Laug and love - Sreenadhji

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Great fighters always loved each other - we know such great people like

Alexander the Great and Porus... Rohini Ranjan has seen only poor fighters who

detest each other. So don't worry about her comments. Continue your

intellectual wrestling and love your opponents including Rohini Ranjan. Don't

give harsh replies

 

Surya RaoSreenadh <sreelid > wrote:

Dear Rohini,In your words:> How can you laugh 'at' something or someone and

still manage to end > your posts with 'love'?I am not criticizing PVR, but the

concept of D-charts. Please, don't twist it. Yes, as you said he posts my

messages, and will continue to do so, since HE IS SINCERE to the subject he is

dealing with. You may take time to understand it. . We DON'T have any

personal quarrel. As clearly stated by PVR, Vedic astrology forum is for

astrological research and NOT for making propaganda for ANY special theories.

If you cannot understand the views of me or PVR, just forget it!!!> Or was it

love just for some ;-)Yes, you have your poison intact. ;-). Why hide? Spell it

out.> Plus the clear indications of there being houses and drishtis from >

karakamsha (BPHS) and drishtis between sun, mercury

and venus > (Saravali) also indicate that classics were talking about varga >

charts and not just vargas!Poor!!! What you are talking about? The controversy

is whether to follow Vargas or D-charts. And what you are speaking

about?Love,SreenadhMessage: 12 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:44:32 -0000

"rohiniranjan" <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca>Re: Throwing away rasi chart? (To

Narasimha.)Sreenad ji,I am curious about something :-)How can you laugh 'at'

something or someone and still manage to end your posts with 'love'?Or was it

love just for some ;-)RRMessage: 11 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:38:38

-0000 "rohiniranjan" <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca>Re: Laughing at

divisional transitsPlus the clear indications of there being houses

and drishtis from karakamsha (BPHS) and drishtis between sun, mercury and venus

(Saravali) also indicate that classics were talking about varga charts and not

just vargas! I have recently uploaded an article, probably here too in the

files that gives more details.RRvedic astrology,

"rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote:>> Plus the clear indications of there being

houses and drishtis from > karakamsha (BPHS) and drishtis between sun, mercury

and venus > (Saravali) also indicate that classics were talking about varga >

charts and not just vargas! I have recently uploaded an article, > probably

here too in the files that gives more details.> > RR> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote:> >>

> Dear Sreenadh,> > > > Regarding classics supporting "vargas" but

not "varga charts", we > clearly have a different view and let us leave it at

that. For now at > least...> > > > You are most welcome to "laugh at" my

researches on transits in > divisional charts. I clearly said they were my

researches and did not > resort to any misrepresentation regarding classics.> >

> > However, I need to give some credits to existing literature and > tradition

that inspired me.> > > > The idea of looking at the houses occupied by transit

planets in > kshetra (rasi) chakra with respect to the sign occupied by natal

Moon > in *navamsa* is not mine. Sri CS Patel mentions it in a book and >

attributes it to nadi texts. My guru Pt Sanjay Rath also told me that > that

idea existed in tradition and that even dasamsa Moon could be > taken.> > > >

Secondly, the idea of looking at

the navamsas occupied by planets > in transit and their interaction with natal

rasi chart is also not my > original idea. Some principles attributed by

Maharshi Bhrigu in > tradition use such transit analysis. Even Maharshi Jaimini

refers to > conception when Sun transits the amsa containing Ketu.> > > > Thus,

amsa transits were mentioned in tradition. I have only > generalized it,

included aspects and included divisional longitudes > for studying the

closeness of aspects. Thus, my contribution is very > little and it stands on

the foundation given by previous works.> > > > Of course, when your

perspective and mine are so different, things > that seem obvious, exciting and

inspiring to me may seem silly and > laughable to you. I fully understand that

and respect your views. I > share my views thinking that there may be someone

out there who finds >

them useful. The Mother hasn't yet made me feel that my work in > Jyotish is

over and I have to move on.> > > > * * *> > > > This is not for

Sreenadh and for others who don't "laugh at" my > views on transits in

divisional charts.> > > > Take the chart of Rajiv Gandhi. His birthdata is:

1944 August 20, > 7:12:45 am (72 E 49' 00", 18 N 58' 00")> > > > When he took

office as India's prime Minister on 1984 October 31, > Jupiter was transiting

in the 16th degree of Sg. When he lost office > on 1989 November 24, Saturn was

transiting around the same place, at > 17Sg41. To me, it is interesting that

natal Mercury is at 17Sg10 in > navamsa chart. Mercury is AK and the 10th lord

of dasamsa chart. > Navamsas occupied by planets show the blessings

carried by them. When > Jupiter or Saturn transit in rasi chart close to the

navamsa > longitude of a planet, they seem to enhance and deplete the

blessings.> > > > It is interesting to me that Jupiter's rasi transit clkose

to > Mercury's natal navamsa longitude made him PM and Saturn transit > close

to it took him down.> > > > Now look at Mars. He is yoga karaka in rasi chart

and 5th lord in > dasmasa. In rasi chart, he is at 1Vi13. Let us see transits

close to > this longitude in navamsa and dasamsa charts. When he ascended to >

power, Jupiter had a close aspect on it from 1Ta40 of dasamsa. No > other

planets had a close aspect. Or, we can say Venus also had half > aspect from

2Cp48 of navamsa.> > > > On the contrary, when he lost power, yogas and

aspects on 1Vi13 > were bad. Saturn was transiting nearby at 9Vi10 in navamsa

chart. > More importantly, Rahu was transiting at exactly 1Vi10 in navamsa >

chart! Navamsa shows blessings and Rahu navamsa shows which blessings > are

going to be destroyed/eclipsed and Saturn's navamsa shows which > blessings are

going to be depleted.> > > > When the rasi chart positions of key natal planets

are closely > occupied/aspected by transit planets in navamsa/other amsas and

when > the navamsas of key natal planets are closely occupied/aspected by >

transit planets in rasi, we can often find important events.> > > > * *

*> > > > This is just research, though it is based on the foundation

given > by classics and tradition. Those who want to benefit from it welcome >

to do so. Those who want to laugh at it are also welcome to do so.>

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha> >

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Namaste Paditji,> > > Those after the D-charts (like PVR etc) say that Transit

can be > > > interpreted in D-charts as well. What classical references they > >

> have?!!!! NO!!!NOTHING!!! If it is D-charts or Varga_charts it is > all > > >

the same. Classics supports the use of ONLY

Vargas.> > > Now comming to their theory of transit in D-charts/Varga charts. >

> > Here is some interesting notes. By me, and some by Surya Rao. His > > > mail

inspired me, and made me laugh at the "Transit theory on D-> > > charts". That

is why I am reproducing it as well.> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> >>

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