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Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my responses

below:naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa > wrote:

Namaste Devika Ji,Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given

by you: I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which

means a change of time around 10:15. Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM

to 10:15 AM, I am still getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which

software are you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with

the details you plugged in into the chart:

February 20, 1983 Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per

Naarayana calculation) Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 36 E

50' 00", 1 S 17' 00" Nairobi, Kenya

-> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus and

Moon/Sat. -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with

passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL in rasi chart

will give her magnetism and charm. -> Mars gives the dynamism and

aggressiveness, and Venus provides short-tempered nature. -> Mercury

indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a talented painter, and

one who is more than involved in just imitating others works or

carricature of people. She will be innovative.

Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or doing carricature

of people. But she does have tendency of making fun of people.

-> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and such a

person is usually born in a very rich family, or who eventually becomes

rich. D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it the

relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with:Devika: The

relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother is still very jealous of

her and both gets into arguments a lot. Although, I have also seen them teaming

up to achieve certain goals. -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer,

which is aspected by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate

father, who must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The

Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign

influence. He could be involved in some kind of business associated with

hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in 8H), having

connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9 together in 11h shows good

relations, with its lord influencing the lagna.Devika: Naaraayana, very

brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the father is involved in the hardware

business. The father also has friends in high places, for example, friendship

with the Attorney general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he

himself in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community),

friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships with cotton

mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much influential to his daughter

and adores her. ->

Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either Rahu or Saturn.

She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is

in Cancer(Mind) aspected by Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology.

Mars/Venus in 7th from A9, indicating the time frame when she must have

started this study around ... 2001.Devika: Yes to be exact, she started

studying in 2001. -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is

afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little education.

Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows good looking Mother. Aspect

of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although

inimical to

Venus (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is forced

to be nice to the native.

Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her.

The placement of planets, indicates to me, that the relationship is not as

bad as you have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good,

as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes! Unusual thing about Mother

.... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th (from Sagittarius) could make her

Religious(Piligrimages) ... she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu

in 4th not good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some

kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be involved in

occult :).Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in

occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so unusual about

her mother" is a very difficult one. I

hesitated to ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because

my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that is to

think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity or anything

related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing wrong with her mother.

-> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem with

them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for any kind of

harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L from Saturn(Elder) falls in

Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to Mars the Lagna lord!!Devika: Will

comment on this later, since this was one of the question.Please let us

know.Warm RegardsNarayan -> This was difficult. On the face of it the

relationship

seems to be fine. H vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

<devikadhillon> wrote:> Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> I have not revealed my

answers yet. I have just given more info about her mother and that's all. All

the questions that I have asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze.

I will wait for 2 or 3 weeks.> > Thanks,> Devika> > naaraayana_iyer

<jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> Namaste Devika JI,> > I wanted to take a crack

at it :), but had no time!> Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not

attempt it.> > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will

write > to you privately.> > Thanks> Warm Regards> Narayan> > > --- In

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> <devikadhillon> wrote:> > Dear Sanjay,> > Looks like you are the only

one interested in this puzzle. See > my 2 comments below:> > > > > > Sanjay

Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > >

Namaste Devika,> > Let me attempt,> > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year

old female. She is a student in > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in

the 12 house.> > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research

ability. > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 >

trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research > into minds

and Sun is natural Vaidya.> > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical

research? Is she going > to dive

into philosophy?> > > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > A naturally

born painter> > > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is

Mars > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus. > Water

signs and Venus give painting abilities.> > > > > A very sharp and good

looking> > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second

house> (for Face).> > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > >

> SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or proud. > Here it's

the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky.> > > > > Brought up in an ultra

rich family> > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha

> Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich.

Here > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.> > > > > > > Unconditionally adored

by her father > > > > > > > > Some negative points:> > > Extremely rude to her

siblings> > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings.> >

> > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's beloved > >

child> > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4.> > > > > >

> > Questions:> > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or

both?> > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate a >

younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder > brother too.

> > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so much >

fond > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > SanjayP: Actually there may

be time where her relation with both > parents may improve since,> > Mars Lagna

lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12,> > Chance with mother to improve is

also high as Lagna is in Ganesha > division in D12.> > Due to Exalted Sun being

in Lagna in D12 division diety of Yama, > Favour from father is High. But that's

mostly due to her following > strict rules in home in seems.> > > > > > > 3.

What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is

exalted with Jupiter, A4 is with > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between

malefics. Sat and Mars. But > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I

would say whatever > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as

to how > to decipher

the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her > mother maybe in same

profession?. or some high position?.> > Devika: Let me give you some more

details about her mother so that > you can study further. Her mother has never

worked in her life and > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good

looking in her > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer,

but > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The question >

still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"> > > > > > > > Warm

Regards> > Sanjay P> > > > > > BFemale> > > > Natal Chart> > > >

February 20, 1983> > Time: 10:10:00> > Time Zone:

3:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> >

Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo:

Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna> > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left)>

> Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left)> >

Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)> > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36%

left)> > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)> > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min

sign: Pi)> > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)>

> > > Sunrise: 6:45:33> > Sunset: 18:47:30> > Janma Ghatis:

8.5191> > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15> > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57> > > > > >

> > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:Namaste >

Devika,> > > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone gets

> > their mails to the Inboxes!> > > > Thanks> > Narayan> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon>

wrote:> > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a student in >

> Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > Some

positive points

about her:> > > A naturally born painter> > > A very sharp and good looking> > >

I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > Brought up in an ultra rich

family> > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > Some negative

points:> > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > Her mother is jealous of her

because she is her father's beloved > > child> > > > > > Questions:> > > 1.

How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > 2. From the

chart how can you tell that her father is so much > fond > > of her and her

mother envies her. > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > >

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Namaste Devika Ji,

 

Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions:

 

1. What I meant ... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or

so ... just so that the Navamsa Lagna becomes Taurus.

 

2. About the physical characteristics of Mother .... unusual

stuff ... if you mean ... things like ... being blonde or having

blue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ... it is difficult to

predict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from Sagittarius may

give her ... an uncoventional eye color :)!!!

 

 

Warm Regards

Narayan

 

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

<devikadhillon> wrote:

> Namaste Naaraayana Ji,

> Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my

responses below:

>

> naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

>

> Namaste Devika Ji,

>

>

> Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by

you:

>

> I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which

> means a change of time around 10:15.

> Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still

getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which software are

you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with the

details you plugged in into the chart:

>

> February 20, 1983

> Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation)

> Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"

> Nairobi, Kenya

>

>

> -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus

and

> Moon/Sat.

> -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with

> passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL

> in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm.

> -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus

provides

> short-tempered nature.

> -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a

> talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just

> imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be

> innovative.

>

> Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or

doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making

fun of people.

>

>

> -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and

> such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or

> who eventually becomes rich.

>

> D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it

the

> relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with:

> Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother

is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot.

Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals.

> -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is

aspected

> by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father,

who

> must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The

> Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign

influence.

> He could be involved in some kind of business associated with

> hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in

> 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9

> together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord

influencing

> the lagna.

> Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the

father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has

friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney

general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself

in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community),

friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships

with cotton mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much

influential to his daughter and adores her.

> -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either

> Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa

> Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by

> Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from

> A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this

> study around ... 2001.

> Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001.

>

> -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is

> afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little

> education. Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows

> good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives

> good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although inimical to Venus

> (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is

> forced to be nice to the native.

>

> Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her.

>

> The placement of planets,

> indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you

> have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good,

> as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes!

>

> Unusual thing about Mother ... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th

> (from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ...

> she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not

> good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some

> kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be

> involved in occult :).

> Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in

occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so

unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to

ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because

my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that

is to think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity

or anything related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing

wrong with her mother.

> -> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem

> with them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for

> any kind of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L

from

> Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to

> Mars the Lagna lord!!

> Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the

question.

> Please let us know.

>

> Warm Regards

> Narayan

>

>

> -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems

> to be fine. H

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,

> > I have not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more

> info about her mother and that's all. All the questions that I

have

> asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait

> for 2 or 3 weeks.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Devika

> >

> > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

> > Namaste Devika JI,

> >

> > I wanted to take a crack at it :), but had no time!

> > Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not attempt it.

> >

> > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will

> write

> > to you privately.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Warm Regards

> > Narayan

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > Dear Sanjay,

> > > Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle.

> See

> > my 2 comments below:

> > >

> > >

> > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > >

> > > Namaste Devika,

> > > Let me attempt,

> > >

> > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a

student

> in

> > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.

> > >

> > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research

ability.

> > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9

> > trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research

> > into minds and Sun is natural Vaidya.

> > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is she

> going

> > to dive into philosophy?

> > >

> > >

> > > > Some positive points about her:

> > > > A naturally born painter

> > >

> > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars

> > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus.

> > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities.

> > >

> > > > A very sharp and good looking

> > >

> > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second

house

> > (for Face).

> > >

> > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her

> > >

> > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or

> proud.

> > Here it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky.

> > >

> > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family

> > >

> > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha

> > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich.

> Here

> > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Unconditionally adored by her father

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Some negative points:

> > > > Extremely rude to her siblings

> > >

> > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings.

> > >

> > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's

> beloved

> > > child

> > >

> > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Questions:

> > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?

> > >

> > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate

a

> > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder

> > brother too.

> > >

> > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so

much

> > fond

> > > of her and her mother envies her.

> > >

> > > SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with

both

> > parents may improve since,

> > > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12,

> > > Chance with mother to improve is also high as Lagna is in

> Ganesha

> > division in D12.

> > > Due to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of

Yama,

> > Favour from father is High. But that's mostly due to her

following

> > strict rules in home in seems.

> > >

> > >

> > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother.

> > >

> > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is

> with

> > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars.

> But

> > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say

> whatever

> > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to

how

> > to decipher the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her

> > mother maybe in same profession?. or some high position?.

> > > Devika: Let me give you some more details about her mother so

> that

> > you can study further. Her mother has never worked in her life

and

> > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good looking in

> her

> > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer, but

> > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The

> question

> > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Sanjay P

> > >

> > >

> > > BFemale

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > February 20, 1983

> > > Time: 10:10:00

> > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"

> > > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA

> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > >

> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna

> > > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left)

> > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left)

> > > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)

> > > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36% left)

> > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)

> > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi)

> > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)

> > >

> > > Sunrise: 6:45:33

> > > Sunset: 18:47:30

> > > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191

> > >

> > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15

> > > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...>

wrote:Namaste

> > Devika,

> > >

> > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone

gets

> > > their mails to the Inboxes!

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Narayan

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> > > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a

student

> in

> > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.

> > > >

> > > > Some positive points about her:

> > > > A naturally born painter

> > > > A very sharp and good looking

> > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her

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My responses below.naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa > wrote:

Namaste Devika Ji,Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions:1. What

I meant ... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or so ... just so that the

Navamsa Lagna becomes Taurus. Devika: That works.2. About the physical

characteristics of Mother .... unusual stuff ... if you mean ... things like

.... being blonde or havingblue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ... it

is difficult topredict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from Sagittarius

may give her ... an uncoventional eye color :)!!!Devika: Her eyes are not

unconventional. I know this is difficult, but I will wait to reveal the answer,

if in case someone is interested to solve.Warm RegardsNarayan--- In

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon>

wrote:> Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please

look for my responses below:> > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:>

> Namaste Devika Ji,> > > Here's what I could gather, based on the

facts(details) given by you:> > I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has

to be Taurus, which > means a change of time around 10:15. > Devika: If I

change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still getting Aries as Navamsa

lagna and not Taurus. Which software are you using? Here are the birth details

again, please verify with the details you plugged in into the chart:> >

February 20, 1983> Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana

calculation)> Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 36 E 50'

00", 1 S 17' 00"> Nairobi, Kenya> > > -> Taurus Navamsa

Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus and> Moon/Sat.> ->

Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with> passion and

appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL> in rasi chart will give

her magnetism and charm.> -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and

Venus provides> short-tempered nature.> -> Mercury indicates a

painter. Aspect of

Venus makes her a > talented painter, and one who is more than involved in

just> imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be>

innovative.> > Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or

doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making fun of

people.> > > -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence,

and> such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or> who

eventually becomes rich.> > D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the

face of it the > relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up

with:> Devika: The relationship with mother

is not that bad, but mother is still very jealous of her and both gets into

arguments a lot. Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain

goals.> -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is aspected>

by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father, who> must be

very hard working and conservative(traditional). The> Lord exalted in Lagna

shows his affection and benign influence.> He could be involved in some

kind of business associated with> hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or

Insurance (Saturn in > 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL

& A9 > together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord

influencing> the lagna.> Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here.

To be exact, the father is involved in the hardware business. The father also

has friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney general

of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself in not in

politics. Although he has been a leader in his community), friendships with

many of the richest people in England, friendships with cotton mill owners in

India, etc. The dad is also very much influential to his daughter and adores

her.> -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either>

Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa> Lagna, in

D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by> Nodes from Aquarius

showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th

from> A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this>

study around ... 2001.> Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001.>

> -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is > afflicted

by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little> education. Aspect of a

strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows> good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu

confirms it (Ketu gives> good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although

inimical to Venus> (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that

mother is> forced to be nice to the native. > > Devika: The mother is

forced by the father to be nice to her.> > The placement

of planets,> indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you>

have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good,> as this

shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes!> > Unusual thing about Mother

.... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th> (from Sagittarius) could make her

Religious(Piligrimages) ...> she could be enterpreneuring in nature ...

ketu in 4th not> good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and

some> kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be>

involved in occult :).> Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not

involved in occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is

so unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to ask the

question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because my question is so

difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that is to think about something

physically (not like athletic abiltity or anything related to that). And at the

same time, there is nothing wrong with her mother. > -> Among the siblings,

she could be having elder(s) and problem > with them. 11H in D3 has

Sun/Saturn combination, not good for> any kind of harmonius relationship

and Graha Arudha of 11L from> Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in

it, opposed to> Mars the Lagna lord!!> Devika: Will comment on this later,

since this was one of the question.> Please let us know.> > Warm Regards>

Narayan> > > -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems>

to be fine. H> > > > vedic astrology, Devika

Dhillon > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> > I have

not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more > info about her mother and

that's all. All the questions that I have > asked still stands. Please take your

time to analyze. I will wait > for 2 or 3 weeks.> > > > Thanks,> > Devika> > >

> naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > Namaste Devika JI,> > > > I

wanted to take a crack at it :), but had no time!> > Now, that you have

revealed some info, I will not attempt it.> > > > But, I am

interested in case for research purposes, and I will > write > > to you

privately.> > > > Thanks> > Warm Regards> > Narayan> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon>

wrote:> > > Dear Sanjay,> > > Looks like you are the only one interested in

this puzzle. > See > > my 2 comments below:> > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > >

Namaste Devika,> > > Let me attempt,> > > > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22

year old female. She is a student > in > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and

Mars in the 12 house.> > >

> > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research ability. > > Also

in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 > > trines she has

Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research > > into minds and Sun is

natural Vaidya.> > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is

she > going > > to dive into philosophy?> > > > > > > > > > Some positive

points about her:> > > > A naturally born painter> > > > > > SanjayP: D9 is for

inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars > > debilitated in Water sign and most

importantly conjoined Venus. > > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities.>

> > > > > > A very sharp and good looking> > > > > > SanjayP: Good looks could

be due to Exalted Moon in second house> >

(for Face).> > > > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > > >

> SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or > proud. > > Here

it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky.> > > > > > > Brought up in an

ultra rich family> > > > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche

va Neecha > > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich. >

Here > > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.> > > > > > > > > >

Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > > Some negative

points:> > > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd

can give bad relation with siblings.> > > > > > > Her mother

is jealous of her because she is her father's > beloved > > > child> > > > > >

SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4.> > > > > > > > > > >

Questions:> > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or

both?> > > > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate

a > > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder > >

brother too. > > > > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father

is so much > > fond > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > >

SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with both > > parents

may improve since,> > > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12,>

> > Chance with mother

to improve is also high as Lagna is in > Ganesha > > division in D12.> > > Due

to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of Yama, > > Favour from

father is High. But that's mostly due to her following > > strict rules in home

in seems.> > > > > > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > >

SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is > with > > Ketu in

Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars. > But > > due to A4

lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say > whatever > > is unusual

should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to how > > to decipher the A4

between malefics. It may be possible that her > > mother maybe in same

profession?. or some high position?.> > > Devika: Let me give you some more

details about her mother so > that > > you can study further. Her mother has

never worked in her life and > > barely passed high school. Her mother used to

be good looking in > her > > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known

producer, but > > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The >

question > > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"> > > > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regards> > > Sanjay P> > > > > > > > > BFemale> > > > > > Natal

Chart> > > > > > February 20, 1983> > > Time: 10:10:00>

> > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> > >

Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> > > Nairobi,

Massachusetts, USA> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo:

Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna> > > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18%

left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66%

left)> > > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)> > > Karana: Vishti

(Sa) (90.36% left)> > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)> > > Mahakala

Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi)> > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter

(Mahakala: Jupiter)> > > > > > Sunrise: 6:45:33> > > Sunset:

18:47:30> > > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191> > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15> > >

Sidereal Time: 19:35:57> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05,

naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:Namaste > > Devika,> > > > > >

Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone gets > > > their

mails to the Inboxes!> > > > > > Thanks> > > Narayan> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon>

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Namaskaar Sri Devika

 

I never participate in puzzles, however I am intrigued by the your

question - as what is unusual about the mother of the native. It is

indeed difficult question as something may be unusual for one person

but not for another.

 

I happen to check the chart as per corrected time by Sri Naarayana.

There seems to be something unusual about her chest. The 2nd

possibility is that her feet have something unusual about them.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

<devikadhillon> wrote:

> Namaste Narayana Ji,

> My responses below.

>

> naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

> Namaste Devika Ji,

>

> Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions:

>

> 1. What I meant ... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or

> so ... just so that the Navamsa Lagna becomes Taurus.

> Devika: That works.

> 2. About the physical characteristics of Mother .... unusual

> stuff ... if you mean ... things like ... being blonde or having

> blue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ... it is difficult to

> predict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from Sagittarius may

> give her ... an uncoventional eye color :)!!!

> Devika: Her eyes are not unconventional. I know this is difficult,

but I will wait to reveal the answer, if in case someone is interested

to solve.

>

> Warm Regards

> Narayan

>

> vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,

> > Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my

> responses below:

> >

> > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Devika Ji,

> >

> >

> > Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by

> you:

> >

> > I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which

> > means a change of time around 10:15.

> > Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still

> getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which software are

> you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with the

> details you plugged in into the chart:

> >

> > February 20, 1983

> > Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation)

> > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"

> > Nairobi, Kenya

> >

> >

> > -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus

> and

> > Moon/Sat.

> > -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with

> > passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL

> > in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm.

> > -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus

> provides

> > short-tempered nature.

> > -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a

> > talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just

> > imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be

> > innovative.

> >

> > Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or

> doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making

> fun of people.

> >

> >

> > -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and

> > such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or

> > who eventually becomes rich.

> >

> > D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it

> the

> > relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with:

> > Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother

> is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot.

> Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals.

> > -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is

> aspected

> > by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father,

> who

> > must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The

> > Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign

> influence.

> > He could be involved in some kind of business associated with

> > hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in

> > 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9

> > together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord

> influencing

> > the lagna.

> > Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the

> father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has

> friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney

> general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself

> in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community),

> friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships

> with cotton mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much

> influential to his daughter and adores her.

> > -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either

> > Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa

> > Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by

> > Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from

> > A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this

> > study around ... 2001.

> > Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001.

> >

> > -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is

> > afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little

> > education. Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows

> > good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives

> > good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although inimical to Venus

> > (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is

> > forced to be nice to the native.

> >

> > Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her.

> >

> > The placement of planets,

> > indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you

> > have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good,

> > as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes!

> >

> > Unusual thing about Mother ... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th

> > (from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ...

> > she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not

> > good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some

> > kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be

> > involved in occult :).

> > Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in

> occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so

> unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to

> ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because

> my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that

> is to think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity

> or anything related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing

> wrong with her mother.

> > -> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem

> > with them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for

> > any kind of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L

> from

> > Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to

> > Mars the Lagna lord!!

> > Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the

> question.

> > Please let us know.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Narayan

> >

> >

> > -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems

> > to be fine. H

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,

> > > I have not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more

> > info about her mother and that's all. All the questions that I

> have

> > asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait

> > for 2 or 3 weeks.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Devika

> > >

> > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

> > > Namaste Devika JI,

> > >

> > > I wanted to take a crack at it :), but had no time!

> > > Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not attempt it.

> > >

> > > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will

> > write

> > > to you privately.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Narayan

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> > > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > > Dear Sanjay,

> > > > Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle.

> > See

> > > my 2 comments below:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Devika,

> > > > Let me attempt,

> > > >

> > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a

> student

> > in

> > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research

> ability.

> > > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9

> > > trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research

> > > into minds and Sun is natural Vaidya.

> > > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is she

> > going

> > > to dive into philosophy?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Some positive points about her:

> > > > > A naturally born painter

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars

> > > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus.

> > > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities.

> > > >

> > > > > A very sharp and good looking

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second

> house

> > > (for Face).

> > > >

> > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or

> > proud.

> > > Here it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky.

> > > >

> > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha

> > > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich.

> > Here

> > > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Some negative points:

> > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings.

> > > >

> > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's

> > beloved

> > > > child

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Questions:

> > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate

> a

> > > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder

> > > brother too.

> > > >

> > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so

> much

> > > fond

> > > > of her and her mother envies her.

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with

> both

> > > parents may improve since,

> > > > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12,

> > > > Chance with mother to improve is also high as Lagna is in

> > Ganesha

> > > division in D12.

> > > > Due to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of

> Yama,

> > > Favour from father is High. But that's mostly due to her

> following

> > > strict rules in home in seems.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother.

> > > >

> > > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is

> > with

> > > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars.

> > But

> > > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say

> > whatever

> > > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to

> how

> > > to decipher the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her

> > > mother maybe in same profession?. or some high position?.

> > > > Devika: Let me give you some more details about her mother so

> > that

> > > you can study further. Her mother has never worked in her life

> and

> > > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good looking in

> > her

> > > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer, but

> > > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The

> > question

> > > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards

> > > > Sanjay P

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > BFemale

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > February 20, 1983

> > > > Time: 10:10:00

> > > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"

> > > > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA

> > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > >

> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna

> > > > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left)

> > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> > > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left)

> > > > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)

> > > > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36% left)

> > > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)

> > > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi)

> > > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)

> > > >

> > > > Sunrise: 6:45:33

> > > > Sunset: 18:47:30

> > > > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191

> > > >

> > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15

> > > > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...>

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> > > Devika,

> > > >

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> > > > Thanks

> > > > Narayan

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> > > > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a

> student

> > in

> > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some positive points about her:

> > > > > A naturally born painter

> > > > > A very sharp and good looking

> > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her

> > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family

> > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father

> > > > >

> > > > > Some negative points:

> > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings

> > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's

> > beloved

> > > > child

> > > > >

> > > > > Questions:

> > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?

> > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so

> much

> > > fond

> > > > of her and her mother envies her.

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> > > > >

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Thank you for taking time to take a look at this puzzle. It is a very

difficult question and if I give more clues then someone may purely guess

instead of actually looking and studying the chart in detail. There is nothing

physically wrong about the mother. It is very difficult for me to say whether

my question, "What is so unusal about her mother", pertains to a physical

characteristic or not. Let that serve as a clue.

 

Thanks,

Devika

Bharat <hinduastrology > wrote:

Namaskaar Sri DevikaI never participate in puzzles, however I am intrigued by

the yourquestion - as what is unusual about the mother of the native. It

isindeed difficult question as something may be unusual for one personbut not

for another. I happen to check the chart as per corrected time by Sri

Naarayana.There seems to be something unusual about her chest. The

2ndpossibility is that her feet have something unusual about them. Thanks and

RegardsBharatvedic astrology, Devika

Dhillon<devikadhillon> wrote:> Namaste Narayana Ji,> My responses

below.> > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> Namaste Devika Ji,> >

Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions:> > 1. What I meant

.... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or > so ... just so that the Navamsa

Lagna becomes Taurus. > Devika: That works.> 2. About the physical

characteristics of Mother .... unusual > stuff ... if you mean ... things like

.... being blonde or having> blue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ...

it is difficult to> predict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from

Sagittarius may > give her ... an uncoventional eye color :)!!!> Devika: Her

eyes are not unconventional. I know this is difficult,but I will wait to reveal

the answer, if in case someone is interestedto solve.> > Warm Regards> Narayan>

> vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > <devikadhillon>

wrote:> > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> > Thanks for your brilliant analysis.

Please look for my > responses below:> > > >

naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > > > Namaste Devika Ji,> > > > >

> Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by > you:> > > >

I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which > > means a

change of time around 10:15. > > Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to

10:15 AM, I am still > getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which

software are > you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with

the > details you plugged in into the chart:> > > > February 20,

1983> > Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation)> > Time

Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)>

> Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> > Nairobi, Kenya> >

> > > > -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus > and>

> Moon/Sat.> > -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides

her with> > passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL>

> in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm.> > -> Mars gives the

dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus > provides> > short-tempered

nature.> > -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a

> > talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just> >

imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be> >

innovative.> > > > Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works

or > doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making > fun of

people.> > > > > > -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives

opulence, and> > such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or>

> who eventually becomes rich.> > > > D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was

difficult. On the face of it > the > > relationship seems to be fine.

Here' what I

could come up with:> > Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but

mother > is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot. >

Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals.> > ->

Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is > aspected> > by

Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father, > who> > must be

very hard working and conservative(traditional). The> > Lord exalted in

Lagna shows his affection and benign > influence.> > He could be involved

in some kind of business associated with> > hardware/manufacturing (Mars

in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in > > 8H), having connection in politics

(Sun in 10H). AL

& A9 > > together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord > influencing>

> the lagna.> > Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be

exact, the > father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has >

friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney > general of

India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself > in not in politics.

Although he has been a leader in his community), > friendships with many of the

richest people in England, friendships > with cotton mill owners in India, etc.

The dad is also very much > influential to his daughter and adores her.> > ->

Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either> > Rahu or

Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa>

> Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by> > Nodes

from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from> > A9, indicating

the time frame when she must have started this> > study around ... 2001.> >

Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001.> > > > -> Graha Arudha

of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is > > afflicted by 8L Moon,

indicating no education or very little> > education. Aspect of a strong

Mercury on Sagittarius shows> > good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu

confirms it (Ketu gives> > good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although

inimical to Venus> >

(D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is> > forced to be

nice to the native. > > > > Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be

nice to her.> > > > The placement of planets,> > indicates to me, that the

relationship is not as bad as you> > have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H

and this is not good,> > as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes!>

> > > Unusual thing about Mother ... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th> >

(from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ...> > she could

be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not> > good for heart ... must

be besotted with ill-health

and some> > kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be> >

involved in occult :).> > Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is

not involved in > occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is

so > unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to > ask

the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because > my question is

so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that > is to think about

something physically (not like athletic abiltity > or anything related to

that). And at the same time, there is nothing > wrong with her mother. > > ->

Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem > > with them.

11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for> > any kind

of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L > from> > Saturn(Elder)

falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to> > Mars the Lagna lord!!> >

Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the > question.> >

Please let us know.> > > > Warm Regards> > Narayan> > > > > > -> This was

difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems> > to be fine. H> > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > >

<devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> > > I have not

revealed my answers yet. I have just given more > > info about her mother and

that's all. All the questions that I

> have > > asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait > >

for 2 or 3 weeks.> > > > > > Thanks,> > > Devika> > > > > > naaraayana_iyer

<jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > > Namaste Devika JI,> > > > > > I wanted to

take a crack at it :), but had no time!> > > Now, that you have revealed some

info, I will not attempt it.> > > > > > But, I am interested in case for

research purposes, and I will > > write > > > to you privately.> > > > > >

Thanks> > > Warm Regards> > > Narayan> > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon>

wrote:> > > > Dear Sanjay,> > >

> Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle. > > See > > >

my 2 comments below:> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > > >

> Namaste Devika,> > > > Let me attempt,> > > > > > > > > Attached is a chart

of a 22 year old female. She is a > student > > in > > > > Psychology having

Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her

atmakaaraka, giving good research > ability. > > > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord

mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 > > > trines she has Sun and Rahu

conjoined given ability for research > > > into minds

and Sun is natural Vaidya.> > > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical

research? Is she > > going > > > to dive into philosophy?> > > > > > > > > > >

> > Some positive points about her:> > > > > A naturally born painter> > > > >

> > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars > > >

debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus. > > > Water

signs and Venus give painting abilities.> > > > > > > > > A very sharp and good

looking> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in

second > house> > > (for Face).> > > > > > > > > I have never seen anyone more

luckier than her> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives

a person who may seem arrogant or > > proud. > > > Here it's the 5th lord on AL

so it seems she is lucky.> > > > > > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family>

> > > > > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha > >

> Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich. > > Here > >

> we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.> > > > > > > > > > > > >

Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some negative

points:> > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Gulika

in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings.> > > > > > > > > Her mother is

jealous of her because she is her father's > >

beloved > > > > child> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between

AL and A4.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions:> > > > > 1. How many siblings

does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > > > > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in

D3 is with exalted moon could indicate > a > > > younger brother and 11th lord

rahu exalted can indicate an elder > > > brother too. > > > > > > > > > 2. From

the chart how can you tell that her father is so > much > > > fond > > > > of

her and her mother envies her. > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Actually there may be

time where her relation with > both > > > parents may improve since,> > > >

Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini

Kumara division in D12,> > > > Chance with mother to improve is also high as

Lagna is in > > Ganesha > > > division in D12.> > > > Due to Exalted Sun being

in Lagna in D12 division diety of > Yama, > > > Favour from father is High. But

that's mostly due to her > following > > > strict rules in home in seems.> > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > > >

SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is > > with > > >

Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars. > > But > > >

due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say > > whatever > > >

is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to > how > > > to

decipher the A4 between

malefics. It may be possible that her > > > mother maybe in same profession?.

or some high position?.> > > > Devika: Let me give you some more details about

her mother so > > that > > > you can study further. Her mother has never worked

in her life > and > > > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good

looking in > > her > > > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known

producer, but > > > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The

> > question > > > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards> > > > Sanjay P> > > > > > > > > > > >

BFemale> > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > >

> > February 20, 1983> > > > Time: 10:10:00> > > > Time

Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17'

00"> > > > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA> > > > Altitude:

0.00 meters> > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna> > > >

Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday

(Su)> > > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left)> > > >

Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)> > > > Karana: Vishti (Sa)

(90.36% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)> > > > Mahakala Hora:

Moon (5 min sign: Pi)> > > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)> > > > >

> > > Sunrise: 6:45:33> > > > Sunset: 18:47:30> > > > Janma Ghatis:

8.5191> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15> > > > Sidereal Time:

19:35:57> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer

<jaimini.upadesa@g...> > wrote:Namaste > >

> Devika,> > > > > > > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not

everyone > gets > > > > their mails to the Inboxes!> > > > > > > > Thanks> > >

> Narayan> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon

> > > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year

old female. She is a > student > > in > > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and

Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > >

> A naturally born painter> > > > > A very sharp and good looking> > > > > I

have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > > > Brought up in an ultra

rich family> > > >

> Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > Some negative

points:> > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > > Her mother is jealous

of her because she is her father's > > beloved > > > > child> > > > > > > > >

> Questions:> > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or

both?> > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so > much

> > > fond > > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > 3. What is so

unusual about her mother. > > > > > > > > > > Devika> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > || Om

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