Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Vijayadas, Namaste. i was wondering why your reply did not reach me. i believe there was some server problem. Okay that has been set right now. What is that hint about Vidya Dhan my dear?! OM NAMA SIVAAYA NAMO BHIMASHANKARAAYA. Do you have some space in your board for me to write something? i hope so. The word Bhava stands for the number 44 as per katapayadi varga. When you expunge 36 the reminder is 8. Now the question arises as to why should we expunge 36? The brahmanda or the cosmos is one. How do we understand the cosmos in its entirety? Is there a way out? We stay in this bhoo loka called otherwise called as Mrityu loka. We understand that the earth rotates and we also know the luminaries and on account of which the day/night division is also understood. Let us place Sun and Moon in the first degrees of Aswini and commence our observation. By the time the Sun reaches 27 degrees we find the Moon having completed the zodiacal revoultion once. By the time Sun reaches the 30th degree we find the Moon also catching up Sun. So from the first unison to the second unison it has taken for the Sun to move a space arc of 30 degrees. Thus if the Sun has to cover 360 degrees then it would result in 12 such unisons. By the time we understand the brahmanda in full we would have had 12 such unisons of Sun & Moon. Mark the unisons as pinda. We therefore have 12 pindas to understand one brahma. With the help of Sivasakthi aiyakya swaroopas we understand the cosmos in its entirety. This Sivasakthi aiykya swaroopa is personified as Nataraja - a combination of static state and dyanamic state - an apparently still posture representing the height of velocity. This makes one thing clear that the 12 divisions of zodiac owes its existance to Sivasakthi aiykyam/unison of luminaries. Rashi means cluster of stars. To undersand the dwadasha rashis we need to understand the unisons of Sun and Moon. The cosmic life principle is infact understood by this unison. The junction of Ida and pingala is called as the suksumna. This sukshmna is infact the bhava based on which brahmopadesa is given at the time of upanayana(investiture of sacred thread - 3 threads tied together at a joint called as Bhrama). The mantra that is given as upadesa at the time of investiture is called as Savitur Gayathri otherwise called as Bhrama gayathri. This mantra has 24 aksharas. These 24 aksharas infact represent the measure of kaala. It takes 4 seconds for one prana which means it takes 6 pranas to make one vighati which is the base for gender differentiation. We now want to divide the zodiac into two halves one belonging to Sun and one belonging to Moon. The Solar half is represented by the arc from Leo to Capricorn while the Lunar half is represented by the arc from Kataka to Kumba. Whenever a decision is taken in the brahmanda the same is echoed in the pindanda. This means we now have 24 segments based on our original mathematics that one brahma is equal to 12 pindas. This means if we want to look at the zodiac into 60 segments we would have 720 segments for which the adhara is the movement of Sun and Moon. As the division of the brahmanda increases it becomes cumbersome. Is there a way to understand the cosmos in an easier way? The Lord gives us the solution. Just as the cornor of a sweatmeat contains the sweatness of the entire sweat similarly the pindas can throw light on the adhara. The beeja contains the essence of the vriksha. Bhava has been referred earlier as the mark of unison of Sun and Moon. The 12 pindas help to explain the brahma in whole. Whether it is creation or procreation the unison of the parents(Sivasakthi) is essential. To understand the cosmos in its entirety, to understand the paramatma the parambhava has to be necessarily superimposed in the ahambhava. Once this superimposition has taken place then it would be easier to understand the pinda which would then easily pave the way for understanding the Bhrama. Now coming back to the original understanding of Bhava as 8 after expunging 36 which is nothing but 3 zodiacal rounds of 12 pindas. If we use the word pindi instead of pindas then we would be having dwadasajyothir lingas. What does this 8 refer to? Rest in next. Best wishes. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Ramanarayanan ji As vidya dhan is important than all other,your analogy of Kubera/treasure/hidden is insightful.But is Kubera and Budha specifically related because of trade/money etc. Jarasandha example showing karaka parivartana effect is very good.Thus can i assume grahas cannot be marked as bad due to Maranakaraka position alone. I think your mail is pointing towards the importance of mutual dispositions or tranfer/parivartana to make the effects full. Like interchange preventing reunion of Jarasandhas torn portions. I have more doubts.Sun when placed in first will give karaka bhava naash results. Under Bhagya gogas,i have read that,the graha which is in the 12th from Lagna will give bhagya according to its karakatwa. Thus sun as karaka for lagna,father etc should give bhagya for those matters?.Thus the point made regarding karaka parivartana makes matters more clear. Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, rama narayanan <sree88ganesha> wrote: > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Vijayadas, > > Namaste. Buda comes under the domain of Kubera whose > sampath is akin to treasure. You know treasure is > always hidden and seekers of treasure are ruled by > matsarya a weakness blessed by Buda. > > As regards marana karaka sthana you think of > Jarasandha and his death. Bhima tore him apart number > of times but everytime he did that the torn portions > attached easily and Jarasanda was back with full > vigour. It was Krsna who suggested Bhima to change the > positions of torn portions as wrong sides do not > attract/attach. Take the karakatwa of planets. Karaka > for 1st house is Sun while the karaka of 12th house is > Sani. When you place Sun and Sani in 12th house and > 1st house respectively they face a situation similar > to that of Jarasandha - a marana karaka avastha is it > not! > > There is great deal of knowledge involved in this > karaka parivartana. > > Best wishes. > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> > wrote: > > > > Dear respected members > > In local parlance there is a saying -''Maranja Budhan > Niranju > nalkum''.It means hidden budha will give in > full.Hidden houses may be > 8,6.Also 12? > I feel mercury being a quick planet may get distracted > easily. > Hence himslef in a hidden position(i feel kendras are > the most exposed > areas with respect to our lagna or oursleves.Trikonas > may be the > additional or boosting areas. > When budha is less distracted ,he can oncentrate well > and give good > vidya.This is my personal understanding of the > quotation and seek > learned members opinion. > > Regds > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, > "SuryaViswanadham" > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Samal, > > > > The discussion is about a definition. Is Mer said to > be in MKS in the > > 4th or in anyother house. The Q is something > simmilar to whether Jup > > is putrakaraka or some other planet? > > > > > > That is the case here. If you can quote anything > with references to > > classical texts, it will be useful for the > discussion. > > > > > > > > (You know how Mer was born to Chandra & Tara - you > know the story?) > > > > regards > > Surya > > > > > > vedic astrology, "psamal25" > <psamal25> > > wrote: > > > Person with Mercury in 4th should be a mother's > pet. Afterall which > > > mother will not like a son inclined to earn > knowledge rather than > > > wondering around. However, do people study better > in home comfort > > or > > > they study better in a school/hostel/gurukul? The > distraction from > > > getting the best of knowledges makes such a person > unsatisfied. > > > I also read somewhere, 10th house and 4th house > are like king and > > > minister for the lagnesh. Even if we the king is > weak a strong and > > > inteligent minister will definitely help the > subject. > > > > > > Having talked about 4th Mercury, can we say > Mercury in other houses > > > is better? I don't think so. We need a complete > view of a chart. My > > > langesh budha in Leo does not give me the best > perception and > > > intelegence I wish to have. Why? It is aspected by > Saturn. > > > > > > P. Samal > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I think there can be so many things which can > modify "merc in 4th" > > > > results. I dont know much of the astrology, But > In my case, For > > > Libra > > > > lagna, I have merc (9L-12L) placed in 4th along > with exalted > > > > Mars(2L-7L). There is also parivartan of 4L Sani > (in 9th)with 9L > > > > merc(in 4th). Also, In navamsha merc is again in > 4th along with > > > > exalted moon (which happens to be my AK or in > this case as its > > > > navamsha, 'Karakamsa'). With all this, I have > been told, My coming > > > > merc mahadasa will be good. I should expect some > leadership > > > > opportunities coming as merc is with exalted > mars forming Ruchak > > > Yoga > > > > and gains in foreign land and happiniess. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > - Kaushik. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "sanjayprabhakaran" > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Surya, > > > > > Good point you mentioned Jyataka Parijata on > this, Vidyanatha > > > calls > > > > > it Viphala Or Fruitless position. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, When you mentioned Mercury Dasa and > Mercury in 4th. My > > > take > > > > > is that all that's mentioned by Sages do come > right. But, A BIG > > > BUT > > > > > here, the point is When?! will it come true?. > The timing is > > > > > essential. All that mentioned need not come > true in the whole > > > dasa. > > > > > Mercury's results in 4th will come only in > last part of the > > > dasa,If he > > > > > is benefic. And if malefic then in the first > part of the dasa. > > > > > > > > > > But Viphala or fruitless to whom? is the next > question you have > > to > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "SuryaViswanadham" > > > > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Utpal & Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not much worried about logic, i've Mer > in the 4th and > > the > > > dasa > > > > > > is running (lot of learning is taking place, > but i am not > > happy > > > > > > because i want to get out and do my bit, > which is not > > > happening). > > > > > > Also, Jataka Parijata gives that Mer is bad > in the 4th (in > > COVA > > > > > > Sanjay also says that as per some experts > 4th is a bad > > > placement for > > > > > > Mer (could be a hint). > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha can learn from the horse's mouth and > enlighten us. > > i'll > > > > > > certainly be happy to learn that Mer is not > bad in the 4th > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "utpal pathak" > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You also have a v.good counter logic. but > most of the > > > students > > > > > > > (children) will not like when they are > asked to study at > > home > > > then > > > > > > > playing outside. i think that's Unhappy > situation for Budha > > > but as > > > > > > > you said it may not be totally bad such as > 'Maran Karka' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > Partha Sarathy > > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > Mercury is a student, he is vidya > karaka. I can > > understand > > > that > > > > > > > he rules > > > > > > > > play and playgrounds, but that is what > kids do. But they > > > also > > > > > > like > > > > > > > to study > > > > > > > > to get good marks. This is not an > acceptable logic to > > kill > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > fourth. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/25/05, SuryaViswanadham > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In his mp3 audio lessons, PVR did > mention this as a > > > private > > > > > > > lesson from > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Ji . Mercury wants to get out > and play, 4th type > > > of > > > > > > > sitting and > > > > > > > > > reading (learning ) is not liked by > Mer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is how i understood it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy > > > > > > > <partvinu@g...> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anurag > > > > > > > > > > Can you point out the mail message > number where he > > said > > > this? > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic- > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on > us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > V.Partha Sarathy, > > > > > > > > partvinu.blogspot.com > <http://partvinu.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All that we are is the result of what we > have thought. If > > a > > > man > > > > > > > speaks or > > > > > > > > acts with an evil thought, pain follows > him. If a man > > > speaks or > > > > > > > acts with a > > > > > > > > pure thought, happiness follows him, > like a shadow that > > > never > > > > > > > leaves him. > > > > > > > > -----Buddha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plot.no.71 > > > > > > > > Road No.3 > > > > > > > > Nagarjuna Hills > > > > > > > > Hyderabad > > > > > > > > India-500 082 > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... 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