Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Dear Narasimha ji For me Transformation of space is welcome as long as it happens in the same zodiac.The harmonic relationships existing between planets and signs forms the basis for transformation.If so harmonics and transformations basically represent the same,irrespective of the name you call. Shri K.Chandrahari has pointed about couple of things regarding transforming Space.How do we interpret a transformed space -Independent of the original space?. In a map we can see that places X and Y are in the same longitude but they are separated by 1000KM. In the Map we can walk across in a second.Does it apply to geographical space.Without knowing how the original space is modified in the sketch or Map, no use can be made of a Map. Can people in Chennai see Delhi and vice versa.In a list of places in the same longitude we may write X and Y together – that does n't mean that they are near or far. Under what criteria they come together must be known.The criteria or scale regarding aspects,is the Rashi vs Longitudinal disposition. Also In Dasamsa Aries is ''transformed'' and you get Dasamsa up to Capricorn. How the Taurus space is transformed to start dasamsa again from Capricorn.Shall anyone draw a Map of India with different scales for different States. Where has the harmony gone.Why does Varanasi version of Dashamsha follow harmony. My view is if one understands the underlying relationship between planets and rashis - Rashi bhavas and their navamshas can be wisely analysed/related.Shri Fiin through the examples given by Manik Chand and Chandrashekharjis mail few days back all points towards such interrelationships. Thanks Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Dear Pradeep, > Dear Narasimha ji> > For me Transformation of space is welcome as long as it happens in the> same zodiac. I am glad! Yes, I do suggest that it is the same zodiac that is used in navamsa, dasamsa etc. The term "rasi chart" can be misleading and make people think that it is the only chart that contains "rasis". After all, navamsa, dasamsa etc charts also contain exactly the same 12 rasis. Parasara used the term "kshetra" for D-1. It may be a good idea to use the terms kshetra chakra, hora chakra, drekkana chakra, navamsa chakra, dasamsa chakra etc. I do maintain that all the sixteen charts are the result of mapping the physical positions onto the same zodiac using different maps. If I define the symbols "kshetra lagna", "kshetra surya", "kshetra chandra" etc and then "navamsa lagna", "navamsa surya", "navamsa chandra" etc, then "dasamsa lagna", "dasamsa surya", "dasamsa chandra" etc and so on, you can construct one big chart that contains all the 16x10=160 symbols (shodasa vargas of lagna and nine planets). You can write a big chart that contains 12 rasis and each of the 160 symbols is in one rasi or the other. Each symbol is associated with a particular longitude within the rasi it occupies. You can study the interactions between all the 160 symbols. However, some of these interactions are more well-understood than others. For convenience, we write "kshetra lagna", "kshetra surya", "kshetra chandra" etc in one chart and call it kshetra chakra (or rasi chakra) and analyze those 10 symbols together. Similarly, we can write "navamsa lagna", "navamsa surya", "navamsa chandra" etc together in one chart and call it navamsa chakra and analyze those 10 symbols together. It is also possible to write a chart with "navamsa lagna", "kshetra surya", "kshetra chandra", "kshetra mangala" etc and analyze the ten symbols together. Simialrly, it is possible to write a chart with "kshetra lagna", "navamsa surya", "navamsa chandra", "navamsa mangala" etc and analyze the ten symbols together. These two are the so-called "rasi tulya navamsa" and "navamsa tulya rasi" charts. Most of the well-known and well-understood charts (rasi chart, navamsa chart, rasi tulya navamsa chart, navamsa tulya rasi chart, dasamsa chart etc) are basically smaller subsets of this super-chart with 10 of the entities picked out of 160. But, there are so many different interactions possible within these 160 entities. There are even many possible arudhas. If one really tries to understand, it is possible to understand the meanings of various interactions. But the starting point is to stop discriminating against "navamsa Jupiter", "dasamsa Jupiter" etc and givbe them the same treatment that is given to "kshetra Jupiter". They are all similar entities. All have a rasi and a longitude associated with them. Thanks to everybody for the consideration given to my representation. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Dear Narasimha ji > But the starting point is to stop discriminating against "navamsa >Jupiter", "dasamsa Jupiter" etc and givbe them the same treatment that >is given to "kshetra Jupiter". They are all similar entities. All have a >rasi and a longitude associated with them. > You are right.It is not any special jupiter when we say ''Navamsha Jupiter'' or ''dashamsha jupiter''.It is the same jupiter having different influences on signs.For that reason when the same Jupiter is placed in one rashi and and has influence with another rashi by virtue of navamsha, results get modified.No one can see a modification irrespective of Original.Myself never had a different view. But we have only one longitude.I will explain my view in another mail Thanks Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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