Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Lakshman, Namaste, I would like show a difference in opinion on your view, > sun is > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all famous Sun represents the Soul but not the Ahamkaara, Rahu represents the Ahamkaara, is my opinion. Sri Kalyana Varma also says the same. It's the nodes which causes Ahamkaara, As nodes are untrue and and shadowy. So is Ahamkaara. Sun gives pride which is very different from Ahamkaara. Pride gives sense of happiness(well being) over our individuality which has caused this myriad of creations. Warm Regards Sanjay P Hari Om Tat Sat Chapter 4 in his book -2. Kalapurushas Soul etc. and their Use. The Sun is the soul of the Zodiac personified, the Moon mind, Mars strength, Mercury speech (voice), Jupiter intelligence, Venus comforts, Rahu ego and Saturn grief. If at birth planets indicative of soul etc. are strong, these significations will equally be strong. If these planets are weak, the effects are only meagre. But in the case of Saturn it is different. vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma> wrote: > Dear Rao Nemani > self realisation is a great thing and you are on the > correct track. Also I am not advising but sharing my > thoughts. as long as you are honest and sincere you do > not need to justify. It is the 'I' in each of us which > makes us behave the way where we tend to aggrevate > others. but take each of these mistakes as lessons > that we are supposed to learn in this life as they say > everything happens for a reason. once you overcome > these shortcommings there will be no stops or road > blocks to reach the destination. > something to ponder: Sun is your AK and also sun is > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all famous > politicians charts. Sun will play an important role. > at the same time sun is a universal giver. It is a > Krura as well as a saatvik planet. > please continue the work that you are doing. > > Wish you all the best > Lakshman > > --- Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008> wrote: > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namaste Pradeep, Joe and All, > > > > After few days/weeks of bloodshed internally and > > externally, the things are making more sense now to > > me. I suppose I was totally taken aback by the > > comments from you when you attempted to show the > > path which I went was not 100% correct. I was > > partially wrong but a fraction of wrong thing is > > wrong that is what I have realised in the past 2 > > days of deep thinking and meditation on the past > > events. > > > > I have also reaslized that, I was totally carried > > away with the method I was working on those to solve > > those puzzles. The method was so simple and can find > > the things very easily and I was in a great hurry to > > explain to my fellow students, hence forgot/ignored > > the rules of the game. But now I have realized that, > > and may be I went too far. I am sorry folks for > > that. Please do not misundersand my stratight > > forwardness and pure intensions to learn, share with > > my fellow studetns and assist people who are in need > > and some of you alaready know about me. > > > > I also had anger (before) on few people who wrote > > against me, but now I have understood them and > > forgiven them as they were trying to help me to > > overcome some amount of ego and pride which I was > > having that time, because I know some Jyotish. I > > also know, I know very little compared to what I > > know 2 years ago, because, every day when I learn > > some thing new, I see a ocean of Jyotish knowledge > > infront of me and makes me to feel, a loooong way to > > go. I also know very well and even told many people, > > Jyotish knowledge does not come in one life time and > > it takes several life times. > > > > After all, this is the lesson may be my mother > > Mahalakshmi wanted to teach me to be more honest and > > humble by controling my AtmaKaraka Surya(Sun). While > > checking my own dasa's, at the following time > > > > July 8, 2005 > > Time: 6:11:34 > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > > Place: 93 W 20' 59", 44 N 53' 23" > > USA > > > > I have noticed that, today ( Friday and during the > > Ven Hora, see my mother Mahalakhsmi Ven at my rescue > > again), I have completed the Rahu Pratyantar dasa > > and Jup Pratyantar dasa started, hence I belive Guru > > is giving the su-buddhi to realize on my past > > mistakes and to be utmost truthful in my way of > > life. > > > > Thank you to all of you who wrote to me privately > > and supported me during this rough time which was > > really helpful. Also I wanted to say sorry to Guru > > Partha Sarathy Ji too, as I had different opinions > > on some of his beliefs few weeks ago. Now I have > > also recognized that, every one can have their > > opinions and beliefs and why should I worry about > > that, rather I should learn to respect them. So > > Partha Garu please accept my apologies and forgive > > my mistake of insulting you in your beliefs, as you > > know how much I respect Gurus. Thanks to my Guru Ji > > and my Mother Mahalakhsmi for their blessings on me > > to realize this very quickly without too much of > > drag and fall in dharma. Whoever came to contact > > with me,I always advised to follow dharma and I will > > follow that too. > > > > We all know, no one is perfect and flawless in the > > current times and these mistakes made me strong and > > will move me forward in search for the light with > > the help of Gurus and learned members. Thanks once > > again Pradeep, and Joe for helping me to over come > > this. Thanks for listening and let us continue > > learning Jyotish together. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > __ > Sell on Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. > http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Namaste Sanjay P, It is a long time that we comunicated. It seems after moving to Pittsburg, we lost touch. Also pardon me for not getting to you earlier. Please do give your tele contact as I would like to talk to you some times. Frankly, after you & narayan left the study group, the group collapsed with suresh moving to India, Dr Ashwin busy with other things etc. Also I am not spending much time in astrological studies but on the positive side I have found a guru who is teaching me veda and also got me involved in a religious committe for a local temple.I spend some time in the temple(Sri Guruvaayur temple in morgan ville, NJ)during the week apart from my work, which leaves a very little time in astrology. My only astro activity is reading the mails from others and if some things flash in my mind I try to participate in the List. Thanks for pointing out the diference between "I" in PrIde() and "I" in Ahamkara. but I feel toomuch of Pride also leads to Ahamkaara. but you may be right. We should look for the influence of nodes too. Thanks for the enlightenment. with warm regards and look forward to speak to you. Lakshman --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Lakshman, > Namaste, > I would like show a difference in opinion on your > view, > > > sun is > > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun > > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all > famous > > Sun represents the Soul but not the Ahamkaara, Rahu > represents the > Ahamkaara, is my opinion. Sri Kalyana Varma also > says the same. > It's the nodes which causes Ahamkaara, As nodes are > untrue and and > shadowy. So is Ahamkaara. > Sun gives pride which is very different from > Ahamkaara. Pride gives > sense of happiness(well being) over our > individuality which has caused > this myriad of creations. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > Chapter 4 in his book > -2. Kalapurushas Soul etc. and their Use. The Sun is > the soul of the > Zodiac personified, the Moon mind, Mars strength, > Mercury speech > (voice), Jupiter intelligence, Venus comforts, Rahu > ego and Saturn > grief. If at birth planets indicative of soul etc. > are strong, these > significations will equally be strong. If these > planets are weak, the > effects are only meagre. But in the case of Saturn > it is different. > > > > > vedic astrology, Lakshman > Brahma <lbrahma> > wrote: > > Dear Rao Nemani > > self realisation is a great thing and you are on > the > > correct track. Also I am not advising but sharing > my > > thoughts. as long as you are honest and sincere > you do > > not need to justify. It is the 'I' in each of us > which > > makes us behave the way where we tend to aggrevate > > others. but take each of these mistakes as lessons > > that we are supposed to learn in this life as they > say > > everything happens for a reason. once you overcome > > these shortcommings there will be no stops or road > > blocks to reach the destination. > > something to ponder: Sun is your AK and also sun > is > > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun > > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all > famous > > politicians charts. Sun will play an important > role. > > at the same time sun is a universal giver. It is a > > Krura as well as a saatvik planet. > > please continue the work that you are doing. > > > > Wish you all the best > > Lakshman > > > > --- Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008> wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep, Joe and All, > > > > > > After few days/weeks of bloodshed internally and > > > externally, the things are making more sense now > to > > > me. I suppose I was totally taken aback by the > > > comments from you when you attempted to show the > > > path which I went was not 100% correct. I was > > > partially wrong but a fraction of wrong thing is > > > wrong that is what I have realised in the past 2 > > > days of deep thinking and meditation on the past > > > events. > > > > > > I have also reaslized that, I was totally > carried > > > away with the method I was working on those to > solve > > > those puzzles. The method was so simple and can > find > > > the things very easily and I was in a great > hurry to > > > explain to my fellow students, hence > forgot/ignored > > > the rules of the game. But now I have realized > that, > > > and may be I went too far. I am sorry folks for > > > that. Please do not misundersand my stratight > > > forwardness and pure intensions to learn, share > with > > > my fellow studetns and assist people who are in > need > > > and some of you alaready know about me. > > > > > > I also had anger (before) on few people who > wrote > > > against me, but now I have understood them and > > > forgiven them as they were trying to help me to > > > overcome some amount of ego and pride which I > was > > > having that time, because I know some Jyotish. I > > > also know, I know very little compared to what I > > > know 2 years ago, because, every day when I > learn > > > some thing new, I see a ocean of Jyotish > knowledge > > > infront of me and makes me to feel, a loooong > way to > > > go. I also know very well and even told many > people, > > > Jyotish knowledge does not come in one life time > and > > > it takes several life times. > > > > > > After all, this is the lesson may be my mother > > > Mahalakshmi wanted to teach me to be more honest > and > > > humble by controling my AtmaKaraka Surya(Sun). > While > > > checking my own dasa's, at the following time > > > > > > July 8, 2005 > > > Time: 6:11:34 > > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > > > Place: 93 W 20' 59", 44 N 53' 23" > > > USA > > > > > > I have noticed that, today ( Friday and during > the > > > Ven Hora, see my mother Mahalakhsmi Ven at my > rescue > > > again), I have completed the Rahu Pratyantar > dasa > > > and Jup Pratyantar dasa started, hence I belive > Guru > > > is giving the su-buddhi to realize on my past > > > mistakes and to be utmost truthful in my way of > > > life. > > > > > > Thank you to all of you who wrote to me > privately > > > and supported me during this rough time which > was > > > really helpful. Also I wanted to say sorry to > Guru > > > Partha Sarathy Ji too, as I had different > opinions > > > on some of his beliefs few weeks ago. Now I have > > > also recognized that, every one can have their > > > opinions and beliefs and why should I worry > about > > > that, rather I should learn to respect them. So > > > Partha Garu please accept my apologies and > forgive > > > my mistake of insulting you in your beliefs, as > you > > > know how much I respect Gurus. Thanks to my Guru > Ji > > > and my Mother Mahalakhsmi for their blessings on > me > > > to realize this very quickly without too much of > > > drag and fall in dharma. Whoever came to contact > > > with me,I always advised to follow dharma and I > will > > > follow that too. > > > > > > We all know, no one is perfect and flawless in > the > > > current times and these mistakes made me strong > and > > > will move me forward in search for the light > with > > > the help of Gurus and learned members. Thanks > once > === message truncated === __ Sell on Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Dear All, Again same old issue ! 98 % of the contents of this email has no relevance to the forum members ! what must be objective in such emails ? Ego ? Show off ? Or a hidden agenda that "we who have migrated to USA are different than those unfortunate ones who are still in India ?" I cannot guess further. But let us get focused on astrology and understand the difference in personal emails and forum postings. regards, Anil - Lakshman Brahma sanjaychettiar ; vedic astrology Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:16 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Sun as Ahamkaara No Rahu, Namaste Sanjay P,It is a long time that we comunicated. It seems aftermoving to Pittsburg, we lost touch. Also pardon me fornot getting to you earlier. Please do give your telecontact as I would like to talk to you some times.Frankly, after you & narayan left the study group, thegroup collapsed with suresh moving to India, Dr Ashwinbusy with other things etc. Also I am not spendingmuch time in astrological studies but on the positiveside I have found a guru who is teaching me veda andalso got me involved in a religious committe for alocal temple.I spend some time in the temple(SriGuruvaayur temple in morgan ville, NJ)during the weekapart from my work, which leaves a very little time inastrology. My only astro activity is reading the mailsfrom others and if some things flash in my mind I tryto participate in the List.Thanks for pointing out the diference between "I" inPrIde() and "I" in Ahamkara. but I feel toomuch ofPride also leads to Ahamkaara. but you may be right.We should look for the influence of nodes too.Thanks for the enlightenment.with warm regards and look forward to speak to you.Lakshman--- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar >wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Lakshman,> Namaste,> I would like show a difference in opinion on your> view,> > > sun is> > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun> > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all> famous> > Sun represents the Soul but not the Ahamkaara, Rahu> represents the> Ahamkaara, is my opinion. Sri Kalyana Varma also> says the same.> It's the nodes which causes Ahamkaara, As nodes are> untrue and and> shadowy. So is Ahamkaara.> Sun gives pride which is very different from> Ahamkaara. Pride gives> sense of happiness(well being) over our> individuality which has caused> this myriad of creations.> > Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > Chapter 4 in his book> -2. Kalapurushas Soul etc. and their Use. The Sun is> the soul of the> Zodiac personified, the Moon mind, Mars strength,> Mercury speech> (voice), Jupiter intelligence, Venus comforts, Rahu> ego and Saturn> grief. If at birth planets indicative of soul etc.> are strong, these> significations will equally be strong. If these> planets are weak, the> effects are only meagre. But in the case of Saturn> it is different.> > > > > vedic astrology, Lakshman> Brahma <lbrahma>> wrote:> > Dear Rao Nemani> > self realisation is a great thing and you are on> the> > correct track. Also I am not advising but sharing> my> > thoughts. as long as you are honest and sincere> you do> > not need to justify. It is the 'I' in each of us> which> > makes us behave the way where we tend to aggrevate> > others. but take each of these mistakes as lessons> > that we are supposed to learn in this life as they> say> > everything happens for a reason. once you overcome> > these shortcommings there will be no stops or road> > blocks to reach the destination.> > something to ponder: Sun is your AK and also sun> is> > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun> > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all> famous> > politicians charts. Sun will play an important> role.> > at the same time sun is a universal giver. It is a> > Krura as well as a saatvik planet.> > please continue the work that you are doing.> > > > Wish you all the best > > Lakshman> > > > --- Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008> wrote:> > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru> > > > > > Namaste Pradeep, Joe and All,> > > > > > After few days/weeks of bloodshed internally and> > > externally, the things are making more sense now> to> > > me. I suppose I was totally taken aback by the> > > comments from you when you attempted to show the> > > path which I went was not 100% correct. I was> > > partially wrong but a fraction of wrong thing is> > > wrong that is what I have realised in the past 2> > > days of deep thinking and meditation on the past> > > events. > > > > > > I have also reaslized that, I was totally> carried> > > away with the method I was working on those to> solve> > > those puzzles. The method was so simple and can> find> > > the things very easily and I was in a great> hurry to> > > explain to my fellow students, hence> forgot/ignored> > > the rules of the game. But now I have realized> that,> > > and may be I went too far. I am sorry folks for> > > that. Please do not misundersand my stratight> > > forwardness and pure intensions to learn, share> with> > > my fellow studetns and assist people who are in> need> > > and some of you alaready know about me.> > > > > > I also had anger (before) on few people who> wrote> > > against me, but now I have understood them and> > > forgiven them as they were trying to help me to> > > overcome some amount of ego and pride which I> was> > > having that time, because I know some Jyotish. I> > > also know, I know very little compared to what I> > > know 2 years ago, because, every day when I> learn> > > some thing new, I see a ocean of Jyotish> knowledge> > > infront of me and makes me to feel, a loooong> way to> > > go. I also know very well and even told many> people,> > > Jyotish knowledge does not come in one life time> and> > > it takes several life times. > > > > > > After all, this is the lesson may be my mother> > > Mahalakshmi wanted to teach me to be more honest> and> > > humble by controling my AtmaKaraka Surya(Sun).> While> > > checking my own dasa's, at the following time> > > > > > July 8, 2005> > > Time: 6:11:34> > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)> > > Place: 93 W 20' 59", 44 N 53' 23"> > > USA> > > > > > I have noticed that, today ( Friday and during> the> > > Ven Hora, see my mother Mahalakhsmi Ven at my> rescue> > > again), I have completed the Rahu Pratyantar> dasa> > > and Jup Pratyantar dasa started, hence I belive> Guru> > > is giving the su-buddhi to realize on my past> > > mistakes and to be utmost truthful in my way of> > > life.> > > > > > Thank you to all of you who wrote to me> privately> > > and supported me during this rough time which> was> > > really helpful. Also I wanted to say sorry to> Guru> > > Partha Sarathy Ji too, as I had different> opinions> > > on some of his beliefs few weeks ago. Now I have> > > also recognized that, every one can have their> > > opinions and beliefs and why should I worry> about> > > that, rather I should learn to respect them. So> > > Partha Garu please accept my apologies and> forgive> > > my mistake of insulting you in your beliefs, as> you> > > know how much I respect Gurus. Thanks to my Guru> Ji> > > and my Mother Mahalakhsmi for their blessings on> me> > > to realize this very quickly without too much of> > > drag and fall in dharma. Whoever came to contact> > > with me,I always advised to follow dharma and I> will> > > follow that too. > > > > > > We all know, no one is perfect and flawless in> the> > > current times and these mistakes made me strong> and> > > will move me forward in search for the light> with> > > the help of Gurus and learned members. Thanks> once> === message truncated === __Sell on Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions./Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Astrology chart Vedic astrology Dasa Astrology horoscope Astrology software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Anil I was thinking of ignoring this mail but felt like replying. Pray do tell me how much your mail has contributed to learning apart from the fact that you are trying to act like some moderator of the list. even if you are thinking of doing the same where were you when mails from likes of dharmesh were swamping the list? Any how I don't want to drag this issue further and as Shri sanjay P has said we do intend to use this list for exchanging views from our study groups. Lakshman --- Anil VSNL <gogatea wrote: > Dear All, > > Again same old issue ! 98 % of the contents of this > email has no relevance to the forum members ! what > must be objective in such emails ? Ego ? Show off ? > Or a hidden agenda that "we who have migrated to USA > are different than those unfortunate ones who are > still in India ?" > > I cannot guess further. > > But let us get focused on astrology and understand > the difference in personal emails and forum > postings. > > regards, > > Anil > - > Lakshman Brahma > sanjaychettiar ; > vedic astrology > Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:16 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Sun as Ahamkaara No > Rahu, > > > Namaste Sanjay P, > It is a long time that we comunicated. It seems > after > moving to Pittsburg, we lost touch. Also pardon me > for > not getting to you earlier. Please do give your > tele > contact as I would like to talk to you some times. > Frankly, after you & narayan left the study group, > the > group collapsed with suresh moving to India, Dr > Ashwin > busy with other things etc. Also I am not spending > much time in astrological studies but on the > positive > side I have found a guru who is teaching me veda > and > also got me involved in a religious committe for a > local temple.I spend some time in the temple(Sri > Guruvaayur temple in morgan ville, NJ)during the > week > apart from my work, which leaves a very little > time in > astrology. My only astro activity is reading the > mails > from others and if some things flash in my mind I > try > to participate in the List. > > Thanks for pointing out the diference between "I" > in > PrIde() and "I" in Ahamkara. but I feel toomuch > of > Pride also leads to Ahamkaara. but you may be > right. > We should look for the influence of nodes too. > > Thanks for the enlightenment. > > with warm regards and look forward to speak to > you. > Lakshman > > > > --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar > wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Lakshman, > > Namaste, > > I would like show a difference in opinion on > your > > view, > > > > > sun is > > > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun > > > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all > > famous > > > > Sun represents the Soul but not the Ahamkaara, > Rahu > > represents the > > Ahamkaara, is my opinion. Sri Kalyana Varma also > > says the same. > > It's the nodes which causes Ahamkaara, As nodes > are > > untrue and and > > shadowy. So is Ahamkaara. > > Sun gives pride which is very different from > > Ahamkaara. Pride gives > > sense of happiness(well being) over our > > individuality which has caused > > this myriad of creations. > > > > Warm Regards > > Sanjay P > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > Chapter 4 in his book > > -2. Kalapurushas Soul etc. and their Use. The > Sun is > > the soul of the > > Zodiac personified, the Moon mind, Mars > strength, > > Mercury speech > > (voice), Jupiter intelligence, Venus comforts, > Rahu > > ego and Saturn > > grief. If at birth planets indicative of soul > etc. > > are strong, these > > significations will equally be strong. If these > > planets are weak, the > > effects are only meagre. But in the case of > Saturn > > it is different. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Lakshman > > Brahma <lbrahma> > > wrote: > > > Dear Rao Nemani > > > self realisation is a great thing and you are > on > > the > > > correct track. Also I am not advising but > sharing > > my > > > thoughts. as long as you are honest and > sincere > > you do > > > not need to justify. It is the 'I' in each of > us > > which > > > makes us behave the way where we tend to > aggrevate > > > others. but take each of these mistakes as > lessons > > > that we are supposed to learn in this life as > they > > say > > > everything happens for a reason. once you > overcome > > > these shortcommings there will be no stops or > road > > > blocks to reach the destination. > > > something to ponder: Sun is your AK and also > sun > > is > > > the natural signifactor for Aatma. Also sun > > > srepresents Ahamkaara or the ego. Look for all > > famous > > > politicians charts. Sun will play an important > > role. > > > at the same time sun is a universal giver. It > is a > > > Krura as well as a saatvik planet. > > > please continue the work that you are doing. > > > > > > Wish you all the best > > > Lakshman > > > > > > --- Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > > > Namaste Pradeep, Joe and All, > > > > > > > > After few days/weeks of bloodshed internally > and > > > > externally, the things are making more sense > now > > to > > > > me. I suppose I was totally taken aback by > the > > > > comments from you when you attempted to show > the > > > > path which I went was not 100% correct. I > was > > > > partially wrong but a fraction of wrong > thing is > > > > wrong that is what I have realised in the > past 2 > > > > days of deep thinking and meditation on the > past > === message truncated === __ Sell on Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.