Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Hare Krishna Dear Jyothi, If you havent done so already if you follow this link to Sanjays web site you can read all about AK.Also about the nature of each planet as AK and the lessons they bring. there are 2 articles posted about AK. and many other subjects, www.srath.com/lectures/lectures.htm all the best, Lakshmi Kary -- In vedic astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b" <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote: > Sir, > > Read your description about Vargottamamsa. Would you kindly > tell me what would be the effect of a vargottama AK if it is > retrograde? Also how can we determine if it is gandantha vargottama? > Also regarding "Vergottama AK shows unfinished work from last birth > and the abilities given from last birth." Is it possible to know the > nature of the unfinished work? I mean, what was that unfinished in > previous birth? > > ( I am having vargottama AK (Mercury)in retrograde in 4th aspected > by vargottama & retrograde Jupiter in 10th).Kindly clear my doubts. > > Regards, > Jyothi. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani" > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Roy, > > > > > > > > Lakshmi has already given good insight into additional strength or > weakness > > of the Vergottama planet giving greater emphasis to its placement > in D9. Let > > me share what Sanjayji said in one of the lectures he took in > Narasimha's > > series of classes, class no. 14. He spoke about Atmka Karka. > However while > > responding to a question related to Vergottama AK, he elaborated on > the > > concept a little more. My understanding of what he said is as > follows. > > > > > > > > 1.. He described Vergottama planets as gift of God, except when > it is > > debilitated/gandanta. > > 2.. These are some of the characteristics that he described for > different > > planets. Mercury = good teacher, learner, speaker. Mars = good > soldier, > > general. Jupiter = good priest, monk, banker (ability to handle > finance), > > ability to handle social and religious tasks. Moon = compassion, > society, > > group working, taking care. Sun = administrator, Initiator. Rahu = > Research. > > Ketu = very intelligent, intuition (headless), very sharp 6th > sense. Saturn > > = ability to work hard and do any kind of work. I am not sure if he > spoke > > about Venus specifically. However it standard characteristics like > artistic > > abilities, managerial abilities etc in strength can be easily > attributed to > > natives having Venus vergottama. > > 3.. Vergottama AK shows unfinished work from last birth and the > abilities > > given from last birth. > > 4.. Signs progressed by planet from D1 rashi to D9 rashi will > show the > > significations that will be affected during the dasa of the planet. > For > > vergottama planets the progression is 1 and hence the native gets > affected > > himself. Debilitated or Gandanta vergottama were not good because > bad > > effects of such a planet would impact the native himself! > > I request gurus to correct me if I have made an error. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of lakshmikary > > Monday, May 16, 2005 12:28 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Vargothamamsa > > > > > > Hare Krishna > > Dear Roy, > > ANy planet that is in the same sign in rasi and navamsa is called > > vargottama. > > If a planet is exalted in rasi and navamsa it is very good and > > powerful. > > If a planet is debilitate or weak in a sign in both rasi and navamsa > > is is twice as bad,weak.Depending on what it is doing in the other > > charts also makes a big difference as well.Navamsa is more important > > than Rasi. > > > > If a planet is exalted in rasi and yet debilitated in navamsa it > > causes cancellation of good effects.AND vice versa. > > Further than that you can check to see how many times a planet is > > in its own,exalted,sign in the other divisional charts. > > In BPHS yu can read about the different grouping of divisions. > > Shadvarga = Using six divisions(varga charts), Dasa Varga =10 > > division scheme > > lso , most commonly used division is the Dasa varga scheme with > these > > divisions > > > rasi,hora,drekkana,saptamsa,navamsa,dasamsa,dwadasamsa,shodasamsa,trim > > samsa,shashtyamsa. > > for example if a planet has attained his exaltation,own,moolatrikona > > position in 4 out of the dasa varga scheme it is known > > as "Gopuramsa". > > If a planet is involved in a raja yoga ,etc in rasi chart but all > > has also attained the same in many more varga charts ie D-3,D- 10,etc > > etc/ then you can assume that the raja yoga will fructify. > > If that is the only time the planet is exlated is in the rasi it is > > not so strong to give results. > > You can read all about this in SJCs Varga Chakra book- a compilation > > of lectures about all the Varga divisions and their results etc > given > > at the SJC Hyderabad conference. > > If you are in USA you can purchase from me for $13.plus 4 dollars > > shipping. > > All the best. > > Lakshmi > > > > > > vedic astrology, "nop61661" <nutrideias@n...> > > wrote: > > > Dear members, > > > > > > Can anybody please help me clarify some points regarding > > vargothama? > > > My > > > doubts are: > > > > > > 1.) Does vargothamamsa condition also apply to Rahu & Ketu? > > > > > > 2.) It is stated that if a planet in a same sign and, thus, being > > > vargottama > > > is very powerful. It is compared are being in its own sign. Also, > > if > > > the > > > planet is in its fallen sign and also being vargottama, the > > > debilitating > > > effect is intensified, and thus, worse off. But is this condition > > only > > > applicable to Rasi chart? That is, if the fallen condition exists > > > only in > > > navansa chart, will this worsen condition also verify? > > > > > > Thank you very much for your kind reply. > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Roy Kamiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Dear Lakshmi, Donno how to thank you. I came to know of the site from your reply . I felt as if I had found a treasure. Thanks a lot.Please if you know any other such links kindly send me. Regards, Jyothi. vedic astrology, "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote: > Hare Krishna > Dear Jyothi, > If you havent done so already if you follow this link to Sanjays web > site you can read all about AK.Also about the nature of each planet > as AK and the lessons they bring. > there are 2 articles posted about AK. and many other subjects, > www.srath.com/lectures/lectures.htm > all the best, > Lakshmi Kary > > > > -- In vedic astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b" > <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote: > > Sir, > > > > Read your description about Vargottamamsa. Would you > kindly > > tell me what would be the effect of a vargottama AK if it is > > retrograde? Also how can we determine if it is gandantha vargottama? > > Also regarding "Vergottama AK shows unfinished work from last birth > > and the abilities given from last birth." Is it possible to know > the > > nature of the unfinished work? I mean, what was that unfinished in > > previous birth? > > > > ( I am having vargottama AK (Mercury)in retrograde in 4th aspected > > by vargottama & retrograde Jupiter in 10th).Kindly clear my doubts. > > > > Regards, > > Jyothi. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani" > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > Roy, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi has already given good insight into additional strength > or > > weakness > > > of the Vergottama planet giving greater emphasis to its placement > > in D9. Let > > > me share what Sanjayji said in one of the lectures he took in > > Narasimha's > > > series of classes, class no. 14. He spoke about Atmka Karka. > > However while > > > responding to a question related to Vergottama AK, he elaborated > on > > the > > > concept a little more. My understanding of what he said is as > > follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.. He described Vergottama planets as gift of God, except when > > it is > > > debilitated/gandanta. > > > 2.. These are some of the characteristics that he described for > > different > > > planets. Mercury = good teacher, learner, speaker. Mars = good > > soldier, > > > general. Jupiter = good priest, monk, banker (ability to handle > > finance), > > > ability to handle social and religious tasks. Moon = compassion, > > society, > > > group working, taking care. Sun = administrator, Initiator. Rahu > = > > Research. > > > Ketu = very intelligent, intuition (headless), very sharp 6th > > sense. Saturn > > > = ability to work hard and do any kind of work. I am not sure if > he > > spoke > > > about Venus specifically. However it standard characteristics > like > > artistic > > > abilities, managerial abilities etc in strength can be easily > > attributed to > > > natives having Venus vergottama. > > > 3.. Vergottama AK shows unfinished work from last birth and the > > abilities > > > given from last birth. > > > 4.. Signs progressed by planet from D1 rashi to D9 rashi will > > show the > > > significations that will be affected during the dasa of the > planet. > > For > > > vergottama planets the progression is 1 and hence the native gets > > affected > > > himself. Debilitated or Gandanta vergottama were not good because > > bad > > > effects of such a planet would impact the native himself! > > > I request gurus to correct me if I have made an error. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of lakshmikary > > > Monday, May 16, 2005 12:28 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Vargothamamsa > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna > > > Dear Roy, > > > ANy planet that is in the same sign in rasi and navamsa is called > > > vargottama. > > > If a planet is exalted in rasi and navamsa it is very good and > > > powerful. > > > If a planet is debilitate or weak in a sign in both rasi and > navamsa > > > is is twice as bad,weak.Depending on what it is doing in the other > > > charts also makes a big difference as well.Navamsa is more > important > > > than Rasi. > > > > > > If a planet is exalted in rasi and yet debilitated in navamsa it > > > causes cancellation of good effects.AND vice versa. > > > Further than that you can check to see how many times a planet is > > > in its own,exalted,sign in the other divisional charts. > > > In BPHS yu can read about the different grouping of divisions. > > > Shadvarga = Using six divisions(varga charts), Dasa Varga =10 > > > division scheme > > > lso , most commonly used division is the Dasa varga scheme with > > these > > > divisions > > > > > > rasi,hora,drekkana,saptamsa,navamsa,dasamsa,dwadasamsa,shodasamsa,trim > > > samsa,shashtyamsa. > > > for example if a planet has attained his > exaltation,own,moolatrikona > > > position in 4 out of the dasa varga scheme it is known > > > as "Gopuramsa". > > > If a planet is involved in a raja yoga ,etc in rasi chart but all > > > has also attained the same in many more varga charts ie D-3,D- > 10,etc > > > etc/ then you can assume that the raja yoga will fructify. > > > If that is the only time the planet is exlated is in the rasi it > is > > > not so strong to give results. > > > You can read all about this in SJCs Varga Chakra book- a > compilation > > > of lectures about all the Varga divisions and their results etc > > given > > > at the SJC Hyderabad conference. > > > If you are in USA you can purchase from me for $13.plus 4 dollars > > > shipping. > > > All the best. > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "nop61661" > <nutrideias@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > Can anybody please help me clarify some points regarding > > > vargothama? > > > > My > > > > doubts are: > > > > > > > > 1.) Does vargothamamsa condition also apply to Rahu & Ketu? > > > > > > > > 2.) It is stated that if a planet in a same sign and, thus, > being > > > > vargottama > > > > is very powerful. It is compared are being in its own sign. > Also, > > > if > > > > the > > > > planet is in its fallen sign and also being vargottama, the > > > > debilitating > > > > effect is intensified, and thus, worse off. But is this > condition > > > only > > > > applicable to Rasi chart? That is, if the fallen condition > exists > > > > only in > > > > navansa chart, will this worsen condition also verify? > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your kind reply. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Roy Kamiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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