To Mark Kincad: Mars in the 8th house clarification

> > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja

> > dosha and what if one has it?what are the

> > precautions to be taken?

> >

> > Dear suneel ji and other members,

> > what if a person has the

> > following in his chart,

> > At lagna-sun,ven

> > 2nd house-mer

> > 3rd house-jup

> > 4th house-sat,rahu

> > 7th house-moon

> > 10th house-ket

> > 12th house-mars

> > According to you if this is taken as an example this

> > native has kuja dosha, and it is also said that if

> > one has mars in 12th house it is very good and

> > strong for the chart.What you have to say, please do

> > reply.

> > with regards

> > v.suresh babu

> >

> > suneel sitaula <astrologernepal> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN NATAL

> > CHART IF MARS IS

> > OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH & TWELVETH

> > ,THAT IS CALLED

> > KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON HAS A

> > KUJA DOSH IN HIS

> > CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN FEMALE

> > CHART , HE WILL BE

> > FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO

> > OCCUPIED BY SATUEN .

> > KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN REMOVE

> > DOSH OF MARS

> > REGARDS

> > SUNEEL SITAULA

> > KATMANDU NEPAL

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August 25, 2005

Hi Twinkle and other respected members,

I have a native - a married lady with the following

combination

LAgna - Taurus,

Mars and Sun in Sagi in 8th house ( mars is combust ,

MArs at 11 and Sun at 3 ,both in Mula)

Jupiter and Moon - In cancer in 3 rd house- Jupiter is

Retro

Rahu and Saturn in Leo in the 4th house, ketu in 10th

Venus in Libra in the 6th house ( venus is lagnesh )

Mercury in Scorpio in 7th.

She also has Mars Neecha in Navamsa Lagna ( in Cancer)

and Saturn the yogakaraka is oocha in Navamsa in the

4th house with Mercury.

The birth details are as follows,

DOB: 19/12/78 , PlaceOB - Muzaffarpur Bihar,TOB :4.24

pm

What can the effects be of such a Mars?

Best Regards

Nilesh

--- Twinkle Vijaywargiya

<mrs_vijaywargiya wrote:

hello nilesh

i think overall planetray positions should also be

taken into account

before reaching to any conclusion .if mars is placed

in 8th house

without any aspect or conjunction of benefic planets

or is

debilitated,then mars in 8th house as kuja dosha gives

full result

and native will be shortlived unless there are other

alleviating

factors,may suffer loss of spouse,bad for marital

happiness ,few

children etc.

however if a strong benefic is present in 9th house

then this dosha

get cancelled.

other learned members can enlighten you more on this

topic:)

regards

twinkle

--- nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 wrote:

Hi Mark, Ram ,Devika and others,

What is the effect of having MArs in the 8th as a kuja

dosha?

BEst Regards

Nilesh

--- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman wrote:

> hey mark it has been long talk to you

> MY WIFE MAR IS NOT IN 12TH BUT SHE OVERSPEND AND I

> KEEP ON LOOKING A WAY TO BRING MORE MONEY

> WELL RECENTLY HER RIGHT KNEE IS IN PAIN AND SHE CANT

> GO UOT AND SPEND BUT RESTLESS TO GET AWAY FROM HOME

> I AM KIND TO HER BUT THINK GOD MUST HAVE RESTAINED

> HER TO STOP SPENDING

> MY MAR AND VENUS TOGETHER IN 4TH

> HER DOB IS JAN 9 1952

> PITTUSBURG SCORPIO RISING I THINK

> EXALTED MOON IN 7TH HOUSE

> SAT IN 6TH JUPITOR 5TH

> HOW LONG SHE HAS TO BE IN PAIN I AM TIRED TO TAKE

> HER EVERYWHERE

> SHE RESENT STAYING HOME TOO.

> RAM

> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

> There you go....

>

> Thanks for letting me know...

>

> Mark

>

> Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon

> Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT)

> m.kincaid

> To Mark Kincad: Mars in the 12th house

> clarification

>

> Dear Mark,

> We exchanged emails regarding Mars in the 12th

> house some time ago, where I stated that I had read

> on one of the sites that Mars is a blessing in the

> 12th for Aries ascendant. I found the site

>

> but I remembered wrong. The site actually states

> that "This is the only Lagna where it’s great if the

> 2nd lord is in the 12th; this isn’t the case with

> any other Lagna." Which means, Venus is a blessing

> to be in the 12th and not Mars. The chart that I was

> looking at, at that time has Venus and Mars in the

> 12th and so there was a confusion in remembering.

> Just wanted to clarify this with you.

>

> Devika.

>

> Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon wrote:

> Dear Mark,

> I have read on one of the sites that Mars is a

> blessing in the 12th house for Aries Ascendant. Is

> this true?

>

> Thanks,

> Devika

>

> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

> Dear Suresh:

>

> Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of Mars.

>

> Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the

> dramas and imbalances of the 12th house,

> this would be fairly negative.

>

> Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures of

> money and energy, and people, do

> to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending too

> much money.... suffer a lot of debt and

> grief due to MARS here.

>

> Personally, I have never heard Mars described as

> having much positive characteristics in the 12th,

> unless it's in either it's Own sign or Exalted.

>

> though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and that

> only contributed to her incessent need,

> and expression to spend!

>

> She had all the best reasons why she had to spend,

> but all of them, only lead, to our greater

> financial ruin.

>

> Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house, and

> I obviously deserved her,....

> though I had changed my poor spending ways, from my

> past, due to great unhappinesses,

> due to over spending...or under saving....

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

> ps... please include the dob info. so we can verify

> their chart, just in case.

>

> Also, there rising sign, if you know it.

>

> pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you send

> back the exact degrees of this chart...

>

> "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug

> Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja

> dosha and what if one has it?what are the

> precautions to be taken?

>

> Dear suneel ji and other members,

> what if a person has the

> following in his chart,

> At lagna-sun,ven

> 2nd house-mer

> 3rd house-jup

> 4th house-sat,rahu

> 7th house-moon

> 10th house-ket

> 12th house-mars

> According to you if this is taken as an example this

> native has kuja dosha, and it is also said that if

> one has mars in 12th house it is very good and

> strong for the chart.What you have to say, please do

> reply.

> with regards

> v.suresh babu

>

> suneel sitaula <astrologernepal wrote:

>

> DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN NATAL

> CHART IF MARS IS

> OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH & TWELVETH

> ,THAT IS CALLED

> KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON HAS A

> KUJA DOSH IN HIS

> CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN FEMALE

> CHART , HE WILL BE

> FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO

> OCCUPIED BY SATUEN .

> KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN REMOVE

> DOSH OF MARS

> REGARDS

> SUNEEL SITAULA

> KATMANDU NEPAL

>

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August 25, 2005

Hi Group,

Could someone clalirfy whether kuja dosh is exempted when Mars

(lagna lord) is in 7th. I mean this is kuja dosha but Mars being the

Lagna lord ...is this really a kuja dosha and do the effects like

spouse being short lived and sickly manifest. Is there a age beyond

which this dosha is not applicable.

Regards,

Mike

vedic astrology, Rampaul Verma

<rampaulman> wrote:

> hi nilesh

> mar in 8th indicate trouble in marriage

> so wait till at least 28 yr and try to understan the anger and the

other partner

> see moon is cool.

> raj

>

> nilesh joshi <niljoshi27> wrote:

> Hi Mark, Ram ,Devika and others,

>

> What is the effect of having MArs in the 8th as a kuja

> dosha?

>

> BEst Regards

>

> Nilesh

>

> --- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman> wrote:

>

> > hey mark it has been long talk to you

> > MY WIFE MAR IS NOT IN 12TH BUT SHE OVERSPEND AND I

> > KEEP ON LOOKING A WAY TO BRING MORE MONEY

> > WELL RECENTLY HER RIGHT KNEE IS IN PAIN AND SHE CANT

> > GO UOT AND SPEND BUT RESTLESS TO GET AWAY FROM HOME

> > I AM KIND TO HER BUT THINK GOD MUST HAVE RESTAINED

> > HER TO STOP SPENDING

> > MY MAR AND VENUS TOGETHER IN 4TH

> > HER DOB IS JAN 9 1952

> > PITTUSBURG SCORPIO RISING I THINK

> > EXALTED MOON IN 7TH HOUSE

> > SAT IN 6TH JUPITOR 5TH

> > HOW LONG SHE HAS TO BE IN PAIN I AM TIRED TO TAKE

> > HER EVERYWHERE

> > SHE RESENT STAYING HOME TOO.

> > RAM

> > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > There you go....

> >

> > Thanks for letting me know...

> >

> > Mark

> >

> > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon>

> > Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT)

> > m.kincaid@m...

> > To Mark Kincad: Mars in the 12th house

> > clarification

> >

> > Dear Mark,

> > We exchanged emails regarding Mars in the 12th

> > house some time ago, where I stated that I had read

> > on one of the sites that Mars is a blessing in the

> > 12th for Aries ascendant. I found the site

> >

>

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004_06_30_varahamihira_archive.html

,

> > but I remembered wrong. The site actually states

> > that "This is the only Lagna where it's great if the

> > 2nd lord is in the 12th; this isn't the case with

> > any other Lagna." Which means, Venus is a blessing

> > to be in the 12th and not Mars. The chart that I was

> > looking at, at that time has Venus and Mars in the

> > 12th and so there was a confusion in remembering.

> > Just wanted to clarify this with you.

> >

> > Devika.

> >

> > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > Dear Mark,

> > I have read on one of the sites that Mars is a

> > blessing in the 12th house for Aries Ascendant. Is

> > this true?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Devika

> >

> > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Suresh:

> >

> > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of Mars.

> >

> > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the

> > dramas and imbalances of the 12th house,

> > this would be fairly negative.

> >

> > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures of

> > money and energy, and people, do

> > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending too

> > much money.... suffer a lot of debt and

> > grief due to MARS here.

> >

> > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as

> > having much positive characteristics in the 12th,

> > unless it's in either it's Own sign or Exalted.

> >

> > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and that

> > only contributed to her incessent need,

> > and expression to spend!

> >

> > She had all the best reasons why she had to spend,

> > but all of them, only lead, to our greater

> > financial ruin.

> >

> > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house, and

> > I obviously deserved her,....

> > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from my

> > past, due to great unhappinesses,

> > due to over spending...or under saving....

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> > ps... please include the dob info. so we can verify

> > their chart, just in case.

> >

> > Also, there rising sign, if you know it.

> >

> > pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you send

> > back the exact degrees of this chart...

> >

> > "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug>

> > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja

> > dosha and what if one has it?what are the

> > precautions to be taken?

> >

> > Dear suneel ji and other members,

> > what if a person has the

> > following in his chart,

> > At lagna-sun,ven

> > 2nd house-mer

> > 3rd house-jup

> > 4th house-sat,rahu

> > 7th house-moon

> > 10th house-ket

> > 12th house-mars

> > According to you if this is taken as an example this

> > native has kuja dosha, and it is also said that if

> > one has mars in 12th house it is very good and

> > strong for the chart.What you have to say, please do

> > reply.

> > with regards

> > v.suresh babu

> >

> > suneel sitaula <astrologernepal> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN NATAL

> > CHART IF MARS IS

> > OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH & TWELVETH

> > ,THAT IS CALLED

> > KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON HAS A

> > KUJA DOSH IN HIS

> > CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN FEMALE

> > CHART , HE WILL BE

> > FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO

> > OCCUPIED BY SATUEN .

> > KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN REMOVE

> > DOSH OF MARS

> > REGARDS

> > SUNEEL SITAULA

> > KATMANDU NEPAL

> >

> > Archives:

> >

> > Group info:

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> >

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