Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. Regards, Kannan vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. However, > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya and > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear friend, If the sign and navamsa dispositor of 3rd house transit (from lagna) Jupiter is well placed and strong there will be much gain of wealth, fame etc. However from Moon 3rd house (the house of inconsistent effots- indicator of working in bits and pieces - without any sincerity especially when Moon is the natural significator of Mind- 3rd shows a vaccilating mind- the Jupiterian wisdom goes for vain. With best wishes for Diwali to all, Mandakini ---------------- jyotimac an astrology group for marriage and children -------------------------- vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote: > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > Regards, > Kannan > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. However, > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya > and > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 if it is exalted in 3rd house? vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter meaning Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju is in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > rgds > utpal > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > Regards, > Kannan > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. However, > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya > and > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear Utpalji, What about Jupiters aspects on 7th, 9th & 11th house (all good houses and a benefic aspect prosper these aspects) Regards, Kannan vedic astrology, "jatinsingus" <jatinsing@h...> wrote: > > if it is exalted in 3rd house? > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter meaning > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju is > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > rgds > > utpal > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > However, > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya > > and > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear Kannan, I would request you to deeply think in astrology. also try to apply the logic. If a planet is "Sad" or say not Happy then it will be that much inaffective in it's aspects as well. Guru in 3rd house affects the "Parakrama" of the native. the valour, the will of action is badly affected & it can have a direct negative influence on Karmastahna or career. regards, utpal vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote: > > Dear Utpalji, > What about Jupiters aspects on 7th, 9th & 11th house (all good > houses and a benefic aspect prosper these aspects) > > Regards, > Kannan > vedic astrology, "jatinsingus" > <jatinsing@h...> wrote: > > > > if it is exalted in 3rd house? > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > meaning > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju > is > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > rgds > > > utpal > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, > most > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > > However, > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > bhagya > > > and > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear Utpalji, As per my little knowledge, aspects dont carry the effect of planets avastha/exaltation/debiliation/MKS. If you can provide any references in support of your logic, kindly do. It will be helpful for me as I am a learner. Regards, Kannan vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear Kannan, > > I would request you to deeply think in astrology. also try to apply > the logic. > > If a planet is "Sad" or say not Happy then it will be that much > inaffective in it's aspects as well. Guru in 3rd house affects > the "Parakrama" of the native. the valour, the will of action is > badly affected & it can have a direct negative influence on > Karmastahna or career. > > regards, > utpal > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> > wrote: > > > > Dear Utpalji, > > What about Jupiters aspects on 7th, 9th & 11th house (all good > > houses and a benefic aspect prosper these aspects) > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > vedic astrology, "jatinsingus" > > <jatinsing@h...> wrote: > > > > > > if it is exalted in 3rd house? > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > > meaning > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju > > is > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, > > most > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > > > However, > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > > bhagya > > > > and > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter in 3rd house with moon. vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter meaning Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju is in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > rgds > utpal > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > Regards, > Kannan > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. However, > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya > and > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Hello, In my chart Guru is in Capricorn (3rd house) along with Sat undergoing neechabhanga. My JUP MD was tremendous until 1999. However, SAT being in its own house is not great yet. Any reasons for this? Does conjunction of SAT with JUP giving the JUP results during SAT MD and vice versa during JUP MD? Natal Chart March 5, 1961 Time: 23:27:59 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 10' 00", 14 N 12' 00" Rajampet, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Sharvari - Phalguna Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (97.52% left) Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (65.57% left) Yoga: Vriddhi (Me) (53.38% left) Karana: Bava (Su) (95.04% left) Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta) Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Vi) Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Rahu) Sunrise: 6:31:22 Sunset: 18:18:50 Janma Ghatis: 42.3588 Ayanamsa: 23-18-46.23 Sidereal Time: 10:07:36 Regrds, Ueda vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter in 3rd > house with moon. > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter meaning > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju is > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > rgds > > utpal > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > However, > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya > > and > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Even I am tempted for a question. I too have Jupiter in 3rd house with Moon. My lagna is Libra. As most answers indicate Jupiter in 3rd house is not good, do I take it as a bottomline? What about if it forms a Gaj Kesari Yoga too? As per current transit, I beleive Jupiter is going to be positive for me in current transit in Libra as it is in 11th house during transit. Please carry on the discussion. Regards, Harcharan vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter in 3rd > house with moon. > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter meaning > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju is > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > rgds > > utpal > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > However, > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya > > and > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear Utpal ji A planet is weak / strong, shubha / ashubha or krur / somya; are very different issues and got to be dealt very differently. Unlike saturn, jupiter boosts the house it aspects and damages the house it is positioned (irrespective of house). Whether such aspect will be good for such a somya planet, will largely depend upon its strength and its shubha/ashubha nature for the lagna in question. Jupiter in 3rd house in libra is considered, positioned in enemy's sign is a quick jump statement and needs to be modifed for its tatkalik relationship with venus, other association, it makes there. So, is it good or bad for 3rd house related significations, will have to be seen with these weighted factors. and so its aspect to be seen differently. Here it will aspect 7th house / 9th house and 11th house; and if jupiter is shubha for lagna in question - its aspect can not be bad. So first let us narrow it down to its fundamental role of shubha or ashubha. Then, we got to see its strength to see, as to what extent it can do good, if at all it is shubha or vice versa. In theory, as you stated - it is not in happy mood for its marana awastha; is not necessarlily applicable verbatim. For example- for jupiter in 3rd for leo native will have different interpretation than jupiter in 3rd house for makara lagna natives. Though jupiter is considered first rated karaka, it seldom gives wealth. In ancient times, knowledge was wealth, which is not necessarily true in modern context; and for its somya nature, its ability to do good is certainy questioned for current yuga. if no major negative factor exists for its association with other planets with its positioning in 3rd for leo lagna, it will give good effects while it transits in 3rd house. Such good results will be visible for 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear Kannan, > > I would request you to deeply think in astrology. also try to apply > the logic. > > If a planet is "Sad" or say not Happy then it will be that much > inaffective in it's aspects as well. Guru in 3rd house affects > the "Parakrama" of the native. the valour, the will of action is > badly affected & it can have a direct negative influence on > Karmastahna or career. > > regards, > utpal > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> > wrote: > > > > Dear Utpalji, > > What about Jupiters aspects on 7th, 9th & 11th house (all good > > houses and a benefic aspect prosper these aspects) > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > vedic astrology, "jatinsingus" > > <jatinsing@h...> wrote: > > > > > > if it is exalted in 3rd house? > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > > meaning > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju > > is > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, > > most > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > > > However, > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > > bhagya > > > > and > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear HBK1HBK, Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that 8th house is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of houses in whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao has 4 planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you will not refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just talking about the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always be done looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of why Guru's Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not Favourable. even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have not done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to mention that Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking out its shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one malefic. hope i have clarified myself once & for all Utpal vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter in 3rd > house with moon. > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter meaning > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju is > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > rgds > > utpal > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, most > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > However, > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, bhagya > > and > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear Prafulla Ji I thank you for all the knowledge which you have shared in your message. it was quite a revelation. thanks & regards, utpal vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > Dear Utpal ji > > A planet is weak / strong, shubha / ashubha or krur / somya; are > very different issues and got to be dealt very differently. Unlike > saturn, jupiter boosts the house it aspects and damages the house it > is positioned (irrespective of house). Whether such aspect will be > good for such a somya planet, will largely depend upon its strength > and its shubha/ashubha nature for the lagna in question. > > Jupiter in 3rd house in libra is considered, positioned in enemy's > sign is a quick jump statement and needs to be modifed for its > tatkalik relationship with venus, other association, it makes there. > So, is it good or bad for 3rd house related significations, will > have to be seen with these weighted factors. and so its aspect to be > seen differently. Here it will aspect 7th house / 9th house and 11th > house; and if jupiter is shubha for lagna in question - its aspect > can not be bad. So first let us narrow it down to its fundamental > role of shubha or ashubha. Then, we got to see its strength to see, > as to what extent it can do good, if at all it is shubha or vice > versa. > > In theory, as you stated - it is not in happy mood for its marana > awastha; is not necessarlily applicable verbatim. For example- for > jupiter in 3rd for leo native will have different interpretation > than jupiter in 3rd house for makara lagna natives. > > Though jupiter is considered first rated karaka, it seldom gives > wealth. In ancient times, knowledge was wealth, which is not > necessarily true in modern context; and for its somya nature, its > ability to do good is certainy questioned for current yuga. > > if no major negative factor exists for its association with other > planets with its positioning in 3rd for leo lagna, it will give good > effects while it transits in 3rd house. Such good results will be > visible for 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. > > regards / Prafulla > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Dear Kannan, > > > > I would request you to deeply think in astrology. also try to > apply > > the logic. > > > > If a planet is "Sad" or say not Happy then it will be that much > > inaffective in it's aspects as well. Guru in 3rd house affects > > the "Parakrama" of the native. the valour, the will of action is > > badly affected & it can have a direct negative influence on > > Karmastahna or career. > > > > regards, > > utpal > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > <kankan_73> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Utpalji, > > > What about Jupiters aspects on 7th, 9th & 11th house (all good > > > houses and a benefic aspect prosper these aspects) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > vedic astrology, "jatinsingus" > > > <jatinsing@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > if it is exalted in 3rd house? > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > > > meaning > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, > ju > > > is > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo > natives, > > > most > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi > transit. > > > > However, > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > > > bhagya > > > > > and > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Terms > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one > click. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras that is why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's astrology chart. He has many planets in 8th house but check what constellations these 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he has three planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th house of luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of 2nd and 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd house. In my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it gives excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that traditional astrology does not work. You will find many situations where you will not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad or good results using traditional astrology. But if one has knowledge of nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give bad or good results and when it will happen. G. Singh vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that 8th house > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of houses in > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao has 4 > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you will not > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just talking about > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always be done > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of why Guru's > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not Favourable. > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have not > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to mention that > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking out its > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one malefic. > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > Utpal > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter in > 3rd > > house with moon. > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > meaning > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju > is > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > rgds > > > utpal > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, > most > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > > However, > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > bhagya > > > and > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if they are located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets in 9th house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are in bad nakshatras. G. Singh vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras that is > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's astrology chart. > He has many planets in 8th house but check what constellations these > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he has three > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th house of > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of 2nd and > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd house. In > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it gives > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that traditional > astrology does not work. You will find many situations where you will > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad or good > results using traditional astrology. But if one has knowledge of > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give bad or good > results and when it will happen. > > G. Singh > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that 8th > house > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of houses in > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao has 4 > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you will not > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just talking > about > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always be done > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of why > Guru's > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not Favourable. > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have not > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to mention > that > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking out its > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one > malefic. > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter in > > 3rd > > > house with moon. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > > meaning > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, ju > > is > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, > > most > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > > > However, > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > > bhagya > > > > and > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Hi You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house lordship is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th house is the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, sudden gains, unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if venus and jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure somya planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur planets), will make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why? 8th house planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be able to give wealth. Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in 8th house. Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at risk of afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with the affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, if planet in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house will be afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the factors, which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such delivery factor is obstructed. Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is the root. Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a question, which has multiple factors (including the positioning from moon's constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, and probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we may call it as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, which has given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house which has resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified with other factors). regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if they are > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets in 9th > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are in bad > nakshatras. > > G. Singh > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras that is > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's astrology > chart. > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what constellations > these > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he has > three > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th house of > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of 2nd and > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd house. In > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it gives > > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that traditional > > astrology does not work. You will find many situations where you > will > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad or good > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has knowledge of > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give bad or > good > > results and when it will happen. > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that 8th > > house > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of houses > in > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao has 4 > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you will > not > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just talking > > about > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always be > done > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of why > > Guru's > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not > Favourable. > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have not > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to mention > > that > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking out > its > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one > > malefic. > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has jupiter > in > > > 3rd > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for Jupiter > > > meaning > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo Lagna, > ju > > > is > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo natives, > > > most > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi transit. > > > > However, > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th house, > > > bhagya > > > > > and > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house and exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons nakshatra, and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent results when the nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or 11th house from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn mahadasha and saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's nakshatra. Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But moon also rules 6th house so he had some health problems. To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house lord is not bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you the birth data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going through 8th lord's bhukti. $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 lottery 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST Brighton, MA Regards G. Singh vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > Hi > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house lordship > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th house is > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, sudden gains, > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if venus and > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure somya > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur planets), will > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why? 8th house > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be able to give > wealth. > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in 8th house. > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at risk of > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with the > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, if planet > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house will be > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the factors, > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such delivery factor > is obstructed. > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is the root. > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a question, > which has multiple factors (including the positioning from moon's > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, and > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we may call it > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, which has > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house which has > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified with other > factors). > > regards / Prafulla > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if they are > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets in 9th > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are in bad > > nakshatras. > > > > G. Singh > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras that > is > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's astrology > > chart. > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what constellations > > these > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he has > > three > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th house > of > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of 2nd > and > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd house. > In > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it gives > > > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that traditional > > > astrology does not work. You will find many situations where you > > will > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad or > good > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has knowledge of > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give bad or > > good > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that 8th > > > house > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of > houses > > in > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao has > 4 > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you > will > > not > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just > talking > > > about > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always be > > done > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of why > > > Guru's > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have > not > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to > mention > > > that > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking out > > its > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has > jupiter > > in > > > > 3rd > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for > Jupiter > > > > meaning > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo > Lagna, > > ju > > > > is > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo > natives, > > > > most > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi > transit. > > > > > However, > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th > house, > > > > bhagya > > > > > > and > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Dear Prashu, When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the condition and location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in 12th house or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that planet is well placed and rules good house then the planet under consideration will still give excellent results although it is located in 6th or 8th or 12th house. On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th house for example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad houses and is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration will still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in 9th or 11th house. Regards G. Singh vedic astrology, Prashant <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > Dear G singh ji, > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , of jupiter rulling > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b lagna ) , and > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and mer in the first > house . > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place stronly then the > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of 2nd , and 11th > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > check this > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > can u pls put in some light regarding . > thanking you > Regards > Prashu > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house and > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons nakshatra, > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent results when the > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or 11th house > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn mahadasha and > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's nakshatra. > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But moon also > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house lord is not > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you the birth > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going through 8th > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > lottery > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house lordship > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th house is > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, sudden gains, > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if venus and > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure somya > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur planets), > > will > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why? 8th house > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be able to give > > > wealth. > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in 8th > > house. > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at risk of > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with the > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, if planet > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house will be > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the factors, > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such delivery factor > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is the root. > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a question, > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning from moon's > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, and > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we may call it > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, which has > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house which has > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified with other > > > factors). > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if they are > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets in 9th > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are in bad > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras > > that > > > is > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's astrology > > > > chart. > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what constellations > > > > these > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he has > > > > three > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th house > > > of > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of 2nd > > > and > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd > > house. > > > In > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it > > gives > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that > > traditional > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many situations where > > you > > > > will > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad or > > > good > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has knowledge > > of > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give bad > > or > > > > good > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that > > 8th > > > > > house > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of > > > houses > > > > in > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao > > has > > > 4 > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you > > > will > > > > not > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just > > > talking > > > > > about > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall always > > be > > > > done > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of > > why > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they have > > > not > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to > > > mention > > > > > that > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking > > out > > > > its > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast one > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has > > > jupiter > > > > in > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for > > > Jupiter > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo > > > Lagna, > > > > ju > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo > > > natives, > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi > > > transit. > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th > > > house, > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Dear G singh ji , Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet importance depends on it...... right, Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord is rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that concluded .????? dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare silly thanking you will wait for ur reply regards prashu vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > Dear Prashu, > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the condition and > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in 12th house > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that planet is > well placed and rules good house then the planet under consideration > will still give excellent results although it is located in 6th or > 8th or 12th house. > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th house for > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad houses and > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration will > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in 9th or > 11th house. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > > vedic astrology, Prashant <prashant37@g...> > wrote: > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , of > jupiter rulling > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b > lagna ) , and > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and mer in > the first > > house . > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place stronly then > the > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of 2nd , > and 11th > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > check this > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > thanking you > > Regards > > Prashu > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house and > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons > nakshatra, > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent results when > the > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or 11th > house > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn mahadasha and > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's nakshatra. > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But moon > also > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house lord is > not > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you the > birth > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going through > 8th > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > lottery > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house > lordship > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th house > is > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, sudden > gains, > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if venus > and > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure somya > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur planets), > > > will > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why? 8th > house > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be able to > give > > > > wealth. > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in 8th > > > house. > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at risk of > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with the > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, if > planet > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house will > be > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the factors, > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such delivery > factor > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is the > root. > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a > question, > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning from > moon's > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, and > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we may call > it > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, which has > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house which > has > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified with other > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if they > are > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets in > 9th > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are in > bad > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying nakshatras > > > that > > > > is > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's > astrology > > > > > chart. > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what > constellations > > > > > these > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly he > has > > > > > three > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the 9th > house > > > > of > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler of > 2nd > > > > and > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd > > > house. > > > > In > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon it > > > gives > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that > > > traditional > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many situations where > > > you > > > > > will > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave bad > or > > > > good > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has > knowledge > > > of > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will give > bad > > > or > > > > > good > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said that > > > 8th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic of > > > > houses > > > > > in > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha Rao > > > has > > > > 4 > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like you > > > > will > > > > > not > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just > > > > talking > > > > > > about > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall > always > > > be > > > > > done > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic logic of > > > why > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered not > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & they > have > > > > not > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place to > > > > mention > > > > > > that > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of sucking > > > out > > > > > its > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from atleast > one > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He has > > > > jupiter > > > > > in > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for Leo > > > > Lagna, > > > > > ju > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply to > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla > Gang" > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For Leo > > > > natives, > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula rasi > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect 7th > > > > house, > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not give good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th house. But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be better. G. Singh vedic astrology, "prashant37" <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > Dear G singh ji , > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet > importance depends on it...... right, > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord is > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that > concluded .????? > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare silly > > thanking you > > will wait for ur reply > > > regards > > prashu > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashu, > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the condition and > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in 12th > house > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that planet > is > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under > consideration > > will still give excellent results although it is located in 6th or > > 8th or 12th house. > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th house for > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad houses > and > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration will > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in 9th > or > > 11th house. > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant <prashant37@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , of > > jupiter rulling > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b > > lagna ) , and > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and mer > in > > the first > > > house . > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place stronly > then > > the > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of > 2nd , > > and 11th > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > > check this > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > > thanking you > > > Regards > > > Prashu > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house and > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons > > nakshatra, > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent results > when > > the > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or 11th > > house > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn mahadasha > and > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's > nakshatra. > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But moon > > also > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house lord > is > > not > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you the > > birth > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going > through > > 8th > > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > > lottery > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house > > lordship > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th > house > > is > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, sudden > > gains, > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if > venus > > and > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure somya > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur > planets), > > > > will > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why? > 8th > > house > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be able > to > > give > > > > > wealth. > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in 8th > > > > house. > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at risk > of > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with the > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, if > > planet > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house > will > > be > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the > factors, > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such delivery > > factor > > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is the > > root. > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a > > question, > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning from > > moon's > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, and > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we may > call > > it > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, which > has > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house > which > > has > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified with > other > > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if > they > > are > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets > in > > 9th > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are > in > > bad > > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying > nakshatras > > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's > > astrology > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what > > constellations > > > > > > these > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember correctly > he > > has > > > > > > three > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the > 9th > > house > > > > > of > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler > of > > 2nd > > > > > and > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in 3rd > > > > house. > > > > > In > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon > it > > > > gives > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that > > > > traditional > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many situations > where > > > > you > > > > > > will > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave > bad > > or > > > > > good > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has > > knowledge > > > > of > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will > give > > bad > > > > or > > > > > > good > > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said > that > > > > 8th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic > of > > > > > houses > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR Narsimha > Rao > > > > has > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" like > you > > > > > will > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am just > > > > > talking > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall > > always > > > > be > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic > logic of > > > > why > > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered > not > > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & > they > > have > > > > > not > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place > to > > > > > mention > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of > sucking > > > > out > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from > atleast > > one > > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He > has > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana for > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for > Leo > > > > > Lagna, > > > > > > ju > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member reply > to > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For > Leo > > > > > natives, > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula > rasi > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect > 7th > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Dear Sir, But ,sir, though the node is in the 11th house , and jupiter is in rahu nakahatra , and rahu in the 11th house wont it give a chance of sudden raise in status of the native in regards to family life and money , and jupiter rules the 11th and 2nd house??? vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not give > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th house. > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be > better. > > G. Singh > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear G singh ji , > > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet > > importance depends on it...... right, > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord is > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that > > concluded .????? > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare silly > > > > thanking you > > > > will wait for ur reply > > > > > > regards > > > > prashu > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashu, > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the condition > and > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in 12th > > house > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that > planet > > is > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under > > consideration > > > will still give excellent results although it is located in 6th > or > > > 8th or 12th house. > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th house > for > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad houses > > and > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration will > > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in 9th > > or > > > 11th house. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant > <prashant37@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , of > > > jupiter rulling > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b > > > lagna ) , and > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and mer > > in > > > the first > > > > house . > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place stronly > > then > > > the > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of > > 2nd , > > > and 11th > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > > > check this > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > > > thanking you > > > > Regards > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house and > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons > > > nakshatra, > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent results > > when > > > the > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or 11th > > > house > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn > mahadasha > > and > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's > > nakshatra. > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But > moon > > > also > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house > lord > > is > > > not > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you the > > > birth > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going > > through > > > 8th > > > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > > > lottery > > > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house > > > lordship > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th > > house > > > is > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, sudden > > > gains, > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if > > venus > > > and > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure > somya > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur > > planets), > > > > > will > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why? > > 8th > > > house > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be able > > to > > > give > > > > > > wealth. > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in > 8th > > > > > house. > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at > risk > > of > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with the > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, if > > > planet > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house > > will > > > be > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the > > factors, > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such > delivery > > > factor > > > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is > the > > > root. > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a > > > question, > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning from > > > moon's > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, and > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we may > > call > > > it > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, > which > > has > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house > > which > > > has > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified with > > other > > > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if > > they > > > are > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time planets > > in > > > 9th > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they are > > in > > > bad > > > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying > > nakshatras > > > > > that > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's > > > astrology > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what > > > constellations > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember > correctly > > he > > > has > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the > > 9th > > > house > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the ruler > > of > > > 2nd > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in > 3rd > > > > > house. > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal moon > > it > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own nakshatra. > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many situations > > where > > > > > you > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet gave > > bad > > > or > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has > > > knowledge > > > > > of > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will > > give > > > bad > > > > > or > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have said > > that > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most Malefic > > of > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR > Narsimha > > Rao > > > > > has > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" > like > > you > > > > > > will > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am > just > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement shall > > > always > > > > > be > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic > > logic of > > > > > why > > > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is considered > > not > > > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd & > > they > > > have > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of place > > to > > > > > > mention > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of > > sucking > > > > > out > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from > > atleast > > > one > > > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. He > > has > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana > for > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and for > > Leo > > > > > > Lagna, > > > > > > > ju > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member > reply > > to > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- astrology, "Prafulla > > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. For > > Leo > > > > > > natives, > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula > > rasi > > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will aspect > > 7th > > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Yes, I agree with you. G. Singh vedic astrology, "prashant37" <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > But ,sir, though the node is in the 11th house , and jupiter is in > rahu nakahatra , and rahu in the 11th house wont it give a chance of > sudden raise in status of the native in regards to family life and > money , and jupiter rules the 11th and 2nd house??? > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not give > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th house. > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be > > better. > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear G singh ji , > > > > > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet > > > importance depends on it...... right, > > > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord is > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that > > > concluded .????? > > > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare silly > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > will wait for ur reply > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > prashu > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashu, > > > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the condition > > and > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in > 12th > > > house > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that > > planet > > > is > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under > > > consideration > > > > will still give excellent results although it is located in > 6th > > or > > > > 8th or 12th house. > > > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th house > > for > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad > houses > > > and > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration > will > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in > 9th > > > or > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant > > <prashant37@g...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , of > > > > jupiter rulling > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b > > > > lagna ) , and > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and > mer > > > in > > > > the first > > > > > house . > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place > stronly > > > then > > > > the > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of > > > 2nd , > > > > and 11th > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > > > > check this > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > > > > thanking you > > > > > Regards > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house > and > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons > > > > nakshatra, > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent > results > > > when > > > > the > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or > 11th > > > > house > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn > > mahadasha > > > and > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But > > moon > > > > also > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house > > lord > > > is > > > > not > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you > the > > > > birth > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going > > > through > > > > 8th > > > > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > > > > lottery > > > > > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th > house > > > > lordship > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th > > > house > > > > is > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, > sudden > > > > gains, > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if > > > venus > > > > and > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure > > somya > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur > > > planets), > > > > > > will > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is > why? > > > 8th > > > > house > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be > able > > > to > > > > give > > > > > > > wealth. > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet > in > > 8th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at > > risk > > > of > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with > the > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas, > if > > > > planet > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd > house > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the > > > factors, > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such > > delivery > > > > factor > > > > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is > > the > > > > root. > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a > > > > question, > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning > from > > > > moon's > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha, > and > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we > may > > > call > > > > it > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, > > which > > > has > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th > house > > > which > > > > has > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified > with > > > other > > > > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if > > > they > > > > are > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time > planets > > > in > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they > are > > > in > > > > bad > > > > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying > > > nakshatras > > > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what > > > > constellations > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember > > correctly > > > he > > > > has > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in > the > > > 9th > > > > house > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the > ruler > > > of > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is > in > > 3rd > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal > moon > > > it > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many > situations > > > where > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet > gave > > > bad > > > > or > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has > > > > knowledge > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will > > > give > > > > bad > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal > pathak" > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have > said > > > that > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most > Malefic > > > of > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR > > Narsimha > > > Rao > > > > > > has > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" > > like > > > you > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am > > just > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement > shall > > > > always > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic > > > logic of > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is > considered > > > not > > > > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd > & > > > they > > > > have > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of > place > > > to > > > > > > > mention > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of > > > sucking > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from > > > atleast > > > > one > > > > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. > He > > > has > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" > Sthana > > for > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and > for > > > Leo > > > > > > > Lagna, > > > > > > > > ju > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member > > reply > > > to > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > astrology, "Prafulla > > > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. > For > > > Leo > > > > > > > natives, > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in > tula > > > rasi > > > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will > aspect > > > 7th > > > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered > bad > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Sir then in this case , 11th house is for speculation , or luck , then that means that the native will earn money or get money from shares , lotteries , or ??? can u pls put some light in this area , pls thanking you Regards Prashu vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > Yes, I agree with you. > > G. Singh > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > But ,sir, though the node is in the 11th house , and jupiter is in > > rahu nakahatra , and rahu in the 11th house wont it give a chance > of > > sudden raise in status of the native in regards to family life and > > money , and jupiter rules the 11th and 2nd house??? > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not give > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th > house. > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be > > > better. > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet > > > > importance depends on it...... right, > > > > > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord is > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that > > > > concluded .????? > > > > > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare silly > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > will wait for ur reply > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashu, > > > > > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the > condition > > > and > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in > > 12th > > > > house > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that > > > planet > > > > is > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under > > > > consideration > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is located in > > 6th > > > or > > > > > 8th or 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th > house > > > for > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad > > houses > > > > and > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration > > will > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in > > 9th > > > > or > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant > > > <prashant37@g...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , > of > > > > > jupiter rulling > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b > > > > > lagna ) , and > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and > > mer > > > > in > > > > > the first > > > > > > house . > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place > > stronly > > > > then > > > > > the > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of > > > > 2nd , > > > > > and 11th > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > > > > > check this > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th > house > > and > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons > > > > > nakshatra, > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent > > results > > > > when > > > > > the > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or > > 11th > > > > > house > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn > > > mahadasha > > > > and > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But > > > moon > > > > > also > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house > > > lord > > > > is > > > > > not > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you > > the > > > > > birth > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going > > > > through > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > > > > > lottery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > > > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th > > house > > > > > lordship > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, > 8th > > > > house > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, > > sudden > > > > > gains, > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that > if > > > > venus > > > > > and > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure > > > somya > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur > > > > planets), > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is > > why? > > > > 8th > > > > > house > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be > > able > > > > to > > > > > give > > > > > > > > wealth. > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet > > in > > > 8th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at > > > risk > > > > of > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and > with > > the > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. > Whereas, > > if > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd > > house > > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the > > > > factors, > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such > > > delivery > > > > > factor > > > > > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement > is > > > the > > > > > root. > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a > > > > > question, > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning > > from > > > > > moon's > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure > subha, > > and > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we > > may > > > > call > > > > > it > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors, > > > which > > > > has > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th > > house > > > > which > > > > > has > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more > of > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified > > with > > > > other > > > > > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > vedic- astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results > if > > > > they > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time > > planets > > > > in > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they > > are > > > > in > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying > > > > nakshatras > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh > Bachhan's > > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what > > > > > constellations > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember > > > correctly > > > > he > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in > > the > > > > 9th > > > > > house > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the > > ruler > > > > of > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is > > in > > > 3rd > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal > > moon > > > > it > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that > > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many > > situations > > > > where > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet > > gave > > > > bad > > > > > or > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet > will > > > > give > > > > > bad > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal > > pathak" > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have > > said > > > > that > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most > > Malefic > > > > of > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR > > > Narsimha > > > > Rao > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha" > > > like > > > > you > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I > am > > > just > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement > > shall > > > > > always > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic > > > > logic of > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is > > considered > > > > not > > > > > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd > > & > > > > they > > > > > have > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of > > place > > > > to > > > > > > > > mention > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable > of > > > > sucking > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from > > > > atleast > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush. > > He > > > > has > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" > > Sthana > > > for > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and > > for > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > Lagna, > > > > > > > > > ju > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member > > > reply > > > > to > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > astrology, "Prafulla > > > > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house. > > For > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > natives, > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in > > tula > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will > > aspect > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered > > bad > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic- > > > > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic- astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Yes rahu in 11th house is good for financial gains. Jupiter being in rahu's nakshatra will energize the 11th house rahu during jupiter mahadasha. The native can expect good results during Jupiter mahadasha and rahu bhukti. Regards G. Singh vedic astrology, "prashant37" <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > Sir then in this case , 11th house is for speculation , or luck , > then that means that the native will earn money or get money from > shares , lotteries , or ??? > > can u pls put some light in this area , pls > > thanking you > > > Regards > > Prashu > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > Yes, I agree with you. > > > > G. Singh > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > But ,sir, though the node is in the 11th house , and jupiter is > in > > > rahu nakahatra , and rahu in the 11th house wont it give a > chance > > of > > > sudden raise in status of the native in regards to family life > and > > > money , and jupiter rules the 11th and 2nd house??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not > give > > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th > > house. > > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be > > > > better. > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet > > > > > importance depends on it...... right, > > > > > > > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord > is > > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that > > > > > concluded .????? > > > > > > > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare > silly > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > > will wait for ur reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashu, > > > > > > > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the > > condition > > > > and > > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in > > > 12th > > > > > house > > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of > that > > > > planet > > > > > is > > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under > > > > > consideration > > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is located > in > > > 6th > > > > or > > > > > > 8th or 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th > > house > > > > for > > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad > > > houses > > > > > and > > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under > consideration > > > will > > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted > in > > > 9th > > > > > or > > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant > > > > <prashant37@g...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the > logic , > > of > > > > > > jupiter rulling > > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is > big b > > > > > > lagna ) , and > > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , > and > > > mer > > > > > in > > > > > > the first > > > > > > > house . > > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place > > > stronly > > > > > then > > > > > > the > > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler > of > > > > > 2nd , > > > > > > and 11th > > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > > > > > > check this > > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th > > house > > > and > > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in > moons > > > > > > nakshatra, > > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent > > > results > > > > > when > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th > or > > > 11th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn > > > > mahadasha > > > > > and > > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's > > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. > But > > > > moon > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th > house > > > > lord > > > > > is > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending > you > > > the > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was > going > > > > > through > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > > > > > > lottery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > > > > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th > > > house > > > > > > lordship > > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, > > 8th > > > > > house > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains, > > > sudden > > > > > > gains, > > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, > that > > if > > > > > venus > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include > pure > > > > somya > > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any > krur > > > > > planets), > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is > > > why? > > > > > 8th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will > be > > > able > > > > > to > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > wealth. > > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than > planet > > > in > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs > at > > > > risk > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and > > with > > > the > > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. > > Whereas, > > > if > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd > > > house > > > > > will > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but > the > > > > > factors, > > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such > > > > delivery > > > > > > factor > > > > > > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation > placement > > is > > > > the > > > > > > root. > > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver > is a > > > > > > question, > > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the > positioning > > > from > > > > > > moon's > > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure > > subha, > > > and > > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what > we > > > may > > > > > call > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other > factors, > > > > which > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th > > > house > > > > > which > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be > more > > of > > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be > modified > > > with > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > vedic- > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent > results > > if > > > > > they > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time > > > planets > > > > > in > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if > they > > > are > > > > > in > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying > > > > > nakshatras > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh > > Bachhan's > > > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what > > > > > > constellations > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember > > > > correctly > > > > > he > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed > in > > > the > > > > > 9th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter > the > > > ruler > > > > > of > > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it > is > > > in > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from > natal > > > moon > > > > > it > > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages > that > > > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many > > > situations > > > > > where > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the > planet > > > gave > > > > > bad > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one > has > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet > > will > > > > > give > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal > > > pathak" > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, > have > > > said > > > > > that > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most > > > Malefic > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR > > > > Narsimha > > > > > Rao > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur > Purusha" > > > > like > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are > Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. > I > > am > > > > just > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement > > > shall > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the > basic > > > > > logic of > > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is > > > considered > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in > 3rd > > > & > > > > > they > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out > of > > > place > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > mention > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not > capable > > of > > > > > sucking > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction > from > > > > > atleast > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW > Bush. > > > He > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > Utpal > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" > > > Sthana > > > > for > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house > and > > > for > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > Lagna, > > > > > > > > > > ju > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned > member > > > > reply > > > > > to > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > astrology, "Prafulla > > > > > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd > house. > > > For > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > natives, > > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in > > > tula > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will > > > aspect > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Dear Singh ji, Yes , i also think the same , but dear sir , this guy is in debt big debt , andwhen i saw this combination i was sure that he will come out of it. He did not have a job when he was in trouble (Rahu mahadasa).Now after 3 years of jup/jup gone he has just got a job. but dont understand then why rahu dasa was bad for the native???? regards Prashant vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > Yes rahu in 11th house is good for financial gains. Jupiter being in > rahu's nakshatra will energize the 11th house rahu during jupiter > mahadasha. The native can expect good results during Jupiter > mahadasha and rahu bhukti. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > Sir then in this case , 11th house is for speculation , or luck , > > then that means that the native will earn money or get money from > > shares , lotteries , or ??? > > > > can u pls put some light in this area , pls > > > > thanking you > > > > > > Regards > > > > Prashu > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I agree with you. > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > But ,sir, though the node is in the 11th house , and jupiter is > > in > > > > rahu nakahatra , and rahu in the 11th house wont it give a > > chance > > > of > > > > sudden raise in status of the native in regards to family life > > and > > > > money , and jupiter rules the 11th and 2nd house??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not > > give > > > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th > > > house. > > > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may > be > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet > > > > > > importance depends on it...... right, > > > > > > > > > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra > lord > > is > > > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that > > > > > > concluded .????? > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare > > silly > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > > > > will wait for ur reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the > > > condition > > > > > and > > > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located > in > > > > 12th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of > > that > > > > > planet > > > > > > is > > > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under > > > > > > consideration > > > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is located > > in > > > > 6th > > > > > or > > > > > > > 8th or 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th > > > house > > > > > for > > > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules > bad > > > > houses > > > > > > and > > > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under > > consideration > > > > will > > > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is > exalted > > in > > > > 9th > > > > > > or > > > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant > > > > > <prashant37@g...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the > > logic , > > > of > > > > > > > jupiter rulling > > > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is > > big b > > > > > > > lagna ) , and > > > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , > > and > > > > mer > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the first > > > > > > > > house . > > > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place > > > > stronly > > > > > > then > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the > ruler > > of > > > > > > 2nd , > > > > > > > and 11th > > > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > > > > > > > check this > > > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th > > > house > > > > and > > > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in > > moons > > > > > > > nakshatra, > > > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent > > > > results > > > > > > when > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th > > or > > > > 11th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn > > > > > mahadasha > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the > moon's > > > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. > > But > > > > > moon > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th > > house > > > > > lord > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending > > you > > > > the > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was > > going > > > > > > through > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > > > > > > > lottery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > > > > > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla > Gang" > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th > > > > house > > > > > > > lordship > > > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another > perspective, > > > 8th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk > gains, > > > > sudden > > > > > > > gains, > > > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, > > that > > > if > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include > > pure > > > > > somya > > > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any > > krur > > > > > > planets), > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question > is > > > > why? > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will > > be > > > > able > > > > > > to > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > wealth. > > > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than > > planet > > > > in > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always > runs > > at > > > > > risk > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and > > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. > > > Whereas, > > > > if > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd > > > > house > > > > > > will > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but > > the > > > > > > factors, > > > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such > > > > > delivery > > > > > > > factor > > > > > > > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation > > placement > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > root. > > > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver > > is a > > > > > > > question, > > > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the > > positioning > > > > from > > > > > > > moon's > > > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure > > > subha, > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what > > we > > > > may > > > > > > call > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other > > factors, > > > > > which > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th > > > > house > > > > > > which > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be > > more > > > of > > > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be > > modified > > > > with > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent > > results > > > if > > > > > > they > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time > > > > planets > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if > > they > > > > are > > > > > > in > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not > applying > > > > > > nakshatras > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh > > > Bachhan's > > > > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what > > > > > > > constellations > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember > > > > > correctly > > > > > > he > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed > > in > > > > the > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter > > the > > > > ruler > > > > > > of > > > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it > > is > > > > in > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from > > natal > > > > moon > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages > > that > > > > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many > > > > situations > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the > > planet > > > > gave > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one > > has > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet > > > will > > > > > > give > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- astrology, "utpal > > > > pathak" > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, > > have > > > > said > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most > > > > Malefic > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR > > > > > Narsimha > > > > > > Rao > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur > > Purusha" > > > > > like > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are > > Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. > > I > > > am > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as > judgement > > > > shall > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the > > basic > > > > > > logic of > > > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is > > > > considered > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in > > 3rd > > > > & > > > > > > they > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out > > of > > > > place > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > mention > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not > > capable > > > of > > > > > > sucking > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction > > from > > > > > > atleast > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW > > Bush. > > > > He > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > Utpal > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" > > > > Sthana > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house > > and > > > > for > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > Lagna, > > > > > > > > > > > ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned > > member > > > > > reply > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > > astrology, "Prafulla > > > > > > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd > > house. > > > > For > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > natives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad > in > > > > tula > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it > will > > > > aspect > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Please see the nakshatra lord of rahu. Then you will understand why rahu mahadasha was bad. Regards G. Singh vedic astrology, "prashant37" <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > Dear Singh ji, > > > Yes , i also think the same , but dear sir , this guy is in debt > big debt , andwhen i saw this combination i was sure that he will > come out of it. He did not have a job when he was in trouble (Rahu > mahadasa).Now after 3 years of jup/jup gone he has just got a job. > > but dont understand then why rahu dasa was bad for the native???? > > > regards > > Prashant > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > Yes rahu in 11th house is good for financial gains. Jupiter being > in > > rahu's nakshatra will energize the 11th house rahu during jupiter > > mahadasha. The native can expect good results during Jupiter > > mahadasha and rahu bhukti. > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Sir then in this case , 11th house is for speculation , or > luck , > > > then that means that the native will earn money or get money > from > > > shares , lotteries , or ??? > > > > > > can u pls put some light in this area , pls > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree with you. > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > But ,sir, though the node is in the 11th house , and jupiter > is > > > in > > > > > rahu nakahatra , and rahu in the 11th house wont it give a > > > chance > > > > of > > > > > sudden raise in status of the native in regards to family > life > > > and > > > > > money , and jupiter rules the 11th and 2nd house??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do > not > > > give > > > > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or > 12th > > > > house. > > > > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it > may > > be > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37" > > > > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the > planet > > > > > > > importance depends on it...... right, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra > > lord > > > is > > > > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does > that > > > > > > > concluded .????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my > questionsaare > > > silly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will wait for ur reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the > > > > condition > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be > located > > in > > > > > 12th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of > > > that > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under > > > > > > > consideration > > > > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is > located > > > in > > > > > 6th > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > 8th or 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or > 9th > > > > house > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules > > bad > > > > > houses > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under > > > consideration > > > > > will > > > > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is > > exalted > > > in > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant > > > > > > <prashant37@g...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji, > > > > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the > > > logic , > > > > of > > > > > > > > jupiter rulling > > > > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which > is > > > big b > > > > > > > > lagna ) , and > > > > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith > house , > > > and > > > > > mer > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the first > > > > > > > > > house . > > > > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is > place > > > > > stronly > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the > > ruler > > > of > > > > > > > 2nd , > > > > > > > > and 11th > > > > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan . > > > > > > > > > check this > > > > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march > > > > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding . > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and > 11th > > > > house > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in > > > moons > > > > > > > > nakshatra, > > > > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give > excellent > > > > > results > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, > 10th > > > or > > > > > 11th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in > saturn > > > > > > mahadasha > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the > > moon's > > > > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and > fame. > > > But > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the > 8th > > > house > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am > sending > > > you > > > > > the > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was > > > going > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > lord's bhukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993 > > > > > > > > > > lottery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST > > > > > > > > > > Brighton, MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically > 8th > > > > > house > > > > > > > > lordship > > > > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another > > perspective, > > > > 8th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk > > gains, > > > > > sudden > > > > > > > > gains, > > > > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, > > > that > > > > if > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to > include > > > pure > > > > > > somya > > > > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any > > > krur > > > > > > > planets), > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the > question > > is > > > > > why? > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, > will > > > be > > > > > able > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than > > > planet > > > > > in > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always > > runs > > > at > > > > > > risk > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. > and > > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. > > > > Whereas, > > > > > if > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th > 2nd > > > > > house > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; > but > > > the > > > > > > > factors, > > > > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if > such > > > > > > delivery > > > > > > > > factor > > > > > > > > > > > is obstructed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation > > > placement > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > root. > > > > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to > deliver > > > is a > > > > > > > > question, > > > > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the > > > positioning > > > > > from > > > > > > > > moon's > > > > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not > pure > > > > subha, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not > what > > > we > > > > > may > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other > > > factors, > > > > > > which > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in > 8th > > > > > house > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will > be > > > more > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be > > > modified > > > > > with > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > factors). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent > > > results > > > > if > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same > time > > > > > planets > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results > if > > > they > > > > > are > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not > > applying > > > > > > > nakshatras > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh > > > > Bachhan's > > > > > > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check > what > > > > > > > > constellations > > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I > remember > > > > > > correctly > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is > placed > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted > jupiter > > > the > > > > > ruler > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 2nd > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because > it > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from > > > natal > > > > > moon > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its > own > > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous > messages > > > that > > > > > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many > > > > > situations > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the > > > planet > > > > > gave > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if > one > > > has > > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which > planet > > > > will > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > astrology, "utpal > > > > > pathak" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic > Astrology, > > > have > > > > > said > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the > most > > > > > Malefic > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. > PVR > > > > > > Narsimha > > > > > > > Rao > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur > > > Purusha" > > > > > > like > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are > > > Wrong". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your > judgement. > > > I > > > > am > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as > > judgement > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > always > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained > the > > > basic > > > > > > > logic of > > > > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is > > > > > considered > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > Favourable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru > in > > > 3rd > > > > > & > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be > out > > > of > > > > > place > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > mention > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not > > > capable > > > > of > > > > > > > sucking > > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires > affliction > > > from > > > > > > > atleast > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of > GW > > > Bush. > > > > > He > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > > Utpal > > > > > Pathak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran > Karka" > > > > > Sthana > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that > house > > > and > > > > > for > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna, > > > > > > > > > > > > ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned > > > member > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- > > > > > astrology, "Prafulla > > > > > > > > Gang" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd > > > house. > > > > > For > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > natives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru > bad > > in > > > > > tula > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > > transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it > > will > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhagya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. 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