RE: vedic and mohamad to clarify (to Mohan ji)

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--- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman wrote:

 

> you guys are so good about this time periods

> so is it true that bhavisya puran do talk about

> raja bhoj having some message sent to muhamad the

> prophet to take a dip in holy water ganges but

> melesha prophet refused as he said i will give bath

> of blood to my follower

> i am not expert but i read on internet and could not

> believe the puran has reference to muhamad as god

> men

> ranm

>

> Surya Ra o <suryarao12 wrote:

> Dear Sreenadhji,

>

> "Mohan Jyotishi" - name is a misnomer like "Vedic

> Astrology" - Mohan Jyotishi is not a so called

> Jyotishi practising astrology. He is a good

> astronomer and well read in all scriptures and

> thorough with the history of astronomy, Vedic,

> Babylonian, Parasara and Varaha, Garga etc. So he

> knows the time when Vedanga Jyotisha came into

> existence and the quote given of solstitial points.

> He is a master in the history of the so called Vedic

> Astronomy and so he is trying to derive some

> intellectual happiness here by lighting up the

> astrologers.

>

> So your painstaking efforts cannot convince him that

> Parasara was of 1500 BC. 1500 BC is the date of

> Rgveda in India according to standard research.

> Harappa- Mohenjodaro (in the name of some past Mohan

> Jyotishi?)/Sindhu Sarasvati Dravid civilization

> prevailed up to 1900 BC before the decline.

> Archaeology supports such conclusions. Vedic claim

> of Sanskrit glossary in Indus seals is being

> proclaimed as a fraud by Hindu and some internet

> resources. You can make a search of Indus script and

> see the web pages of reputed Oxford researchers who

> condemn the greatest discovery of Vedic India.

>

> So as on date the accepted notions place the maximum

> antiquity of Vedic India at 1500 BC when nomads

> invaded India - according to Romila Thapar.

>

> So how can Parasara Samhita belong to 1500 BC? Mohan

> Jyotishi knows all Sanskrit astronomical works. You

> can see shades of Kashmiri Vedic background in his

> writings asin the case of Sri Avtar Krishen Kaul.

>

> To counter Mohanji, you have to find some Samhita OR

> Siddhanta in Prakrt or Pisachi scripts. Lot more of

> research is required.

>

> Surya Rao

>

>

>

>

>

> Sreenadh <sreelid wrote:

> Dear Mohan ji,

> (This mail is a continuation of my previous mail to

> you)

> You asked:

> > the first thing I would like to know is how you

> > have arrived at the conclusions that Parashara

> Samhita

> > is of 1500 BCE.

> The following is my answer to that question:

> ================================ (Start of article)

> Period of Parasara

> ---------------------

> When Parasara, the author of Parasara Sidhantha,

> Parasara Samhitha and

> Parasara Hora lived? Is it near to Mahabharatha

> period, which as per

> some scholars is near to BC. 3100?

> Or are these texts are written by some Parasara of

> the Parasara Kula

> of later age?

> It is a known fact that this Parasara is the son of

> the Rishi called

> Sakthi who was also a well known person who wrote

> texts related to

> Astrology. There is a sloka in Parasara Samhita

> (quoted in the Vyakhya

> of Varaha Hora by Bhattolpala), which helps us in

> determining the

> period of Parasara, the author of BPHS. The sloka is

> quoted below:

> Srevishtadyath poushnantham charatha sisiraH

> VasanthaH poushnanthyath rohinyantham

> Soumyadyath sarpardham greeshmaH

> Pravid sarpardhath dhasthantham

> Chithradyath indrardham sarth

> Hemantho Jyeshardhath vaishnavantham

> (Parasara Samhitha)

> This sloka indicates that at the time of Parasara,

> Utharayana was

> from the beginning of Dhanishta to the middle of

> Aslesha. That

> happened near to BC.1400 as per astronomical

> calculations. Therefore

> it is sure that Parasara Samhitha was written around

> the period BC.

> 1400. Now the question is, can we be sure that

> Parasara Hora and

> Parasara Sidhantha was written by the same person?

> Yes, because it is

> said that Parasara wrote 3 books on astrology -

> Parasara Sidhanta,

> Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. How? What is

> the proof? In the

> Vyakhya of Varaha Hora, Bhattolpala says:

> Parasara Samhitha kevalamasmabhir drishtam nathu

> jathakam

> Srooyathe skandha treyamithi Parasarasyethi.

> (Varaha Hora - Bhattolpala Vyakhya)

> Meaning, I have seen only Parasara Samhitha, and

> not Parasara Hora.

> But I have heard that Parasara had written books for

> all the 3

> skandhas (i.e. Sidhantha, Samhitha and Hora).

> From all these it is clear that Parasara of BC.1400

> has written 3

> books, i.e. Parasara Sidhatha, Parasara Samhitha and

> Parasara Hora.

> [The game of time and space are curious. I have 3

> scholars in my mind

> while saying this - Bhattolpala (10th Century),

> Kaikulangara (17th

> Century) and Acharya Balabhadra (18th Century).

> Parasara Hora was not

> seen by Bhattolpala but Parasara Samhitha,

> Kaikulangara has seen

> Parasara Hora but not Parasara Samhitha, Bhattolpala

> has seen Gargi

> Hora but not Kaikulangara, Balabhadra and

> Kaikulangara has seen Soura

> Hora (also known as Suryarunasamvadam or

> Sourajathakam) but not

> Bhattolpala. It all just means that some texts that

> were not available

> in some parts of the country were available at some

> other parts of the

> country at the same time. This may be the only cause

> due to which

> Bhattolpala failed to see a copy of Parasara Hora.]

> Now the question comes, Is this the Parasara who was

> the originator

> of Parasara Kula? No, because in Mahabharatha period

> (may be BC.3100)

> as well one Parasara lived. In Brihadaranyopanishad,

> while describing

> the Acharya Paramparas the Rishi speaks about 3

> Prarasaryas and 2

> Parasaryayanas. It reveals that like the

> Sankaracharyas of today,

> everybody of Parasara Kula (Guru-Sishya Parampara)

> was known as

> Parasara. The Rishi Kulas are some what similar to

> the Universities of

> today, it just shows the continuity of

> Teacher-Student relationship

> (Guru-Sishya parampara). While describing the 18

> Acharyas (Acharya

> Kulas) of astrology, Parasara says:

> Viswasrishta narado vyaso vasishtotri parasara

> Lomaso yevanaH suryaschevanaH kasyapo bhrigu

> Pulasthyo manuracharyaH poulisa sounakongiraH

> Gargo mareechirithyethe jcheya jyothiH prevarthaka

> (Parasara Hora)

> See that in this list one Parasara is also

> mentioned. Parasara is not

> going to mention his own name in a book written by

> him. That means

> here Parasara is remembering the originator of

> Parasara Kula who also

> meditated on astrology and propagated this wisdom.

> Then we could think

> that probably the Parasara of Mahabharatha period

> also knew about

> astrology.

> Another point to be noted is that Parasara (of

> BC.1400), also

> mentions the name of Yevana (Yevanacharya). This

> Yevanacharya cannot

> be Sphujidwaja or Meenaraja who lived after the

> period of Alexander

> who invaded India. This Yevanacharya should be the

> originator of

> Yevana Kula of astrology, who lived prior to

> BC.1400. Probably

> Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja were the students of this

> branch of

> astrology.

> I derive 2 conclusions from the above details:

> 1) Parasara who wrote BPHS lived around BC.1400

> 2) Sphujidwaja and Meenaraja are the followers

> of Yevanacharyas

> system of astrology and that is why text written by

> them

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