To all GURUS: Is Interpretation a personal choice?

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Respected Sirs,

 

 

I happened to read BV Raman's "HOW TO JUDGE HOROSCOPES'

recently (I know it is too late to read as the members of this groups

might have already read the book a number of times.)

 

In both the volumes, he had just used the Rasi and Navamsa chart to

interpret the charts. (Over 200 charts had been interpreted).

 

I noticed, being such a renowned astrologer how come he never ever took

into account the retrogression of planets while judging the horoscopes.

 

What I have come to understand from the various discussions that

appeared in this group is that retrogression of planets has a great

impact on ones life. (I remember the series of threads that used to

appear in this group regarding retrograde planets and their affects on

a person's life.)

 

 

But why then Shri BV Raman never mentioned about it in his above book??

 

Is it because that retrogression of planets is not at all affecting

a person's life? As a scholar he might have known about retrogression

and its impacts. Isnt it?

 

Or is it that BV Raman could interpret charts successfully without

necassarily checking the retrogression of planets?

 

I am forced to think as to what all factors should

one "REALLY/CLASSICALLY?" take into account while interpreting a

horoscope.

 

Or is it that one can interpret a chart with whatever tools one

knows,irrepective of what is said in classical texts?

(Like very knowledgeable ones -who had gone in-depth, can use

sophisticated tools like D-charts, vargas..etc, less knowledgable ones

ordianry tools, just a rasi chart etc :-)No offense meant to BV Raman

or anybody, pls).

 

Or is it that whatever tool you use the prediction should be correct

even if not mentioned in texts? (But now, I think importance is just on

how deep and vast you knwo about the classical texts a

 

Really confused...

 

I would like to know the respected group members' opinion on this.

 

Regards,

Jyothi

[Guest guest]

an astrologer needs to have Vak Siddhhi.

Apart from whatever tools an astrologer uses, God's anugraha, vaksiddhhi and

purity of heart are very essential.

I met one Surya Narayan Rao a pious Telugu Brahmin whoo was shishya of a Nadi

Astrologer (Surya Nadi) also owned by a pious Brahmin from Andhra .

He used to tell me that he was one of the most thorough Ganita shastri and he

could make most detailes chart but alas, he lamented that God had not given him

Vaksiddhhi so he could never predict even simple things from birth chart.

 

Whereas people with vaksiddhhi can just have a glance at the chart and predict remarkable things .

I am attaching the URL of Bhadli Vakya of a Gujarati poet who wrote poetry which

was used by illiterate farmers to their utmost benefit. He gave some

scientifically proven principles of weather behaviour by planetary positions

and Tithi, Nakshtra and Vara etc.

 

http://www.millenniumassessment.org/documents/bridging/papers/kanani.pr.pdf

 

Please read that.

This was in 1200 AD.

 

This is why I said to each his own.

Tatvam-Asijyothi_lakshmi_b <jyothi_lakshmi_b (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Sirs, I happened to read BV Raman's "HOW TO JUDGE

HOROSCOPES' recently (I know it is too late to read as the members of this

groups might have already read the book a number of times.) In both the

volumes, he had just used the Rasi and Navamsa chart to interpret the charts.

(Over 200 charts had been interpreted).I noticed, being such a renowned

astrologer how come he never ever took into account the retrogression of

planets while judging the horoscopes. What I have come to understand from the

various discussions that appeared in this group is that retrogression of

planets has a great impact on ones life. (I remember the series of threads that

used to appear in this group regarding retrograde planets and their affects on

a person's life.)But why then Shri BV Raman never mentioned about it in his

above book?? Is it because that retrogression of planets is not at all

affecting a person's life? As a scholar he might have known about retrogression

and its impacts. Isnt it? Or is it that BV Raman could interpret charts

successfully without necassarily checking the retrogression of planets? I am

forced to think as to what all factors should one "REALLY/CLASSICALLY?" take

into account while interpreting a horoscope. Or is it that one can interpret a

chart with whatever tools one knows,irrepective of what is said in classical

texts?(Like very knowledgeable ones -who had gone in-depth, can use

sophisticated tools like D-charts, vargas..etc, less knowledgable ones ordianry

tools, just a rasi chart etc :-)No offense meant to BV Raman or anybody, pls).

Or is it that whatever tool

you use the prediction should be correct even if not mentioned in texts? (But

now, I think importance is just on how deep and vast you knwo about the

classical texts aReally confused...I would like to know the respected group

members' opinion on this.Regards,Jyothi

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Jyothi ji,

 

If my two cents be tolerated and of use to you, I think that

astrology is primarily a technical pursuit. There are techniques and

the techniques are transferable and teachable and usable by others.

If this were not the case, schools and lists of jyotish would not

have much of a raison d'etre. Nor would articles and books of this or

that astrological technique to be used by all and sundry. Mind you, I

am not denying that there is need for discretion, intelligent

application and so on which will separate the ordinary technicians

(quite useful, by the way!) from the experts and teachers -- perhaps!

 

 

Medicine starts out very much the same. Initiatlly it is about

techniques and material that needs to be memorized and all that still

provides a good level of success and one feels accomplished. However,

some of the doctors then through their absorption into their work and

tapasya and dedication in a sense, reach a different level, a level

where the knowledge does not go away but is utilized in a more

seamless manner and synthetically and with that special something

that gets added to the mix. Patients still die in such hands, and

wrong diagnoses do occur but less than a technically inclined intern

would commit, maybe the same tapaswi doctor would have when he was an

intern!

 

 

Unlike medicine, despite claims and beliefs -- astrology has less of

a technical basis, so most jyotishis are plunged into that realm

where technique must meet with that something else. It could be

intuition, it could be tapasya, it could be the engagement of the

mind at different levels simultaneously. It is almost like a whole

brain engagement one may put. The process is difficult to define and

describe through words or other left-brained media. Perhaps someone

more capable can do a better job than I can in this matter.

 

 

Going with my premise, when a reading is reverse engineered as

happens when we take a complex reading and try to describe and

separate the elements that led us to that synthesized conclusion, it

is is hard not to miss some of the nuances and even large chunks --

particularly if they were not noted down right away in details or

regurgitated right away. I am talking about detailed readings and not

snippets we see on lists (no offence intended towards anyone!). Some

individuals manage to do this better, the post hoc description of how

they arrived at a certain astroconclusion. I have personally seen

only two people who could do it really superbly -- PVR Narasimha Rao

and Marc Boney. I would however venture to comment that even they

must be missing a few things astrological that they considered,

consciously or sub-consciously during the original reading!

 

 

I think one of the members mentioned 'vak siddhi'. Mr. KN Rao has at

times written about jyotishmati nadi which gets activated in

experienced jyotishis. These types of individuals have paid their

dues and what gives most of us headaches in terms of balancing

astrological equations and umpteen factors are just sand under their

feet. And if the sand shifts a bit, such is the power and spring in

their step that they can render that flying jump anyway and hit the

predictive bull's eye anyway -- which is what accomplishment in

astrology is all about!

 

 

RR

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b"

<jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

>

> Respected Sirs,

>

>

> I happened to read BV Raman's "HOW TO JUDGE HOROSCOPES'

> recently (I know it is too late to read as the members of this

groups

> might have already read the book a number of times.)

>

> In both the volumes, he had just used the Rasi and Navamsa chart

to

> interpret the charts. (Over 200 charts had been interpreted).

>

> I noticed, being such a renowned astrologer how come he never ever

took

> into account the retrogression of planets while judging the

horoscopes.

>

> What I have come to understand from the various discussions that

> appeared in this group is that retrogression of planets has a great

> impact on ones life. (I remember the series of threads that used to

> appear in this group regarding retrograde planets and their affects

on

> a person's life.)

>

>

> But why then Shri BV Raman never mentioned about it in his above

book??

>

> Is it because that retrogression of planets is not at all

affecting

> a person's life? As a scholar he might have known about

retrogression

> and its impacts. Isnt it?

>

> Or is it that BV Raman could interpret charts successfully

without

> necassarily checking the retrogression of planets?

>

> I am forced to think as to what all factors should

> one "REALLY/CLASSICALLY?" take into account while interpreting a

> horoscope.

>

> Or is it that one can interpret a chart with whatever tools one

> knows,irrepective of what is said in classical texts?

> (Like very knowledgeable ones -who had gone in-depth, can use

> sophisticated tools like D-charts, vargas..etc, less knowledgable

ones

> ordianry tools, just a rasi chart etc :-)No offense meant to BV

Raman

> or anybody, pls).

>

> Or is it that whatever tool you use the prediction should be

correct

> even if not mentioned in texts? (But now, I think importance is

just on

> how deep and vast you knwo about the classical texts a

>

> Really confused...

>

> I would like to know the respected group members' opinion on this.

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

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Namaste,

 

>astrology is primarily a technical pursuit. There

are techniques and

>the techniques are transferable and teachable and

usable by others.

 

I am unable to get at you . Please

 

>Mind you, I am not denying that there is need for

discretion, intelligent application and so on which

will separate the ordinary technicians

 

Are you talking about DR.B.V.Raman as an ordinary

technician !

 

 

 

--- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

 

> Jyothi ji,

>

> If my two cents be tolerated and of use to you, I

> think that

> astrology is primarily a technical pursuit. There

> are techniques and

> the techniques are transferable and teachable and

> usable by others.

> If this were not the case, schools and lists of

> jyotish would not

> have much of a raison d'etre. Nor would articles and

> books of this or

> that astrological technique to be used by all and

> sundry. Mind you, I

> am not denying that there is need for discretion,

> intelligent

> application and so on which will separate the

> ordinary technicians

> (quite useful, by the way!) from the experts and

> teachers -- perhaps!

>

>

> Medicine starts out very much the same. Initiatlly

> it is about

> techniques and material that needs to be memorized

> and all that still

> provides a good level of success and one feels

> accomplished. However,

> some of the doctors then through their absorption

> into their work and

> tapasya and dedication in a sense, reach a different

> level, a level

> where the knowledge does not go away but is utilized

> in a more

> seamless manner and synthetically and with that

> special something

> that gets added to the mix. Patients still die in

> such hands, and

> wrong diagnoses do occur but less than a technically

> inclined intern

> would commit, maybe the same tapaswi doctor would

> have when he was an

> intern!

>

>

> Unlike medicine, despite claims and beliefs --

> astrology has less of

> a technical basis, so most jyotishis are plunged

> into that realm

> where technique must meet with that something else.

> It could be

> intuition, it could be tapasya, it could be the

> engagement of the

> mind at different levels simultaneously. It is

> almost like a whole

> brain engagement one may put. The process is

> difficult to define and

> describe through words or other left-brained media.

> Perhaps someone

> more capable can do a better job than I can in this

> matter.

>

>

> Going with my premise, when a reading is reverse

> engineered as

> happens when we take a complex reading and try to

> describe and

> separate the elements that led us to that

> synthesized conclusion, it

> is is hard not to miss some of the nuances and even

> large chunks --

> particularly if they were not noted down right away

> in details or

> regurgitated right away. I am talking about detailed

> readings and not

> snippets we see on lists (no offence intended

> towards anyone!). Some

> individuals manage to do this better, the post hoc

> description of how

> they arrived at a certain astroconclusion. I have

> personally seen

> only two people who could do it really superbly --

> PVR Narasimha Rao

> and Marc Boney. I would however venture to comment

> that even they

> must be missing a few things astrological that they

> considered,

> consciously or sub-consciously during the original

> reading!

>

>

> I think one of the members mentioned 'vak siddhi'.

> Mr. KN Rao has at

> times written about jyotishmati nadi which gets

> activated in

> experienced jyotishis. These types of individuals

> have paid their

> dues and what gives most of us headaches in terms of

> balancing

> astrological equations and umpteen factors are just

> sand under their

> feet. And if the sand shifts a bit, such is the

> power and spring in

> their step that they can render that flying jump

> anyway and hit the

> predictive bull's eye anyway -- which is what

> accomplishment in

> astrology is all about!

>

>

> RR

>

>

>

> vedic astrology,

> "jyothi_lakshmi_b"

> <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sirs,

> >

> >

> > I happened to read BV Raman's "HOW TO

> JUDGE HOROSCOPES'

> > recently (I know it is too late to read as the

> members of this

> groups

> > might have already read the book a number of

> times.)

> >

> > In both the volumes, he had just used the Rasi

> and Navamsa chart

> to

> > interpret the charts. (Over 200 charts had been

> interpreted).

> >

> > I noticed, being such a renowned astrologer how

> come he never ever

> took

> > into account the retrogression of planets while

> judging the

> horoscopes.

> >

> > What I have come to understand from the various

> discussions that

> > appeared in this group is that retrogression of

> planets has a great

> > impact on ones life. (I remember the series of

> threads that used to

> > appear in this group regarding retrograde planets

> and their affects

> on

> > a person's life.)

> >

> >

> > But why then Shri BV Raman never mentioned about

> it in his above

> book??

> >

> > Is it because that retrogression of planets is

> not at all

> affecting

> > a person's life? As a scholar he might have known

> about

> retrogression

> > and its impacts. Isnt it?

> >

> > Or is it that BV Raman could interpret charts

> successfully

> without

> > necassarily checking the retrogression of planets?

>

> >

> > I am forced to think as to what all factors

> should

> > one "REALLY/CLASSICALLY?" take into account while

> interpreting a

> > horoscope.

> >

> > Or is it that one can interpret a chart with

> whatever tools one

> > knows,irrepective of what is said in classical

> texts?

> > (Like very knowledgeable ones -who had gone

> in-depth, can use

> > sophisticated tools like D-charts, vargas..etc,

> less knowledgable

> ones

> > ordianry tools, just a rasi chart etc :-)No

> offense meant to BV

> Raman

> > or anybody, pls).

> >

> > Or is it that whatever tool you use the prediction

> should be

> correct

> > even if not mentioned in texts? (But now, I think

> importance is

> just on

> > how deep and vast you knwo about the classical

> texts a

> >

>

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You cut the quote a bit too short! Prof. Raman would be an expert in

my eyes.

 

vedic astrology, KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM

<munisevitham> wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> >astrology is primarily a technical pursuit. There

> are techniques and

> >the techniques are transferable and teachable and

> usable by others.

>

> I am unable to get at you . Please

>

> >Mind you, I am not denying that there is need for

> discretion, intelligent application and so on which

> will separate the ordinary technicians

>

> Are you talking about DR.B.V.Raman as an ordinary

> technician !

>

>

>

> --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

>

> > Jyothi ji,

> >

> > If my two cents be tolerated and of use to you, I

> > think that

> > astrology is primarily a technical pursuit. There

> > are techniques and

> > the techniques are transferable and teachable and

> > usable by others.

> > If this were not the case, schools and lists of

> > jyotish would not

> > have much of a raison d'etre. Nor would articles and

> > books of this or

> > that astrological technique to be used by all and

> > sundry. Mind you, I

> > am not denying that there is need for discretion,

> > intelligent

> > application and so on which will separate the

> > ordinary technicians

> > (quite useful, by the way!) from the experts and

> > teachers -- perhaps!

> >

> >

> > Medicine starts out very much the same. Initiatlly

> > it is about

> > techniques and material that needs to be memorized

> > and all that still

> > provides a good level of success and one feels

> > accomplished. However,

> > some of the doctors then through their absorption

> > into their work and

> > tapasya and dedication in a sense, reach a different

> > level, a level

> > where the knowledge does not go away but is utilized

> > in a more

> > seamless manner and synthetically and with that

> > special something

> > that gets added to the mix. Patients still die in

> > such hands, and

> > wrong diagnoses do occur but less than a technically

> > inclined intern

> > would commit, maybe the same tapaswi doctor would

> > have when he was an

> > intern!

> >

> >

> > Unlike medicine, despite claims and beliefs --

> > astrology has less of

> > a technical basis, so most jyotishis are plunged

> > into that realm

> > where technique must meet with that something else.

> > It could be

> > intuition, it could be tapasya, it could be the

> > engagement of the

> > mind at different levels simultaneously. It is

> > almost like a whole

> > brain engagement one may put. The process is

> > difficult to define and

> > describe through words or other left-brained media.

> > Perhaps someone

> > more capable can do a better job than I can in this

> > matter.

> >

> >

> > Going with my premise, when a reading is reverse

> > engineered as

> > happens when we take a complex reading and try to

> > describe and

> > separate the elements that led us to that

> > synthesized conclusion, it

> > is is hard not to miss some of the nuances and even

> > large chunks --

> > particularly if they were not noted down right away

> > in details or

> > regurgitated right away. I am talking about detailed

> > readings and not

> > snippets we see on lists (no offence intended

> > towards anyone!). Some

> > individuals manage to do this better, the post hoc

> > description of how

> > they arrived at a certain astroconclusion. I have

> > personally seen

> > only two people who could do it really superbly --

> > PVR Narasimha Rao

> > and Marc Boney. I would however venture to comment

> > that even they

> > must be missing a few things astrological that they

> > considered,

> > consciously or sub-consciously during the original

> > reading!

> >

> >

> > I think one of the members mentioned 'vak siddhi'.

> > Mr. KN Rao has at

> > times written about jyotishmati nadi which gets

> > activated in

> > experienced jyotishis. These types of individuals

> > have paid their

> > dues and what gives most of us headaches in terms of

> > balancing

> > astrological equations and umpteen factors are just

> > sand under their

> > feet. And if the sand shifts a bit, such is the

> > power and spring in

> > their step that they can render that flying jump

> > anyway and hit the

> > predictive bull's eye anyway -- which is what

> > accomplishment in

> > astrology is all about!

> >

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> > "jyothi_lakshmi_b"

> > <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Sirs,

> > >

> > >

> > > I happened to read BV Raman's "HOW TO

> > JUDGE HOROSCOPES'

> > > recently (I know it is too late to read as the

> > members of this

> > groups

> > > might have already read the book a number of

> > times.)

> > >

> > > In both the volumes, he had just used the Rasi

> > and Navamsa chart

> > to

> > > interpret the charts. (Over 200 charts had been

> > interpreted).

> > >

> > > I noticed, being such a renowned astrologer how

> > come he never ever

> > took

> > > into account the retrogression of planets while

> > judging the

> > horoscopes.

> > >

> > > What I have come to understand from the various

> > discussions that

> > > appeared in this group is that retrogression of

> > planets has a great

> > > impact on ones life. (I remember the series of

> > threads that used to

> > > appear in this group regarding retrograde planets

> > and their affects

> > on

> > > a person's life.)

> > >

> > >

> > > But why then Shri BV Raman never mentioned about

> > it in his above

> > book??

> > >

> > > Is it because that retrogression of planets is

> > not at all

> > affecting

> > > a person's life? As a scholar he might have known

> > about

> > retrogression

> > > and its impacts. Isnt it?

> > >

> > > Or is it that BV Raman could interpret charts

> > successfully

> > without

> > > necassarily checking the retrogression of planets?

> >

> > >

> > > I am forced to think as to what all factors

> > should

> > > one "REALLY/CLASSICALLY?" take into account while

> > interpreting a

> > > horoscope.

> > >

> > > Or is it that one can interpret a chart with

> > whatever tools one

> > > knows,irrepective of what is said in classical

> > texts?

> > > (Like very knowledgeable ones -who had gone

> > in-depth, can use

> > > sophisticated tools like D-charts, vargas..etc,

> > less knowledgable

> > ones

> > > ordianry tools, just a rasi chart etc :-)No

> > offense meant to BV

> > Raman

> > > or anybody, pls).

> > >

> > > Or is it that whatever tool you use the prediction

> > should be

> > correct

> > > even if not mentioned in texts? (But now, I think

> > importance is

> > just on

> > > how deep and vast you knwo about the classical

> > texts a

> > >

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

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Respected Sir,

 

Thanks for the reply and the pdf. Can you please elaborate on vak

siddhi? Power that makes true what one predicts or the ability to

foresee what is going to happen and then predicting it?

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Noname Noname

<nameisego> wrote:

>

> Hello J. Lakshmi,

> an astrologer needs to have Vak Siddhhi.

> Apart from whatever tools an astrologer uses, God's anugraha,

vaksiddhhi and purity of heart are very essential.

> I met one Surya Narayan Rao a pious Telugu Brahmin whoo was shishya

of a Nadi Astrologer (Surya Nadi) also owned by a pious Brahmin from

Andhra .

> He used to tell me that he was one of the most thorough Ganita

shastri and he could make most detailes chart but alas, he lamented

that God had not given him Vaksiddhhi so he could never predict even

simple things from birth chart.

>

> Whereas people with vaksiddhhi can just have a glance at the chart

and predict remarkable things .

> I am attaching the URL of Bhadli Vakya of a Gujarati poet who wrote

poetry which was used by illiterate farmers to their utmost benefit.

He gave some scientifically proven principles of weather behaviour by

planetary positions and Tithi, Nakshtra and Vara etc.

>

>

http://www.millenniumassessment.org/documents/bridging/papers/kanani.p

r.pdf

>

> Please read that.

> This was in 1200 AD.

>

> This is why I said to each his own.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> jyothi_lakshmi_b <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> Respected Sirs,

>

>

> I happened to read BV Raman's "HOW TO JUDGE HOROSCOPES'

> recently (I know it is too late to read as the members of this

groups

> might have already read the book a number of times.)

>

> In both the volumes, he had just used the Rasi and Navamsa chart

to

> interpret the charts. (Over 200 charts had been interpreted).

>

> I noticed, being such a renowned astrologer how come he never ever

took

> into account the retrogression of planets while judging the

horoscopes.

>

> What I have come to understand from the various discussions that

> appeared in this group is that retrogression of planets has a great

> impact on ones life. (I remember the series of threads that used to

> appear in this group regarding retrograde planets and their affects

on

> a person's life.)

>

>

> But why then Shri BV Raman never mentioned about it in his above

book??

>

> Is it because that retrogression of planets is not at all

affecting

> a person's life? As a scholar he might have known about

retrogression

> and its impacts. Isnt it?

>

> Or is it that BV Raman could interpret charts successfully

without

> necassarily checking the retrogression of planets?

>

> I am forced to think as to what all factors should

> one "REALLY/CLASSICALLY?" take into account while interpreting a

> horoscope.

>

> Or is it that one can interpret a chart with whatever tools one

> knows,irrepective of what is said in classical texts?

> (Like very knowledgeable ones -who had gone in-depth, can use

> sophisticated tools like D-charts, vargas..etc, less knowledgable

ones

> ordianry tools, just a rasi chart etc :-)No offense meant to BV

Raman

> or anybody, pls).

>

> Or is it that whatever tool you use the prediction should be

correct

> even if not mentioned in texts? (But now, I think importance is

just on

> how deep and vast you knwo about the classical texts a

>

> Really confused...

>

> I would like to know the respected group members' opinion on this.

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

>

>

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The results of our actions are in the hands of the Isvara. The

potential lies in every "individual" to realize his/her true identity

as Isvara. The more a person "listens", the more the evident becomes

clearer.

Techniques can only help, if you can "listen". Awareness has no

substitute. Techniques can be substituted as many are available. Sri B.

V. Raman may have used some, some others may have used a few more or

less.

When one is in tune with life, the thoughts do not get interjected with

mental impurities, and correlation of causes and effects become clearer.

I hope this helped

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Bharat

On 11/4/05, jyothi_lakshmi_b <

jyothi_lakshmi_b (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Sir,

Thanks for the reply and the pdf. Can you please elaborate on vak

siddhi? Power that makes true what one predicts or the ability to

foresee what is going to happen and then predicting it?

Regards,

Jyothi

vedic astrology, Noname Noname

<nameisego> wrote:

>

> Hello J. Lakshmi,

> an astrologer needs to have Vak Siddhhi.

> Apart from whatever tools an astrologer uses, God's anugraha,

vaksiddhhi and purity of heart are very essential.

> I met one Surya Narayan Rao a pious Telugu Brahmin whoo was shishya

of a Nadi Astrologer (Surya Nadi) also owned by a pious Brahmin from

Andhra .

> He used to tell me that he was one of the most thorough Ganita

shastri and he could make most detailes chart but alas, he lamented

that God had not given him Vaksiddhhi so he could never predict even

simple things from birth chart.

>

> Whereas people with vaksiddhhi can just have a glance at the chart

and predict remarkable things .

> I am attaching the URL of Bhadli Vakya of a Gujarati poet who wrote

poetry which was used by illiterate farmers to their utmost benefit.

He gave some scientifically proven principles of weather behaviour by

planetary positions and Tithi, Nakshtra and Vara etc.

>

>

http://www.millenniumassessment.org/documents/bridging/papers/kanani.p

r.pdf

>

> Please read that.

> This was in 1200 AD.

>

> This is why I said to each his own.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> jyothi_lakshmi_b <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:

> Respected Sirs,

>

>

> I happened to read BV Raman's "HOW TO JUDGE HOROSCOPES'

> recently (I know it is too late to read as the members of this

groups

> might have already read the book a number of times.)

>

> In both the volumes, he had just used the Rasi and Navamsa chart

to

> interpret the charts. (Over 200 charts had been interpreted).

>

> I noticed, being such a renowned astrologer how come he never ever

took

> into account the retrogression of planets while judging the

horoscopes.

>

> What I have come to understand from the various discussions that

> appeared in this group is that retrogression of planets has a great

> impact on ones life. (I remember the series of threads that used to

> appear in this group regarding retrograde planets and their affects

on

> a person's life.)

>

>

> But why then Shri BV Raman never mentioned about it in his above

book??

>

> Is it because that retrogression of planets is not at all

affecting

> a person's life? As a scholar he might have known about

retrogression

> and its impacts. Isnt it?

>

> Or is it that BV Raman could interpret charts successfully

without

> necassarily checking the retrogression of planets?

>

> I am forced to think as to what all factors should

> one "REALLY/CLASSICALLY?" take into account while interpreting a

> horoscope.

>

> Or is it that one can interpret a chart with whatever tools one

> knows,irrepective of what is said in classical texts?

> (Like very knowledgeable ones -who had gone in-depth, can use

> sophisticated tools like D-charts, vargas..etc, less knowledgable

ones

> ordianry tools, just a rasi chart etc :-)No offense meant to BV

Raman

> or anybody, pls).

>

> Or is it that whatever tool you use the prediction should be

correct

> even if not mentioned in texts? (But now, I think importance is

just on

> how deep and vast you knwo about the classical texts a

>

> Really confused...

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> I would like to know the respected group members' opinion on this.

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

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