Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 "Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from parashara too reveals the same." KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring ? Please reply KIDvijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear respected memberssutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h |evaM trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30||All of us know the importance of panchama bahava in rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is Jupiter.Thus 5th lord and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We all know where to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has explained to us the relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas for afluence.Suta bhava navamshacha is thus clearly the navamsha of 5th lord - and shri Narasimha too agree - though he uses the word ambiguity.Now sage says similarly, see the above from trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to see the 5th lords and jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is intelligently tilting the priority.There are numerous such shlokas under jaimini sutras, karakamsha etc,referring to aspects involving amshas.We know the difference in opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these from,ie Rashi or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the gola and ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is no chance for ambiguity.I have always said by chart - we do not mean drawing - but analysis with bhavas.The word kundali does not mean we have to see bhavas there.Parashara muni has clearly said where to see 12 Bhavas(because he uses bhava lords along with their navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha etc).We cannot find a single shloka where, bhava is mentioned in vargamshas.I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was haste.Apart from my discretion,( ofcourse within my limitations),i had also listened to scholars like Late Santhanam(who can never be haste as he has translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao, K.C.KeshavaPillai etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from parashara too reveals the same.Thus this does not stop us from answering the basic question.The lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses from HORA as per sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as per the much praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and answer than getting over with intelligent interpretations.ThanksPradeep Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Dear shri Kid I was referring to K.C.Keshavapillai author of Jyothisha Gurubhoothan.Kerala. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid> wrote: > Pradeep, > "Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > parashara too reveals the same." > KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring ? > Please reply > KID > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear respected members > > sutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h | > evaM trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30|| > > All of us know the importance of panchama bahava in > rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is Jupiter.Thus 5th > lord and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We all know > where to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has explained to > us the relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas for > afluence. > > Suta bhava navamshacha is thus clearly the navamsha of 5th lord - > and shri Narasimha too agree - though he uses the word > ambiguity.Now sage says similarly, see the above from > trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to see the 5th lords and > jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is intelligently tilting the > priority. > > There are numerous such shlokas under jaimini sutras, karakamsha > etc,referring to aspects involving amshas.We know the difference in > opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these from,ie Rashi > or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the gola and > ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is no chance for > ambiguity.I have always said by chart - we do not mean drawing - but > analysis with bhavas.The word kundali does not mean we have to see > bhavas there. > Parashara muni has clearly said where to see 12 Bhavas(because he > uses bhava lords along with their navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha > etc).We cannot find a single shloka where, bhava is mentioned in > vargamshas. > > I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was haste.Apart > from my discretion,( ofcourse within my limitations),i had also > listened to scholars like Late Santhanam(who can never be haste as > he has translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao, K.C.KeshavaPillai > etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > parashara too reveals the same. > > Thus this does not stop us from answering the basic question.The > lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses from HORA as per > sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as per the much > praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and answer than getting > over with intelligent interpretations. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Now I Know for sure that you are a keralite. No wonder you display deep erudition and scholarship in the ongoing debate.From Vararuchi- via-- Sangamagrama Madhava-to Prof A R Rajaraja Verma to Dr KV Sharma to Dr N E Muthuswami, the state of kerala had produced a lineage of outstanding scholars in astrology.Initially, I mistook your intentions; and I am sorry for that.Now, I presume, you are a person encaged in dispassionate study.Keep it up Regards KIDvijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear shri KidI was referring to K.C.Keshavapillai author of Jyothisha Gurubhoothan.Kerala.ThanksPradeepvedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:> Pradeep,> "Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > parashara too reveals the same."> KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring ?> Please reply> KID> > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> Dear respected members> > sutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h |> evaM trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30||> > All of us know the importance of panchama bahava in > rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is Jupiter.Thus 5th > lord and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We all know > where to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has explained to > us the relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas for > afluence.> > Suta bhava navamshacha is thus clearly the navamsha of 5th lord - > and shri Narasimha too agree - though he uses the word > ambiguity.Now sage says similarly, see the above from > trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to see the 5th lords and > jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is intelligently tilting the > priority.> > There are numerous such shlokas under jaimini sutras, karakamsha > etc,referring to aspects involving amshas.We know the difference in > opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these from,ie Rashi > or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the gola and > ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is no chance for > ambiguity.I have always said by chart - we do not mean drawing - but > analysis with bhavas.The word kundali does not mean we have to see > bhavas there.> Parashara muni has clearly said where to see 12 Bhavas(because he > uses bhava lords along with their navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha > etc).We cannot find a single shloka where, bhava is mentioned in > vargamshas.> > I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was haste.Apart > from my discretion,( ofcourse within my limitations),i had also > listened to scholars like Late Santhanam(who can never be haste as > he has translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao, K.C.KeshavaPillai > etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > parashara too reveals the same.> > Thus this does not stop us from answering the basic question.The > lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses from HORA as per > sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as per the much > praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and answer than getting > over with intelligent interpretations.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home pageTired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Dear shri Kid Thanks for your kind words. It is a privilige and blessing to have a lineage of learned scholars showing path. Kind regds Pradeep vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid> wrote: > Dear Pradeep, > Now I Know for sure that you are a keralite. No wonder you display deep erudition and scholarship in the ongoing debate.From Vararuchi- via-- Sangamagrama Madhava-to Prof A R Rajaraja Verma to Dr KV Sharma to Dr N E Muthuswami, the state of kerala had produced a lineage of outstanding scholars in astrology.Initially, I mistook your intentions; and I am sorry for that.Now, I presume, you are a person encaged in dispassionate study.Keep it up > Regards > KID > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear shri Kid > > I was referring to K.C.Keshavapillai author of Jyothisha > Gurubhoothan.Kerala. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid> > wrote: > > Pradeep, > > "Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > > parashara too reveals the same." > > KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring ? > > Please reply > > KID > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear respected members > > > > sutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h | > > evaM trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30|| > > > > All of us know the importance of panchama bahava in > > rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is Jupiter.Thus 5th > > lord and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We all > know > > where to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has explained > to > > us the relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas for > > afluence. > > > > Suta bhava navamshacha is thus clearly the navamsha of 5th lord - > > and shri Narasimha too agree - though he uses the word > > ambiguity.Now sage says similarly, see the above from > > trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to see the 5th lords and > > jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is intelligently tilting > the > > priority. > > > > There are numerous such shlokas under jaimini sutras, karakamsha > > etc,referring to aspects involving amshas.We know the difference > in > > opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these from,ie > Rashi > > or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the gola > and > > ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is no chance for > > ambiguity.I have always said by chart - we do not mean drawing - > but > > analysis with bhavas.The word kundali does not mean we have to see > > bhavas there. > > Parashara muni has clearly said where to see 12 Bhavas(because he > > uses bhava lords along with their navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha > > etc).We cannot find a single shloka where, bhava is mentioned in > > vargamshas. > > > > I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was haste.Apart > > from my discretion,( ofcourse within my limitations),i had also > > listened to scholars like Late Santhanam(who can never be haste > as > > he has translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao, K.C.KeshavaPillai > > etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > > parashara too reveals the same. > > > > Thus this does not stop us from answering the basic question.The > > lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses from HORA as > per > > sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as per the much > > praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and answer than getting > > over with intelligent interpretations. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Dasa Astrology horoscope Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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