Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Namaste friends, Sometime back, I wrote a few observations on what dasas and transits can bring Kundalini experiences. A few days back, I found another reliable example. Unfortunately, the birthdata is confidential and I cannot share it. But I will share some pointers to help fellow Jyotishis interested in Kundalini. This person had a Kundalini experience when the 12th lord of natal rasi chart was exactly transiting over the natal lagna lord (within half degree). Ketu was also transiting a few degrees away! In a previous example I referred to, Ketu was transiting close to lagna when Kundalini woke up and started rising. Here it was lagna lord. In his D-20, this person had an exchange between the lagna lord and 8th lord (i.e. lagna lord in 8th and 8th lord in lagna)! As you may know, D-20 shows spiritual experiences. I pointed out earlier that 8th house and A8 in D-20 are important for Kundalini. After all, Kundalini experience is like a temporary death. The person's first Kundalini experience was in the dasa of 8th lord, antardasa of lagna lord, pratyantardasa of 8th lord and sooksha-antardasa of lagna lord!! Thus, the exchange between lagna lord and 8th lord gave its result fully. The simultaneous transit of 12th lord and Ketu over lagna lord helped. I trust this person and don't think he was making it up. In fact, he did not mention it to me by himself. Only when I enquired if he had a Kundalini experience at that time did he reveal that he had a Kundalini experience. I trust him. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 You have told when 12th lord transiting over the lagna lord, kundalini woke up. what happens when lagna lord and 12th lord are one and the same. Also, in natal chart, ketu is within 7 degree from lagna lord (who is also 12th lord). This person has mutual exchange of 4th lord (mars, who is also 9th lord) with 8th lord (jupiter, who is also fifth lord) in D-20 chart. Ascendent in D-20, Leo sign with sun present in capricorn. Thanking you sincerely Shanmugharaj "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends, Sometime back, I wrote a few observations on what dasas and transits can bring Kundalini experiences. A few days back, I found another reliable example. Unfortunately, the birthdata is confidential and I cannot share it. But I will share some pointers to help fellow Jyotishis interested in Kundalini. This person had a Kundalini experience when the 12th lord of natal rasi chart was exactly transiting over the natal lagna lord (within half degree). Ketu was also transiting a few degrees away! In a previous example I referred to, Ketu was transiting close to lagna when Kundalini woke up and started rising. Here it was lagna lord. In his D-20, this person had an exchange between the lagna lord and 8th lord (i.e. lagna lord in 8th and 8th lord in lagna)! As you may know, D-20 shows spiritual experiences. I pointed out earlier that 8th house and A8 in D-20 are important for Kundalini. After all, Kundalini experience is like a temporary death. The person's first Kundalini experience was in the dasa of 8th lord, antardasa of lagna lord, pratyantardasa of 8th lord and sooksha-antardasa of lagna lord!! Thus, the exchange between lagna lord and 8th lord gave its result fully. The simultaneous transit of 12th lord and Ketu over lagna lord helped. I trust this person and don't think he was making it up. In fact, he did not mention it to me by himself. Only when I enquired if he had a Kundalini experience at that time did he reveal that he had a Kundalini experience. I trust him. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Dear Narasimha Ji, The rule you had mentioned worked for me too.On July 1st 2004 i had a beautiful experience.(This is called satori - glimpse of the final blissful stage in spirituality). At that time my 12th lord Mercury was transiting my lagna.(cancer).At this time i was running Mer-Mer-Rahu-moon dasa.But my D-20 does not have any spiritual yogas nor any exchanges.(as far as my limited knowledge goes).Rahu is my eighth co-lord and moon is in eighth house. Here is my birth detail. Date : 13-01-1978 Time : 18:20 Time zone : 5:30 E of GMT Longitude : 77 46E Latitude : 11 20N But my question here is that how to differentiate such kind of yogas and experience for the persons born with few hour time difference.I have a friend born on the same day exactly 2 hr before me does not have any such spiritual experience.If you compare the charts expcept for moon and Lagna all the planets fall in the same house in all the charts.ofcourse this is a big difference. If you compare both the charts ,they have parivrajya yoga in the rasi.If you see the 12th lord from atmakaraka in navamsa both the charts have exalted ketu and guru.D-20 does not have any special yogas. But both does not have the same spiritual experience,jyotish knowlegde and both are not in the same country.(That is why i had asked this as a puzzle yesterday). Can you please enlighten us with your knowledge how these minute details can be worked out? Thanks, Madeswaran. vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > Sometime back, I wrote a few observations on what dasas and transits can bring Kundalini experiences. > > A few days back, I found another reliable example. Unfortunately, the birthdata is confidential and I cannot share it. But I will share some pointers to help fellow Jyotishis interested in Kundalini. > > This person had a Kundalini experience when the 12th lord of natal rasi chart was exactly transiting over the natal lagna lord (within half degree). Ketu was also transiting a few degrees away! In a previous example I referred to, Ketu was transiting close to lagna when Kundalini woke up and started rising. Here it was lagna lord. > > In his D-20, this person had an exchange between the lagna lord and 8th lord (i.e. lagna lord in 8th and 8th lord in lagna)! As you may know, D-20 shows spiritual experiences. I pointed out earlier that 8th house and A8 in D-20 are important for Kundalini. After all, Kundalini experience is like a temporary death. > > The person's first Kundalini experience was in the dasa of 8th lord, antardasa of lagna lord, pratyantardasa of 8th lord and sooksha- antardasa of lagna lord!! Thus, the exchange between lagna lord and 8th lord gave its result fully. The simultaneous transit of 12th lord and Ketu over lagna lord helped. > > I trust this person and don't think he was making it up. In fact, he did not mention it to me by himself. Only when I enquired if he had a Kundalini experience at that time did he reveal that he had a Kundalini experience. I trust him. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Dear Madeswaran, What does "final -blissful stage of spirituality" mean? Do you mean to say that you are ending your sadhana process and are approaching culmination/enlightenment/vaasana kshaya etc? If you had this, then you wouldnt have any doubts, for any kind of duality would have been destroyed and you wouldnt be asking this question, as there would be no questions for you..So, i am very curious what you mean by that term.. Could you please throw some light? Thanks. >"Mades" <mades_123 >vedic astrology >vedic astrology >[vedic astrology] Re: Some More Kundalini Pointers >Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:43:46 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.50 >X-Sender: mades_123 >Received: from n10a.bulk.scd. 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See http://antispam./domainkeys >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; >d=;b=ocxxTiMYBmeJdOd4ZSb7rAHXzIw14cAaHg8SOaM+Jqb/0f5CYt/NchotpQy\ 0zh4EuWTCfTfXxapO6lbaZPHB1q5vwNMYPK9jbFERghJGSD/2SU0P+gUHWckS5cTcJmd/; >X--Newman-Property: groups-email >X-Apparently-vedic astrology >Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam./domainkeys >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 >X-Mailer: Message Poster >X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 >X--Post-IP: 203.126.245.198 >X--Profile: mades_123 >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact >vedic astrology-owner >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology >List-Id: <vedic astrology.> >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <vedic astrology> >Return-Path: >sentto-1229044-62324-1130391828-sowmiya_s=hotmail.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2005 05:46:29.0917 (UTC) >FILETIME=[C76754D0:01C5DAB9] > >Dear Narasimha Ji, > >The rule you had mentioned worked for me too.On July 1st 2004 i had a >beautiful experience.(This is called satori - glimpse of the final >blissful stage in spirituality). > >At that time my 12th lord Mercury was transiting my lagna.(cancer).At >this time i was running Mer-Mer-Rahu-moon dasa.But my D-20 does not >have any spiritual yogas nor any exchanges.(as far as my limited >knowledge goes).Rahu is my eighth co-lord and moon is in eighth house. > >Here is my birth detail. >Date : 13-01-1978 >Time : 18:20 >Time zone : 5:30 E of GMT >Longitude : 77 46E >Latitude : 11 20N > >But my question here is that how to differentiate such kind of yogas >and experience for the persons born with few hour time difference.I >have a friend born on the same day exactly 2 hr before me does not >have any such spiritual experience.If you compare the charts expcept >for moon and Lagna all the planets fall in the same house in all the >charts.ofcourse this is a big difference. > >If you compare both the charts ,they have parivrajya yoga in the >rasi.If you see the 12th lord from atmakaraka in navamsa both the >charts have exalted ketu and guru.D-20 does not have any special >yogas. > > >But both does not have the same spiritual experience,jyotish >knowlegde and both are not in the same country.(That is why i had >asked this as a puzzle yesterday). > >Can you please enlighten us with your knowledge how these minute >details can be worked out? > > > > >Thanks, >Madeswaran. > > > > > >vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" ><pvr@c...> wrote: > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > Sometime back, I wrote a few observations on what dasas and >transits can bring Kundalini experiences. > > > > A few days back, I found another reliable example. Unfortunately, >the birthdata is confidential and I cannot share it. But I will share >some pointers to help fellow Jyotishis interested in Kundalini. > > > > This person had a Kundalini experience when the 12th lord of natal >rasi chart was exactly transiting over the natal lagna lord (within >half degree). Ketu was also transiting a few degrees away! In a >previous example I referred to, Ketu was transiting close to lagna >when Kundalini woke up and started rising. Here it was lagna lord. > > > > In his D-20, this person had an exchange between the lagna lord and >8th lord (i.e. lagna lord in 8th and 8th lord in lagna)! As you may >know, D-20 shows spiritual experiences. I pointed out earlier that >8th house and A8 in D-20 are important for Kundalini. After all, >Kundalini experience is like a temporary death. > > > > The person's first Kundalini experience was in the dasa of 8th >lord, antardasa of lagna lord, pratyantardasa of 8th lord and sooksha- >antardasa of lagna lord!! Thus, the exchange between lagna lord and >8th lord gave its result fully. The simultaneous transit of 12th lord >and Ketu over lagna lord helped. > > > > I trust this person and don't think he was making it up. In fact, >he did not mention it to me by himself. Only when I enquired if he >had a Kundalini experience at that time did he reveal that he had a >Kundalini experience. I trust him. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------------- > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Dear Sowmiya Ji, There are several stages .. When we close our eyes there are two things. a. object.(thoughts,body etc). b. subject.(ur self). First satori is a stage where there is no object and there is a subject.You can feel a vast sky of emptiness. Second satori is stage where you cannot feel what you have felt!..After some time only you will realize that something beautiful has happenned.But this is just temporary.just a glimpse. Enlightenment is a stage where you will have this experience always.When i ran mer-mer-rahu-moon dasa i got the second satori.This is a forum to discuss astrology.So i will limit my explanation here. Regards, Madeswaran. vedic astrology, "sowmiya srinivasaraghavan" <sowmiya_s@h...> wrote: > > Dear Madeswaran, > > What does "final -blissful stage of spirituality" mean? Do you mean to say > that you are ending your sadhana process and are approaching > culmination/enlightenment/vaasana kshaya etc? If you had this, then you > wouldnt have any doubts, for any kind of duality would have been destroyed > and you wouldnt be asking this question, as there would be no questions for > you..So, i am very curious what you mean by that term.. Could you please > throw some light? > > Thanks. > > > >"Mades" <mades_123> > >vedic astrology > >vedic astrology > >[vedic astrology] Re: Some More Kundalini Pointers > >Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:43:46 -0000 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.50 > >X-Sender: mades_123 > >Received: from n10a.bulk.scd. 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See http://antispam./domainkeys > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > >X-Mailer: Message Poster > >X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 > >X--Post-IP: 203.126.245.198 > >X--Profile: mades_123 > >Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact > >vedic astrology-owner > >Delivered-mailing list vedic astrology > >List-Id: <vedic astrology.> > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Un: <vedic astrology- > > >Return-Path: > >sentto-1229044-62324-1130391828-sowmiya_s=hotmail.com@r... > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2005 05:46:29.0917 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[C76754D0:01C5DAB9] > > > >Dear Narasimha Ji, > > > >The rule you had mentioned worked for me too.On July 1st 2004 i had a > >beautiful experience.(This is called satori - glimpse of the final > >blissful stage in spirituality). > > > >At that time my 12th lord Mercury was transiting my lagna. (cancer).At > >this time i was running Mer-Mer-Rahu-moon dasa.But my D-20 does not > >have any spiritual yogas nor any exchanges.(as far as my limited > >knowledge goes).Rahu is my eighth co-lord and moon is in eighth house. > > > >Here is my birth detail. > >Date : 13-01-1978 > >Time : 18:20 > >Time zone : 5:30 E of GMT > >Longitude : 77 46E > >Latitude : 11 20N > > > >But my question here is that how to differentiate such kind of yogas > >and experience for the persons born with few hour time difference.I > >have a friend born on the same day exactly 2 hr before me does not > >have any such spiritual experience.If you compare the charts expcept > >for moon and Lagna all the planets fall in the same house in all the > >charts.ofcourse this is a big difference. > > > >If you compare both the charts ,they have parivrajya yoga in the > >rasi.If you see the 12th lord from atmakaraka in navamsa both the > >charts have exalted ketu and guru.D-20 does not have any special > >yogas. > > > > > >But both does not have the same spiritual experience,jyotish > >knowlegde and both are not in the same country.(That is why i had > >asked this as a puzzle yesterday). > > > >Can you please enlighten us with your knowledge how these minute > >details can be worked out? > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > >Madeswaran. > > > > > > > > > > > >vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > ><pvr@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > Sometime back, I wrote a few observations on what dasas and > >transits can bring Kundalini experiences. > > > > > > A few days back, I found another reliable example. Unfortunately, > >the birthdata is confidential and I cannot share it. But I will share > >some pointers to help fellow Jyotishis interested in Kundalini. > > > > > > This person had a Kundalini experience when the 12th lord of natal > >rasi chart was exactly transiting over the natal lagna lord (within > >half degree). Ketu was also transiting a few degrees away! In a > >previous example I referred to, Ketu was transiting close to lagna > >when Kundalini woke up and started rising. Here it was lagna lord. > > > > > > In his D-20, this person had an exchange between the lagna lord and > >8th lord (i.e. lagna lord in 8th and 8th lord in lagna)! As you may > >know, D-20 shows spiritual experiences. I pointed out earlier that > >8th house and A8 in D-20 are important for Kundalini. After all, > >Kundalini experience is like a temporary death. > > > > > > The person's first Kundalini experience was in the dasa of 8th > >lord, antardasa of lagna lord, pratyantardasa of 8th lord and sooksha- > >antardasa of lagna lord!! Thus, the exchange between lagna lord and > >8th lord gave its result fully. The simultaneous transit of 12th lord > >and Ketu over lagna lord helped. > > > > > > I trust this person and don't think he was making it up. In fact, > >he did not mention it to me by himself. Only when I enquired if he > >had a Kundalini experience at that time did he reveal that he had a > >Kundalini experience. I trust him. > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------------- > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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