Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 (1)bcoz Tula is SHATRU Rasi for JUP.(2) SQUR Rasi from his UCHA rasi KARAKA (3) Ashtamesh Rasi from owan Rasi Meena hope clear. regards kanakkankan_73 <kankan_73 > wrote: A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this.Regards,Kannan--- In vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:>> Dear Members,> > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. However, > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya and > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit.> > regards / Prafulla> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter meaning Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju is in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? rgds utpal kankan_73 <kankan_73 > wrote: A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this.Regards,Kannan--- In vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:>> Dear Members,> > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. However, > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya and > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit.> > regards / Prafulla> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 In gochara, the moon sign is important and considered to be the reference point (equivalent to lagna). So the same logic of Leo ascendant may not apply. Regards, Jay On 10/28/05, kankan_73 <kankan_73 > wrote: A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this.Regards,Kannan vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"<prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:>> Dear Members,>> Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most> astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. However, > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagyaand> 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit.>> regards / Prafulla>------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Click here to rescue a little child from a life of poverty.http://us.click./rAWabB/gYnLAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~-> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.html ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Links<*> vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 utpalhbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 > wrote: The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if they are located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets in 9th house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are in bad nakshatras.G. Singh--- In vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:>> Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras that is > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's astrology chart. > He has many planets in 8th house but check what constellations these > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he has three > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th house of > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of 2nd and > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house.> > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd house. In > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it gives > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra.> I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that traditional > astrology does not work. You will find many situations where you will > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad or good > results using traditional astrology. But if one has knowledge of > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give bad or good > results and when it will happen.> > G. Singh> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> >> > Dear HBK1HBK,> > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that 8th > house > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of houses in > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao has 4 > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you will not > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong".> > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just talking > about > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always be done > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of why > Guru's > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not Favourable.> > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have not > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to mention > that > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking out its > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one > malefic.> > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all> > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:> > >> > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter in > > 3rd > > > house with moon.> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > > meaning > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju > > is > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?> > > > > > > > rgds> > > > utpal > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:> > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Kannan> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, > > most > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > > > However, > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > > bhagya > > > > and > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit.> > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.> > > >> > >> >> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , of jupiter rulling 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b lagna ) , and saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and mer in the first house . My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place stronly then the effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of 2nd , and 11th in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . check this 06:30am,bombay,10th march can u pls put in some light regarding . thanking you Regards Prashu On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 > wrote: In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house and exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons nakshatra, and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent results when the nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or 11th house from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn mahadasha and saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's nakshatra. Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But moon also rules 6th house so he had some health problems.To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house lord is not bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you the birth data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going through 8th lord's bhukti.$27.7M won on 2-23-1993lottery12-5-1954 12:19pm EST Brighton, MARegardsG. Singhvedic astrology , "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:>> Hi> > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house lordship > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th house is > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, sudden gains, > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if venus and > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure somya > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur planets), will > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why? 8th house > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be able to give > wealth.> Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in 8th house. > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at risk of > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with the > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, if planet > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house will be > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.> > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the factors, > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such delivery factor > is obstructed.> > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is the root. > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a question, > which has multiple factors (including the positioning from moon's > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, and > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we may call it > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, which has > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house which has > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified with other > factors).> > regards / Prafulla> vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:> >> > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if they are > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets in 9th > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are in bad > > nakshatras.> > > > G. Singh> > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:> > >> > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras that > is > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's astrology > > chart. > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what constellations > > these > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he has > > three > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th house > of > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of 2nd > and > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd house. > In > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it gives > > > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that traditional > > > astrology does not work. You will find many situations where you > > will > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad or > good > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has knowledge of > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give bad or > > good > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear HBK1HBK,> > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that 8th > > > house > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of > houses > > in > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao has > 4 > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you > will > > not > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just > talking > > > about > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always be > > done > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of why > > > Guru's > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not > > Favourable.> > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have > not > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to > mention > > > that > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking out > > its > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one > > > malefic.> > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all> > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has > jupiter > > in > > > > 3rd > > > > > house with moon.> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for > Jupiter > > > > meaning > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo > Lagna, > > ju > > > > is > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?> > > > > > > > > > > > rgds> > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:> > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Kannan> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo > natives, > > > > most > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi > transit. > > > > > However, > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th > house, > > > > bhagya > > > > > > and > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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