Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my responses below:naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa > wrote: Namaste Devika Ji,Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by you: I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which means a change of time around 10:15. Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which software are you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with the details you plugged in into the chart: February 20, 1983 Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation) Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00" Nairobi, Kenya -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus and Moon/Sat. -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm. -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus provides short-tempered nature. -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be innovative. Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making fun of people. -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or who eventually becomes rich. D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with:Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot. Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals. -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is aspected by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father, who must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign influence. He could be involved in some kind of business associated with hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9 together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord influencing the lagna.Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community), friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships with cotton mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much influential to his daughter and adores her. -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this study around ... 2001.Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001. -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little education. Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although inimical to Venus (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is forced to be nice to the native. Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her. The placement of planets, indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good, as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes! Unusual thing about Mother .... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th (from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ... she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be involved in occult .Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that is to think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity or anything related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing wrong with her mother. -> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem with them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for any kind of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L from Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to Mars the Lagna lord!!Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the question.Please let us know.Warm RegardsNarayan -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems to be fine. H vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote:> Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> I have not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more info about her mother and that's all. All the questions that I have asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait for 2 or 3 weeks.> > Thanks,> Devika> > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> Namaste Devika JI,> > I wanted to take a crack at it , but had no time!> Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not attempt it.> > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will write > to you privately.> > Thanks> Warm Regards> Narayan> > > --- In vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > Dear Sanjay,> > Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle. See > my 2 comments below:> > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > Namaste Devika,> > Let me attempt,> > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a student in > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research ability. > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 > trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research > into minds and Sun is natural Vaidya.> > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is she going > to dive into philosophy?> > > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > A naturally born painter> > > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus. > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities.> > > > > A very sharp and good looking> > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second house> (for Face).> > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or proud. > Here it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky.> > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family> > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich. Here > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.> > > > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > Some negative points:> > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings.> > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's beloved > > child> > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4.> > > > > > > > Questions:> > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate a > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder > brother too. > > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so much > fond > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with both > parents may improve since,> > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12,> > Chance with mother to improve is also high as Lagna is in Ganesha > division in D12.> > Due to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of Yama, > Favour from father is High. But that's mostly due to her following > strict rules in home in seems.> > > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is with > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars. But > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say whatever > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to how > to decipher the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her > mother maybe in same profession?. or some high position?.> > Devika: Let me give you some more details about her mother so that > you can study further. Her mother has never worked in her life and > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good looking in her > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer, but > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The question > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"> > > > > > > > Warm Regards> > Sanjay P> > > > > > BFemale> > > > Natal Chart> > > > February 20, 1983> > Time: 10:10:00> > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna> > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left)> > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)> > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36% left)> > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)> > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi)> > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)> > > > Sunrise: 6:45:33> > Sunset: 18:47:30> > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191> > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15> > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57> > > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:Namaste > Devika,> > > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone gets > > their mails to the Inboxes!> > > > Thanks> > Narayan> > > > --- In vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a student in > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > A naturally born painter> > > A very sharp and good looking> > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > Brought up in an ultra rich family> > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > Some negative points:> > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's beloved > > child> > > > > > Questions:> > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so much > fond > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > Devika> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page> > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Namaste Devika Ji, Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions: 1. What I meant ... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or so ... just so that the Navamsa Lagna becomes Taurus. 2. About the physical characteristics of Mother .... unusual stuff ... if you mean ... things like ... being blonde or having blue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ... it is difficult to predict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from Sagittarius may give her ... an uncoventional eye color !!! Warm Regards Narayan vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote: > Namaste Naaraayana Ji, > Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my responses below: > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote: > > Namaste Devika Ji, > > > Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by you: > > I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which > means a change of time around 10:15. > Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which software are you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with the details you plugged in into the chart: > > February 20, 1983 > Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation) > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00" > Nairobi, Kenya > > > -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus and > Moon/Sat. > -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with > passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL > in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm. > -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus provides > short-tempered nature. > -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a > talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just > imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be > innovative. > > Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making fun of people. > > > -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and > such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or > who eventually becomes rich. > > D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it the > relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with: > Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot. Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals. > -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is aspected > by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father, who > must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The > Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign influence. > He could be involved in some kind of business associated with > hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in > 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9 > together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord influencing > the lagna. > Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community), friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships with cotton mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much influential to his daughter and adores her. > -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either > Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa > Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by > Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from > A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this > study around ... 2001. > Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001. > > -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is > afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little > education. Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows > good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives > good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although inimical to Venus > (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is > forced to be nice to the native. > > Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her. > > The placement of planets, > indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you > have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good, > as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes! > > Unusual thing about Mother ... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th > (from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ... > she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not > good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some > kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be > involved in occult . > Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that is to think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity or anything related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing wrong with her mother. > -> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem > with them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for > any kind of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L from > Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to > Mars the Lagna lord!! > Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the question. > Please let us know. > > Warm Regards > Narayan > > > -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems > to be fine. H > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > <devikadhillon> wrote: > > Namaste Naaraayana Ji, > > I have not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more > info about her mother and that's all. All the questions that I have > asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait > for 2 or 3 weeks. > > > > Thanks, > > Devika > > > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote: > > Namaste Devika JI, > > > > I wanted to take a crack at it , but had no time! > > Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not attempt it. > > > > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will > write > > to you privately. > > > > Thanks > > Warm Regards > > Narayan > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote: > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle. > See > > my 2 comments below: > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > Namaste Devika, > > > Let me attempt, > > > > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a student > in > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house. > > > > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research ability. > > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 > > trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research > > into minds and Sun is natural Vaidya. > > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is she > going > > to dive into philosophy? > > > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her: > > > > A naturally born painter > > > > > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars > > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus. > > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities. > > > > > > > A very sharp and good looking > > > > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second house > > (for Face). > > > > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her > > > > > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or > proud. > > Here it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky. > > > > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family > > > > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha > > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich. > Here > > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL. > > > > > > > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > > Some negative points: > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings > > > > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings. > > > > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > beloved > > > child > > > > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4. > > > > > > > > > > > Questions: > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both? > > > > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate a > > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder > > brother too. > > > > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so much > > fond > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > > SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with both > > parents may improve since, > > > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12, > > > Chance with mother to improve is also high as Lagna is in > Ganesha > > division in D12. > > > Due to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of Yama, > > Favour from father is High. But that's mostly due to her following > > strict rules in home in seems. > > > > > > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is > with > > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars. > But > > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say > whatever > > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to how > > to decipher the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her > > mother maybe in same profession?. or some high position?. > > > Devika: Let me give you some more details about her mother so > that > > you can study further. Her mother has never worked in her life and > > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good looking in > her > > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer, but > > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The > question > > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?" > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > BFemale > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > February 20, 1983 > > > Time: 10:10:00 > > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00" > > > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna > > > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left) > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) > > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left) > > > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left) > > > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36% left) > > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg) > > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi) > > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter) > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:45:33 > > > Sunset: 18:47:30 > > > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191 > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15 > > > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:Namaste > > Devika, > > > > > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone gets > > > their mails to the Inboxes! > > > > > > Thanks > > > Narayan > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon> wrote: > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a student > in > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house. > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her: > > > > A naturally born painter > > > > A very sharp and good looking > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > Some negative points: > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > beloved > > > child > > > > > > > > Questions: > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both? > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so much > > fond > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > > > Devika > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 My responses below.naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa > wrote: Namaste Devika Ji,Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions:1. What I meant ... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or so ... just so that the Navamsa Lagna becomes Taurus. Devika: That works.2. About the physical characteristics of Mother .... unusual stuff ... if you mean ... things like .... being blonde or havingblue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ... it is difficult topredict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from Sagittarius may give her ... an uncoventional eye color !!!Devika: Her eyes are not unconventional. I know this is difficult, but I will wait to reveal the answer, if in case someone is interested to solve.Warm RegardsNarayan--- In vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote:> Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my responses below:> > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > Namaste Devika Ji,> > > Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by you:> > I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which > means a change of time around 10:15. > Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which software are you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with the details you plugged in into the chart:> > February 20, 1983> Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation)> Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> Nairobi, Kenya> > > -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus and> Moon/Sat.> -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with> passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL> in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm.> -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus provides> short-tempered nature.> -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a > talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just> imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be> innovative.> > Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making fun of people.> > > -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and> such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or> who eventually becomes rich.> > D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it the > relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with:> Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot. Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals.> -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is aspected> by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father, who> must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The> Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign influence.> He could be involved in some kind of business associated with> hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in > 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9 > together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord influencing> the lagna.> Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community), friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships with cotton mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much influential to his daughter and adores her.> -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either> Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa> Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by> Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from> A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this> study around ... 2001.> Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001.> > -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is > afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little> education. Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows> good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives> good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although inimical to Venus> (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is> forced to be nice to the native. > > Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her.> > The placement of planets,> indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you> have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good,> as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes!> > Unusual thing about Mother .... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th> (from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ...> she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not> good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some> kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be> involved in occult .> Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that is to think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity or anything related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing wrong with her mother. > -> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem > with them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for> any kind of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L from> Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to> Mars the Lagna lord!!> Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the question.> Please let us know.> > Warm Regards> Narayan> > > -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems> to be fine. H> > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> > I have not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more > info about her mother and that's all. All the questions that I have > asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait > for 2 or 3 weeks.> > > > Thanks,> > Devika> > > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > Namaste Devika JI,> > > > I wanted to take a crack at it , but had no time!> > Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not attempt it.> > > > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will > write > > to you privately.> > > > Thanks> > Warm Regards> > Narayan> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Dear Sanjay,> > > Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle. > See > > my 2 comments below:> > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > > Namaste Devika,> > > Let me attempt,> > > > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a student > in > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research ability. > > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 > > trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research > > into minds and Sun is natural Vaidya.> > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is she > going > > to dive into philosophy?> > > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > > A naturally born painter> > > > > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars > > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus. > > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities.> > > > > > > A very sharp and good looking> > > > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second house> > (for Face).> > > > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > > > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or > proud. > > Here it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky.> > > > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family> > > > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha > > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich. > Here > > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.> > > > > > > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > > Some negative points:> > > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings.> > > > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > beloved > > > child> > > > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4.> > > > > > > > > > > Questions:> > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate a > > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder > > brother too. > > > > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so much > > fond > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > > SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with both > > parents may improve since,> > > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12,> > > Chance with mother to improve is also high as Lagna is in > Ganesha > > division in D12.> > > Due to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of Yama, > > Favour from father is High. But that's mostly due to her following > > strict rules in home in seems.> > > > > > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is > with > > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars. > But > > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say > whatever > > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to how > > to decipher the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her > > mother maybe in same profession?. or some high position?.> > > Devika: Let me give you some more details about her mother so > that > > you can study further. Her mother has never worked in her life and > > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good looking in > her > > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer, but > > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The > question > > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"> > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards> > > Sanjay P> > > > > > > > > BFemale> > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > February 20, 1983> > > Time: 10:10:00> > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> > > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna> > > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left)> > > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)> > > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36% left)> > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)> > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi)> > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)> > > > > > Sunrise: 6:45:33> > > Sunset: 18:47:30> > > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191> > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15> > > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:Namaste > > Devika,> > > > > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone gets > > > their mails to the Inboxes!> > > > > > Thanks> > > Narayan> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a student > in > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > > A naturally born painter> > > > A very sharp and good looking> > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family> > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > Some negative points:> > > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > beloved > > > child> > > > > > > > Questions:> > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so much > > fond > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > 3. 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Namaskaar Sri Devika I never participate in puzzles, however I am intrigued by the your question - as what is unusual about the mother of the native. It is indeed difficult question as something may be unusual for one person but not for another. I happen to check the chart as per corrected time by Sri Naarayana. There seems to be something unusual about her chest. The 2nd possibility is that her feet have something unusual about them. Thanks and Regards Bharat vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote: > Namaste Narayana Ji, > My responses below. > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote: > Namaste Devika Ji, > > Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions: > > 1. What I meant ... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or > so ... just so that the Navamsa Lagna becomes Taurus. > Devika: That works. > 2. About the physical characteristics of Mother .... unusual > stuff ... if you mean ... things like ... being blonde or having > blue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ... it is difficult to > predict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from Sagittarius may > give her ... an uncoventional eye color !!! > Devika: Her eyes are not unconventional. I know this is difficult, but I will wait to reveal the answer, if in case someone is interested to solve. > > Warm Regards > Narayan > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > <devikadhillon> wrote: > > Namaste Naaraayana Ji, > > Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my > responses below: > > > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote: > > > > Namaste Devika Ji, > > > > > > Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by > you: > > > > I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which > > means a change of time around 10:15. > > Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still > getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which software are > you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with the > details you plugged in into the chart: > > > > February 20, 1983 > > Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation) > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00" > > Nairobi, Kenya > > > > > > -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus > and > > Moon/Sat. > > -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with > > passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL > > in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm. > > -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus > provides > > short-tempered nature. > > -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a > > talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just > > imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be > > innovative. > > > > Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or > doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making > fun of people. > > > > > > -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and > > such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or > > who eventually becomes rich. > > > > D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it > the > > relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with: > > Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother > is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot. > Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals. > > -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is > aspected > > by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father, > who > > must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The > > Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign > influence. > > He could be involved in some kind of business associated with > > hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in > > 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9 > > together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord > influencing > > the lagna. > > Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the > father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has > friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney > general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself > in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community), > friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships > with cotton mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much > influential to his daughter and adores her. > > -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either > > Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa > > Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by > > Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from > > A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this > > study around ... 2001. > > Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001. > > > > -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is > > afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little > > education. Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows > > good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives > > good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although inimical to Venus > > (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is > > forced to be nice to the native. > > > > Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her. > > > > The placement of planets, > > indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you > > have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good, > > as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes! > > > > Unusual thing about Mother ... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th > > (from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ... > > she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not > > good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some > > kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be > > involved in occult . > > Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in > occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so > unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to > ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because > my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that > is to think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity > or anything related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing > wrong with her mother. > > -> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem > > with them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for > > any kind of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L > from > > Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to > > Mars the Lagna lord!! > > Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the > question. > > Please let us know. > > > > Warm Regards > > Narayan > > > > > > -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems > > to be fine. H > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote: > > > Namaste Naaraayana Ji, > > > I have not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more > > info about her mother and that's all. All the questions that I > have > > asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait > > for 2 or 3 weeks. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Devika > > > > > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote: > > > Namaste Devika JI, > > > > > > I wanted to take a crack at it , but had no time! > > > Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not attempt it. > > > > > > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will > > write > > > to you privately. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Warm Regards > > > Narayan > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon> wrote: > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle. > > See > > > my 2 comments below: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > Namaste Devika, > > > > Let me attempt, > > > > > > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a > student > > in > > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house. > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research > ability. > > > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 > > > trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research > > > into minds and Sun is natural Vaidya. > > > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is she > > going > > > to dive into philosophy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her: > > > > > A naturally born painter > > > > > > > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars > > > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus. > > > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities. > > > > > > > > > A very sharp and good looking > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second > house > > > (for Face). > > > > > > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or > > proud. > > > Here it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky. > > > > > > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family > > > > > > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha > > > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich. > > Here > > > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some negative points: > > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings. > > > > > > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > > beloved > > > > child > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions: > > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both? > > > > > > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate > a > > > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder > > > brother too. > > > > > > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so > much > > > fond > > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with > both > > > parents may improve since, > > > > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12, > > > > Chance with mother to improve is also high as Lagna is in > > Ganesha > > > division in D12. > > > > Due to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of > Yama, > > > Favour from father is High. But that's mostly due to her > following > > > strict rules in home in seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is > > with > > > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars. > > But > > > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say > > whatever > > > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to > how > > > to decipher the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her > > > mother maybe in same profession?. or some high position?. > > > > Devika: Let me give you some more details about her mother so > > that > > > you can study further. Her mother has never worked in her life > and > > > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good looking in > > her > > > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer, but > > > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The > > question > > > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > BFemale > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > February 20, 1983 > > > > Time: 10:10:00 > > > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00" > > > > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna > > > > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left) > > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) > > > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left) > > > > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left) > > > > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36% left) > > > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg) > > > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi) > > > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter) > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:45:33 > > > > Sunset: 18:47:30 > > > > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191 > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15 > > > > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> > wrote:Namaste > > > Devika, > > > > > > > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone > gets > > > > their mails to the Inboxes! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Narayan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > > <devikadhillon> wrote: > > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a > student > > in > > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house. > > > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her: > > > > > A naturally born painter > > > > > A very sharp and good looking > > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her > > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family > > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > Some negative points: > > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings > > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > > beloved > > > > child > > > > > > > > > > Questions: > > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both? > > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so > much > > > fond > > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > 3. 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Thank you for taking time to take a look at this puzzle. It is a very difficult question and if I give more clues then someone may purely guess instead of actually looking and studying the chart in detail. There is nothing physically wrong about the mother. It is very difficult for me to say whether my question, "What is so unusal about her mother", pertains to a physical characteristic or not. Let that serve as a clue. Thanks, Devika Bharat <hinduastrology > wrote: Namaskaar Sri DevikaI never participate in puzzles, however I am intrigued by the yourquestion - as what is unusual about the mother of the native. It isindeed difficult question as something may be unusual for one personbut not for another. I happen to check the chart as per corrected time by Sri Naarayana.There seems to be something unusual about her chest. The 2ndpossibility is that her feet have something unusual about them. Thanks and RegardsBharatvedic astrology, Devika Dhillon<devikadhillon> wrote:> Namaste Narayana Ji,> My responses below.> > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> Namaste Devika Ji,> > Thanks for your feedback! ... to answer your questions:> > 1. What I meant .... was that birth time shd be around 10.16 or > so ... just so that the Navamsa Lagna becomes Taurus. > Devika: That works.> 2. About the physical characteristics of Mother .... unusual > stuff ... if you mean ... things like .... being blonde or having> blue colored eye or green like Aishwariya rai ... it is difficult to> predict these things ... Rahu is aspecting 2nd from Sagittarius may > give her ... an uncoventional eye color !!!> Devika: Her eyes are not unconventional. I know this is difficult,but I will wait to reveal the answer, if in case someone is interestedto solve.> > Warm Regards> Narayan> > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> > Thanks for your brilliant analysis. Please look for my > responses below:> > > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > > > Namaste Devika Ji,> > > > > > Here's what I could gather, based on the facts(details) given by > you:> > > > I would have to say that Navamsa Lagna has to be Taurus, which > > means a change of time around 10:15. > > Devika: If I change the time from 10:10 AM to 10:15 AM, I am still > getting Aries as Navamsa lagna and not Taurus. Which software are > you using? Here are the birth details again, please verify with the > details you plugged in into the chart:> > > > February 20, 1983> > Time: 10:10:00 or 10:15(as per Naarayana calculation)> > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> > Nairobi, Kenya> > > > > > -> Taurus Navamsa Lagna has Mercury and aspected by Mars/Venus > and> > Moon/Sat.> > -> Mercury gives good looks, aspect of Venus provides her with> > passion and appreciation of finer aspects of life! Sun in AL> > in rasi chart will give her magnetism and charm.> > -> Mars gives the dynamism and aggressiveness, and Venus > provides> > short-tempered nature.> > -> Mercury indicates a painter. Aspect of Venus makes her a > > talented painter, and one who is more than involved in just> > imitating others works or carricature of people. She will be> > innovative.> > > > Devika: I do not know whether she is imitating others works or > doing carricature of people. But she does have tendency of making > fun of people.> > > > > > -> Moon & Venus aspecting the Navamsa Lagna gives opulence, and> > such a person is usually born in a very rich family, or> > who eventually becomes rich.> > > > D12 Lagna is Taurus. This was difficult. On the face of it > the > > relationship seems to be fine. Here' what I could come up with:> > Devika: The relationship with mother is not that bad, but mother > is still very jealous of her and both gets into arguments a lot. > Although, I have also seen them teaming up to achieve certain goals.> > -> Graha Arudha of 9L from Sun, falls in Cancer, which is > aspected> > by Moon/Jupiter/Saturn. Showing a very affectionate father, > who> > must be very hard working and conservative(traditional). The> > Lord exalted in Lagna shows his affection and benign > influence.> > He could be involved in some kind of business associated with> > hardware/manufacturing (Mars in 10), or Insurance (Saturn in > > 8H), having connection in politics (Sun in 10H). AL & A9 > > together in 11h shows good relations, with its lord > influencing> > the lagna.> > Devika: Naaraayana, very brilliant analysis here. To be exact, the > father is involved in the hardware business. The father also has > friends in high places, for example, friendship with the Attorney > general of India, friendship with people in politics (but he himself > in not in politics. Although he has been a leader in his community), > friendships with many of the richest people in England, friendships > with cotton mill owners in India, etc. The dad is also very much > influential to his daughter and adores her.> > -> Psychology is shown by Moon and its association with either> > Rahu or Saturn. She does have Moon/Saturn in trines to Navamsa> > Lagna, in D24, lord of A9 is in Cancer(Mind) aspected by> > Nodes from Aquarius showing Psychology. Mars/Venus in 7th from> > A9, indicating the time frame when she must have started this> > study around ... 2001.> > Devika: Yes to be exact, she started studying in 2001.> > > > -> Graha Arudha of 4L from Moon falls in Sagittatius. 4L is > > afflicted by 8L Moon, indicating no education or very little> > education. Aspect of a strong Mercury on Sagittarius shows> > good looking Mother. Aspect of Ketu confirms it (Ketu gives> > good looks too!). The lord Jupiter although inimical to Venus> > (D12 Lagna lord) is placed on lagna, showing that mother is> > forced to be nice to the native. > > > > Devika: The mother is forced by the father to be nice to her.> > > > The placement of planets,> > indicates to me, that the relationship is not as bad as you> > have portrayed it to be!!! A4 is in 8H and this is not good,> > as this shows insecurities and aspected by Nodes!> > > > Unusual thing about Mother ... puzzles me ... Rahu in 10th> > (from Sagittarius) could make her Religious(Piligrimages) ...> > she could be enterpreneuring in nature ... ketu in 4th not> > good for heart ... must be besotted with ill-health and some> > kind of chronic disease!! On the positive side, she could be> > involved in occult .> > Devika: The mother is not religious at all and is not involved in > occult. Her health is very good. Here the question: "What is so > unusual about her mother" is a very difficult one. I hesitated to > ask the question, but I was curious and had to ask anyway. Because > my question is so difficult, I am going to give you a clue. And that > is to think about something physically (not like athletic abiltity > or anything related to that). And at the same time, there is nothing > wrong with her mother. > > -> Among the siblings, she could be having elder(s) and problem > > with them. 11H in D3 has Sun/Saturn combination, not good for> > any kind of harmonius relationship and Graha Arudha of 11L > from> > Saturn(Elder) falls in Gemini with Rahu in it, opposed to> > Mars the Lagna lord!!> > Devika: Will comment on this later, since this was one of the > question.> > Please let us know.> > > > Warm Regards> > Narayan> > > > > > -> This was difficult. On the face of it the relationship seems> > to be fine. H> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Namaste Naaraayana Ji,> > > I have not revealed my answers yet. I have just given more > > info about her mother and that's all. All the questions that I > have > > asked still stands. Please take your time to analyze. I will wait > > for 2 or 3 weeks.> > > > > > Thanks,> > > Devika> > > > > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > > Namaste Devika JI,> > > > > > I wanted to take a crack at it , but had no time!> > > Now, that you have revealed some info, I will not attempt it.> > > > > > But, I am interested in case for research purposes, and I will > > write > > > to you privately.> > > > > > Thanks> > > Warm Regards> > > Narayan> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > > Dear Sanjay,> > > > Looks like you are the only one interested in this puzzle. > > See > > > my 2 comments below:> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > > > > Namaste Devika,> > > > Let me attempt,> > > > > > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a > student > > in > > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Rahu is her atmakaaraka, giving good research > ability. > > > Also in Navamsa Lagna lord mars in 4th Cancer(Mind), Also in D9 > > > trines she has Sun and Rahu conjoined given ability for research > > > into minds and Sun is natural Vaidya.> > > > Devika: Is this going to be a philosophical research? Is she > > going > > > to dive into philosophy?> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > > > A naturally born painter> > > > > > > > SanjayP: D9 is for inherent abilities, D9 Lagna lord is Mars > > > debilitated in Water sign and most importantly conjoined Venus. > > > Water signs and Venus give painting abilities.> > > > > > > > > A very sharp and good looking> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Good looks could be due to Exalted Moon in second > house> > > (for Face).> > > > > > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Sun in AL gives a person who may seem arrogant or > > proud. > > > Here it's the 5th lord on AL so it seems she is lucky.> > > > > > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family> > > > > > > > SanjayP: 11th from AL is for wealth, 'Tasmin Ucche va Neecha > > > Srimantha' i.e exalted or debilitated planets give excess rich. > > Here > > > we have Exalted Ketu in 11th from AL.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some negative points:> > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Gulika in 3rd can give bad relation with siblings.> > > > > > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > > beloved > > > > child> > > > > > > > SanjayP: Could be due 2-12 relation between AL and A4.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions:> > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > > > > > > SanjayP: It 3rd lord in D3 is with exalted moon could indicate > a > > > younger brother and 11th lord rahu exalted can indicate an elder > > > brother too. > > > > > > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so > much > > > fond > > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > > > > SanjayP: Actually there may be time where her relation with > both > > > parents may improve since,> > > > Mars Lagna lord is in Ashwini Kumara division in D12,> > > > Chance with mother to improve is also high as Lagna is in > > Ganesha > > > division in D12.> > > > Due to Exalted Sun being in Lagna in D12 division diety of > Yama, > > > Favour from father is High. But that's mostly due to her > following > > > strict rules in home in seems.> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > > > SanjayP: In D12 4th lord moon is exalted with Jupiter, A4 is > > with > > > Ketu in Pisces. A4 is in Kartari between malefics. Sat and Mars. > > But > > > due to A4 lord Jup also conjoined Exalted moon, I would say > > whatever > > > is unusual should be in a nice manner. But I am not sure as to > how > > > to decipher the A4 between malefics. It may be possible that her > > > mother maybe in same profession?. or some high position?.> > > > Devika: Let me give you some more details about her mother so > > that > > > you can study further. Her mother has never worked in her life > and > > > barely passed high school. Her mother used to be good looking in > > her > > > teens and was offered a movie role by a well known producer, but > > > because of the family restrictions she had to decline. The > > question > > > still stands, "What is so unusual about her mother?"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards> > > > Sanjay P> > > > > > > > > > > > BFemale> > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > February 20, 1983> > > > Time: 10:10:00> > > > Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 36 E 50' 00", 1 S 17' 00"> > > > Nairobi, Massachusetts, USA> > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Adhika Phalguna> > > > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (95.18% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > > > Nakshatra: Krittika (Su) (59.66% left)> > > > Yoga: Indra (Ra) (53.66% left)> > > > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (90.36% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)> > > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi)> > > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)> > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:45:33> > > > Sunset: 18:47:30> > > > Janma Ghatis: 8.5191> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-37-00.15> > > > Sidereal Time: 19:35:57> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> > wrote:Namaste > > > Devika,> > > > > > > > Could you please post the birth details ... as not everyone > gets > > > > their mails to the Inboxes!> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Narayan> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon > > > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > > > Attached is a chart of a 22 year old female. She is a > student > > in > > > > Psychology having Aries lagna and Mars in the 12 house.> > > > > > > > > > Some positive points about her:> > > > > A naturally born painter> > > > > A very sharp and good looking> > > > > I have never seen anyone more luckier than her> > > > > Brought up in an ultra rich family> > > > > Unconditionally adored by her father > > > > > > > > > > Some negative points:> > > > > Extremely rude to her siblings> > > > > Her mother is jealous of her because she is her father's > > beloved > > > > child> > > > > > > > > > Questions:> > > > > 1. How many siblings does she have? Younger or older or both?> > > > > 2. From the chart how can you tell that her father is so > much > > > fond > > > > of her and her mother envies her. > > > > > 3. What is so unusual about her mother. > > > > > > > > > > Devika> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms > of > > > Service.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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