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Dear Narasimha ji

 

For me Transformation of space is welcome as long as it happens in the

same zodiac.The harmonic relationships existing between planets and

signs forms the basis for transformation.If so harmonics and

transformations basically represent the same,irrespective of the name

you call.

 

 

Shri K.Chandrahari has pointed about couple of things regarding

transforming Space.How do we interpret a transformed space

-Independent of the original space?.

 

In a map we can see that places X and Y are in the same longitude but

they are separated by 1000KM. In the Map we can walk across in a

second.Does it apply to geographical space.Without knowing how the

original space is modified in the sketch or Map, no use can be made of

a Map.

Can people in Chennai see Delhi and vice versa.In a list of places in

the same longitude we may write X and Y together – that does n't mean

that they are near or far. Under what criteria they come together must

be known.The criteria or scale regarding aspects,is the Rashi vs

Longitudinal disposition.

 

Also In Dasamsa Aries is ''transformed'' and you get Dasamsa up to

Capricorn. How the Taurus space is transformed to start dasamsa again

from Capricorn.Shall anyone draw a Map of India with different scales

for different States. Where has the harmony gone.Why does Varanasi

version of Dashamsha follow harmony.

 

My view is if one understands the underlying relationship between

planets and rashis - Rashi bhavas and their navamshas can be wisely

analysed/related.Shri Fiin through the examples given by Manik Chand

and Chandrashekharjis mail few days back all points towards such

interrelationships.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

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Dear Pradeep,

 

> Dear Narasimha ji> > For me Transformation of space is welcome as long as it

happens in the> same zodiac.

 

I am glad!

 

Yes, I do suggest that it is the same zodiac that is used in navamsa, dasamsa etc.

 

The term "rasi chart" can be misleading and make people think that it is the

only chart that contains "rasis". After all, navamsa, dasamsa etc charts also

contain exactly the same 12 rasis.

 

Parasara used the term "kshetra" for D-1. It may be a good idea to use the terms

kshetra chakra, hora chakra, drekkana chakra, navamsa chakra, dasamsa chakra

etc.

 

I do maintain that all the sixteen charts are the result of mapping the physical

positions onto the same zodiac using different maps.

 

If I define the symbols "kshetra lagna", "kshetra surya", "kshetra chandra" etc

and then "navamsa lagna", "navamsa surya", "navamsa chandra" etc, then "dasamsa

lagna", "dasamsa surya", "dasamsa chandra" etc and so on, you can construct one

big chart that contains all the 16x10=160 symbols (shodasa vargas of lagna and

nine planets). You can write a big chart that contains 12 rasis and each of the

160 symbols is in one rasi or the other. Each symbol is associated with a

particular longitude within the rasi it occupies.

 

You can study the interactions between all the 160 symbols. However, some of

these interactions are more well-understood than others. For convenience, we

write "kshetra lagna", "kshetra surya", "kshetra chandra" etc in one chart and

call it kshetra chakra (or rasi chakra) and analyze those 10 symbols together.

Similarly, we can write "navamsa lagna", "navamsa surya", "navamsa chandra" etc

together in one chart and call it navamsa chakra and analyze those 10 symbols

together.

 

It is also possible to write a chart with "navamsa lagna", "kshetra surya",

"kshetra chandra", "kshetra mangala" etc and analyze the ten symbols together.

Simialrly, it is possible to write a chart with "kshetra lagna", "navamsa

surya", "navamsa chandra", "navamsa mangala" etc and analyze the ten symbols

together. These two are the so-called "rasi tulya navamsa" and "navamsa tulya

rasi" charts.

 

Most of the well-known and well-understood charts (rasi chart, navamsa chart,

rasi tulya navamsa chart, navamsa tulya rasi chart, dasamsa chart etc) are

basically smaller subsets of this super-chart with 10 of the entities picked

out of 160.

 

But, there are so many different interactions possible within these 160

entities. There are even many possible arudhas. If one really tries to

understand, it is possible to understand the meanings of various interactions.

 

But the starting point is to stop discriminating against "navamsa Jupiter",

"dasamsa Jupiter" etc and givbe them the same treatment that is given to

"kshetra Jupiter". They are all similar entities. All have a rasi and a

longitude associated with them.

 

Thanks to everybody for the consideration given to my representation.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Dear Narasimha ji

 

> But the starting point is to stop discriminating against "navamsa

>Jupiter", "dasamsa Jupiter" etc and givbe them the same treatment

that >is given to "kshetra Jupiter". They are all similar entities.

All have a >rasi and a longitude associated with them.

>

 

You are right.It is not any special jupiter when we say ''Navamsha

Jupiter'' or ''dashamsha jupiter''.It is the same jupiter having

different influences on signs.For that reason when the same Jupiter is

placed in one rashi and and has influence with another rashi by virtue

of navamsha, results get modified.No one can see a modification

irrespective of Original.Myself never had a different view.

 

But we have only one longitude.I will explain my view in another mail

 

Thanks

Pradeep

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