RE: vedic and mohamad thanks for details

[Guest guest]

namastey sir

we have God men come to earth in past why not now are

we lost

how about science will it replace religion and unite

all of us as

world is so close in communication our views and teach

us to respect

each of individual freedom of worshipping and

coustoms.

 

hat off to you i think you have way to get the detail

and it may not

have wriiten 4000,year back but when mohamad was

living in arab.

its not like nosturdam ,s predictation which seems

like comming true.

so waht is guarantee that all that written in books is

true

my father use to say that first and last page of

knowledge book

is lost and f try to finding those two page all this

is wriiten

that why guru nana

k said veda puran are all stories

this word is vichar and ""vichar" thoght creat this

word so we have to

understand and controol our thoght to seek our real

self.

how we can change the fate of human life

it was alwayws surrounded by war see geeta was written

during mahabharta

mohamad left jeehad in kuran

guru gobind made week hindu lions to fight muslim

ruler for thier

cruelity

so where is god the non voilence

buddha look wonder ful when he preach ther is no God

but you idol worshipp is not the way

but moderation in everything and non voilence and

sutras may give us

nirvana,

i want to take sanyasa if i find someone teacher like

that credendial

most of teacher come to temple in town i live seems

are ful of desire

like me when i came to usa ,

or they are not in peace they are selling to follower

here

i have five planet in 4th house one astrologer in

kapurthala "punjab""told me i will get moksha this

life i laugh at him as i dont desire it i am wordly .

i was 19 and crazy those days and preparing to

represent india in asian game in waterpolo.But

astrologer words may

this make me intrested in astrology later on it dawn

that its not bad idea to go that way now i read one

book that jupitor in capricorn in second house keep

bhisma pitameh denounce the kingdom ,\

i do have jupitor in second house in capricorn but i

really dont like to

do what bhisma did i love my family and want to

provide for their welfare

and the astrolger said my sat in leo in 9th house give

me suuden richness and i read it may give a political

prison too.

t rahu in fifth many sons but i am satisfy with one

one thing true i seek company of wise where i could

catch the

peace they radiate to there surrounding.

presence of sage last century bhagwan ramana seems

to answer

that search now he is no more here but may be in 4 yr

when i retire

i may have good luck to visit arunachala hill and

breath the air

where his presense may have impressions.

my life though was roller coaster but on reflection i

loved all of it

and like bhisma i did help most of my nieces with

money to bulid their

home and my mother think it was too much as thier

husbands spend lot,and i tell my mother its just

previlaged to help if i was in india i may not have

done this.and my nephew one grown up has a great job

as senior information officer in indian govt and well

off so he never ask

help but i could have send him 15000 dollar for his

home too,my brother keep on saying send him too and i

told him he has to ask not you.

thinking to get some land either in haridhwar or near

arunachala holi hill and get old age spent

in holi land my otherland india .

is this all due to sun mahadasa in my horoscope i must

have to see that astrologer in kapurthala hope he

still alive he may be close to

ninety now .

 

 

thanks again

ram

 

 

--- KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham

wrote:

 

> Namaste,

>

> I also remember to have read on what you have said

> here below,the following link may throw more light

> on

> the PAST HISTORY.

>

> http://answering-islam.org.uk/Mna/hindu.html

> [Prophet Muhammad in Hindu Scriptures?

> By M. N. Anderson

> 1999 by M. N. Anderson.]

>

> Let us be all friends with our vedic friends.

>

> --- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman wrote:

>

> > you guys are so good about this time periods

> > so is it true that bhavisya puran do talk about

> > raja bhoj having some message sent to muhamad the

> > prophet to take a dip in holy water ganges but

> > melesha prophet refused as he said i will give

> bath

> > of blood to my follower

> > i am not expert but i read on internet and could

> not

> > believe the puran has reference to muhamad as god

> > men

> > ranm

> >

> > Surya Ra o <suryarao12 wrote:

> > Dear Sreenadhji,

> >

> > "Mohan Jyotishi" - name is a misnomer like "Vedic

> > Astrology" - Mohan Jyotishi is not a so called

> > Jyotishi practising astrology. He is a good

> > astronomer and well read in all scriptures and

> > thorough with the history of astronomy, Vedic,

> > Babylonian, Parasara and Varaha, Garga etc. So he

> > knows the time when Vedanga Jyotisha came into

> > existence and the quote given of solstitial

> points.

> > He is a master in the history of the so called

> Vedic

> > Astronomy and so he is trying to derive some

> > intellectual happiness here by lighting up the

> > astrologers.

> >

> > So your painstaking efforts cannot convince him

> that

> > Parasara was of 1500 BC. 1500 BC is the date of

> > Rgveda in India according to standard research.

> > Harappa- Mohenjodaro (in the name of some past

> Mohan

> > Jyotishi?)/Sindhu Sarasvati Dravid civilization

> > prevailed up to 1900 BC before the decline.

> > Archaeology supports such conclusions. Vedic claim

> > of Sanskrit glossary in Indus seals is being

> > proclaimed as a fraud by Hindu and some internet

> > resources. You can make a search of Indus script

> and

> > see the web pages of reputed Oxford researchers

> who

> > condemn the greatest discovery of Vedic India.

> >

> > So as on date the accepted notions place the

> maximum

> > antiquity of Vedic India at 1500 BC when nomads

> > invaded India - according to Romila Thapar.

> >

> > So how can Parasara Samhita belong to 1500 BC?

> Mohan

> > Jyotishi knows all Sanskrit astronomical works.

> You

> > can see shades of Kashmiri Vedic background in his

> > writings asin the case of Sri Avtar Krishen Kaul.

> >

> > To counter Mohanji, you have to find some Samhita

> OR

> > Siddhanta in Prakrt or Pisachi scripts. Lot more

> of

> > research is required.

> >

> > Surya Rao

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sreenadh <sreelid wrote:

> > Dear Mohan ji,

> > (This mail is a continuation of my previous mail

> to

> > you)

> > You asked:

> > > the first thing I would like to know is how you

> > > have arrived at the conclusions that Parashara

> > Samhita

> > > is of 1500 BCE.

> > The following is my answer to that question:

> > ================================ (Start of

> article)

> > Period of Parasara

> > ---------------------

> > When Parasara, the author of Parasara Sidhantha,

> > Parasara Samhitha and

> > Parasara Hora lived? Is it near to Mahabharatha

> > period, which as per

> > some scholars is near to BC. 3100?

> > Or are these texts are written by some Parasara of

> > the Parasara Kula

> > of later age?

> > It is a known fact that this Parasara is the son

> of

> > the Rishi called

> > Sakthi who was also a well known person who wrote

> > texts related to

> > Astrology. There is a sloka in Parasara Samhita

> > (quoted in the Vyakhya

> > of Varaha Hora by Bhattolpala), which helps us in

> > determining the

> > period of Parasara, the author of BPHS. The sloka

> is

> > quoted below:

> > Srevishtadyath poushnantham charatha sisiraH

> > VasanthaH poushnanthyath rohinyantham

> > Soumyadyath sarpardham greeshmaH

> > Pravid sarpardhath dhasthantham

> > Chithradyath indrardham sarth

> > Hemantho Jyeshardhath vaishnavantham

> > (Parasara Samhitha)

> > This sloka indicates that at the time of Parasara,

> > Utharayana was

> > from the beginning of Dhanishta to the middle of

> > Aslesha. That

> > happened near to BC.1400 as per astronomical

> > calculations. Therefore

> > it is sure that Parasara Samhitha was written

> around

> > the period BC.

> > 1400. Now the question is, can we be sure that

> > Parasara Hora and

> > Parasara Sidhantha was written by the same person?

> > Yes, because it is

> > said that Parasara wrote 3 books on astrology -

> > Parasara Sidhanta,

> > Parasara Samhitha and Parasara Hora. How? What is

> > the proof? In the

> > Vyakhya of Varaha Hora, Bhattolpala says:

> > Parasara Samhitha kevalamasmabhir drishtam nathu

> > jathakam

> > Srooyathe skandha treyamithi Parasarasyethi.

> > (Varaha Hora - Bhattolpala Vyakhya)

> > Meaning, I have seen only Parasara Samhitha, and

> > not Parasara Hora.

> > But I have heard that Parasara had written books

> for

> > all the 3

> > skandhas (i.e. Sidhantha, Samhitha and Hora).

> > From all these it is clear that Parasara of

> BC.1400

> > has written 3

> > books, i.e. Parasara Sidhatha, Parasara Samhitha

> and

> > Parasara Hora.

> > [The game of time and space are curious. I have 3

> > scholars in my mind

> > while saying this - Bhattolpala (10th Century),

> > Kaikulangara (17th

> > Century) and Acharya Balabhadra (18th Century).

> > Parasara Hora was not

> > seen by Bhattolpala but Parasara Samhitha,

> > Kaikulangara has seen

> > Parasara Hora but not Parasara Samhitha,

> Bhattolpala

> > has seen Gargi

> > Hora but not Kaikulangara, Balabhadra and

> > Kaikulangara has seen Soura

> > Hora (also known as Suryarunasamvadam or

> > Sourajathakam) but not

> > Bhattolpala. It all just means that some texts

> that

> > were not available

> > in some parts of the country were available at

> some

> > other parts of the

> > country at the same time. This may be the only

> cause

> > due to which

> > Bhattolpala failed to see a copy of Parasara

> Hora.]

> > Now the question comes, Is this the Parasara who

> was

> > the originator

> > of Parasara Kula? No, because in Mahabharatha

> period

> > (may be BC.3100)

> > as well one Parasara lived. In

> Brihadaranyopanishad,

> > while describing

> > the Acharya Paramparas the Rishi speaks about 3

> > Prarasaryas and 2

>

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