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Long time back I read somebody commenting on Dr B V Raman's statement

that the predictions based on Tajik many times do not come out true (btw, I do

not remember the exact wording). The commentator was of the view that the Tajik

is valid only for the saayana zodiac and not the nirayana one.

 

Any comments ?

 

Thanks and regards.

Narayan Prasad

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Dear Narayana,

 

We all know, the Tajik (Solar Return, i.e. Varshphal)

forecasting technique mainly hinges upon the special

14 planetary combinations (yogas), muntha, sahams etc.

 

 

I beg to disagree to the hypothesis that Tajik is only

reliable for tropical zodiac.

 

Firstly because of the fact that said 14 yogas

(sometime count 16 – when Ittesaal yoga is divided

into 3 types) depend on the longitudinal distance

between planet(s) rather sign occupation. Its mean

whether you take tropical or sidereal zodiac (or any

ayanamsa) the formation of 14 yogas can not be

changed. So as the Muntha position in certain house

for every year. Obviously sign position may vary and

annual dasha as well.

 

Secondly, we have uncountable references of the

Jyotish practitioners (both renowned and amateur) that

have been used Tajik Varshaphal (with niryana zodiac)

for many decades and made successful predictions.

 

Thirdly, the Tajik system propagated by Arabs, is

actually an amalgam of ancient Indian Jyotish

technique (Sudarshan Chakra) and Greek aspect

methodology.

 

The confusing element is that the medieval sources

written by Iranian and central Asian Muslims used

tropical (sayana) zodiac while the Indian commentators

of Tajik System (NeelKanth, Surdasa etc) used sidereal

(niryana) zodiac.

 

The simple acid test is your own and relatives charts.

Test both sidereal and tropical zodiac on varshphala

and conclude logical result.

 

Regards,

M. Imran

 

 

 

--- narayan prasad <prasad_cwprs wrote:

 

> Dear members,

>

> Long time back I read somebody commenting on

> Dr B V Raman's statement that the predictions based

> on Tajik many times do not come out true (btw, I do

> not remember the exact wording). The commentator was

> of the view that the Tajik is valid only for the

> saayana zodiac and not the nirayana one.

>

> Any comments ?

>

> Thanks and regards.

> Narayan Prasad

>

>

>

> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've

> developed the all new Security Centre.

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Imran jii,

 

salaamo alaikum !

 

Thanks a lot for your kind reply.

 

Your following piece of information was esp. interesting for me.

 

<<The confusing element is that the medieval sources written by Iranian and

central Asian Muslims used tropical (sayana) zodiac while the Indian

commentators of Tajik System (NeelKanth, Surdasa etc) used sidereal(niryana)

zodiac. >>

 

Thanks again.

 

Regards.

Narayan Prasad

"M.Imran" <astroimran > wrote:

Dear Narayana,We all know, the Tajik (Solar Return, i.e. Varshphal)forecasting

technique mainly hinges upon the special14 planetary combinations (yogas),

muntha, sahams etc.I beg to disagree to the hypothesis that Tajik is

onlyreliable for tropical zodiac.Firstly because of the fact that said 14

yogas(sometime count 16 – when Ittesaal yoga is dividedinto 3 types) depend on

the longitudinal distancebetween planet(s) rather sign occupation. Its

meanwhether you take tropical or sidereal zodiac (or anyayanamsa) the formation

of 14 yogas can not bechanged. So as the Muntha position in certain housefor

every year. Obviously sign position may vary andannual dasha as well.Secondly,

we have uncountable references of theJyotish practitioners (both renowned and

amateur) thathave been used Tajik Varshaphal

(with niryana zodiac)for many decades and made successful predictions. Thirdly,

the Tajik system propagated by Arabs, isactually an amalgam of ancient Indian

Jyotishtechnique (Sudarshan Chakra) and Greek aspectmethodology. The confusing

element is that the medieval sourceswritten by Iranian and central Asian

Muslims usedtropical (sayana) zodiac while the Indian commentatorsof Tajik

System (NeelKanth, Surdasa etc) used sidereal(niryana) zodiac.The simple acid

test is your own and relatives charts.Test both sidereal and tropical zodiac on

varshphalaand conclude logical result.Regards,M. Imran--- narayan prasad wrote:>

Dear members,> > Long time back I read somebody commenting on> Dr B V Raman's

statement that the predictions based> on Tajik many times do not come out true

(btw, I do> not remember the exact wording). The

commentator was> of the view that the Tajik is valid only for the> saayana

zodiac and not the nirayana one.> > Any comments ?> > Thanks and regards.>

Narayan Prasad

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