Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury (Shri ChandrShekhar)

May 27, 2005

This is a very important post for me. It'll go long way to understand MK's

effects in actual life. I was confused about Marankarka placement of planets

and it's parctical effects on the natives as i have seen that many people have

planets in MK and they have not suffered in the karkatatva or bhava results.

now i got the hint to test it further with the malefic Association with the said planets.

regards,

utpalChandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Narasimha,You are right. Jataka Parijata does say 7th house for Mercury. It

also fives additional conditions for the Marana effects to occur in these houses

which are,"..tasminpaapayute.athavaa paapadrishte.arineechasthe durbale

duKkhamaapnuyaat". So the planet will have to be in Marana Karana Sthana with a

malefic or aspected by malefic or in Neecha Rasi and weak for it to give sorrow

(dukkha).Sanjay, perhaps, relies on Sthana vishesha where planets can not give

their effects and where the condition of being with malefic etc. are not

,apparently, applicable. Incidentally it is interesting that the first

Maranakarana Sthana shlokas appear in adhyaaya, which deals with Kalachakra

dasha(Adhyaaya 17), whereas one not requiring malefic association as a

condition appears in Adhyaaya 2 related to Graha swarupa. The relevant shlokas

are:

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Syat.52.ariñöadäste'khilajätakeñu sadä'ñöamasthaùçaniriñöadaù syäta||52||

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därasthänagataù kujaù|twa jNmgtae mNdae ra÷nRvm raizg>.34.tathä janmagato mando

rähurnavama räçigaù||34||cNÔae=òm¢h< yat> sUyaeR ir:)g&h< gt>,candro'ñöamagrahaà

yätaù süryo riñphagåhaà gataù|bux> sÝmÉavSwae

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mr[swan< tiSmNpapyute=wva,ityevaà maraëasthänaà

tasminpäpayute'thavä|pap†òe=irnIcSwe ÊbRle Ê>omaßuyat!.36.päpadåñöe'rinécasthe

durbale duùkhamäpnuyät||36||Indicating Bhavas whetre malefic association etc.

are required.I have used sanskrit99 fonts on alternate lines of the

shloka.Chandrashekhar.Narasimha P.V.R. Rao wrote: Namaste,On vedic astrology

, there has been a discussion on whether Mercury's marana karaka

sthana is 7th or 4th and on the significance of marana karaka sthanas.Sanjay ji

gave 7th as Mercury's marana karaka sthana earlier, but changed it to 4th

recently. I am not sure of the classical basis he has for 4th, but the reverred

classic "Jataka Parijatam" I think mentions 7th for Mercury. JHora uses 7th and

not 4th.I have explained the basis and significance of marana karaka sthana in

one of my lessons (link below). I will summarize quickly.These are the houses

where the planets are most uncomfortable/feel awkward. To do justice to the

house they occupy, they have to work extra hard and, in the process, the houses

they own suffer. Thus, houses/karakatwa owned by planets in marana karaka sthana

suffer.Sun is the significator of ego. He feels awkward in the 12th

house of overcoming ego. Jupiter likes peace. He feels awkward in the 3rd house

of weapons and boldness. Mars is the significator of wars and fighting. He is

very comfortable in the 6th house. But, if you place him in the 7th house and

tell him to give somebody a relationship and marriage, he will feel awkward

about it. Similarly, Venus is the giver of love, relationships and marriage. If

you place him in the 6th house of war and bachelorhood, he will be most

uncomfortable there. Rahu, the planet of adharma, naturally feels awkward in

the 9th house of dharma, religion and temple. Saturn is the giver of disease

and suffering. If you place him in the 1st house of health and tell him to take

care of someone's health, he will naturally feel awkward.Thus, marana karaka

sthanas of planets are places where they are not comfortable and where they

have to work extra hard to do justice. In the process, other promises of the

planet suffer.May Jupiter's light shine on

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May 31, 2005

om namo bhagavate vāsudevāya

Dear Utpal

Need not be.What connection does lagna have to the kama bhava matters of mithuna rasi?

Infact if mithuna is the lagna then the native has early realisation of this and

understands this, provided Mercury is strong. I have found most mithuna lagna

people to be concerned about and serious about not having such vices.

If Mithuna is in the 2nd house from UL then you will see how this thing comes

out, also with mithuna in A7 or such areas. I have found that mihuna in 2nd

from UL never fails to give multiple partners, especially in countries and

places where the rasi is very strong like big cities.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060 India

Phone +91-11-25717162, http://srath.com

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Utpal Pathak [vedic_pathak ]

Pt. Sanjay Rath[guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com]

Saturday, May 28, 2005 05:47 PM:

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Marana Karaka Sthana of

Mercury (Shri ChandrShekhar)

Dear Sanjay Rathji,

Thank you for your note and good explanation of Mercury and it's MK Stana.

Unfortunately I belong to Mithuna Lagna but always saved by the lord from all

the Vices attached to it.

thanks again for rememberig me.

respectfully yours,

Utpal Pathak "Pt. Sanjay Rath" <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

om namo bhagavate vāsudevāya

Dear Utpal and Chandrasekhar ji

I have consistantly held that there are two opinions about the marana sthana of

Mercury - perhaps because of the peculiar dualistic nature of Mercury. Look at

its houses - Gemini is the most impure indicating prostitution and what not all

evils and look at Virgo the purest of the pure. Perhaps the marana sthana has to

do with these two houses unlike the other planets. Perhaps the marana sthana of

Mercury in the 7th house related to Virgo where the purity or *virginity* of

the virgin is lost and the 4th house relates to the marana sthana for Gemini

where the avidya and evil comes to an end due to home. In fact youngsters are

always concerned or *controlled* by the awareness or some fear of home -

parents.

Regards and thanks for the probe

Sanjay

15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060 India

Phone 11-25717162, http://srath.com

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Utpal Pathak [vedic_pathak ]

vedic astrology

Saturday, May 28, 2005 09:59 AM:

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Marana Karaka Sthana of

Mercury (Shri ChandrShekhar)

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,