

> predicting

> > for the first time.

> >

> > But then you cannot define a event when u become a

> > "good" astrologer , it is a slow and steady

> process

> > which takes many many years to mature and then

> > actually you realize inadequacy of your knowledge.

> >

> > One last point , it is many a times easy to do a

> > "post facto" analysis of a event, the real issue

> is

> > whether one could have predicted the event earlier

> ?

> >

> >

> > Anyway my suggestion to you is that keep on

> raising

> > such valid points but what target them against

> > active group members ?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Anil

> > -

> > giddyupguys

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:02 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Life experiences of

> > Partha and Sourav

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sourav/Partha

> > I have a basic question. From your date of

> birth,

> > it appears that

> > Partha is yet to hit 30 years (1976 born) and

> > other gentlemam Sourav

> > is (1978 born) young. I do not know if you guys

> > are married, working

> > or studying.

> >

> > I think Partha is a Guru also! (good for you)

> >

> > I followed Yogananda book and that was a very

> good

> > book that I have

> > read to understand Indian life, yogis and little

> > bit of jyotish. It

> > gave me good context.

> >

> > Now coming back to you:

> > What are your life experiences?

> > To me age brings lot of life experiences: Be it

> > dating, relationships,

> > professional ups/setbacks etc.

> >

> > I don't even know if you guys have a clue of all

> > these things being so

> > young. How can you give advice regarding

> marriage,

> > profession,

> > childbirth etc. to people either here or at your

> > home/work? Have you

> > guys gone through this phase of life yet?

> >

> > Certainly I want my Vedic astrologer to be

> > experienced so that he/she

> > will understand my problems clearly.

> >

> > Educate me! What makes you guys good vedic

> > astrologers/gurus being so

> > young. Just reading some books on astrology and

> > giving an internet

> > analysis of horoscope cannot make you vedic

> > astrolgers, in my opinion.

> >

> > Kramer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Archives:

> > vedic astrology

> >

> > Group info:

> >

>

vedic astrology/info.html

>

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