2-anant: Upalagna in 12 th of AL causes abandoning by spouse?

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Hi Anant,

 

Thanks for the information. By the way, Im not too much

bothered about these things, but I just wanted to clear my doubts

regarding UL. Why I am using my chart is, it is the only one very

much familiar to me.So it can form a very good Scenario for my

doubts. Being not a systamatic learner, I can learn astrology only

by clearing doubts wrt my, or my parents or my brother's horoscopes.

One doubt may lead to so many doubts which in turn may branch to many

others,so I can get answers to all those thereby widening my

knowledge. I hope other members of the group similar to me also can

benefit from it.

No comments about your statement '> commen-sense tells me that it

would be foolish to assume that someone who is 29+ has never had an

infatuation/affair.' Because I was person who used to wonder 'wont

people feel a prick of concience after marriage if they have such

affairs'. This view varies from people to people. For me it was that.

I have many friends who thinks similar to me.Unless one can stand in

other's shoes and see their view point it is ofcourse, dificult to

believe. So let us leave it. You can follow what your common sense

says.(After all one has the freedom to think anything about others.

So, I m not going to make it an issue:-)) The only 'other' feeling I

had was love+admiration+ respect which I used to have for people

(mainly included my lecturers)who were intelligent, talented,

scholars,smart and efficient. These I said not to convince

anybody,but just as a matter of fact.

 

And about google search, I dont fear anything unless I do anything

wrong.

(I didnt mean to narrate any personal experience in that mail, but

since you said UL can denote affair/infatuation just to tell you that

your derivation can be correct, I thought it'll be good to make a

note of it. Plz dont bother about it.)

I appreciate your consideration and foresight. Thank you.

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Anant Gilra"

<anti_gilra> wrote:

> Hello Ms Lakshmi,

>

> Well, actually this one wouldn't qualify for a UL, I guess, as it

has

> to be an strong infatuation/affair from your side and not someone

> else's. Also where you think of giving you consider UL, when you

> think of taking, you consider A7. When you have more than one

affair

> simultaneously, you consider UL to be 6th from UL, instead of 8th

> from it. The 2nd and 7th from UL show breakage in marriage, 8th

shows

> the longetivity of marriage, lord of UL tells about the family of

the

> spouse. The 7th house in navamsa tells about the physical

> charactristics of spouse. One also has to consider UL in navamsa.

One

> also has to see the sign - whether its malefic/benefic, the aspects

> of UL.

> After reading all this, I came to the conclusion that either stop

> thinking about this, as its too complicated or consult some guru

> who's really well-versed with this concept.

> But if I were you, I at least won't worry about the 1st UL, because

> commen-sense tells me that it would be foolish to assume that

someone

> who is 29+ has never had an infatuation/affair.

> By the way, I wonder if you know that these posts are visible if

you

> do a google search. So you might think twice before narrating your

> personal life experiences.

>

> Thanks,

> Anant.

>

> vedic astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b"

> <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> > Hi Anant,

> >

> > That is a good news. I didnt think about that. In fact one

of

> my

> > class mate had proposed to me when I was studying for Degree-PG

> > period and I had rejected. May be that can account for

the 'native

> > abandoning spouse'. It was not an infatuation on his part as he

was

> > an intellectual, university rank holder both in degree and PG

(not

> a

> > person falling in infatuations). But for me, I found it was his

> > infatuation and immaturity that made him propose at such an early

> > age. I was at that time immersed in reading philosophical books

so

> I

> > used to feel all this infatuations/affair just as an 'illusion'

and

> > silly, trivial matters (which ofcourse made me to reject). Hope

the

> > ill effect of UL in 12th has gone in that way.

> > Now let me start thinkinng about the 8th from UL. Right? :-))

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jyothi.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Anant Gilra"

> > <anti_gilra> wrote:

> > > Hello Ms Jyothi,

> > >

> > > My knowledge of Jyotish is very little but I would like to

share

> > > which you something which you might have missed.

> > > Before looking at predictions from the UL, one should first

make

> > sure

> > > if one is seeing the correct UL. Any serious affair or serious

> > > infatuation prior to marriage would result in all predictions

> about

> > > marriage from your first UL to go wrong. As the predictions on

> the

> > UL

> > > would stand for that first affair/infatuation/marriage you have

> > had.

> > > For the second affair/marriage, you'll have to rotate the UL by

> 8,

> > > for the third by another 8 and so on.

> > > So please make sure you have had no strong infatuations/affairs

> > > before you start looking at your UL.

> > > As I said, I know nothing about jyotish, so I would like some

> guru

> > > to second what I said.

> > > Another interesting fact - I saw the patri's of 6 couples and

> only

> > > one couple 1st UL in both cases matched.

> > > By matching I mean UL is trine or 7th to lagna of spouse or

UL's

> > lord

> > > is in the same rashi as lagna of spouse.

> > > For all the rest, it didn't match. Does that mean, jyotish is

> > wrong/

> > > or they are not married :-). Well no, the other couples have

had

> > > major infatuations/ affairs before marriage. Their 2nd/3rd/4th

> UL's

> > > were matching with the spouse's lagna. Incidently I knew the

past

> > > life of a few, and verified that they had indeed has an equal

> > number

> > > of affairs as their marriage-effective UL -1.

> > >

> > > Can one of the guru's second what I mentioned?

> > >

> > > Also, what can we interpret if AL is 12th from UL, i.e.

opposite

> of

> > > what was discussed?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Anant.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b"

> > > <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> > > > Respected Sir,

> > > >

> > > > I would like to do as you told. But I donno my

> > Devata

> > > of

> > > > 2nd lord from UpaLagna. I think it is Vishnu (pls confirm)as

we

> > > were

> > > > finally told to do a 'Krishnanattom vazipadu' at Guruvayoor,

> the

> > > most

> > > > famous Sri Krishna temple in Kerala. About faith, I have 100%

> > > belief

> > > > in God. That is all I know and I believe if one surrender

> oneself

> > > > totally to God, He will take care of that person. And I have

> > > mentally

> > > > surrendered myself to GOd. About remedies, we were told to do

> > > > different remedies by different astrologers, some of which I

> told

> > > my

> > > > father not to do. That was not because I did not have faith,

> but

> > I

> > > > some how felt not to trouble my parents too much. If I had

> faith

> > to

> > > > face anything that will give courage to my parents too.

> Besides,

> > > > after doing so many poojas, I have begun to feel 'Let God

give

> me

> > > > marriage whenever God wishes.' I am ready to wait until that.

> And

> > > if

> > > > God wishes me to remain single, I dont mind that too!!

> > > >

> > > > I am giving my birth details here.

> > > > If possible I would like to know the Sani-Chandra yoga will

> cause

> > > any

> > > > bad effects on my married life.( I find so many yogas in my

> chart

> > > > which are not conducive to happy married life!!)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Star: Aayilyam

> > > > > Birth Time :11.41.p.m

> > > > > Sishta dasa: budha -4-1-9

> > > > > Date of birth :1-10-1975 (Oct 1st 1975)

> > > > Place: Kozhikode (Kerala)

> > > > latitude: 11-16N

> > > > longitude-75-48E

> > > > > Rasi chart:

> > > > >

> > > > > Gemini: Lagna & Mars

> > > > > Cancer: Saturn & Moon

> > > > > Leo: Venus & Gulika

> > > > > Virgo: Mercury (retrograde) & Sun

> > > > > Scorpio: Rahu

> > > > > Pieces: Jupiter (retrograde)

> > > > > Taurus: Ketu

> > > > >

> > > > > Navamsa:

> > > > > Lagna: Sagittarius

> > > > > Capricorn: Ketu

> > > > > Pieces: Jupiter& Moon

> > > > > Taurus: Venus& Sun

> > > > > Cancer:Rahu

> > > > > Virgo: Mercury & Saturn

> > > > > Libra: Mars & gulika

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan

> > > > Radhakrishnan" <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:

> > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Jyothi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please don't get confused.If you believe in

> > > astrology,believe

> > > > in

> > > > > Vedic Remedies also.Do fast on the day of your UL from

> sunrise

> > to

> > > > > sunset.Break your fast after sunset just by Worshipping the

> > Male

> > > > > Devata denoted by Second house from UL.If you light a lamp

> > before

> > > > > that devata and do some naivaidhya, then its too good.This

> > simple

> > > > > remedy will remove all the dosha's related to you married

> > > life.Have

> > > > > your faith on this and follow it.Faith can move

mountains.You

> > > will

> > > > > get very good caring houband soon.

> > > > >

> > > > > Whenever you need any suggesion please post your

> birthdata

> > > also.

> > > > >

> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > krithi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b"

> > > > > <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your valubale information. In

> fact,

> > > the

> > > > > case

> > > > > > is mine only. I am still unmarried.So whenever I read

about

> > > > > > this 'abandoning', I used to ponder what may be the

reason

> > for

> > > > > > abandoning 'should I really marry or not'etc.. Because

all

> > the

> > > > > > astrologers who had checked my horoscope had told that my

> > > partner

> > > > > > will be extremely gentle, 'sal purush' ,a 'jitendriya'

and

> a

> > > > person

> > > > > > who will support me for my spiritual growth. So what

> confuses

> > > me

> > > > is

> > > > > > that how can such a person think of abandoning his wife.

> One

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > Naadi jyotishi(who checks using our thumb) also said the

> > same.

> > > So

> > > > > my

> > > > > > parents were (me too) disturbed on hearing this and we

did

> > all

> > > > the

> > > > > > propietiary poojas for removing the obstacles in my

> marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way do you mean sir, the native having UL in 12th

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > > stubborn? Or the partner of the native? I may be

stubborn,

> > but

> > > if

> > > > > > my 'would be' partner is caring and loving, I am ready to

> > > > > compromise

> > > > > > even to 100%!!

> > > > > > For my satisfaction, can you tell me the result of the

> UL

> > > lord

> > > > > > (sun) along with AL lord(mercury) in Virgo? (Venus is in

> UL,

> > > leo)

> > > > I

> > > > > > very much wish to have a compatiblilty. Does this

> > combination

> > > > > shows

> > > > > > that?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Jyothi.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> > > > > > <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Namaste Jyothi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Firstly, it is important to understand what UL really

> > means!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is the manifestation of the 12th house, which stands

> for

> > > > > various

> > > > > > > matters like, losses, compromises, bed pleasure. So UL

> > shows

> > > > how

> > > > > > these

> > > > > > > matters manifests and when it manifests. Parasara

defined

> > UL

> > > as

> > > > > > > manifestation of, that which follows the lagna, i.e

> 12H ...

> > > > hence

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > said spouse can be determined from UL. Marriage is all

> > about

> > > > > > > compromises, which both parties make to adjust to each

> > others

> > > > > likes

> > > > > > > and dislikes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With this in perspective, if UL is in 12th from AL,

means

> > the

> > > > > > person

> > > > > > > doesnt like to compromise and hence can be very

stubborn,

> > > > > difficult

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > deal with, and ofcourse tends to ignore their spouse.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It doesnt mean that they will abandon their spouse!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > > > Narayan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b"

> > > > > > > <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Respected Sirs,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I read in an article that if in Rasi

> > chart,

> > > if

> > > > > UL

> > > > > > > falls

> > > > > > > > in 12th of Arudha Lagna, the native will be abandoned

> by

> > > > > spouse.

> > > > > > Is

> > > > > > > > there any method to find out the reason for

> abandoning ?

> > By

> > > > > > checking

> > > > > > > > the planets in UL, Al or anything like that?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > jyothi