Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I have seen that in some of the previous mails a debate on 'whether to apply Nabhasa yogas on divisional charts or not?' was going on. Several gurus are quoted but none seemed to discuss the issue in its theoretical and historical perspective. Some of my humble observations are given below. Nabhasa Yoga ============ These yogas can give results in any desa. We cannot say that only in this or that particular desa a Nabhasa yoga will give result. This is the opinion of acharyas like Varaha Mihira. Nabhasa yogas are not related to any particular planet. Desa and Gochara are related to planets that serve as the significator of something. Nabhasa yogas are not related to any particular planet and that is why based on Desa or Gochara we cannot locate the period in which these yogas will become fruitful. Because of this fundamental flaw it is not right to give Nabhasa yogas more importance than it deserves. Nabhasa yogas are classified into four. They are- 1) Akrithi yogas (Told by: Kausika hora, Gargi hora, Brihat prajapathyam) 2) Sankhya yogas (Told by: Brihat prajapathyam) 3) Asraya yogas (Told by: Sathyacharya) 4) Dela yogas (Told by: Parasara) All these yogas are related to the thought 'what special prediction should be given if the planets are in 1 sign, 2 signs, 3 signs etc'. If these signs happen to be kendra, trikona, panapara, apoklima, chara, sthira, ubhaya some thought that special importance should be given. Even though first indicated by Rishi horas, the Yavanacharyas are the one who gave this system this much propaganda. By permutation combination they have increased the number of Nabhasa yogas to 1800. 1) Akrithi yogas ------------- Gada, Sakata, Vihaga (Antaja), Sringataka, Hala, Vajra, Yava, Abja (Kamala), Vapi, Uoopa, Ishu, Sakthi, Denda, Nou, Koota, Cathra, Chapa, Samudra, Chathra etc. All these yogas are produced as a result of Bhava-Planet combination. 2) Sankhya yogas ------------- Vallaki, Dama, Pasa, Kedara, Soola, Yuga, Gola. These are produced as a result of Sign-Planet combination. 3) Asraya yogas ------------- Ranju, Musala, Nala. These are produced as a result of Sign-Planet combination. 4) Dela yogas ------------- Srek, Sarpa. These are produced as a result of Bhava-Planet combination. These yogas and the hundreds of other yogas the names of which are not mentioned, all comes under the simple and fundamental rules of Bhava-Planet combination and Sign-Planet combination. Every learned astrologer know that almost the whole astrology (or all the yogas mentioned in astrology) comes under the classifications and results generated by: 1) Sign 2) Bhava 3) Planet 4) Sign-Planet combination 5) Bhava-Planet combination 6) Sign-Bhava combination 7) Sign-Bhava-Planet combination If you systematically study these classifications and the results generated by them, then the whole astrology is almost over! Look at this sloka of Vashishtahora- Stanato bhavathaH khetaiH stanabhavanabhascharai Stanabhava samayogat bhavakhechara yogathaH Yogasyu shadvidha sthanakhecharabhyam to sapthadhaH stanabhavagrehaiproktha yoga ye yogahethava Meaning, 'the combinations can be classified into 7. They are 1) Sign 2) Bhava 3) Planet 4) Sign-Planet 5) Bhava-Planet 6) Sign-Bhava and 7) Sign-Bhava-Planet'. Why this 7-fold classification is important? I will explain. 1) Sign All the results I predict based on the classification and qualities of signs such as Chara, Agneya, Gramya etc comes under this. 2) Bhava If the lord of the 6th house is in 7th, I predict something. All such results come under this. 3) Planet If Sun-Moon, guru-Satern etc are together I predict something. All such 2 planet, 3 planet etc combinations and the corresponding results comes under this. 4) Sign-Planet If Sun is in Aris I predict something. All such 'Asraya rasi phala' comes under this. 5) Bhava-Planet If Jupiter is in 5th house I predict something. All such 'bhava phala' comes under this. 6) Bhava-Planet If Ge comes as the 3rd house I predict something. All such results come under this. 7) Sign-Bhava-Planet If mercury is in 7th house that happens to be Ge then I predict something. All such results come under this. Nabhasa yogas do not give importance to this fundamental principle (theoretical foundation) and the Desa-Gochara constraints. This is deviation from the fundamentals! When all the yogas that are considered as Nabhasa yogas and all other yogas falls within the above said seven-fold classification, why this separate naming as 'Nabhasa yogas'? It is a system created based on a bit of theory (without considering the total picture) and that is why impossible/improbable yogas like Vajra that speaks about the position of Mercury in the 4th house from sun comes under the category of Nabhasa yogas. Many acharyas tells us that as these Nabhasa yogas comes under the classification Sign-planet/Bhava-Planet combinations, it is not important that we should learn them separately. So I will ask you not to give importance to Nabhasa yogas in natal charts or divisional charts and go back to the ancient, fundamental, and theoretically perfect system of seven-fold classification!! Predictions related to all Nabhasa yogas are actually the ones that come within the above said 7-fold classification and thus for sure related to Desa and Gochara. Therefore Nabhasa yoga is a sure deviation from the fundamentals. Yavanacharya and the like have increased the number of Nabhasa yogas to 1800 by just applying the permutation combination principles. If one is trying to predict all results (related to Sign-Planet and Bhava-planet combinations) based on the Nabhasa yogas then what is the use of whole astrology? Therefore I would urge the learners not to apply Nabhasa yogas not only in divisional charts but also in natal charts!! With warm regards, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I vaguely remember that in one of the Nadi readings of a chart the Rshi concerned made a reference to Damini Yogam.My memory may also be wrong.Possibly, we are yet unable to locate the place and true significance of the applications of "Nabhasa Yogas".You may kindly pardon my intervention if my above said observation is quite wrong. Regards, jagannathan. On 10/3/05, Sreenadh <sreelid > wrote: I have seen that in some of the previous mails a debate on 'whether to apply Nabhasa yogas on divisional charts or not?' was going on. Several gurus are quoted but none seemed to discuss the issue in its theoretical and historical perspective. Some of my humble observations are given below.Nabhasa Yoga============These yogas can give results in any desa. We cannot say that only in this or that particular desa a Nabhasa yoga will give result. This is the opinion of acharyas like Varaha Mihira. Nabhasa yogas are not related to any particular planet. Desa and Gochara are related to planets that serve as the significator of something. Nabhasa yogas are not related to any particular planet and that is why based on Desa or Gochara we cannot locate the period in which these yogas will become fruitful. Because of this fundamental flaw it is not right to give Nabhasa yogas more importance than it deserves.Nabhasa yogas are classified into four. They are-1) Akrithi yogas (Told by: Kausika hora, Gargi hora, Brihat prajapathyam)2) Sankhya yogas (Told by: Brihat prajapathyam) 3) Asraya yogas (Told by: Sathyacharya)4) Dela yogas (Told by: Parasara)All these yogas are related to the thought 'what special prediction should be given if the planets are in 1 sign, 2 signs, 3 signs etc'. If these signs happen to be kendra, trikona, panapara, apoklima, chara, sthira, ubhaya some thought that special importance should be given. Even though first indicated by Rishi horas, the Yavanacharyas are the one who gave this system this much propaganda. By permutation combination they have increased the number of Nabhasa yogas to 1800.1) Akrithi yogas ------------- Gada, Sakata, Vihaga (Antaja), Sringataka, Hala, Vajra, Yava, Abja (Kamala), Vapi, Uoopa, Ishu, Sakthi, Denda, Nou, Koota, Cathra, Chapa, Samudra, Chathra etc. All these yogas are produced as a result of Bhava-Planet combination.2) Sankhya yogas ------------- Vallaki, Dama, Pasa, Kedara, Soola, Yuga, Gola. These are produced as a result of Sign-Planet combination. 3) Asraya yogas ------------- Ranju, Musala, Nala. These are produced as a result of Sign-Planet combination.4) Dela yogas ------------- Srek, Sarpa. These are produced as a result of Bhava-Planet combination. These yogas and the hundreds of other yogas the names of which are not mentioned, all comes under the simple and fundamental rules of Bhava-Planet combination and Sign-Planet combination. Every learned astrologer know that almost the whole astrology (or all the yogas mentioned in astrology) comes under the classifications and results generated by:1) Sign2) Bhava3) Planet4) Sign-Planet combination 5) Bhava-Planet combination6) Sign-Bhava combination7) Sign-Bhava-Planet combinationIf you systematically study these classifications and the results generated by them, then the whole astrology is almost over! Look at this sloka of Vashishtahora-Stanato bhavathaH khetaiH stanabhavanabhascharaiStanabhava samayogat bhavakhechara yogathaHYogasyu shadvidha sthanakhecharabhyam to sapthadhaHstanabhavagrehaiproktha yoga ye yogahethava Meaning, 'the combinations can be classified into 7. They are 1) Sign 2) Bhava 3) Planet 4) Sign-Planet 5) Bhava-Planet 6) Sign-Bhava and 7) Sign-Bhava-Planet'.Why this 7-fold classification is important? I will explain. 1) Sign All the results I predict based on the classification and qualities of signs such as Chara, Agneya, Gramya etc comes under this.2) Bhava If the lord of the 6th house is in 7th, I predict something. All such results come under this.3) Planet If Sun-Moon, guru-Satern etc are together I predict something. All such 2 planet, 3 planet etc combinations and the corresponding results comes under this.4) Sign-Planet If Sun is in Aris I predict something. All such 'Asraya rasi phala' comes under this.5) Bhava-Planet If Jupiter is in 5th house I predict something. All such 'bhava phala' comes under this.6) Bhava-Planet If Ge comes as the 3rd house I predict something. All such results come under this.7) Sign-Bhava-Planet If mercury is in 7th house that happens to be Ge then I predict something. All such results come under this. Nabhasa yogas do not give importance to this fundamental principle (theoretical foundation) and the Desa-Gochara constraints. This is deviation from the fundamentals! When all the yogas that are considered as Nabhasa yogas and all other yogas falls within the above said seven-fold classification, why this separate naming as 'Nabhasa yogas'? It is a system created based on a bit of theory (without considering the total picture) and that is why impossible/improbable yogas like Vajra that speaks about the position of Mercury in the 4th house from sun comes under the category of Nabhasa yogas. Many acharyas tells us that as these Nabhasa yogas comes under the classification Sign-planet/Bhava-Planet combinations, it is not important that we should learn them separately. So I will ask you not to give importance to Nabhasa yogas in natal charts or divisional charts and go back to the ancient, fundamental, and theoretically perfect system of seven-fold classification!! Predictions related to all Nabhasa yogas are actually the ones that come within the above said 7-fold classification and thus for sure related to Desa and Gochara. Therefore Nabhasa yoga is a sure deviation from the fundamentals. Yavanacharya and the like have increased the number of Nabhasa yogas to 1800 by just applying the permutation combination principles. If one is trying to predict all results (related to Sign-Planet and Bhava-planet combinations) based on the Nabhasa yogas then what is the use of whole astrology? Therefore I would urge the learners not to apply Nabhasa yogas not only in divisional charts but also in natal charts!!With warm regards,SreenadhArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.html || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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