Example of Retrograde Saturn in Aries For Sri Ramdas ji.

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It's good to read your email . I would like to implement some practical examples

with theory.

Here is a chart . Could you please comment on Saturn of this chart and help me

understand how this Saturn has effected or will effect the person and then we

can compare with reality of his life.

 

DOB:DEC-10-1970

TOB 15:35

POB:NEW DELHI.

 

Married in May 1996

1st Child in year 2000 oct.

 

Regards

Lokesh

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear GS,

I agree that Retrograde planets have Chesta Bala but if such planets are

placedin their exaltation or debilitation signs,they give results contrary to

that sign of exalt.or debil.

Now let us take the example of Jyothi Lakshmi.In her chart, Budha is retrograde

and exalted ie., in Kanya Rashi.So Budha has chesta Bala of 59.94 which is

highest in the chart which no other planets have and as a result his Shadbala

is highest in the chart.Then he has to give very good results.Rather it gave

very bad results mainly concerned with her health point of view as Budha is in

Kanya which rules our intestines and this problem will be there till this

planet gets direct in her life time.Budha became direct on 18th of October 1975

and so she had severe health problems connected with intestines till she reached

17 years and then afterwards it almost disappeared.I hope Jyothi Lakshmi will be

able to give the correctness of my statement.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.jsk_1010 <jsk_1010 > wrote:

Dear learned members,The question of exaltation+Retro = debiliaton and vice

versa is worth pondering over.if we are using the equation exalted+retro =

debilitated, then do the rules of neechabhanga apply to that

planet?.Retrogression is said to impart strength( chestha bala) to the planet.

So it is kind of contradiction when we say that exalted+retro = debilitated.

Another point for deliberation is that why only exalted and retro are

debilitated.. why not retrograde planets posited in own house.Keeping in mind

the dictum that benefic retrograde planets are said to bestow good results on

the native, here one may have to then differentiate the retrogression( and

possibly exal+retro= deb. equation) between Jup,venus,Mer and Sat,Mars.Also

overall state of a planet should be the final say taking into

account the Avasthas,rays of the planet, instead of merely focusing on one

aspect. A debilitated planet full of bright rays is said to confer raja yoga.In

my opinion, if a planet is strong in shad bala but debilitated due to being

"retrograde and exalted" would still confer good results, if it is lord of good

houses. with regardsGSP.S: Shri Ramadas Raoji, can you please furnish the birth

details of the natives( if possible) where exalted and retrograde planets give

results akin to debiliated planets for further research. Thanks --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae

naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Raj Sharma,> As Shani is the lord of 2nd

house also, placed in 7th house, I have considered both.> I hope this helps

you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> >

Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote:> Dear Ramadas, > > In this example, you have

used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct that the debts are related to

marriage, love etc, while in previous example you have used lordship of the

retrograde planet to indicate the karmic debt connection. > > Which one to use

- placement or lordship? or both > > Regards > > Raj > > > POOJA RAJDEV

<its_me_pooja> wrote:> Respected Ramadasji,> > Thanks for the update.>

Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or

jupiter retrograde in 4th house.> And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as

they are also retrograde.> Does this also implies that the native will have

different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel?> > Also to

add both the conclusions are

correct.> > Regards,> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae

naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Pooja Rajdev,> Now in the chart given

Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as

Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage,

love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with

his mother.> I hope this helps.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas

Rao.> > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote:> Ramadasji,> > This is in

addition to the mail below on retrograde planets.> > In the following chart :>

Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.>

Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.> Does this implies

that native has

karmic relations with 2nd house related.> The other thought process was that

since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts > from past

birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.> Which one is more

appropriate and why?> > > > > > Personal

DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan Swami(Ascendent Lord)SatnRashi(Moon

Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign

Lord)SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra Swami(Constellation

Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth Name Character)GESurya

Rashi(Sun

Sign)CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVargaBilava>

> Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant

--------15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6°42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1°22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29°0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2°8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24°43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1°27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1°18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1°4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0°23'21''20°30'30''Virgo>

> ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote:> RamdasJi,> > Pranaam,> > In my case

the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > days so will the

karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming > I do not live upto 109

years :-)> > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how

> does it manifest in real life.> > Regards,> > Ashish> > > --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote:> > > > `

nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Avin,> > In your chart, Kuja

(V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like > as if exalted.But he gets

Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > and so Kuja will work as if he is in

4th house which is his own > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before

marriage your > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in

the > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > Karmic

connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > example, Kuja is your

4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > indicates your Past life Karmas with

your mother and elderly co-borns > still exist and will continue till Kuja

becomes direct in this life.I > have written an

article about this almost a year back to this and > Varaha Mihira list.Now how

to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > and the Karmic connection with such

people will complete is by > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your

birth date, when this > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days

this planet become> > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and

the end of > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> > I hope

this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > >

avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they

are:> > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> > TOB: 10:20 am> > Place:

Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > minutes north)>

>

India> > > > Thanks > > -Avin> > > > vedic astrology,

"avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned

Members,> > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets

= > > exalted > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding

the same.> > > > > > My questions are:> > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is

retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > > house). Does that mean that mars will

actually behave as if it > > were > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that

aspects of mars will be good? > > Also, > > > mars and moon are in parivartana.

What are the implications of > > this > > > parivartana ?> > >

> > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > >

would > > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > >

implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > > > 3.)

Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > > exactly the

same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > > > 4.) Lastly, how to

determine if a planet is stationary and what > is > > so > > > special about

stationary planets ?> > > > > > Thankyou > > > -Avin> > > > > > > > > >

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