To Pradeep/Kid/Keralite & Guru Poornima

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Dear Kid & Pradeep,

 

.... Just because someone is a Keralite, doesn't make him a

scholar. It is just plain invalid logic! I am a Keralite myself and

proud of it ... but that doesnt prove anything ... states Andhra

Pradesh and Orissa have a great history of parampara of Astrology

too!

 

Just my 2cents.

 

On another note: Yesterday we celebrated Guru Poornima at my Guru's

house Narasimha's house, first by expressing our affection in the

form of a compilation (transcripts of 45 lessons done till date) in

a book format with CD, and then participating in the Satya Narayana

Vratam.

 

Thank You Narasimha & Sanjayji!

 

Warm Regards

Narayan

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear shri Kid

>

> Thanks for your kind words.

> It is a privilige and blessing to have a lineage of learned

scholars

> showing path.

> Kind regds

> Pradeep

> vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid>

wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Now I Know for sure that you are a keralite. No wonder you

display

> deep erudition and scholarship in the ongoing debate.From

Vararuchi-

> via-- Sangamagrama Madhava-to Prof A R Rajaraja Verma to Dr KV

Sharma

> to Dr N E Muthuswami, the state of kerala had produced a lineage

of

> outstanding scholars in astrology.Initially, I mistook your

> intentions; and I am sorry for that.Now, I presume, you are a

person

> encaged in dispassionate study.Keep it up

> > Regards

> > KID

> > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear shri Kid

> >

> > I was referring to K.C.Keshavapillai author of Jyothisha

> > Gurubhoothan.Kerala.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid>

> > wrote:

> > > Pradeep,

> > > "Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about

> > > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted

from

> > > parashara too reveals the same."

> > > KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring ?

> > > Please reply

> > > KID

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > Dear respected members

> > >

> > > sutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h |

> > > evaM trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30||

> > >

> > > All of us know the importance of panchama bahava in

> > > rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is Jupiter.Thus

5th

> > > lord and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We

all

> > know

> > > where to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has

explained

> > to

> > > us the relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas for

> > > afluence.

> > >

> > > Suta bhava navamshacha is thus clearly the navamsha of 5th

lord -

> > > and shri Narasimha too agree - though he uses the word

> > > ambiguity.Now sage says similarly, see the above from

> > > trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to see the 5th lords and

> > > jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is intelligently

tilting

> > the

> > > priority.

> > >

> > > There are numerous such shlokas under jaimini sutras,

karakamsha

> > > etc,referring to aspects involving amshas.We know the

difference

> > in

> > > opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these from,ie

> > Rashi

> > > or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the

gola

> > and

> > > ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is no chance for

> > > ambiguity.I have always said by chart - we do not mean

drawing -

> > but

> > > analysis with bhavas.The word kundali does not mean we have to

see

> > > bhavas there.

> > > Parashara muni has clearly said where to see 12 Bhavas(because

he

> > > uses bhava lords along with their

navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha

> > > etc).We cannot find a single shloka where, bhava is mentioned

in

> > > vargamshas.

> > >

> > > I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was

haste.Apart

> > > from my discretion,( ofcourse within my limitations),i had

also

> > > listened to scholars like Late Santhanam(who can never be

haste

> > as

> > > he has translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao,

K.C.KeshavaPillai

> > > etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking

about

> > > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted

from

> > > parashara too reveals the same.

> > >

> > > Thus this does not stop us from answering the basic

question.The

> > > lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses from HORA

as

> > per

> > > sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as per the much

> > > praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and answer than

getting

> > > over with intelligent interpretations.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

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> > >

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> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

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Dear Shri Iyer

 

Being a keralite doesnt prove anything.Neither being from any other.I

feel knowledge has no name or boundary.

I feel in his first mail Kid did not write off knowledge from any

other state.He was just proud about his heritage.Kindly read his first

mail.I feel one can be proud about his/her paramapara unless he

belittle others.

 

Thus it was not necessary for you to aggravate an environment of

regionalism ,which is not good for anyone,even if it helps you to

devalue the debated points based on parasharas teachings.i have

debated what i have felt based on facts.I do not want all the hard

work i have done to be lost between regionalism and similar emotions.I

feel being the list moderator you are aware of this better than me.

 

Kind regds

Pradeep

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

<jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

> Dear Kid & Pradeep,

>

> .... Just because someone is a Keralite, doesn't make him a

> scholar. It is just plain invalid logic! I am a Keralite myself and

> proud of it ... but that doesnt prove anything ... states Andhra

> Pradesh and Orissa have a great history of parampara of Astrology

> too!

>

> Just my 2cents.

>

> On another note: Yesterday we celebrated Guru Poornima at my Guru's

> house Narasimha's house, first by expressing our affection in the

> form of a compilation (transcripts of 45 lessons done till date) in

> a book format with CD, and then participating in the Satya Narayana

> Vratam.

>

> Thank You Narasimha & Sanjayji!

>

> Warm Regards

> Narayan

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear shri Kid

> >

> > Thanks for your kind words.

> > It is a privilige and blessing to have a lineage of learned

> scholars

> > showing path.

> > Kind regds

> > Pradeep

> > vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > Now I Know for sure that you are a keralite. No wonder you

> display

> > deep erudition and scholarship in the ongoing debate.From

> Vararuchi-

> > via-- Sangamagrama Madhava-to Prof A R Rajaraja Verma to Dr KV

> Sharma

> > to Dr N E Muthuswami, the state of kerala had produced a lineage

> of

> > outstanding scholars in astrology.Initially, I mistook your

> > intentions; and I am sorry for that.Now, I presume, you are a

> person

> > encaged in dispassionate study.Keep it up

> > > Regards

> > > KID

> > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > Dear shri Kid

> > >

> > > I was referring to K.C.Keshavapillai author of Jyothisha

> > > Gurubhoothan.Kerala.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Pradeep,

> > > > "Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about

> > > > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted

> from

> > > > parashara too reveals the same."

> > > > KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring ?

> > > > Please reply

> > > > KID

> > > >

> > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > Dear respected members

> > > >

> > > > sutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h |

> > > > evaM trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30||

> > > >

> > > > All of us know the importance of panchama bahava in

> > > > rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is Jupiter.Thus

> 5th

> > > > lord and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We

> all

> > > know

> > > > where to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has

> explained

> > > to

> > > > us the relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas for

> > > > afluence.

> > > >

> > > > Suta bhava navamshacha is thus clearly the navamsha of 5th

> lord -

> > > > and shri Narasimha too agree - though he uses the word

> > > > ambiguity.Now sage says similarly, see the above from

> > > > trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to see the 5th lords and

> > > > jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is intelligently

> tilting

> > > the

> > > > priority.

> > > >

> > > > There are numerous such shlokas under jaimini sutras,

> karakamsha

> > > > etc,referring to aspects involving amshas.We know the

> difference

> > > in

> > > > opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these from,ie

> > > Rashi

> > > > or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the

> gola

> > > and

> > > > ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is no chance for

> > > > ambiguity.I have always said by chart - we do not mean

> drawing -

> > > but

> > > > analysis with bhavas.The word kundali does not mean we have to

> see

> > > > bhavas there.

> > > > Parashara muni has clearly said where to see 12 Bhavas(because

> he

> > > > uses bhava lords along with their

> navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha

> > > > etc).We cannot find a single shloka where, bhava is mentioned

> in

> > > > vargamshas.

> > > >

> > > > I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was

> haste.Apart

> > > > from my discretion,( ofcourse within my limitations),i had

> also

> > > > listened to scholars like Late Santhanam(who can never be

> haste

> > > as

> > > > he has translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao,

> K.C.KeshavaPillai

> > > > etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking

> about

> > > > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted

> from

> > > > parashara too reveals the same.

> > > >

> > > > Thus this does not stop us from answering the basic

> question.The

> > > > lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses from HORA

> as

> > > per

> > > > sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as per the much

> > > > praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and answer than

> getting

> > > > over with intelligent interpretations.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > > >

> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > >

> > > >

> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > >

> > > > Terms

> of

> > > Service.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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