Swamsa, Lagnamsa and Karakamsa (Combinations for astrologers)

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Dear sir,

 

In my navamsa, karakamsa is gemini (with venus (atmakaraka) and

exalted mercury in that) and lagnamsa is capricorn (with exalted

mars) in it. It is like 6/8th position what you interpreted. But the

lagna lord (saturn) is in Danus aspecting the karakamsa (gemini).

saturn aspect on karakamsa makes me spiritual success?. My navamsa

lagna lord (saturn) is also lagna lord/12th house lord in rasi

placed in gemini (in rasi).

 

Expecting ur kind reply sir

 

 

sincerely

 

A. M. Shanmugharaj

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste Doug,

>

> > What is Swampsa?

> >

> > doug riemer

>

> Amsa means "division" and refers to the position in a divisional

charts - navamsa usually. So lagnamsa is the position of lagna in

navamsa. Karakamsa is the position of atma karaka (variable

significator of self) in navamsa. Atma karaka is the planet (out of

seven planets and Rahu) with the largest advancement in the rasi

occupied. For Rahu, advancement is measured from the end of the

sign. Let us take an example.

>

> Body Longitude

>

> Lagna 7 Aq 26' 00.69"

> Sun 26 Aq 02' 48.83"

> Moon 3 Ge 51' 59.65"

> Mars 1 Ta 53' 19.80"

> Mercury 16 Aq 32' 56.39"

> Jupiter ® 4 Vi 37' 58.82"

> Venus 17 Aq 04' 18.34"

> Saturn 20 Sc 54' 58.50"

> Rahu 29 Li 52' 33.46"

> Ketu 29 Ar 52' 33.46"

>

> If you look at the advancement in rasi, Sun has 26 deg 3 min. Moon

has 3 deg 52 min. Though Rahu is at 29Li52, his advancement (from

the end) is only 8 minutes (30-0 minus 29-52). of the eight planets,

Sun has the largest advancement and becomes atma karaka (AK).

>

> Let us take this native's navamsa:

>

> +--------------+

> |Ven |AL |Sun |Rah Glk |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |Mer JupR | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------| Navamsa |-----------|

> |Mar Sat | |GL |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |Asc Ket |Moo | |HL Mnd |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> +--------------+

>

> Navamsa

> +--------------+

> | \ Sat / \ / |

> | \ Mar / \ Moo / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Ket \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> |Mer JupR x Asc x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ 9 / Mnd \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Ven x HL |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Glk \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> |AL x Rah x GL |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Sun \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> +--------------+

> | \ | | / |

> | \ | AL | / |

> | \ | | / |

> | Rah \ Sun | | Ven / Mer |

> | \ | | / |

> | Glk \ | | / JupR |

> | \ | | / |

> |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> | | | |

> | | | Mar Sat |

> | | | |

> | | Navamsa | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> | / | | \ |

> | / | | \ Ket |

> | / | | \ |

> | GL / HL | | Moo \ Asc |

> | / | | \ |

> | / Mnd | | \ |

> | / | | \ |

> +---------------+---------------+---------------+

>

> In navamsa, lagna is in Sg. So Sg becomes lagnamsa. AK in this

chart is Sun and he is in Ta in navamsa. So karakamsa is in Ta.

>

> Swa simply means "self" and may refer to either lagna or atma

karaka. So swamsa refers the position of either lagna or atmakaraka

in navamsa. Parasara used "swamsa" for both lagnamsa and karakamsa.

So swamsa here is in Sg or Ta, depending on what we mean.

>

> What do they both show?

>

> Navamsa shows the inner self, sense of dharma (duty) and

motivation. It shows attitudes. Analysis of navamsa w.r.t. lagnamsa

shows the motivation and attitudes of the person. Analysis of

navamsa w.r.t. karakamsa shows the motivation and attitudes of the

soul that's inside a person. If the person is acting against the

wishes of the soul, it leads to inner turmoil and results in a life

that is wasted (soul has to take birth again and *start from

scratch* to fulfill its desires). If lagnamsa and karakamsa are in

mutual shashthashtakas (6th/8th positions), this happens.

>

> In the above example chart, this happens. So the native leads a

miserable and wasteful life (from the point of view of soul).

>

> Analysis from Karakamsa:

>

> Jupiter and Mercury in the 10th house of karma show a soul that

wants to be learned and scholarly in traditional subjects and put

the learning to the use of society. Malefics Saturn and Mars in 9th

show a soul that wants knowledge of tantras, yantras and taamasik

rituals. Exalted Ketu in 8th from karakamsa shows desire of the soul

for occult knowledge.

>

> Analysis from Lagnamsa:

>

> Ketu in 1st shows a spiritual person or a revolutionary/thief.

Here, in this navamsa, Ketu is in Rakshasa (demonic) group. So Ketu

in lagnamsa shows a thief or a terrorist. Exalted 6th lord shows

strong sense of enmity. Saturn and Mars in Manushya (human) group in

2nd from lagnamsa show a person who cannot speak fluently (may have

some kind of stammering - Ketu in 2nd gives full stammering).

Mercury and Jupiter in 3rd show an author and a soft-spoken person.

>

> As you can see, what his soul wants is different from what he is

doing. Without the soul being happy, one cannot have complete

success. Finally the life will go waste and the soul will start from

scratch in the next life.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha