why is guru bad in 3rd house transit - Shri Singh

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Namaste Shri Singh,

 

Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th & placed

in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in 12th. he is

going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since then he

seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in his

profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey, Children,

Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with IAVA, SJC

everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose lord is a

Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

 

Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to defeat your

observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by just

giving one example. One case is always far far away from forming a

definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

 

1) principle which you seems to be spreading that "Nakshatra Lord's"

position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive technique.

 

2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list don't

consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

 

If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very high regards

for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra Despositor of any

planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the planet & I

have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal opinion, i

wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position in a

chart becuase i have experienced that it carries considerable

influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's predictive

characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a supporting

factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

 

I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses them in

their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an opinion that

members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

 

Happy Diwali

 

Utpal Pathak

 

 

vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

<hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

>

> My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not give

> good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th house.

> But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be

> better.

>

> G. Singh

>

>

> vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear G singh ji ,

> >

> >

> > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet

> > importance depends on it...... right,

> >

> > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord is

> > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that

> > concluded .?????

> >

> > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare silly

> >

> > thanking you

> >

> > will wait for ur reply

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> > prashu

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prashu,

> > >

> > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the condition

> and

> > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in 12th

> > house

> > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that

> planet

> > is

> > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under

> > consideration

> > > will still give excellent results although it is located in 6th

> or

> > > 8th or 12th house.

> > >

> > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th house

> for

> > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad

houses

> > and

> > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration

will

> > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in

9th

> > or

> > > 11th house.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > G. Singh

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> <prashant37@g...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic , of

> > > jupiter rulling

> > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b

> > > lagna ) , and

> > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and

mer

> > in

> > > the first

> > > > house .

> > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place

stronly

> > then

> > > the

> > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of

> > 2nd ,

> > > and 11th

> > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > check this

> > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > thanking you

> > > > Regards

> > > > Prashu

> > > >

> > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th house

and

> > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons

> > > nakshatra,

> > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent

results

> > when

> > > the

> > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or

11th

> > > house

> > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn

> mahadasha

> > and

> > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's

> > nakshatra.

> > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But

> moon

> > > also

> > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house

> lord

> > is

> > > not

> > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you

the

> > > birth

> > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going

> > through

> > > 8th

> > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > lottery

> > > > >

> > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > G. Singh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

> > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th house

> > > lordship

> > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective, 8th

> > house

> > > is

> > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains,

sudden

> > > gains,

> > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that if

> > venus

> > > and

> > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure

> somya

> > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur

> > planets),

> > > > > will

> > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is why?

> > 8th

> > > house

> > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be

able

> > to

> > > give

> > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet in

> 8th

> > > > > house.

> > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at

> risk

> > of

> > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and with

the

> > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors. Whereas,

if

> > > planet

> > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd house

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the

> > factors,

> > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such

> delivery

> > > factor

> > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement is

> the

> > > root.

> > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a

> > > question,

> > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning

from

> > > moon's

> > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure subha,

and

> > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we

may

> > call

> > > it

> > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors,

> which

> > has

> > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th house

> > which

> > > has

> > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more of

> > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified

with

> > other

> > > > > > factors).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results if

> > they

> > > are

> > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time

planets

> > in

> > > 9th

> > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they

are

> > in

> > > bad

> > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying

> > nakshatras

> > > > > that

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh Bachhan's

> > > astrology

> > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what

> > > constellations

> > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember

> correctly

> > he

> > > has

> > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in the

> > 9th

> > > house

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the

ruler

> > of

> > > 2nd

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is in

> 3rd

> > > > > house.

> > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal

moon

> > it

> > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own

nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that

> > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

situations

> > where

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet

gave

> > bad

> > > or

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has

> > > knowledge

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet will

> > give

> > > bad

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have

said

> > that

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most

Malefic

> > of

> > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR

> Narsimha

> > Rao

> > > > > has

> > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha"

> like

> > you

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong".

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I am

> just

> > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement

shall

> > > always

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic

> > logic of

> > > > > why

> > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

considered

> > not

> > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd &

> > they

> > > have

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of

place

> > to

> > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable of

> > sucking

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from

> > atleast

> > > one

> > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush.

He

> > has

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal

Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka" Sthana

> for

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and

for

> > Leo

> > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member

> reply

> > to

> > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "Prafulla

> > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house.

For

> > Leo

> > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in tula

> > rasi

> > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will

aspect

> > 7th

> > > > > > house,

> > > > > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered bad

> > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

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[Guest guest]

Dear Utpal ji,

 

i am a baby in astrology , but one of my KP style friend also

commented that nakashatra lord position is imp .

 

i am a baby in astrology and dont have much knoweldge and learning

from this forum.

 

What do u reckon from the below example

 

10th march 1974

bombay 06:30am

 

What do u think about the native ???

 

REGARDS

 

prashu

 

 

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

>

> Namaste Shri Singh,

>

> Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th & placed

> in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in 12th. he

is

> going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since then he

> seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in his

> profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey, Children,

> Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with IAVA,

SJC

> everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose lord

is a

> Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

>

> Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to defeat your

> observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by just

> giving one example. One case is always far far away from forming a

> definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

>

> 1) principle which you seems to be spreading that "Nakshatra

Lord's"

> position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive technique.

>

> 2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list don't

> consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

>

> If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very high

regards

> for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra Despositor of

any

> planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the planet & I

> have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal opinion,

i

> wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position in a

> chart becuase i have experienced that it carries considerable

> influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's

predictive

> characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a

supporting

> factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

>

> I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses them

in

> their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an opinion that

> members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

>

> Happy Diwali

>

> Utpal Pathak

>

>

> vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> >

> > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not

give

> > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th

house.

> > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be

> > better.

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> > <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear G singh ji ,

> > >

> > >

> > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet

> > > importance depends on it...... right,

> > >

> > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord

is

> > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that

> > > concluded .?????

> > >

> > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare

silly

> > >

> > > thanking you

> > >

> > > will wait for ur reply

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > prashu

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashu,

> > > >

> > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the

condition

> > and

> > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in

12th

> > > house

> > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that

> > planet

> > > is

> > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under

> > > consideration

> > > > will still give excellent results although it is located in

6th

> > or

> > > > 8th or 12th house.

> > > >

> > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th

house

> > for

> > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad

> houses

> > > and

> > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration

> will

> > > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted

in

> 9th

> > > or

> > > > 11th house.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > G. Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> > <prashant37@g...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic ,

of

> > > > jupiter rulling

> > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big

b

> > > > lagna ) , and

> > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house ,

and

> mer

> > > in

> > > > the first

> > > > > house .

> > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place

> stronly

> > > then

> > > > the

> > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler

of

> > > 2nd ,

> > > > and 11th

> > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > > check this

> > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > > thanking you

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Prashu

> > > > >

> > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th

house

> and

> > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons

> > > > nakshatra,

> > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent

> results

> > > when

> > > > the

> > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or

> 11th

> > > > house

> > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn

> > mahadasha

> > > and

> > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's

> > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame.

But

> > moon

> > > > also

> > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th

house

> > lord

> > > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending

you

> the

> > > > birth

> > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going

> > > through

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > > lottery

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

> > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th

house

> > > > lordship

> > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective,

8th

> > > house

> > > > is

> > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains,

> sudden

> > > > gains,

> > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that

if

> > > venus

> > > > and

> > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include

pure

> > somya

> > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur

> > > planets),

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is

why?

> > > 8th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be

> able

> > > to

> > > > give

> > > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet

in

> > 8th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs

at

> > risk

> > > of

> > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and

with

> the

> > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors.

Whereas,

> if

> > > > planet

> > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd

house

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but

the

> > > factors,

> > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such

> > delivery

> > > > factor

> > > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement

is

> > the

> > > > root.

> > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is

a

> > > > question,

> > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning

> from

> > > > moon's

> > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure

subha,

> and

> > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we

> may

> > > call

> > > > it

> > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors,

> > which

> > > has

> > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th

house

> > > which

> > > > has

> > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more

of

> > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified

> with

> > > other

> > > > > > > factors).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results

if

> > > they

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time

> planets

> > > in

> > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if

they

> are

> > > in

> > > > bad

> > > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying

> > > nakshatras

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh

Bachhan's

> > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what

> > > > constellations

> > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember

> > correctly

> > > he

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in

the

> > > 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the

> ruler

> > > of

> > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is

in

> > 3rd

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal

> moon

> > > it

> > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own

> nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages

that

> > > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

> situations

> > > where

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet

> gave

> > > bad

> > > > or

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one

has

> > > > knowledge

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet

will

> > > give

> > > > bad

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal

pathak"

> > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have

> said

> > > that

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most

> Malefic

> > > of

> > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR

> > Narsimha

> > > Rao

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur

Purusha"

> > like

> > > you

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong".

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I

am

> > just

> > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement

> shall

> > > > always

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the

basic

> > > logic of

> > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

> considered

> > > not

> > > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in

3rd &

> > > they

> > > > have

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of

> place

> > > to

> > > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable

of

> > > sucking

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction

from

> > > atleast

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW

Bush.

> He

> > > has

> > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal

> Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka"

Sthana

> > for

> > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house

and

> for

> > > Leo

> > > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member

> > reply

> > > to

> > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "Prafulla

> > > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house.

> For

> > > Leo

> > > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in

tula

> > > rasi

> > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will

> aspect

> > > 7th

> > > > > > > house,

> > > > > > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered

bad

> > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

hello Utpal,

 

Very interesting discussion, I have seen PVR's chart quickly. I

will give you my comments on his mercury only. The complete chart

reading may take couple of hours, may be some other time.

 

Mercury is a good planet for his chart as it rules his ascendant and

10th house but is placed in 8th house, and surrounded by 6th lord

saturn and 8th lord mars, and 2nd and 9th lord venus. But luckily

mercury is closer to venus, which is good.

 

Mercury is deposited in the nakshatra of ketu, and ketu is in the

12th house. So during mercury mahadasha, mercury will energize Ketu

in the 12th house. Ketu in 12th house represents spirituality,

moksha, and foreign travels. As mercury rules the lagna so the person

will be highly spiritual, mercury also rules 10th house so the career

will be related to sprituality. Ketu is in 12th house so the person

travels to foreign countries. In my opinion he will be more

successful in a spriitual career than in any other profession.

He is going through Mercury / Rahu period until Jan 2007. He will go

through some problems when saturn will transit his natal ketu in leo,

and come opposite his natal rahu and natal moon in 6th house.

 

Regards

 

G. Singh

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

>

> Namaste Shri Singh,

>

> Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th & placed

> in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in 12th. he

is

> going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since then he

> seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in his

> profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey, Children,

> Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with IAVA,

SJC

> everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose lord is

a

> Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

>

> Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to defeat your

> observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by just

> giving one example. One case is always far far away from forming a

> definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

>

> 1) principle which you seems to be spreading that "Nakshatra

Lord's"

> position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive technique.

>

> 2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list don't

> consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

>

> If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very high

regards

> for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra Despositor of

any

> planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the planet & I

> have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal opinion,

i

> wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position in a

> chart becuase i have experienced that it carries considerable

> influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's predictive

> characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a supporting

> factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

>

> I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses them in

> their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an opinion that

> members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

>

> Happy Diwali

>

> Utpal Pathak

>

>

> vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> >

> > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not give

> > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th

house.

> > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be

> > better.

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> > <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear G singh ji ,

> > >

> > >

> > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet

> > > importance depends on it...... right,

> > >

> > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord is

> > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that

> > > concluded .?????

> > >

> > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare silly

> > >

> > > thanking you

> > >

> > > will wait for ur reply

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > prashu

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashu,

> > > >

> > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the

condition

> > and

> > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in

12th

> > > house

> > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that

> > planet

> > > is

> > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under

> > > consideration

> > > > will still give excellent results although it is located in

6th

> > or

> > > > 8th or 12th house.

> > > >

> > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th

house

> > for

> > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad

> houses

> > > and

> > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under consideration

> will

> > > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted in

> 9th

> > > or

> > > > 11th house.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > G. Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> > <prashant37@g...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic ,

of

> > > > jupiter rulling

> > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big b

> > > > lagna ) , and

> > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house , and

> mer

> > > in

> > > > the first

> > > > > house .

> > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place

> stronly

> > > then

> > > > the

> > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler of

> > > 2nd ,

> > > > and 11th

> > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > > check this

> > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > > thanking you

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Prashu

> > > > >

> > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th

house

> and

> > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in moons

> > > > nakshatra,

> > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent

> results

> > > when

> > > > the

> > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th or

> 11th

> > > > house

> > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn

> > mahadasha

> > > and

> > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's

> > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame. But

> > moon

> > > > also

> > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th house

> > lord

> > > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending you

> the

> > > > birth

> > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was going

> > > through

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > > lottery

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

> > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th

house

> > > > lordship

> > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective,

8th

> > > house

> > > > is

> > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains,

> sudden

> > > > gains,

> > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that

if

> > > venus

> > > > and

> > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include pure

> > somya

> > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur

> > > planets),

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is

why?

> > > 8th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will be

> able

> > > to

> > > > give

> > > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than planet

in

> > 8th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs at

> > risk

> > > of

> > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and

with

> the

> > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors.

Whereas,

> if

> > > > planet

> > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd

house

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but the

> > > factors,

> > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such

> > delivery

> > > > factor

> > > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement

is

> > the

> > > > root.

> > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is a

> > > > question,

> > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning

> from

> > > > moon's

> > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure

subha,

> and

> > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what we

> may

> > > call

> > > > it

> > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other factors,

> > which

> > > has

> > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th

house

> > > which

> > > > has

> > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be more

of

> > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified

> with

> > > other

> > > > > > > factors).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results

if

> > > they

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time

> planets

> > > in

> > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if they

> are

> > > in

> > > > bad

> > > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying

> > > nakshatras

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh

Bachhan's

> > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what

> > > > constellations

> > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember

> > correctly

> > > he

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in

the

> > > 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the

> ruler

> > > of

> > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it is

in

> > 3rd

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from natal

> moon

> > > it

> > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own

> nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages that

> > > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

> situations

> > > where

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the planet

> gave

> > > bad

> > > > or

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one has

> > > > knowledge

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet

will

> > > give

> > > > bad

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal

pathak"

> > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology, have

> said

> > > that

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most

> Malefic

> > > of

> > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR

> > Narsimha

> > > Rao

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur Purusha"

> > like

> > > you

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong".

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I

am

> > just

> > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement

> shall

> > > > always

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the basic

> > > logic of

> > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

> considered

> > > not

> > > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in 3rd

&

> > > they

> > > > have

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of

> place

> > > to

> > > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable

of

> > > sucking

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction from

> > > atleast

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW Bush.

> He

> > > has

> > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal

> Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka"

Sthana

> > for

> > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house and

> for

> > > Leo

> > > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned member

> > reply

> > > to

> > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "Prafulla

> > > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd house.

> For

> > > Leo

> > > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in

tula

> > > rasi

> > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will

> aspect

> > > 7th

> > > > > > > house,

> > > > > > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered

bad

> > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Singh

 

To judge ketu is difficult. Generall we take his dispositor and

aspectors. here dispositor is Sun in 7th house and moon the aspector

in 6th house. So ketu is behaving more like sun and moon and sun

being in 7th house can give distant travels, marriage, moon can give

health related issues.

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

<hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

>

> hello Utpal,

>

> Very interesting discussion, I have seen PVR's chart quickly. I

> will give you my comments on his mercury only. The complete chart

> reading may take couple of hours, may be some other time.

>

> Mercury is a good planet for his chart as it rules his ascendant

and

> 10th house but is placed in 8th house, and surrounded by 6th lord

> saturn and 8th lord mars, and 2nd and 9th lord venus. But luckily

> mercury is closer to venus, which is good.

>

> Mercury is deposited in the nakshatra of ketu, and ketu is in the

> 12th house. So during mercury mahadasha, mercury will energize Ketu

> in the 12th house. Ketu in 12th house represents spirituality,

> moksha, and foreign travels. As mercury rules the lagna so the

person

> will be highly spiritual, mercury also rules 10th house so the

career

> will be related to sprituality. Ketu is in 12th house so the person

> travels to foreign countries. In my opinion he will be more

> successful in a spriitual career than in any other profession.

> He is going through Mercury / Rahu period until Jan 2007. He will

go

> through some problems when saturn will transit his natal ketu in

leo,

> and come opposite his natal rahu and natal moon in 6th house.

>

> Regards

>

> G. Singh

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Shri Singh,

> >

> > Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th & placed

> > in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in 12th. he

> is

> > going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since then

he

> > seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in his

> > profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey, Children,

> > Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with IAVA,

> SJC

> > everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose lord

is

> a

> > Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

> >

> > Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to defeat your

> > observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by just

> > giving one example. One case is always far far away from forming

a

> > definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

> >

> > 1) principle which you seems to be spreading that "Nakshatra

> Lord's"

> > position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive technique.

> >

> > 2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list don't

> > consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

> >

> > If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very high

> regards

> > for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra Despositor of

> any

> > planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the planet &

I

> > have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal

opinion,

> i

> > wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position in a

> > chart becuase i have experienced that it carries considerable

> > influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's

predictive

> > characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a

supporting

> > factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

> >

> > I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses them

in

> > their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an opinion

that

> > members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

> >

> > Happy Diwali

> >

> > Utpal Pathak

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > >

> > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not

give

> > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th

> house.

> > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may be

> > > better.

> > >

> > > G. Singh

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> > > <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear G singh ji ,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet

> > > > importance depends on it...... right,

> > > >

> > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra lord

is

> > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that

> > > > concluded .?????

> > > >

> > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare

silly

> > > >

> > > > thanking you

> > > >

> > > > will wait for ur reply

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > prashu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prashu,

> > > > >

> > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the

> condition

> > > and

> > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located in

> 12th

> > > > house

> > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of that

> > > planet

> > > > is

> > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under

> > > > consideration

> > > > > will still give excellent results although it is located in

> 6th

> > > or

> > > > > 8th or 12th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th

> house

> > > for

> > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules bad

> > houses

> > > > and

> > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under

consideration

> > will

> > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is exalted

in

> > 9th

> > > > or

> > > > > 11th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > G. Singh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> > > <prashant37@g...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the logic ,

> of

> > > > > jupiter rulling

> > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is big

b

> > > > > lagna ) , and

> > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house ,

and

> > mer

> > > > in

> > > > > the first

> > > > > > house .

> > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place

> > stronly

> > > > then

> > > > > the

> > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the ruler

of

> > > > 2nd ,

> > > > > and 11th

> > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > > > check this

> > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > > > thanking you

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Prashu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th

> house

> > and

> > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in

moons

> > > > > nakshatra,

> > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent

> > results

> > > > when

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th

or

> > 11th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn

> > > mahadasha

> > > > and

> > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the moon's

> > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame.

But

> > > moon

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th

house

> > > lord

> > > > is

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending

you

> > the

> > > > > birth

> > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was

going

> > > > through

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > > > lottery

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

> > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th

> house

> > > > > lordship

> > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another perspective,

> 8th

> > > > house

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk gains,

> > sudden

> > > > > gains,

> > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells, that

> if

> > > > venus

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include

pure

> > > somya

> > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any krur

> > > > planets),

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question is

> why?

> > > > 8th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will

be

> > able

> > > > to

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than

planet

> in

> > > 8th

> > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always runs

at

> > > risk

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and

> with

> > the

> > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors.

> Whereas,

> > if

> > > > > planet

> > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd

> house

> > > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but

the

> > > > factors,

> > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such

> > > delivery

> > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation placement

> is

> > > the

> > > > > root.

> > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver is

a

> > > > > question,

> > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the positioning

> > from

> > > > > moon's

> > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure

> subha,

> > and

> > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what

we

> > may

> > > > call

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other

factors,

> > > which

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th

> house

> > > > which

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be

more

> of

> > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be modified

> > with

> > > > other

> > > > > > > > factors).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent results

> if

> > > > they

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time

> > planets

> > > > in

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if

they

> > are

> > > > in

> > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not applying

> > > > nakshatras

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh

> Bachhan's

> > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what

> > > > > constellations

> > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember

> > > correctly

> > > > he

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed in

> the

> > > > 9th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter the

> > ruler

> > > > of

> > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it

is

> in

> > > 3rd

> > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from

natal

> > moon

> > > > it

> > > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own

> > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages

that

> > > > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

> > situations

> > > > where

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the

planet

> > gave

> > > > bad

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one

has

> > > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet

> will

> > > > give

> > > > > bad

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal

> pathak"

> > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology,

have

> > said

> > > > that

> > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most

> > Malefic

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR

> > > Narsimha

> > > > Rao

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur

Purusha"

> > > like

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are Wrong".

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement. I

> am

> > > just

> > > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as judgement

> > shall

> > > > > always

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the

basic

> > > > logic of

> > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

> > considered

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in

3rd

> &

> > > > they

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out of

> > place

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not capable

> of

> > > > sucking

> > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction

from

> > > > atleast

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW

Bush.

> > He

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Utpal

> > Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka"

> Sthana

> > > for

> > > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house

and

> > for

> > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned

member

> > > reply

> > > > to

> > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "Prafulla

> > > > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd

house.

> > For

> > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad in

> tula

> > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it will

> > aspect

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > house,

> > > > > > > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be considered

> bad

> > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Partha,

 

His Ketu mahadasha will be good because ketu is in the venus

nakshatra, the ruler of 2nd and 9th house, but there will be some

loss also as venus is placed in the 8th house.

 

Regards

 

G. Singh

 

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu@g...> wrote:

>

> Dear Singh

>

> To judge ketu is difficult. Generall we take his dispositor and

> aspectors. here dispositor is Sun in 7th house and moon the

aspector

> in 6th house. So ketu is behaving more like sun and moon and sun

> being in 7th house can give distant travels, marriage, moon can

give

> health related issues.

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> >

> > hello Utpal,

> >

> > Very interesting discussion, I have seen PVR's chart quickly. I

> > will give you my comments on his mercury only. The complete chart

> > reading may take couple of hours, may be some other time.

> >

> > Mercury is a good planet for his chart as it rules his ascendant

> and

> > 10th house but is placed in 8th house, and surrounded by 6th lord

> > saturn and 8th lord mars, and 2nd and 9th lord venus. But luckily

> > mercury is closer to venus, which is good.

> >

> > Mercury is deposited in the nakshatra of ketu, and ketu is in the

> > 12th house. So during mercury mahadasha, mercury will energize

Ketu

> > in the 12th house. Ketu in 12th house represents spirituality,

> > moksha, and foreign travels. As mercury rules the lagna so the

> person

> > will be highly spiritual, mercury also rules 10th house so the

> career

> > will be related to sprituality. Ketu is in 12th house so the

person

> > travels to foreign countries. In my opinion he will be more

> > successful in a spriitual career than in any other profession.

> > He is going through Mercury / Rahu period until Jan 2007. He will

> go

> > through some problems when saturn will transit his natal ketu in

> leo,

> > and come opposite his natal rahu and natal moon in 6th house.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Shri Singh,

> > >

> > > Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th &

placed

> > > in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in 12th.

he

> > is

> > > going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since then

> he

> > > seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in his

> > > profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey, Children,

> > > Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with

IAVA,

> > SJC

> > > everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose

lord

> is

> > a

> > > Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

> > >

> > > Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to defeat

your

> > > observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by just

> > > giving one example. One case is always far far away from

forming

> a

> > > definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

> > >

> > > 1) principle which you seems to be spreading that "Nakshatra

> > Lord's"

> > > position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive technique.

> > >

> > > 2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list don't

> > > consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

> > >

> > > If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very high

> > regards

> > > for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra Despositor

of

> > any

> > > planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the planet

&

> I

> > > have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal

> opinion,

> > i

> > > wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position in

a

> > > chart becuase i have experienced that it carries considerable

> > > influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's

> predictive

> > > characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a

> supporting

> > > factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

> > >

> > > I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses

them

> in

> > > their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an opinion

> that

> > > members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

> > >

> > > Happy Diwali

> > >

> > > Utpal Pathak

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not

> give

> > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th

> > house.

> > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may

be

> > > > better.

> > > >

> > > > G. Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear G singh ji ,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet

> > > > > importance depends on it...... right,

> > > > >

> > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra

lord

> is

> > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that

> > > > > concluded .?????

> > > > >

> > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare

> silly

> > > > >

> > > > > thanking you

> > > > >

> > > > > will wait for ur reply

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > prashu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the

> > condition

> > > > and

> > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located

in

> > 12th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of

that

> > > > planet

> > > > > is

> > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under

> > > > > consideration

> > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is located

in

> > 6th

> > > > or

> > > > > > 8th or 12th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th

> > house

> > > > for

> > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules

bad

> > > houses

> > > > > and

> > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under

> consideration

> > > will

> > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is

exalted

> in

> > > 9th

> > > > > or

> > > > > > 11th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> > > > <prashant37@g...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the

logic ,

> > of

> > > > > > jupiter rulling

> > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is

big

> b

> > > > > > lagna ) , and

> > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house ,

> and

> > > mer

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the first

> > > > > > > house .

> > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place

> > > stronly

> > > > > then

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the

ruler

> of

> > > > > 2nd ,

> > > > > > and 11th

> > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > > > > check this

> > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > > > > thanking you

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Prashu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th

> > house

> > > and

> > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in

> moons

> > > > > > nakshatra,

> > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent

> > > results

> > > > > when

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th

> or

> > > 11th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn

> > > > mahadasha

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the

moon's

> > > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame.

> But

> > > > moon

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th

> house

> > > > lord

> > > > > is

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending

> you

> > > the

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was

> going

> > > > > through

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > > > > lottery

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla

Gang"

> > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th

> > house

> > > > > > lordship

> > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another

perspective,

> > 8th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk

gains,

> > > sudden

> > > > > > gains,

> > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells,

that

> > if

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include

> pure

> > > > somya

> > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any

krur

> > > > > planets),

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question

is

> > why?

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will

> be

> > > able

> > > > > to

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than

> planet

> > in

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always

runs

> at

> > > > risk

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and

> > with

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors.

> > Whereas,

> > > if

> > > > > > planet

> > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd

> > house

> > > > > will

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but

> the

> > > > > factors,

> > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such

> > > > delivery

> > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation

placement

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > root.

> > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver

is

> a

> > > > > > question,

> > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the

positioning

> > > from

> > > > > > moon's

> > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure

> > subha,

> > > and

> > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what

> we

> > > may

> > > > > call

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other

> factors,

> > > > which

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th

> > house

> > > > > which

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be

> more

> > of

> > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be

modified

> > > with

> > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > factors).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent

results

> > if

> > > > > they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time

> > > planets

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if

> they

> > > are

> > > > > in

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not

applying

> > > > > nakshatras

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh

> > Bachhan's

> > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what

> > > > > > constellations

> > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember

> > > > correctly

> > > > > he

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed

in

> > the

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter

the

> > > ruler

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it

> is

> > in

> > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from

> natal

> > > moon

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own

> > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages

> that

> > > > > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

> > > situations

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the

> planet

> > > gave

> > > > > bad

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one

> has

> > > > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal

> > pathak"

> > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology,

> have

> > > said

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most

> > > Malefic

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR

> > > > Narsimha

> > > > > Rao

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur

> Purusha"

> > > > like

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are

Wrong".

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement.

I

> > am

> > > > just

> > > > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as

judgement

> > > shall

> > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the

> basic

> > > > > logic of

> > > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

> > > considered

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in

> 3rd

> > &

> > > > > they

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out

of

> > > place

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not

capable

> > of

> > > > > sucking

> > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction

> from

> > > > > atleast

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW

> Bush.

> > > He

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

Utpal

> > > Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka"

> > Sthana

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house

> and

> > > for

> > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned

> member

> > > > reply

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology, "Prafulla

> > > > > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd

> house.

> > > For

> > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad

in

> > tula

> > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it

will

> > > aspect

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > > house,

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be

considered

> > bad

> > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Singh

 

I was talking about Mercury dasa. As you said ketu is the nakshatra

lord of mercury placed in 12th. But ketu cannot give results on his

own, he gives based upon the rasi dispositor and the aspectors. As

you said he is also in 9th lord venus's nakshatra.

 

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

<hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

>

> Dear Partha,

>

> His Ketu mahadasha will be good because ketu is in the venus

> nakshatra, the ruler of 2nd and 9th house, but there will be some

> loss also as venus is placed in the 8th house.

>

> Regards

>

> G. Singh

>

>

> vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Singh

> >

> > To judge ketu is difficult. Generall we take his dispositor and

> > aspectors. here dispositor is Sun in 7th house and moon the

> aspector

> > in 6th house. So ketu is behaving more like sun and moon and sun

> > being in 7th house can give distant travels, marriage, moon can

> give

> > health related issues.

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > >

> > > hello Utpal,

> > >

> > > Very interesting discussion, I have seen PVR's chart quickly.

I

> > > will give you my comments on his mercury only. The complete

chart

> > > reading may take couple of hours, may be some other time.

> > >

> > > Mercury is a good planet for his chart as it rules his

ascendant

> > and

> > > 10th house but is placed in 8th house, and surrounded by 6th

lord

> > > saturn and 8th lord mars, and 2nd and 9th lord venus. But

luckily

> > > mercury is closer to venus, which is good.

> > >

> > > Mercury is deposited in the nakshatra of ketu, and ketu is in

the

> > > 12th house. So during mercury mahadasha, mercury will energize

> Ketu

> > > in the 12th house. Ketu in 12th house represents spirituality,

> > > moksha, and foreign travels. As mercury rules the lagna so the

> > person

> > > will be highly spiritual, mercury also rules 10th house so the

> > career

> > > will be related to sprituality. Ketu is in 12th house so the

> person

> > > travels to foreign countries. In my opinion he will be more

> > > successful in a spriitual career than in any other profession.

> > > He is going through Mercury / Rahu period until Jan 2007. He

will

> > go

> > > through some problems when saturn will transit his natal ketu

in

> > leo,

> > > and come opposite his natal rahu and natal moon in 6th house.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > G. Singh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Shri Singh,

> > > >

> > > > Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th &

> placed

> > > > in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in

12th.

> he

> > > is

> > > > going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since

then

> > he

> > > > seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in

his

> > > > profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey,

Children,

> > > > Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with

> IAVA,

> > > SJC

> > > > everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose

> lord

> > is

> > > a

> > > > Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

> > > >

> > > > Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to defeat

> your

> > > > observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by

just

> > > > giving one example. One case is always far far away from

> forming

> > a

> > > > definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

> > > >

> > > > 1) principle which you seems to be spreading that "Nakshatra

> > > Lord's"

> > > > position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive

technique.

> > > >

> > > > 2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list don't

> > > > consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

> > > >

> > > > If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very high

> > > regards

> > > > for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra Despositor

> of

> > > any

> > > > planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the

planet

> &

> > I

> > > > have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal

> > opinion,

> > > i

> > > > wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position

in

> a

> > > > chart becuase i have experienced that it carries considerable

> > > > influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's

> > predictive

> > > > characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a

> > supporting

> > > > factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

> > > >

> > > > I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses

> them

> > in

> > > > their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an opinion

> > that

> > > > members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

> > > >

> > > > Happy Diwali

> > > >

> > > > Utpal Pathak

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do

not

> > give

> > > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th

> > > house.

> > > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may

> be

> > > > > better.

> > > > >

> > > > > G. Singh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> > > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear G singh ji ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the

planet

> > > > > > importance depends on it...... right,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra

> lord

> > is

> > > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that

> > > > > > concluded .?????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare

> > silly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanking you

> > > > > >

> > > > > > will wait for ur reply

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > prashu

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prashu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the

> > > condition

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located

> in

> > > 12th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of

> that

> > > > > planet

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under

> > > > > > consideration

> > > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is

located

> in

> > > 6th

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > 8th or 12th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or

9th

> > > house

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules

> bad

> > > > houses

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under

> > consideration

> > > > will

> > > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is

> exalted

> > in

> > > > 9th

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > 11th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> > > > > <prashant37@g...>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the

> logic ,

> > > of

> > > > > > > jupiter rulling

> > > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is

> big

> > b

> > > > > > > lagna ) , and

> > > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith

house ,

> > and

> > > > mer

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > the first

> > > > > > > > house .

> > > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is

place

> > > > stronly

> > > > > > then

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the

> ruler

> > of

> > > > > > 2nd ,

> > > > > > > and 11th

> > > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > > > > > check this

> > > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > > > > > thanking you

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Prashu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and

11th

> > > house

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in

> > moons

> > > > > > > nakshatra,

> > > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give

excellent

> > > > results

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th,

10th

> > or

> > > > 11th

> > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in

saturn

> > > > > mahadasha

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the

> moon's

> > > > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and

fame.

> > But

> > > > > moon

> > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th

> > house

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am

sending

> > you

> > > > the

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was

> > going

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > > > > > lottery

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla

> Gang"

> > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically

8th

> > > house

> > > > > > > lordship

> > > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another

> perspective,

> > > 8th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk

> gains,

> > > > sudden

> > > > > > > gains,

> > > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells,

> that

> > > if

> > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to

include

> > pure

> > > > > somya

> > > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any

> krur

> > > > > > planets),

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question

> is

> > > why?

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result,

will

> > be

> > > > able

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than

> > planet

> > > in

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always

> runs

> > at

> > > > > risk

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself.

and

> > > with

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors.

> > > Whereas,

> > > > if

> > > > > > > planet

> > > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th

2nd

> > > house

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors;

but

> > the

> > > > > > factors,

> > > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if

such

> > > > > delivery

> > > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation

> placement

> > > is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > root.

> > > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to

deliver

> is

> > a

> > > > > > > question,

> > > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the

> positioning

> > > > from

> > > > > > > moon's

> > > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure

> > > subha,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not

what

> > we

> > > > may

> > > > > > call

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other

> > factors,

> > > > > which

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in

8th

> > > house

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be

> > more

> > > of

> > > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be

> modified

> > > > with

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > factors).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent

> results

> > > if

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same

time

> > > > planets

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results

if

> > they

> > > > are

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not

> applying

> > > > > > nakshatras

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh

> > > Bachhan's

> > > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check

what

> > > > > > > constellations

> > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I

remember

> > > > > correctly

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is

placed

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter

> the

> > > > ruler

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th

> house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because

it

> > is

> > > in

> > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from

> > natal

> > > > moon

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own

> > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous

messages

> > that

> > > > > > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

> > > > situations

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the

> > planet

> > > > gave

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if

one

> > has

> > > > > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which

planet

> > > will

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "utpal

> > > pathak"

> > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology,

> > have

> > > > said

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the

most

> > > > Malefic

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr.

PVR

> > > > > Narsimha

> > > > > > Rao

> > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur

> > Purusha"

> > > > > like

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are

> Wrong".

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your

judgement.

> I

> > > am

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as

> judgement

> > > > shall

> > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the

> > basic

> > > > > > logic of

> > > > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

> > > > considered

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru

in

> > 3rd

> > > &

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be

out

> of

> > > > place

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not

> capable

> > > of

> > > > > > sucking

> > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires

affliction

> > from

> > > > > > atleast

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW

> > Bush.

> > > > He

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

> Utpal

> > > > Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran

Karka"

> > > Sthana

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that

house

> > and

> > > > for

> > > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned

> > member

> > > > > reply

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd

> > house.

> > > > For

> > > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad

> in

> > > tula

> > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > However,

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> will

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What you mentioned will be true during ketu mahadasha.

 

Regards

 

G. Singh

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu@g...> wrote:

>

> Dear Singh

>

> I was talking about Mercury dasa. As you said ketu is the nakshatra

> lord of mercury placed in 12th. But ketu cannot give results on his

> own, he gives based upon the rasi dispositor and the aspectors. As

> you said he is also in 9th lord venus's nakshatra.

>

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Partha,

> >

> > His Ketu mahadasha will be good because ketu is in the venus

> > nakshatra, the ruler of 2nd and 9th house, but there will be some

> > loss also as venus is placed in the 8th house.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Singh

> > >

> > > To judge ketu is difficult. Generall we take his dispositor and

> > > aspectors. here dispositor is Sun in 7th house and moon the

> > aspector

> > > in 6th house. So ketu is behaving more like sun and moon and

sun

> > > being in 7th house can give distant travels, marriage, moon can

> > give

> > > health related issues.

> > > best wishes

> > > partha

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > hello Utpal,

> > > >

> > > > Very interesting discussion, I have seen PVR's chart

quickly.

> I

> > > > will give you my comments on his mercury only. The complete

> chart

> > > > reading may take couple of hours, may be some other time.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury is a good planet for his chart as it rules his

> ascendant

> > > and

> > > > 10th house but is placed in 8th house, and surrounded by 6th

> lord

> > > > saturn and 8th lord mars, and 2nd and 9th lord venus. But

> luckily

> > > > mercury is closer to venus, which is good.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury is deposited in the nakshatra of ketu, and ketu is in

> the

> > > > 12th house. So during mercury mahadasha, mercury will

energize

> > Ketu

> > > > in the 12th house. Ketu in 12th house represents

spirituality,

> > > > moksha, and foreign travels. As mercury rules the lagna so

the

> > > person

> > > > will be highly spiritual, mercury also rules 10th house so

the

> > > career

> > > > will be related to sprituality. Ketu is in 12th house so the

> > person

> > > > travels to foreign countries. In my opinion he will be more

> > > > successful in a spriitual career than in any other

profession.

> > > > He is going through Mercury / Rahu period until Jan 2007. He

> will

> > > go

> > > > through some problems when saturn will transit his natal ketu

> in

> > > leo,

> > > > and come opposite his natal rahu and natal moon in 6th house.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > G. Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Shri Singh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th &

> > placed

> > > > > in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in

> 12th.

> > he

> > > > is

> > > > > going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since

> then

> > > he

> > > > > seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in

> his

> > > > > profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey,

> Children,

> > > > > Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with

> > IAVA,

> > > > SJC

> > > > > everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose

> > lord

> > > is

> > > > a

> > > > > Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to

defeat

> > your

> > > > > observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by

> just

> > > > > giving one example. One case is always far far away from

> > forming

> > > a

> > > > > definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) principle which you seems to be spreading

that "Nakshatra

> > > > Lord's"

> > > > > position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive

> technique.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list

don't

> > > > > consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

> > > > >

> > > > > If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very

high

> > > > regards

> > > > > for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra

Despositor

> > of

> > > > any

> > > > > planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the

> planet

> > &

> > > I

> > > > > have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal

> > > opinion,

> > > > i

> > > > > wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position

> in

> > a

> > > > > chart becuase i have experienced that it carries

considerable

> > > > > influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's

> > > predictive

> > > > > characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a

> > > supporting

> > > > > factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses

> > them

> > > in

> > > > > their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an

opinion

> > > that

> > > > > members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

> > > > >

> > > > > Happy Diwali

> > > > >

> > > > > Utpal Pathak

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do

> not

> > > give

> > > > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or

12th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it

may

> > be

> > > > > > better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> > > > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear G singh ji ,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the

> planet

> > > > > > > importance depends on it...... right,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra

> > lord

> > > is

> > > > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does

that

> > > > > > > concluded .?????

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my

questionsaare

> > > silly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanking you

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > will wait for ur reply

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > prashu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Prashu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the

> > > > condition

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be

located

> > in

> > > > 12th

> > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord

of

> > that

> > > > > > planet

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet

under

> > > > > > > consideration

> > > > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is

> located

> > in

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > 8th or 12th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or

> 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet

rules

> > bad

> > > > > houses

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under

> > > consideration

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is

> > exalted

> > > in

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > 11th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> > > > > > <prashant37@g...>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the

> > logic ,

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > jupiter rulling

> > > > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which

is

> > big

> > > b

> > > > > > > > lagna ) , and

> > > > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith

> house ,

> > > and

> > > > > mer

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the first

> > > > > > > > > house .

> > > > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is

> place

> > > > > stronly

> > > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the

> > ruler

> > > of

> > > > > > > 2nd ,

> > > > > > > > and 11th

> > > > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > > > > > > check this

> > > > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > > > > > > thanking you

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Prashu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and

> 11th

> > > > house

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets

in

> > > moons

> > > > > > > > nakshatra,

> > > > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give

> excellent

> > > > > results

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th,

> 10th

> > > or

> > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in

> saturn

> > > > > > mahadasha

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the

> > moon's

> > > > > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and

> fame.

> > > But

> > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the

8th

> > > house

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am

> sending

> > > you

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he

was

> > > going

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > > > > > > lottery

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > > > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla

> > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically

> 8th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > > lordship

> > > > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another

> > perspective,

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk

> > gains,

> > > > > sudden

> > > > > > > > gains,

> > > > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita

tells,

> > that

> > > > if

> > > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to

> include

> > > pure

> > > > > > somya

> > > > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by

any

> > krur

> > > > > > > planets),

> > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the

question

> > is

> > > > why?

> > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result,

> will

> > > be

> > > > > able

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than

> > > planet

> > > > in

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always

> > runs

> > > at

> > > > > > risk

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself.

> and

> > > > with

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors.

> > > > Whereas,

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > > planet

> > > > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th

> 2nd

> > > > house

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors;

> but

> > > the

> > > > > > > factors,

> > > > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if

> such

> > > > > > delivery

> > > > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation

> > placement

> > > > is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > root.

> > > > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to

> deliver

> > is

> > > a

> > > > > > > > question,

> > > > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the

> > positioning

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > > moon's

> > > > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not

pure

> > > > subha,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not

> what

> > > we

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > call

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other

> > > factors,

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in

> 8th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will

be

> > > more

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be

> > modified

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > factors).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent

> > results

> > > > if

> > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same

> time

> > > > > planets

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results

> if

> > > they

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not

> > applying

> > > > > > > nakshatras

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh

> > > > Bachhan's

> > > > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check

> what

> > > > > > > > constellations

> > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I

> remember

> > > > > > correctly

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is

> placed

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted

jupiter

> > the

> > > > > ruler

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th

> > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad

because

> it

> > > is

> > > > in

> > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house

from

> > > natal

> > > > > moon

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its

own

> > > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous

> messages

> > > that

> > > > > > > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

> > > > > situations

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the

> > > planet

> > > > > gave

> > > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if

> one

> > > has

> > > > > > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which

> planet

> > > > will

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "utpal

> > > > pathak"

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic

Astrology,

> > > have

> > > > > said

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the

> most

> > > > > Malefic

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr.

> PVR

> > > > > > Narsimha

> > > > > > > Rao

> > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur

> > > Purusha"

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are

> > Wrong".

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your

> judgement.

> > I

> > > > am

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as

> > judgement

> > > > > shall

> > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained

the

> > > basic

> > > > > > > logic of

> > > > > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

> > > > > considered

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has

Guru

> in

> > > 3rd

> > > > &

> > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be

> out

> > of

> > > > > place

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not

> > capable

> > > > of

> > > > > > > sucking

> > > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires

> affliction

> > > from

> > > > > > > atleast

> > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for

all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of

GW

> > > Bush.

> > > > > He

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

> > Utpal

> > > > > Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran

> Karka"

> > > > Sthana

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that

> house

> > > and

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned

> > > member

> > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > > > astrology, "Prafulla

> > > > > > > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd

> > > house.

> > > > > For

> > > > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru

bad

> > in

> > > > tula

> > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it

> > will

> > > > > aspect

> > > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > > > > house,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be

> > considered

> > > > bad

> > > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

A lot depends on the nakshatra lord, the nature of the planet. If

there was rahu instead of ketu as nakshatra lord in the 12th house

results would have been totally different.

 

I apply KP System techniques. You mentioned all good things. But you

should see that ascendant lord and 10th lord in the company of 6th

lord saturn and 8th lord mars is not good. I like that mercury is

close to venus as venus is a good planet for his chart.

 

Regards

 

G. Singh

 

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Singh,

>

> I did not give his examlpe to discuss merits or otherwise of

Mercury

> or Ketu in his chart. My intention was to draw your atention

towards

> the so called "Bad" placement of Ketu, the Nakshtra Despositor of

> Mercury.

>

> if we discuss Me merits here then many features can come to mind

> instantaneously

>

> 1) Me's 8th house desposition is Praised by many scholars as giving

> great results in terms of Knowledge of Various Branches. it makes

> native a scholar.

> 2) Me is "Vargottama" in Fiery Sign Aries along with it's

despositor

> Mars bestows Great Logical Thinking & razor sharp intellect coupled

> with agression in Shastra Charcha (loosely termed as Arguments).

> 3) Me is with 5th & 9th lords & involved in Dharma Karmadhipati as

> well as Lakshmi Yoga.

> 4) Me in 8th with 8th lord, aspected by Ju & Nakshatra Despositor

> Ketu in 12th gave him great quest for learning many shastras which

> comes under "Para Vidya"

>

>

> There are many more things but let us stop here as this was not the

> original point of our discussions.

>

> regards,

>

> Utpal

>

> vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> >

> > hello Utpal,

> >

> > Very interesting discussion, I have seen PVR's chart quickly. I

> > will give you my comments on his mercury only. The complete chart

> > reading may take couple of hours, may be some other time.

> >

> > Mercury is a good planet for his chart as it rules his ascendant

> and

> > 10th house but is placed in 8th house, and surrounded by 6th lord

> > saturn and 8th lord mars, and 2nd and 9th lord venus. But luckily

> > mercury is closer to venus, which is good.

> >

> > Mercury is deposited in the nakshatra of ketu, and ketu is in the

> > 12th house. So during mercury mahadasha, mercury will energize

Ketu

> > in the 12th house. Ketu in 12th house represents spirituality,

> > moksha, and foreign travels. As mercury rules the lagna so the

> person

> > will be highly spiritual, mercury also rules 10th house so the

> career

> > will be related to sprituality. Ketu is in 12th house so the

person

> > travels to foreign countries. In my opinion he will be more

> > successful in a spriitual career than in any other profession.

> > He is going through Mercury / Rahu period until Jan 2007. He will

> go

> > through some problems when saturn will transit his natal ketu in

> leo,

> > and come opposite his natal rahu and natal moon in 6th house.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Shri Singh,

> > >

> > > Pl. Check PVR'S Chart. his Lagna Lord Mercury is in 8th &

placed

> > > in "Ketu's" (Nodes) Nakshatra & Ketu itself is placed in 12th.

he

> > is

> > > going thro Mercury's dasha which strated from 1994 & since then

> he

> > > seems to have made a great Progress in Vedic Jyotisha & in his

> > > profession as well. I think Marraige, Abroad journey, Children,

> > > Prosperity, Vedic Jyotisha Study, JHL S/W, Authourship with

IAVA,

> > SJC

> > > everything came for him coinciding with Mercury Dasha whose

lord

> is

> > a

> > > Node & that to badly palced in 12th.

> > >

> > > Pl. don't treat my mail as sarcasm nor i am trying to defeat

your

> > > observations on Nakshatras & it's predictive importance by just

> > > giving one example. One case is always far far away from

forming

> a

> > > definite opinion but I am against the following 2 things.

> > >

> > > 1) principle which you seems to be spreading that "Nakshatra

> > Lord's"

> > > position is the Supremely Importance in Predictive technique.

> > >

> > > 2) The attitude of yours that other members of the list don't

> > > consider Nakshatras in their Predictive methods.

> > >

> > > If i a wrong in judging you i apologise. I carry a very high

> > regards

> > > for late DrBVRaman & he always looked at Nakshatra Despositor

of

> > any

> > > planet before forming Opinion about the strength of the planet

&

> I

> > > have myslef found it quite a useful thing. in my personal

> opinion,

> > i

> > > wish to say that i never overlook Nakshatra Lord's Position in

a

> > > chart becuase i have experienced that it carries considerable

> > > influence on The planet in consideration & modifies it's

> predictive

> > > characteristics hence it is one of the aspect which is a

> supporting

> > > factor for Strength or Weakness of the Planet.

> > >

> > > I am sure many on the list surely observ this aspect & uses

them

> in

> > > their methodology and i hope that you don't carrey an opinion

> that

> > > members have a total disregard for Nakshatra Despositors.

> > >

> > > Happy Diwali

> > >

> > > Utpal Pathak

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > My experience is that planets in the nodes nakshatras do not

> give

> > > > good results if the node is located in the 6th, 8th or 12th

> > house.

> > > > But in your example the node is in the 11th house so it may

be

> > > > better.

> > > >

> > > > G. Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "prashant37"

> > > > <prashant37@g...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear G singh ji ,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Got it , u mean to say that nak is very imp ,and the planet

> > > > > importance depends on it...... right,

> > > > >

> > > > > Then what about the below example where the nakashatra

lord

> is

> > > > > rahu , and rahu rules the 11th house , so what does that

> > > > > concluded .?????

> > > > >

> > > > > dear sir , i am new so pls forgive me if my questionsaare

> silly

> > > > >

> > > > > thanking you

> > > > >

> > > > > will wait for ur reply

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > prashu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When you apply nakshatras you need to consider the

> > condition

> > > > and

> > > > > > location of the nakshatra lord. A planet may be located

in

> > 12th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > or 6th house or 8th house but if the nakshatra lord of

that

> > > > planet

> > > > > is

> > > > > > well placed and rules good house then the planet under

> > > > > consideration

> > > > > > will still give excellent results although it is located

in

> > 6th

> > > > or

> > > > > > 8th or 12th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the other hand a planet may be exalted in 11th or 9th

> > house

> > > > for

> > > > > > example but if the nakshatra lord of this planet rules

bad

> > > houses

> > > > > and

> > > > > > is placed in a bad house then the planet under

> consideration

> > > will

> > > > > > still give malefic results although this planet is

exalted

> in

> > > 9th

> > > > > or

> > > > > > 11th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Prashant

> > > > <prashant37@g...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear G singh ji,

> > > > > > > Good morning , can u pls help me understand the

logic ,

> > of

> > > > > > jupiter rulling

> > > > > > > 2nd and 11th , in the first house (aqu lagna which is

big

> b

> > > > > > lagna ) , and

> > > > > > > saturn in parivatna with mer which is in fifith house ,

> and

> > > mer

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the first

> > > > > > > house .

> > > > > > > My question is below u said if nashatra lord is place

> > > stronly

> > > > > then

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > effect is excillent , then what about when the the

ruler

> of

> > > > > 2nd ,

> > > > > > and 11th

> > > > > > > in lagna , and lagna lord in parivarthan .

> > > > > > > check this

> > > > > > > 06:30am,bombay,10th march

> > > > > > > can u pls put in some light regarding .

> > > > > > > thanking you

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Prashu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 10/30/05, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In Amitabh Bachhan's case jupiter rules 2nd and 11th

> > house

> > > and

> > > > > > > > exalted in 6th house. Then he has three planets in

> moons

> > > > > > nakshatra,

> > > > > > > > and moon rules 6th house. The planets give excellent

> > > results

> > > > > when

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > nakshatra lord is strong and posted in 2nd, 9th, 10th

> or

> > > 11th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > from ascendant. He got most of his success in saturn

> > > > mahadasha

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > saturn rules his ascendant and is placed in the

moon's

> > > > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > Because moon is in 9th house so he got name and fame.

> But

> > > > moon

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > rules 6th house so he had some health problems.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To come back to your question on 8th house, the 8th

> house

> > > > lord

> > > > > is

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > bad if it is posted in a good nakshatra. I am sending

> you

> > > the

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > data of a person who won a big lottery when he was

> going

> > > > > through

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > lord's bhukti.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > $27.7M won on 2-23-1993

> > > > > > > > lottery

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 12-5-1954 12:19pm EST

> > > > > > > > Brighton, MA

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla

Gang"

> > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have raised an interesting issue. Typically 8th

> > house

> > > > > > lordship

> > > > > > > > > is considered bad. But see from another

perspective,

> > 8th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > the only house from gains (society needs bulk

gains,

> > > sudden

> > > > > > gains,

> > > > > > > > > unearned gains and so on). Ravana Samhita tells,

that

> > if

> > > > > venus

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > jupiter (or for that matter extrapolate to include

> pure

> > > > somya

> > > > > > > > > planets)are in 8th house (if not affected by any

krur

> > > > > planets),

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > make a native immensely wealthy. Now the question

is

> > why?

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > planet aspects 2nd house; and with the result, will

> be

> > > able

> > > > > to

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > wealth.

> > > > > > > > > Planet in 2nd is less poised to give gains than

> planet

> > in

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > Why? Simply because, planet in 2nd house always

runs

> at

> > > > risk

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > afflication along the side of 2nd house itself. and

> > with

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > affliction to both, there is no saving factors.

> > Whereas,

> > > if

> > > > > > planet

> > > > > > > > > in 8th house is afflicted, not necessarily - th 2nd

> > house

> > > > > will

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > afflicted; so there will be some saving factors.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Key is not the afflictions or negating factors; but

> the

> > > > > factors,

> > > > > > > > > which can deliver and the balancing factor, if such

> > > > delivery

> > > > > > factor

> > > > > > > > > is obstructed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Coming to yr nakshatra issue, constellation

placement

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > root.

> > > > > > > > > Now, which constellation is more poised to deliver

is

> a

> > > > > > question,

> > > > > > > > > which has multiple factors (including the

positioning

> > > from

> > > > > > moon's

> > > > > > > > > constellation). Moon for kumbha lagna is not pure

> > subha,

> > > and

> > > > > > > > > probably planet in moon's constellation is not what

> we

> > > may

> > > > > call

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > as major giver. Probably, there are few other

> factors,

> > > > which

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > given wealth to Amitabh. (IMHO, it is planet in 8th

> > house

> > > > > which

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > resulted into gains; moon's constellation will be

> more

> > of

> > > > > > > > > obstructing force, in absolute sense - to be

modified

> > > with

> > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > factors).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The planets in 8th house can give excellent

results

> > if

> > > > > they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > located in favorable nakshatras. At the same time

> > > planets

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > house or 11th house can give terrible results if

> they

> > > are

> > > > > in

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > > nakshatras.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Like many other astrologers you are not

applying

> > > > > nakshatras

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > why you are not able to understand Amitabh

> > Bachhan's

> > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > He has many planets in 8th house but check what

> > > > > > constellations

> > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > 8th house planets are occupying. If I remember

> > > > correctly

> > > > > he

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > > planets in moon's nakshatra and moon is placed

in

> > the

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > luck and fortune. Also he has exalted jupiter

the

> > > ruler

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > 11th house stationed in moon's sign in 6th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter by transit in 3rd is not bad because it

> is

> > in

> > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > > > my case when jupiter transits 3rd house from

> natal

> > > moon

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > > excellent results because it transits its own

> > > nakshatra.

> > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned in one of my previous messages

> that

> > > > > > > > traditional

> > > > > > > > > > > astrology does not work. You will find many

> > > situations

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > not be able to prove scientifically why the

> planet

> > > gave

> > > > > bad

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > results using traditional astrology. But if one

> has

> > > > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > nakshatras then you can understand which planet

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > results and when it will happen.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "utpal

> > pathak"

> > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear HBK1HBK,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Our Sages, the pioneers of Vedic Astrology,

> have

> > > said

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > > is a Worst of Dusthana meaning it is the most

> > > Malefic

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > whole chart but Mr. Amitabh Bachhan & Mr. PVR

> > > > Narsimha

> > > > > Rao

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > planets in 8th house so the "Maha Chatur

> Purusha"

> > > > like

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > refrain from saying that even "Sages are

Wrong".

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > so have a "viveka" in passing your judgement.

I

> > am

> > > > just

> > > > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > the "standalone" phenominan where as

judgement

> > > shall

> > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > done

> > > > > > > > > > > > looking at the whole chart. i explained the

> basic

> > > > > logic of

> > > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > > Guru's

> > > > > > > > > > > > Transit or even Natal placement in 3rd is

> > > considered

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > Favourable.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > even i know couple of persons who has Guru in

> 3rd

> > &

> > > > > they

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > done badly in their life. it will not be out

of

> > > place

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > mention

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mere placement of Jupiter in 3rd is not

capable

> > of

> > > > > sucking

> > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > shubh effect but it also requires affliction

> from

> > > > > atleast

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > malefic.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > hope i have clarified myself once & for all

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology, "hbk1hbk_2100"

> > > > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong. Please see the chart of GW

> Bush.

> > > He

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house with moon.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

Utpal

> > > Pathak

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd house is considered as "Maran Karka"

> > Sthana

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > > meaning

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is most uncomfortable in that house

> and

> > > for

> > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > ju

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in 3rd in Shatru Rashi so?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very good question. Can any learned

> member

> > > > reply

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kannan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology, "Prafulla

> > > > > > Gang"

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered bad in 3rd

> house.

> > > For

> > > > > Leo

> > > > > > > > > natives,

> > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrology text will consider guru bad

in

> > tula

> > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when guru is transiting in tula, it

will

> > > aspect

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > > house,

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11th house. So why sould it be

considered

> > bad

> > > > > > transit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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