Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Panditji and others According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points Navamsa : 3.0 points Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) Total : 10.5 points Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points All other Div charts: 0.5 points So Rasi=3.5 points and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of Time). So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most important take away for me. Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Dear Manjunath sharma ji Here parashara is advising us to see the vimshopaka bala of a planet or lagna before arriving at prediction.This never needs houses.It is purely based on amsha. Also shastyamsha has no points in shadvarga - which rudrabhatta clasiisfied as representors of shadchakra from mooladhara chakra onwards.Parashara said shashtyamsha is for general matters. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "M Sharma" <chitra2pada> wrote: > Panditji and others > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > Navamsa : 3.0 points > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > Total : 10.5 points > > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points > > All other Div charts: 0.5 points > > So Rasi=3.5 points > and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points > > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > Time). > > > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > important take away for me. > > Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Namaste Manjunath, > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates..> > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points> Navamsa : 3.0 points> Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!)> Total : 10.5 points Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! Shastyamsa, the chart of previous birth and sanchita karma, is not even relevant in prasna and muhurta and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 chart group) and sapta varga (7 chart group) used for those purposes. But, it is highly relevant in human charts. That's why it not only finds mention in dasa varga and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets a higher score than all other charts in those two groups! BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga vimsopaka bala. Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and vimsopaka bala as per all the four. Most of the results given by Parasara in later chapters actually use dasa varga group rather than shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga are not used that much in the yogas mentioned later. But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used more. This indicates that dasa varga is the most relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are strengths given in that group: Rasi: 3.5 points Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a higher weightage than rasi and navamsa, but it gets a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined! I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and not a science. If ever astrology is established as science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa will have a big role in that science of astrology. Without further progress in the use of shashtyamsa chart, we don't stand a chance of converting astrology into a science. With D-60 ignored, astrology will remain an art. Time has come for me to leave all distractions and give one final push to finish the TP book. From this Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be totally off the lists. In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the transliteration of all Sanskrit content of my TP book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that mail. Yes, Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and give the transliteration of the limited Sanskrit text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the official language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that there was no documentation of TP in Sanskrit language, while there is so much documentation of it in English. So, for sentimental reasons, I documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the blessings of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the book. Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you! If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I showed in the recent days in the tiff with Pradeep, I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-) May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Panditji and others> > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates..> > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points> Navamsa : 3.0 points> Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!)> Total : 10.5 points> > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points> > All other Div charts: 0.5 points> > So Rasi=3.5 points> and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points> > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > Time).> > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > important take away for me. > > Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Namaste, I made a typo. > Rasi: 3.5 points> Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each> Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points It should be: Rasi: 3 pointsNavamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points eachShastyamsa (D-60): 5 points May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha-------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Namaste Manjunath,> > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates..> > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points> > Navamsa : 3.0 points> > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!)> > Total : 10.5 points> > Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! Shastyamsa, the chart of previous birth and sanchita karma, is not even relevant in prasna and muhurta and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 chart group) and sapta varga (7 chart group) used for those purposes. But, it is highly relevant in human charts. That's why it not only finds mention in dasa varga and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets a higher score than all other charts in those two groups!> > BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga vimsopaka bala.> > Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and vimsopaka bala as per all the four.> > Most of the results given by Parasara in later chapters actually use dasa varga group rather than shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga are not used that much in the yogas mentioned later. But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used more. This indicates that dasa varga is the most relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are strengths given in that group:> > Rasi: 3.5 points> Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each> Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points> > You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a higher weightage than rasi and navamsa, but it gets a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined!> > I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and not a science. If ever astrology is established as science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa will have a big role in that science of astrology. Without further progress in the use of shashtyamsa chart, we don't stand a chance of converting astrology into a science. With D-60 ignored, astrology will remain an art.> > Time has come for me to leave all distractions and give one final push to finish the TP book. From this Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be totally off the lists.> > In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the transliteration of all Sanskrit content of my TP book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that mail. Yes, Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and give the transliteration of the limited Sanskrit text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the official language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that there was no documentation of TP in Sanskrit language, while there is so much documentation of it in English. So, for sentimental reasons, I documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the blessings of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the book.> > Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you!> > If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I showed in the recent days in the tiff with Pradeep, I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-)> > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha> -------------------------------> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> -------------------------------> > > Panditji and others> > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates..> > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points> > Navamsa : 3.0 points> > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!)> > Total : 10.5 points> > > > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points> > > > All other Div charts: 0.5 points> > > > So Rasi=3.5 points> > and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points> > > > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > > Time).> > > > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > > important take away for me. > > > > Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Namaste, Good luck with the book .... On 7/20/05, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: > Namaste Manjunath, > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > Total : 10.5 points > > Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! Shastyamsa, the chart of > previous birth and sanchita karma, is not even relevant in prasna and > muhurta and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 chart group) and > sapta varga (7 chart group) used for those purposes. But, it is highly > relevant in human charts. That's why it not only finds mention in dasa varga > and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets > a higher score than all other charts in those two groups! > > BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga vimsopaka bala. > > Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and vimsopaka bala as per all > the four. > > Most of the results given by Parasara in later chapters actually use dasa > varga group rather than shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas > based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga are not used that much in > the yogas mentioned later. But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. > Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used more. This indicates that > dasa varga is the most relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are > strengths given in that group: > > Rasi: 3.5 points > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a higher weightage than rasi and > navamsa, but it gets a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined! > > I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most > today, is an art and not a science. If ever astrology is established as > science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa will have a big role in > that science of astrology. Without further progress in the use of > shashtyamsa chart, we don't stand a chance of converting astrology into a > science. With D-60 ignored, astrology will remain an art. > > Time has come for me to leave all distractions and give one final push to > finish the TP book. From this Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be > totally off the lists. > > In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the transliteration of all Sanskrit > content of my TP book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that mail. Yes, > Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and give the transliteration of the > limited Sanskrit text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the official > language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that there was no documentation of TP in > Sanskrit language, while there is so much documentation of it in English. > So, for sentimental reasons, I documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the > blessings of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the book. > > Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you! > > If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I showed in the recent days > in the tiff with Pradeep, I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-) > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > Panditji and others > > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > Total : 10.5 points > > > > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points > > > > All other Div charts: 0.5 points > > > > So Rasi=3.5 points > > and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points > > > > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > > Time). > > > > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > > important take away for me. > > > > Manjunath Sharma > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > > > vedic astrology > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi, One Important Question, how to rectify the chart till Shastyamsa level, as it is very time sensitive. Do we have some book / lecture, which explains the intricacies of dealing with Shastyamsa chart. Regards, Neeraj --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: > Namaste, > > I made a typo. > > > Rasi: 3.5 points > > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: > 1.5 points each > > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > It should be: > > Rasi: 3 points > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 > points each > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > Namaste Manjunath, > > > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important > chart!) > > > Total : 10.5 points > > > > Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! > Shastyamsa, the chart of previous birth and sanchita > karma, is not even relevant in prasna and muhurta > and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 > chart group) and sapta varga (7 chart group) used > for those purposes. But, it is highly relevant in > human charts. That's why it not only finds mention > in dasa varga and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart > groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets a higher > score than all other charts in those two groups! > > > > BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga > vimsopaka bala. > > > > Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and > vimsopaka bala as per all the four. > > > > Most of the results given by Parasara in later > chapters actually use dasa varga group rather than > shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas > based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga > are not used that much in the yogas mentioned later. > But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. > Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used > more. This indicates that dasa varga is the most > relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are > strengths given in that group: > > > > Rasi: 3.5 points > > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: > 1.5 points each > > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > > > You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a > higher weightage than rasi and navamsa, but it gets > a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined! > > > > I can make one statement very confidently: > Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and > not a science. If ever astrology is established as > science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa > will have a big role in that science of astrology. > Without further progress in the use of shashtyamsa > chart, we don't stand a chance of converting > astrology into a science. With D-60 ignored, > astrology will remain an art. > > > > Time has come for me to leave all distractions and > give one final push to finish the TP book. From this > Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be totally > off the lists. > > > > In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the > transliteration of all Sanskrit content of my TP > book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that > mail. Yes, Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and > give the transliteration of the limited Sanskrit > text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the > official language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that > there was no documentation of TP in Sanskrit > language, while there is so much documentation of it > in English. So, for sentimental reasons, I > documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the blessings > of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the > book. > > > > Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you! > > > > If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I > showed in the recent days in the tiff with Pradeep, > I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-) > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------------- > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > Panditji and others > > > > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important > chart!) > > > Total : 10.5 points > > > > > > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: > 2 points > > > > > > All other Div charts: 0.5 points > > > > > > So Rasi=3.5 points > > > and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points > > > > > > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, > Astrology Destiny Wheel of > > > Time). > > > > > > So it appears that Navamsa and any other > divisional chart will at > > > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This > is the most > > > important take away for me. > > > > > > Manjunath Sharma > http://www.neerajgupta.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Thanks for clarifications and comments - Pradeepji and Narasimhaji. <pvr@c...> wrote: >> I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and not a science. My view: Astrology is and will remain an an art for a long time to come. There is an element of siddhi and adrishti that is and cannot be explained by normal science. In every area: Semi conductors, auto, market research, finance (modeling stock prices): There are basic principles of modeling and forecating. After a certain threshold - it almost becomes an art form. One quick example: Stock forecasting (Price target of an equity). If one gives the same 10k (accounting) statements to 10 different analysts. One will end up with 10 different price ranges. The answer is that different poeple bring a set of qualitative and quantitative expertise to the table and use that to judge an outcome.. Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Dear Narasimha ji Thanks for the wishes and all the best.Thanks for all the knowledge shared. Kind regds Pradeep vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste, > > I made a typo. > > > Rasi: 3.5 points > > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each > > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > It should be: > > Rasi: 3 points > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > Namaste Manjunath, > > > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > > Total : 10.5 points > > > > Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! Shastyamsa, the chart of previous birth and sanchita karma, is not even relevant in prasna and muhurta and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 chart group) and sapta varga (7 chart group) used for those purposes. But, it is highly relevant in human charts. That's why it not only finds mention in dasa varga and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets a higher score than all other charts in those two groups! > > > > BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga vimsopaka bala. > > > > Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and vimsopaka bala as per all the four. > > > > Most of the results given by Parasara in later chapters actually use dasa varga group rather than shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga are not used that much in the yogas mentioned later. But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used more. This indicates that dasa varga is the most relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are strengths given in that group: > > > > Rasi: 3.5 points > > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each > > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > > > You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a higher weightage than rasi and navamsa, but it gets a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined! > > > > I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and not a science. If ever astrology is established as science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa will have a big role in that science of astrology. Without further progress in the use of shashtyamsa chart, we don't stand a chance of converting astrology into a science. With D-60 ignored, astrology will remain an art. > > > > Time has come for me to leave all distractions and give one final push to finish the TP book. From this Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be totally off the lists. > > > > In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the transliteration of all Sanskrit content of my TP book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that mail. Yes, Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and give the transliteration of the limited Sanskrit text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the official language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that there was no documentation of TP in Sanskrit language, while there is so much documentation of it in English. So, for sentimental reasons, I documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the blessings of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the book. > > > > Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you! > > > > If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I showed in the recent days in the tiff with Pradeep, I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-) > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------------- > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------------- > > > > > Panditji and others > > > > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > > Total : 10.5 points > > > > > > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points > > > > > > All other Div charts: 0.5 points > > > > > > So Rasi=3.5 points > > > and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points > > > > > > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > > > Time). > > > > > > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > > > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > > > important take away for me. > > > > > > Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hope u are doing well and your books coming along well. I would like to know if there is any article or book which tells us how to analyze Shastyamsa? Could you pls help Lokesh"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste Manjunath, > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates..> > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points> Navamsa : 3.0 points> Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!)> Total : 10.5 points Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! Shastyamsa, the chart of previous birth and sanchita karma, is not even relevant in prasna and muhurta and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 chart group) and sapta varga (7 chart group) used for those purposes. But, it is highly relevant in human charts. That's why it not only finds mention in dasa varga and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets a higher score than all other charts in those two groups! BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga vimsopaka bala. Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and vimsopaka bala as per all the four. Most of the results given by Parasara in later chapters actually use dasa varga group rather than shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga are not used that much in the yogas mentioned later. But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used more. This indicates that dasa varga is the most relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are strengths given in that group: Rasi: 3.5 points Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a higher weightage than rasi and navamsa, but it gets a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined! I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and not a science. If ever astrology is established as science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa will have a big role in that science of astrology. Without further progress in the use of shashtyamsa chart, we don't stand a chance of converting astrology into a science. With D-60 ignored, astrology will remain an art. Time has come for me to leave all distractions and give one final push to finish the TP book. From this Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be totally off the lists. In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the transliteration of all Sanskrit content of my TP book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that mail. Yes, Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and give the transliteration of the limited Sanskrit text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the official language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that there was no documentation of TP in Sanskrit language, while there is so much documentation of it in English. So, for sentimental reasons, I documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the blessings of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the book. Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you! If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I showed in the recent days in the tiff with Pradeep, I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-) May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Panditji and others> > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates..> > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points> Navamsa : 3.0 points> Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!)> Total : 10.5 points> > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points> > All other Div charts: 0.5 points> > So Rasi=3.5 points> and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points> > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > Time).> > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > important take away for me. > > Manjunath Sharma Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Lokesh Ji, I have found a wonderful article on D-60 (Shastyamsa) in the Varga Chakra Book by SJC Year 2002. See if you can get hold of this Book. Also, Narasimha Ji, talked about Shastyamsa in his recent Boston Class and the audio can be downloaded from his lecture site : http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Hope the above is helpful to you. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, Lokesh Khosla <lokesh_khosla2000> wrote: > Narsimha, > > Hope u are doing well and your books coming along well. > I would like to know if there is any article or book which tells us how to analyze Shastyamsa? > > Could you pls help > > Lokesh > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste Manjunath, > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > Total : 10.5 points > > Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! Shastyamsa, the chart of previous birth and sanchita karma, is not even relevant in prasna and muhurta and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 chart group) and sapta varga (7 chart group) used for those purposes. But, it is highly relevant in human charts. That's why it not only finds mention in dasa varga and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets a higher score than all other charts in those two groups! > > BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga vimsopaka bala. > > Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and vimsopaka bala as per all the four. > > Most of the results given by Parasara in later chapters actually use dasa varga group rather than shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga are not used that much in the yogas mentioned later. But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used more. This indicates that dasa varga is the most relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are strengths given in that group: > > Rasi: 3.5 points > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a higher weightage than rasi and navamsa, but it gets a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined! > > I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and not a science. If ever astrology is established as science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa will have a big role in that science of astrology. Without further progress in the use of shashtyamsa chart, we don't stand a chance of converting astrology into a science. With D-60 ignored, astrology will remain an art. > > Time has come for me to leave all distractions and give one final push to finish the TP book. From this Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be totally off the lists. > > In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the transliteration of all Sanskrit content of my TP book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that mail. Yes, Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and give the transliteration of the limited Sanskrit text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the official language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that there was no documentation of TP in Sanskrit language, while there is so much documentation of it in English. So, for sentimental reasons, I documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the blessings of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the book. > > Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you! > > If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I showed in the recent days in the tiff with Pradeep, I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-) > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Panditji and others > > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > Total : 10.5 points > > > > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points > > > > All other Div charts: 0.5 points > > > > So Rasi=3.5 points > > and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points > > > > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > > Time). > > > > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > > important take away for me. > > > > Manjunath Sharma > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Namaskaar Sri Lokesh, Sri Pradeep, Sri Narasimha and others Following are my thoughts on shashtiamsa.... Ignorance (avarna) and its misinterpretation (vikshepa) express as five koshas: 1. Anna-maya - the physical body 2. Prana-maya - the pranas 3. Mano-maya- the functioning of the mind 4. Vijnana-maya - ability to understand things that we did not know earlier.Many translate this to intellect. In my view this refers to values. Deep seated functioning of decision making and reasonsing based on self decided standards. 5. Ananda-maya- Sleep or expression of ignorance. The first four kosha express through waking. The 2nd to 4th kosha through dream. While only 5th kosha represents the deep sleep state (dreamless sleep). Sanchita Vasanas are the sum total of vasanas. These are the vasanas that an individual is not aware of. They form the Ananda maya kosha. A part of these vasanas make the Prarabdha in a given birth. Prarabdha is what an individual goes through in life. Charts D1-D12 predominantly relate to Anna-maya kosha D13-D24 are likely to relate to Prana Maya and similarly the others D60 Shashtiamsa chart, then, relates to Ananda maya kosha. In this sense, it would show the sum of all vasanas. It shows why this Prarabhdha has come about. It would also show how the native is contributing to his sanchita through the current Prarabhdha. A shastiamsa chart will show what a native is likey to exterminate through leading the current destiny. In other words, what the native is likely to learn about the ultimate goal of life. How he/she is likely to overcome the bindings? For example, a strong Mars in Shastiamsa chart shall show the courage and determination against greed and passion. A weaker Mars shall show succumbing to desire eventually leading to adding of more vasanas. In other words, it is the ROOT of all charts. It is the cause of all charts. However, this chart is most likely to be wrong until time of birth is properly known or is corrected. This is one of the reasons why it has not been used effectively. These are my thoughts on this issue. As others have mentioned that this chart is important and a lot can be learned from it. Another point for Sri Pradeep (this came to me while I was actively reading yours and Sri Narasimha discussions on Amsas) Take the birth as an event. We cast the birth chart D-1 for the event to predict the possibility of events in the future. Within the event, a relation with its cause exists. Like within every symptom, its relation to disease exists. Similarly, within the birth chart the root cause of birthchart exists. It is purely my view (and I am prone to error) that Shastiamsa (being representative of Sanchita) is the root cause. Thanks and Regards Bharat vedic astrology, Lokesh Khosla <lokesh_khosla2000> wrote: > Narsimha, > > Hope u are doing well and your books coming along well. > I would like to know if there is any article or book which tells us how to analyze Shastyamsa? > > Could you pls help > > Lokesh > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste Manjunath, > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > Total : 10.5 points > > Please note that shashtyamsa is the highest! Shastyamsa, the chart of previous birth and sanchita karma, is not even relevant in prasna and muhurta and does not find representation in shadvarga (6 chart group) and sapta varga (7 chart group) used for those purposes. But, it is highly relevant in human charts. That's why it not only finds mention in dasa varga and shodasa varga (10 and 16 chart groups) used in human horoscopy, but gets a higher score than all other charts in those two groups! > > BTW, what you mentioned is the Shodasa varga vimsopaka bala. > > Actually, Parasara mentioned 4 varga groups and vimsopaka bala as per all the four. > > Most of the results given by Parasara in later chapters actually use dasa varga group rather than shodasa varga group. For example, vaiseshikamsas based on shodasa varga or shadvarga or sapta varga are not used that much in the yogas mentioned later. But vaiseshikamsas based on dasa varga (e.g. Parijatamsa, Gopuramsa, Simhasanamsa etc) are used more. This indicates that dasa varga is the most relevant in normal human horoscopy. Here are strengths given in that group: > > Rasi: 3.5 points > Navamsa, D-2, D-3, D-7, D-10, D-12, D-16, D-30: 1.5 points each > Shastyamsa (D-60): 5 points > > You can see that not only shashtyamsa gets a higher weightage than rasi and navamsa, but it gets a heigher weightage than rasi and navamsa combined! > > I can make one statement very confidently: Astrology, as practiced by most today, is an art and not a science. If ever astrology is established as science in future, I am confident that shashtyamsa will have a big role in that science of astrology. Without further progress in the use of shashtyamsa chart, we don't stand a chance of converting astrology into a science. With D-60 ignored, astrology will remain an art. > > Time has come for me to leave all distractions and give one final push to finish the TP book. From this Guru Pournima till Janmashtami. I will be totally off the lists. > > In a recent mail, Sabri asked to give the transliteration of all Sanskrit content of my TP book. Though I did not reply, I did notice that mail. Yes, Sabri, I'll keep that request in mind and give the transliteration of the limited Sanskrit text in the book. In my view, Sanskrit is the official language of Jyotisha and I felt bad that there was no documentation of TP in Sanskrit language, while there is so much documentation of it in English. So, for sentimental reasons, I documented TP in Sanskrit verses with the blessings of rishis and am including it as a chapter in the book. > > Happy Guru Pournima day to all of you! > > If any gurujans were offended by the intensity I showed in the recent days in the tiff with Pradeep, I apologize. I blame Mars in gandanta for it! :-) > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Panditji and others > > > > According to KN Rao ji, Parashara allocates.. > > > > Birth Horoscope : 3.5 points > > Navamsa : 3.0 points > > Shashtyamsha : 4 points (most important chart!) > > Total : 10.5 points > > > > Hora, D3, Trimshamsa : 1 point each: Shodhasmsa: 2 points > > > > All other Div charts: 0.5 points > > > > So Rasi=3.5 points > > and D9 and D10 = 3.5 points > > > > This is given in KN Rao's book (Page 101, Astrology Destiny Wheel of > > Time). > > > > So it appears that Navamsa and any other divisional chart will at > > least equal or exceed rasi chart strength. This is the most > > important take away for me. > > > > Manjunath Sharma > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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