How does one identify which UL would turn out to be the effective UL?

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Respected guruji's,

 

I am reading up on Upapada's/marriage and am not able to find out which

UL will materialze in marriage in my case.

 

I tried my original UL, then the 8th from it, then 8th again and so on..

I read a lot but now I am fully confused. The 2nd and 7th from UL show

breakage in marriage, 8th shows the longetivity of marriage, lord of UL

tells about the family of the spouse. The 7th house in navamsa tells

about the physical charactristics of spouse. One also has to consider

UL in navamsa. One also has to see the sign - whether its

malefic/benefic, the aspects of UL.

However all my UL's in raasi chart seem to have some problem or the

other, does that mean I'll not have a successful marriage?

 

There are so many things to consider and I can never be sure which of

the UL's would turn out to me my actual marriage UL.

How can I be sure that a strong one sided infatuation or an affair

qualifies and uses up a UL, due to which one would have to see the 8th

from UL, and consider that one as the effective UL?

 

My birth details after time rectification are

 

25th June 1977, 11:37 AM, Calcutta.

 

I would appreciate if some guruji helps me in this regard and analyse

my chart in depth with respect to marriage.

 

Thanks,

Anant.

[Guest guest]

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Anant,

 

Before you try a principle on your own chart for prediction, try to

use the principle on few examples. This way you will understand any

variations in the principle.

Why dont you take the charts of some married couples and test the

principle?.

If possible post your examples to the list so others may understand

it.

 

The rule for UL is that,

The spouce lagna can be in trines to UL

OR

Trines to 7th from UL (if 7th from UL is stronger).

 

For second spouce the UL is 8th from UL.

 

The UL is Vyaya pada(A12), Indicates the person to whom one is

destined to give to, Small relationships which does not take much

from the individual cannot be counted as UL. Is my opinion.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Anant Gilra"

<anti_gilra> wrote:

> Respected guruji's,

>

> I am reading up on Upapada's/marriage and am not able to find out

which

> UL will materialze in marriage in my case.

>

> I tried my original UL, then the 8th from it, then 8th again and

so on..

> I read a lot but now I am fully confused. The 2nd and 7th from UL

show

> breakage in marriage, 8th shows the longetivity of marriage, lord

of UL

> tells about the family of the spouse. The 7th house in navamsa

tells

> about the physical charactristics of spouse. One also has to

consider

> UL in navamsa. One also has to see the sign - whether its

> malefic/benefic, the aspects of UL.

> However all my UL's in raasi chart seem to have some problem or

the

> other, does that mean I'll not have a successful marriage?

>

> There are so many things to consider and I can never be sure which

of

> the UL's would turn out to me my actual marriage UL.

> How can I be sure that a strong one sided infatuation or an affair

> qualifies and uses up a UL, due to which one would have to see the

8th

> from UL, and consider that one as the effective UL?

>

> My birth details after time rectification are

>

> 25th June 1977, 11:37 AM, Calcutta.

>

> I would appreciate if some guruji helps me in this regard and

analyse

> my chart in depth with respect to marriage.

>

> Thanks,

> Anant.

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Sanjay ji,

 

Thank you for your response. I have actually tried this on many

couples and from that only I deducted that even small affairs do

contribute to UL, if they are from the heart. I looked into many

couples in my friends circle and my family, and the 1st UL didn't

match the couple's lagna as per the well know rule. However when I

broadened my perspective to 2nd and 3rd effective UL's things started

falling in place for all couples. In my case, I noticed the same

thing - small affairs did count as a UL, as at that time, I was

mentally fully into the relationship and only adverse situations

stopped me from marrying. Therefore they did count as a UL. My 1st,

2nd and 3rd UL's are already over, and I have matched with with the

girl's patri's with whom I have had infatuation/affair/roka. And the

surprising thing is that the infatuation lasted 5 yrs, the 1st affair

less than an year and the roka just 4-5months. But they all were

registered.

Therefore my coming marriage should be seen from my 4th UL. Could you

shed some light on how the prospects of my 4th UL are? I don't think

AL in the 12th from UL is a favourable position. Of course, many

other things like rotation of 7th house in navamsa, 2nd from 4th

effective UL, 7th from 4th effective UL and 8th from effective UL

should also be studied, aldo rasi and grah dristi's, argala's, and

lord of 4th effective UL, too. But unfortunately my general knowledge

of jyotish is restricted only to UL. Could you please help me with

this.

 

Thank you!

Anant Gilra.

 

 

vedic astrology, "sanjayprabhakaran"

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Dear Anant,

>

> Before you try a principle on your own chart for prediction, try

to

> use the principle on few examples. This way you will understand any

> variations in the principle.

> Why dont you take the charts of some married couples and test the

> principle?.

> If possible post your examples to the list so others may understand

> it.

>

> The rule for UL is that,

> The spouce lagna can be in trines to UL

> OR

> Trines to 7th from UL (if 7th from UL is stronger).

>

> For second spouce the UL is 8th from UL.

>

> The UL is Vyaya pada(A12), Indicates the person to whom one is

> destined to give to, Small relationships which does not take much

> from the individual cannot be counted as UL. Is my opinion.

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

> Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Anant Gilra"

> <anti_gilra> wrote:

> > Respected guruji's,

> >

> > I am reading up on Upapada's/marriage and am not able to find out

> which

> > UL will materialze in marriage in my case.

> >

> > I tried my original UL, then the 8th from it, then 8th again and

> so on..

> > I read a lot but now I am fully confused. The 2nd and 7th from UL

> show

> > breakage in marriage, 8th shows the longetivity of marriage, lord

> of UL

> > tells about the family of the spouse. The 7th house in navamsa

> tells

> > about the physical charactristics of spouse. One also has to

> consider

> > UL in navamsa. One also has to see the sign - whether its

> > malefic/benefic, the aspects of UL.

> > However all my UL's in raasi chart seem to have some problem or

> the

> > other, does that mean I'll not have a successful marriage?

> >

> > There are so many things to consider and I can never be sure

which

> of

> > the UL's would turn out to me my actual marriage UL.

> > How can I be sure that a strong one sided infatuation or an

affair

> > qualifies and uses up a UL, due to which one would have to see

the

> 8th

> > from UL, and consider that one as the effective UL?

> >

> > My birth details after time rectification are

> >

> > 25th June 1977, 11:37 AM, Calcutta.

> >

> > I would appreciate if some guruji helps me in this regard and

> analyse

> > my chart in depth with respect to marriage.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Anant.

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your response. I have actually tried this on many couples and from

that only I deducted that even small affairs do contribute to UL, if they are

from the heart.

So a long but affectionless marriage shouldn't count?

In my case, I noticed the same thing - small affairs did count as a UL, as at

that time, I was mentally fully into the relationship and only adverse

situations stopped me from marrying. Therefore they did count as a UL. My 1st,

2nd and 3rd UL's are already over, and I have matched with with the girl's

patri's with whom I have had infatuation/affair/roka.

You certainly seem lucky. What's roka?

And the surprising thing is that the infatuation lasted 5 yrs, the 1st affair

less than an year and the roka just 4-5months. But they all were

registered.Therefore my coming marriage should be seen from my 4th UL. Could

you shed some light on how the prospects of my 4th UL are? I don't think AL in

the 12th from UL is a favourable position. Of course, many other things like

rotation of 7th house in navamsa, 2nd from 4th effective UL, 7th from 4th

effective UL and 8th from effective UL should also be studied, aldo rasi and

grah dristi's, argala's, and lord of 4th effective UL, too. But unfortunately

my general knowledge of jyotish is restricted only to UL. Could you please help

me with this.

I suggest you pick up Liz Taylor's or Hugh Grant's charts. Each have had at

least two dozen UL changes, conservatively.

Interesting post, Anant.

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