The tone and tenor of Astro discussions

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Dear sirs,

I am a new entrant to this group.I joined it

to learn the various points of view in reading the

charts.I have been reading through all the discussions

but I fear that sometimes the discussions deviate to

expressions of personal ego.All those in pursuit of

knowledge may well recollect the sanskrit saying

"Vidya dadati vinayam,vinayat yati patrata"

 

It means that the true yard stick of knowledge is

vidya and the yardstick of capability is vinayam.

As a retired educationist I am constrained to say

this.

 

Regarding the astrology:-Our sages were seers.Based on

the conscious levels they attained they had quoted

certain principles in reading the horoscopes.To

understand fully the significance of what they said we

have to enrich our conscious levels by knowledge or by

yoga.

In twentieth century itself we have witnessed such

seer in mathematics-Sri Ramanujam.Many of his theorems

in number theory are still not proved.

 

We all resemble people who go the river Ganges to

fetch water with the vessels we are carrying.Some are

going with a tumbler, some with a small pot,some with

a bigger one and in general with vessels of various

sizes. Each one can bring only that much water which

his or her CONTAINER CAN HOLD.Nobody can bring the

whole Ganges unless he is another Bhageerath.

 

So it is always better to listen to all others' views

and finally come to your own way by analysis and

experimentation.Nobody is greater or superior to the

other.Indian tradition is to respect age and

wisdom(measured by the vinayam or humility)

 

I wish all those who have attained some distinction in

astrology would strive to make astrology more

scientific and remove the dust that is gathered around

it

At the end let me Quote

"Aswaplutam,Vasavagarjitam,koopodakam,streenamcha

chittam,purushasyabhagyam Devo na janati kuto

manushyaha"

Let divine Light shine on all of us

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

respected narayanji,

 

great mail which shows the real maturity.

 

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[vedic astrology]On Behalf Of kondur narayan

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:57 PM

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[vedic astrology] The tone and tenor of Astro discussions

 

 

Dear sirs,

I am a new entrant to this group.I joined it

to learn the various points of view in reading the

charts.I have been reading through all the discussions

but I fear that sometimes the discussions deviate to

expressions of personal ego.All those in pursuit of

knowledge may well recollect the sanskrit saying

"Vidya dadati vinayam,vinayat yati patrata"

 

It means that the true yard stick of knowledge is

vidya and the yardstick of capability is vinayam.

As a retired educationist I am constrained to say

this.

 

Regarding the astrology:-Our sages were seers.Based on

the conscious levels they attained they had quoted

certain principles in reading the horoscopes.To

understand fully the significance of what they said we

have to enrich our conscious levels by knowledge or by

yoga.

In twentieth century itself we have witnessed such

seer in mathematics-Sri Ramanujam.Many of his theorems

in number theory are still not proved.

 

We all resemble people who go the river Ganges to

fetch water with the vessels we are carrying.Some are

going with a tumbler, some with a small pot,some with

a bigger one and in general with vessels of various

sizes. Each one can bring only that much water which

his or her CONTAINER CAN HOLD.Nobody can bring the

whole Ganges unless he is another Bhageerath.

 

So it is always better to listen to all others' views

and finally come to your own way by analysis and

experimentation.Nobody is greater or superior to the

other.Indian tradition is to respect age and

wisdom(measured by the vinayam or humility)

 

I wish all those who have attained some distinction in

astrology would strive to make astrology more

scientific and remove the dust that is gathered around

it

At the end let me Quote

"Aswaplutam,Vasavagarjitam,koopodakam,streenamcha

chittam,purushasyabhagyam Devo na janati kuto

manushyaha"

Let divine Light shine on all of us

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear narayan ji,

> Our sages were seers.Based on

> the conscious levels they attained they had quoted

> certain principles in reading the horoscopes.To

> understand fully the significance of what they said we

> have to enrich our conscious levels by knowledge or by

> yoga.

I agree with you completly.

 

> We all resemble people who go the river Ganges to

> fetch water with the vessels we are carrying.Some are

> going with a tumbler, some with a small pot,some with

> a bigger one and in general with vessels of various

> sizes. Each one can bring only that much water which

> his or her CONTAINER CAN HOLD.Nobody can bring the

> whole Ganges unless he is another Bhageerath.

Yes, I would say that, we need several Bhageeraths like Chandra Hari,

PVR etc who could shed light on several aspects of astrology - either

by developing software or by solving several fundamental logical

issues. We need many others as well who could organize and rearrange

the available knowledge in a better way, many others (scientists and

the like) who could study things circardian rhythm etc, and many other

well versed astrologers who could learn/teach/implement it in a

systematic way.

> So it is always better to listen to all others' views

> and finally come to your own way by analysis and

> experimentation.Nobody is greater or superior to the

> other.Indian tradition is to respect age and

> wisdom(measured by the vinayam or humility)

Right! you said it well. But instead of age we should respect wisdom

more I feel.

Yukthiyukthamupadeyam vachanam balakadapi

Anya trinamiva tyajyam vridhadapi sukadapi (Yoga vasishtam)

Meaning, If a logically correct thing said by even a child, we should

accept it. But if it is not logically correct, even if it is said by

an Old man or by a Parent (May be one in the hands of Saraswathy/Or

may be it is a reference to the scholar Suka muni) we should discard

it.

> I wish all those who have attained some distinction in

> astrology would strive to make astrology more

> scientific and remove the dust that is gathered around

> it

Yes, I agree with you.

> At the end let me Quote

> "Aswaplutam,Vasavagarjitam,koopodakam,streenamcha

> chittam,purushasyabhagyam Devo na janati kuto

> manushyaha"

It is curious! I heard another version of the same sloka.

"Aswaprevenjabudha garjanascha, Sthreenamcha chitham purushasya

bhagyam

Avarshananchapyathi varshanam cha, Devo na janathi kutho manushya"

(Neethi saram)

From where you quoted it? Why these two versions differ? Can you

please enlighten me?

With warm regards,

Love,

Sreenadh

 

Message: 17

Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:56:53 +0530

tvrao <tvrao_agd

RE: The tone and tenor of Astro discussions

 

respected narayanji,

 

great mail which shows the real maturity.

 

tvr

9422203510

 

Message: 9

Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:26:46 -0800 (PST)

kondur narayan <kanrao2000

The tone and tenor of Astro discussions

 

Dear sirs,

I am a new entrant to this group.I joined it

to learn the various points of view in reading the

charts.I have been reading through all the discussions

but I fear that sometimes the discussions deviate to

expressions of personal ego.All those in pursuit of

knowledge may well recollect the sanskrit saying

"Vidya dadati vinayam,vinayat yati patrata"

 

It means that the true yard stick of knowledge is

vidya and the yardstick of capability is vinayam.

As a retired educationist I am constrained to say

this.

 

Regarding the astrology:-Our sages were seers.Based on

the conscious levels they attained they had quoted

certain principles in reading the horoscopes.To

understand fully the significance of what they said we

have to enrich our conscious levels by knowledge or by

yoga.

In twentieth century itself we have witnessed such

seer in mathematics-Sri Ramanujam.Many of his theorems

in number theory are still not proved.

 

We all resemble people who go the river Ganges to

fetch water with the vessels we are carrying.Some are

going with a tumbler, some with a small pot,some with

a bigger one and in general with vessels of various

sizes. Each one can bring only that much water which

his or her CONTAINER CAN HOLD.Nobody can bring the

whole Ganges unless he is another Bhageerath.

 

So it is always better to listen to all others' views

and finally come to your own way by analysis and

experimentation.Nobody is greater or superior to the

other.Indian tradition is to respect age and

wisdom(measured by the vinayam or humility)

 

I wish all those who have attained some distinction in

astrology would strive to make astrology more

scientific and remove the dust that is gathered around

it

At the end let me Quote

"Aswaplutam,Vasavagarjitam,koopodakam,streenamcha

chittam,purushasyabhagyam Devo na janati kuto

manushyaha"

Let divine Light shine on all of us

[Guest guest]

Dear Srinadhji,

I am sorry I dono know from where that sloka was

picked up by me.But I remember that since last 50

yrs.May be I had read in some of the books of sanskrit

in my inter or degree level.Some how it has stuck to

my mind due to its significance.

Thanks for appreciating my views

<kanrao>

 

--- Sreenadh <sreelid wrote:

 

> Dear narayan ji,

> > Our sages were seers.Based on

> > the conscious levels they attained they had quoted

> > certain principles in reading the horoscopes.To

> > understand fully the significance of what they

> said we

> > have to enrich our conscious levels by knowledge

> or by

> > yoga.

> I agree with you completly.

>

> > We all resemble people who go the river Ganges to

> > fetch water with the vessels we are carrying.Some

> are

> > going with a tumbler, some with a small pot,some

> with

> > a bigger one and in general with vessels of

> various

> > sizes. Each one can bring only that much water

> which

> > his or her CONTAINER CAN HOLD.Nobody can bring the

> > whole Ganges unless he is another Bhageerath.

> Yes, I would say that, we need several Bhageeraths

> like Chandra Hari,

> PVR etc who could shed light on several aspects of

> astrology - either

> by developing software or by solving several

> fundamental logical

> issues. We need many others as well who could

> organize and rearrange

> the available knowledge in a better way, many others

> (scientists and

> the like) who could study things circardian rhythm

> etc, and many other

> well versed astrologers who could

> learn/teach/implement it in a

> systematic way.

> > So it is always better to listen to all others'

> views

> > and finally come to your own way by analysis and

> > experimentation.Nobody is greater or superior to

> the

> > other.Indian tradition is to respect age and

> > wisdom(measured by the vinayam or humility)

> Right! you said it well. But instead of age we

> should respect wisdom

> more I feel.

> Yukthiyukthamupadeyam vachanam balakadapi

> Anya trinamiva tyajyam vridhadapi sukadapi (Yoga

> vasishtam)

> Meaning, If a logically correct thing said by even

> a child, we should

> accept it. But if it is not logically correct, even

> if it is said by

> an Old man or by a Parent (May be one in the hands

> of Saraswathy/Or

> may be it is a reference to the scholar Suka muni)

> we should discard

> it.

> > I wish all those who have attained some

> distinction in

> > astrology would strive to make astrology more

> > scientific and remove the dust that is gathered

> around

> > it

> Yes, I agree with you.

> > At the end let me Quote

> > "Aswaplutam,Vasavagarjitam,koopodakam,streenamcha

> > chittam,purushasyabhagyam Devo na janati kuto

> > manushyaha"

> It is curious! I heard another version of the same

> sloka.

> "Aswaprevenjabudha garjanascha, Sthreenamcha

> chitham purushasya

> bhagyam

> Avarshananchapyathi varshanam cha, Devo na janathi

> kutho manushya"

> (Neethi saram)

> From where you quoted it? Why these two versions

> differ? Can you

> please enlighten me?

> With warm regards,

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> Message: 17

> Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:56:53 +0530

> tvrao <tvrao_agd

> RE: The tone and tenor of Astro discussions

>

> respected narayanji,

>

> great mail which shows the real maturity.

>

> tvr

> 9422203510

>

> Message: 9

> Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:26:46 -0800 (PST)

> kondur narayan <kanrao2000

> The tone and tenor of Astro discussions

>

> Dear sirs,

> I am a new entrant to this group.I joined

> it

> to learn the various points of view in reading the

> charts.I have been reading through all the

> discussions

> but I fear that sometimes the discussions deviate to

> expressions of personal ego.All those in pursuit of

> knowledge may well recollect the sanskrit saying

> "Vidya dadati vinayam,vinayat yati patrata"

>

> It means that the true yard stick of knowledge is

> vidya and the yardstick of capability is vinayam.

> As a retired educationist I am constrained to say

> this.

>

> Regarding the astrology:-Our sages were seers.Based

> on

> the conscious levels they attained they had quoted

> certain principles in reading the horoscopes.To

> understand fully the significance of what they said

> we

> have to enrich our conscious levels by knowledge or

> by

> yoga.

> In twentieth century itself we have witnessed such

> seer in mathematics-Sri Ramanujam.Many of his

> theorems

> in number theory are still not proved.

>

> We all resemble people who go the river Ganges to

> fetch water with the vessels we are carrying.Some

> are

> going with a tumbler, some with a small pot,some

> with

> a bigger one and in general with vessels of various

> sizes. Each one can bring only that much water which

> his or her CONTAINER CAN HOLD.Nobody can bring the

> whole Ganges unless he is another Bhageerath.

>

> So it is always better to listen to all others'

> views

> and finally come to your own way by analysis and

> experimentation.Nobody is greater or superior to the

> other.Indian tradition is to respect age and

> wisdom(measured by the vinayam or humility)

>

> I wish all those who have attained some distinction

> in

> astrology would strive to make astrology more

> scientific and remove the dust that is gathered

> around

> it

> At the end let me Quote

> "Aswaplutam,Vasavagarjitam,koopodakam,streenamcha

> chittam,purushasyabhagyam Devo na janati kuto

> manushyaha"

> Let divine Light shine on all of us

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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