Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 How to Predict with Hora (Horamsa)? =================================== The 7-fold prediction system used to predict with Natal chart is used with Vargas as well, with the only exception that Aspect (Drishti) is not considered in Vargas. Now let us consider the question, 'How to predict with Horamsa?'. The same 7-fold prediction system using 1) Sign, 2) House, 3) Planet, 4)Sign-House 5)Sign-Planet, 6)House-Planet 7)Sign-House-Planet is used in predicting with Horamsa as well. How? Read below: Horamsa = R x 2 (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude) 1) Sign ---- If the Horamsa (of Lagna/Planet) is X then predict this. (Where X denotes the Horamsa Number, which falls in some Sign). 2) House ----- If the Horamsa of the lord of Y1 House falls in Y2 house then predict this. (Where Y1 and Y2 denote two Houses) 3) Planet ------ If the planets Z1 and Z2 has a combination in Horamsa then predict this. (Where Z1 and Z2 denote two Planets) 4) Sign-House ---------- If the Horamsa of the lord of Y House from Natal Legna falls in X Sign then predict this. (Where Y is the House and X is a Sign) 5) Sign-Planet ----------- If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in X Sign then predict this. (Where X is the sign and Z is the Planet) 6) House-Planet ------------ If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna then predict this. (Where Y is the House and Z is the Planet) 7) Sign-House-Planet ----------------- If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna in X Sign then predict this. (Where X is the Sign, Y is the House and Z is the Planet) There are hundreds of slokas (if not thousands) that proves that this is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' used to predict with Horamsa. THE SAME RULE APPLIES FOR NATAL CHART (KESHETRA), AS WELL AS ALL THE 12 VARGAS (Dwadesa Vargas). [bTW: The Shadvargadhipa system is another system similar to this employed by the Rishis for deriving predictions using *Varga lords* (note the emphasis. NOT Vargas But Varga lords)] [The other multiples that we observe in some texts such as Rx30, Rx60, Rx81, Rx108, Rx150 etc are mere logical extensions of the Basic principle - created and supported by the Rishis with a purpose. We cannot create RxM multiples for any number forgetting the basic Dwadesa Varga (Rx1...Rx12) system and 7-fold method for deriving Phala] Those who are interested in understanding the original 7-fold prediction system used to derive predictions may note this. It is the clear_cut/ logically_perfect method employed by the Rishis in predicting with all Vargas including the Natal chart itself. [bTW: It is not a mere intellectual/logical classification done by me, but a system based on authentic references from Rishi Horas] How to derive Vargas? --------------------- Vargamsa = R x M (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude and M is the Multiplier to be used) [Yes, if you want you can say that we are speaking about HARMONICS, as scholars like Pradeep, Sanjay Prabhakaran, Surya Rao etc puts it] A detailed exposition of the sub principles involved in predicting with Vargas will be given elaborately, once all controversies are over and people settle down to learn the original authentic system (based on classical references). A detailed discussion of this subject is not encouraged now, as many other controversies support for D-Charts/ Varga-Charts etc in Classics, is currently under discussion/ controversy. I sincerely hope that PVR will also note this since he is a sincere seeker of the truth of astrology, and its fundamental methods. [bTW: Nakshatra (Austrians) is not considered here while describing the 7-fold system of deriving prediction, since the prediction using the Nakshatra Chakra is an independent and separate system, with its own unique laws to follow. I suggest you to ask Sreenivas if anybody wants to have an elaboration of the same, since he has dealt with the subject in length in several of his previous messages] Think of it for a while. I restrict myself from the details/ exposition of the principles and sub-principles involved (everything well supported by the classics) for the time being. Of course we can have a detailed discussion of the same later, if somebody is interested. You should remember that almost the whole of astrology falls into these classification. Therefore there are thousands of slokas (if not lakhs) to prove that this is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' used (by Rishis and Acharyas) to derive Phala (prediction) in astrology (here I am speaking about the whole of astrology, not just about Vargas). This can be proved by considering just ANY authentic text/ classic of astrology, merging all controversies/contradictions into a single whole, and revealing the truth involved. Love, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dear Sreenadh, Why dont you take an example and elaborate. It will be much more interesting than this!! Why dont you demonstrate this with examples!! All this time, over the past few months ... all you guys have been doing is ... dole out reams and reams of theory ... but no real-life examples!!! Applicability should also be demonstrated! -Narayan vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid> wrote: > > How to Predict with Hora (Horamsa)? > =================================== > The 7-fold prediction system used to predict with Natal chart is used > with Vargas as well, with the only exception that Aspect (Drishti) is > not considered in Vargas. Now let us consider the question, 'How to > predict with Horamsa?'. > The same 7-fold prediction system using 1) Sign, 2) House, 3) Planet, > 4)Sign-House 5)Sign-Planet, 6)House-Planet 7)Sign-House-Planet is used > in predicting with Horamsa as well. How? Read below: > > Horamsa = R x 2 (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude) > > 1) Sign > ---- > If the Horamsa (of Lagna/Planet) is X then predict this. (Where X > denotes the Horamsa Number, which falls in some Sign). > 2) House > ----- > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y1 House falls in Y2 house then predict > this. (Where Y1 and Y2 denote two Houses) > 3) Planet > ------ > If the planets Z1 and Z2 has a combination in Horamsa then predict > this. (Where Z1 and Z2 denote two Planets) > 4) Sign-House > ---------- > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y House from Natal Legna falls in X > Sign then predict this. (Where Y is the House and X is a Sign) > 5) Sign-Planet > ----------- > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in X Sign then predict this. (Where > X is the sign and Z is the Planet) > 6) House-Planet > ------------ > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna then > predict this. (Where Y is the House and Z is the Planet) > 7) Sign-House-Planet > ----------------- > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna in X > Sign then predict this. (Where X is the Sign, Y is the House and Z is > the Planet) > > There are hundreds of slokas (if not thousands) that proves that this > is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' used to predict with Horamsa. > THE SAME RULE APPLIES FOR NATAL CHART (KESHETRA), AS WELL AS ALL THE > 12 VARGAS (Dwadesa Vargas). > > [bTW: The Shadvargadhipa system is another system similar to this > employed by the Rishis for deriving predictions using *Varga lords* > (note the emphasis. NOT Vargas But Varga lords)] > > [The other multiples that we observe in some texts such as Rx30, > Rx60, Rx81, Rx108, Rx150 etc are mere logical extensions of the Basic > principle - created and supported by the Rishis with a purpose. We > cannot create RxM multiples for any number forgetting the basic > Dwadesa Varga (Rx1...Rx12) system and 7-fold method for deriving > Phala] > > Those who are interested in understanding the original 7-fold > prediction system used to derive predictions may note this. It is the > clear_cut/ logically_perfect method employed by the Rishis in > predicting with all Vargas including the Natal chart itself. [bTW: It > is not a mere intellectual/logical classification done by me, but a > system based on authentic references from Rishi Horas] > > How to derive Vargas? > --------------------- > Vargamsa = R x M (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude and M is the > Multiplier to be used) > > [Yes, if you want you can say that we are speaking about HARMONICS, as > scholars like Pradeep, Sanjay Prabhakaran, Surya Rao etc puts it] > > A detailed exposition of the sub principles involved in predicting > with Vargas will be given elaborately, once all controversies are over > and people settle down to learn the original authentic system (based > on classical references). A detailed discussion of this subject is not > encouraged now, as many other controversies support for D-Charts/ > Varga-Charts etc in Classics, is currently under discussion/ > controversy. > I sincerely hope that PVR will also note this since he is a sincere > seeker of the truth of astrology, and its fundamental methods. > > [bTW: Nakshatra (Austrians) is not considered here while describing > the 7-fold system of deriving prediction, since the prediction using > the Nakshatra Chakra is an independent and separate system, with its > own unique laws to follow. I suggest you to ask Sreenivas if anybody > wants to have an elaboration of the same, since he has dealt with the > subject in length in several of his previous messages] > > Think of it for a while. I restrict myself from the details/ > exposition of the principles and sub-principles involved (everything > well supported by the classics) for the time being. Of course we can > have a detailed discussion of the same later, if somebody is > interested. > You should remember that almost the whole of astrology falls into > these classification. Therefore there are thousands of slokas (if not > lakhs) to prove that this is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' used > (by Rishis and Acharyas) to derive Phala (prediction) in astrology > (here I am speaking about the whole of astrology, not just about > Vargas). This can be proved by considering just ANY authentic text/ > classic of astrology, merging all controversies/contradictions into a > single whole, and revealing the truth involved. > Love, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Dear Narayan ji, As I have indicated in my mail: Of course we can have a detailed discussion with the same, with examples and elaborate on the same, once this theoretical discussion is over (at least to some extend), and we come to an understanding and agreement at least to a certain extend in the fundamental theoretical issues. As for now, many other controversies such as, support for D-Charts/Varga-Charts etc in Classics, is currently under discussion/controversy and you can see the effort I am taking to bring the point home!! As you have stated, I would love take an example and elaborate on the same. (Wait! There are big things in store!!!). By the way, I hope that you will agree on the fact that, "theoretical discussions are also important in certain issues". Give and take of information concerning the relevant subject is the need and purpose of in such forums, and dear Narayan ji, can you say that I am (i.e. my mails) not fulfilling the same?! Love, Sreenadh vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" <jaimini. upadesa@g...> wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > Why dont you take an example and elaborate. It will be much more > interesting than this!! Why dont you demonstrate this with examples !! > > All this time, over the past few months ... all you guys have been > doing is ... dole out reams and reams of theory ... but no real-life > examples!!! > > Applicability should also be demonstrated! > > -Narayan > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid> > wrote: > > > > How to Predict with Hora (Horamsa)? > > =================================== > > The 7-fold prediction system used to predict with Natal chart is > used > > with Vargas as well, with the only exception that Aspect (Drishti) > is > > not considered in Vargas. Now let us consider the question, 'How > to > > predict with Horamsa?'. > > The same 7-fold prediction system using 1) Sign, 2) House, 3) > Planet, > > 4)Sign-House 5)Sign-Planet, 6)House-Planet 7)Sign-House-Planet is > used > > in predicting with Horamsa as well. How? Read below: > > > > Horamsa = R x 2 (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude) > > > > 1) Sign > > ---- > > If the Horamsa (of Lagna/Planet) is X then predict this. (Where X > > denotes the Horamsa Number, which falls in some Sign). > > 2) House > > ----- > > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y1 House falls in Y2 house then > predict > > this. (Where Y1 and Y2 denote two Houses) > > 3) Planet > > ------ > > If the planets Z1 and Z2 has a combination in Horamsa then > predict > > this. (Where Z1 and Z2 denote two Planets) > > 4) Sign-House > > ---------- > > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y House from Natal Legna falls in X > > Sign then predict this. (Where Y is the House and X is a Sign) > > 5) Sign-Planet > > ----------- > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in X Sign then predict this. > (Where > > X is the sign and Z is the Planet) > > 6) House-Planet > > ------------ > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna then > > predict this. (Where Y is the House and Z is the Planet) > > 7) Sign-House-Planet > > ----------------- > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna in X > > Sign then predict this. (Where X is the Sign, Y is the House and Z > is > > the Planet) > > > > There are hundreds of slokas (if not thousands) that proves that > this > > is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' used to predict with Horamsa. > > THE SAME RULE APPLIES FOR NATAL CHART (KESHETRA), AS WELL AS ALL > THE > > 12 VARGAS (Dwadesa Vargas). > > > > [bTW: The Shadvargadhipa system is another system similar to this > > employed by the Rishis for deriving predictions using *Varga > lords* > > (note the emphasis. NOT Vargas But Varga lords)] > > > > [The other multiples that we observe in some texts such as Rx30, > > Rx60, Rx81, Rx108, Rx150 etc are mere logical extensions of the > Basic > > principle - created and supported by the Rishis with a purpose. We > > cannot create RxM multiples for any number forgetting the basic > > Dwadesa Varga (Rx1...Rx12) system and 7-fold method for deriving > > Phala] > > > > Those who are interested in understanding the original 7-fold > > prediction system used to derive predictions may note this. It is > the > > clear_cut/ logically_perfect method employed by the Rishis in > > predicting with all Vargas including the Natal chart itself. [bTW: > It > > is not a mere intellectual/logical classification done by me, but > a > > system based on authentic references from Rishi Horas] > > > > How to derive Vargas? > > --------------------- > > Vargamsa = R x M (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude and M is the > > Multiplier to be used) > > > > [Yes, if you want you can say that we are speaking about > HARMONICS, as > > scholars like Pradeep, Sanjay Prabhakaran, Surya Rao etc puts it] > > > > A detailed exposition of the sub principles involved in > predicting > > with Vargas will be given elaborately, once all controversies are > over > > and people settle down to learn the original authentic system > (based > > on classical references). A detailed discussion of this subject is > not > > encouraged now, as many other controversies support for D-Charts/ > > Varga-Charts etc in Classics, is currently under discussion/ > > controversy. > > I sincerely hope that PVR will also note this since he is a > sincere > > seeker of the truth of astrology, and its fundamental methods. > > > > [bTW: Nakshatra (Austrians) is not considered here while > describing > > the 7-fold system of deriving prediction, since the prediction > using > > the Nakshatra Chakra is an independent and separate system, with > its > > own unique laws to follow. I suggest you to ask Sreenivas if > anybody > > wants to have an elaboration of the same, since he has dealt with > the > > subject in length in several of his previous messages] > > > > Think of it for a while. I restrict myself from the details/ > > exposition of the principles and sub-principles involved > (everything > > well supported by the classics) for the time being. Of course we > can > > have a detailed discussion of the same later, if somebody is > > interested. > > You should remember that almost the whole of astrology falls into > > these classification. Therefore there are thousands of slokas (if > not > > lakhs) to prove that this is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' > used > > (by Rishis and Acharyas) to derive Phala (prediction) in astrology > > (here I am speaking about the whole of astrology, not just about > > Vargas). This can be proved by considering just ANY authentic text/ > > classic of astrology, merging all controversies/contradictions > into a > > single whole, and revealing the truth involved. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Dear Narayan ji, When I read that mail again. I felt something more: > Why don't you take an example and elaborate. It will be much more > interesting than this!! You mean to you, or to all those who post messages on the forum? How can you say about them? I hope it would be your opinion. > All this time, over the past few months ... all you guys have been > doing is ... dole out reams and reams of theory ... but no real-life > examples!!! Not at all diplomatic!!! Doesn't sound good from the part of an aged scholar !!! "all you guys have been doing.." Who? See the arrogance in your statement. I should suggest, you should take some action against yourself. ). > Applicability should also be demonstrated! Is it a suggestion or order?!! I have never seen you in those conversations!!! I am fully in doubt, "Are you speaking as the moderator or as a member?". Dear Narayan ji, please clarify. Love, Sreenadh vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" <jaimini. upadesa@g...> wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > Why dont you take an example and elaborate. It will be much more > interesting than this!! Why dont you demonstrate this with examples !! > > All this time, over the past few months ... all you guys have been > doing is ... dole out reams and reams of theory ... but no real-life > examples!!! > > Applicability should also be demonstrated! > > -Narayan > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid> > wrote: > > > > How to Predict with Hora (Horamsa)? > > =================================== > > The 7-fold prediction system used to predict with Natal chart is > used > > with Vargas as well, with the only exception that Aspect (Drishti) > is > > not considered in Vargas. Now let us consider the question, 'How > to > > predict with Horamsa?'. > > The same 7-fold prediction system using 1) Sign, 2) House, 3) > Planet, > > 4)Sign-House 5)Sign-Planet, 6)House-Planet 7)Sign-House-Planet is > used > > in predicting with Horamsa as well. How? Read below: > > > > Horamsa = R x 2 (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude) > > > > 1) Sign > > ---- > > If the Horamsa (of Lagna/Planet) is X then predict this. (Where X > > denotes the Horamsa Number, which falls in some Sign). > > 2) House > > ----- > > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y1 House falls in Y2 house then > predict > > this. (Where Y1 and Y2 denote two Houses) > > 3) Planet > > ------ > > If the planets Z1 and Z2 has a combination in Horamsa then > predict > > this. (Where Z1 and Z2 denote two Planets) > > 4) Sign-House > > ---------- > > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y House from Natal Legna falls in X > > Sign then predict this. (Where Y is the House and X is a Sign) > > 5) Sign-Planet > > ----------- > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in X Sign then predict this. > (Where > > X is the sign and Z is the Planet) > > 6) House-Planet > > ------------ > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna then > > predict this. (Where Y is the House and Z is the Planet) > > 7) Sign-House-Planet > > ----------------- > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna in X > > Sign then predict this. (Where X is the Sign, Y is the House and Z > is > > the Planet) > > > > There are hundreds of slokas (if not thousands) that proves that > this > > is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' used to predict with Horamsa. > > THE SAME RULE APPLIES FOR NATAL CHART (KESHETRA), AS WELL AS ALL > THE > > 12 VARGAS (Dwadesa Vargas). > > > > [bTW: The Shadvargadhipa system is another system similar to this > > employed by the Rishis for deriving predictions using *Varga > lords* > > (note the emphasis. NOT Vargas But Varga lords)] > > > > [The other multiples that we observe in some texts such as Rx30, > > Rx60, Rx81, Rx108, Rx150 etc are mere logical extensions of the > Basic > > principle - created and supported by the Rishis with a purpose. We > > cannot create RxM multiples for any number forgetting the basic > > Dwadesa Varga (Rx1...Rx12) system and 7-fold method for deriving > > Phala] > > > > Those who are interested in understanding the original 7-fold > > prediction system used to derive predictions may note this. It is > the > > clear_cut/ logically_perfect method employed by the Rishis in > > predicting with all Vargas including the Natal chart itself. [bTW: > It > > is not a mere intellectual/logical classification done by me, but > a > > system based on authentic references from Rishi Horas] > > > > How to derive Vargas? > > --------------------- > > Vargamsa = R x M (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude and M is the > > Multiplier to be used) > > > > [Yes, if you want you can say that we are speaking about > HARMONICS, as > > scholars like Pradeep, Sanjay Prabhakaran, Surya Rao etc puts it] > > > > A detailed exposition of the sub principles involved in > predicting > > with Vargas will be given elaborately, once all controversies are > over > > and people settle down to learn the original authentic system > (based > > on classical references). A detailed discussion of this subject is > not > > encouraged now, as many other controversies support for D-Charts/ > > Varga-Charts etc in Classics, is currently under discussion/ > > controversy. > > I sincerely hope that PVR will also note this since he is a > sincere > > seeker of the truth of astrology, and its fundamental methods. > > > > [bTW: Nakshatra (Austrians) is not considered here while > describing > > the 7-fold system of deriving prediction, since the prediction > using > > the Nakshatra Chakra is an independent and separate system, with > its > > own unique laws to follow. I suggest you to ask Sreenivas if > anybody > > wants to have an elaboration of the same, since he has dealt with > the > > subject in length in several of his previous messages] > > > > Think of it for a while. I restrict myself from the details/ > > exposition of the principles and sub-principles involved > (everything > > well supported by the classics) for the time being. Of course we > can > > have a detailed discussion of the same later, if somebody is > > interested. > > You should remember that almost the whole of astrology falls into > > these classification. Therefore there are thousands of slokas (if > not > > lakhs) to prove that this is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' > used > > (by Rishis and Acharyas) to derive Phala (prediction) in astrology > > (here I am speaking about the whole of astrology, not just about > > Vargas). This can be proved by considering just ANY authentic text/ > > classic of astrology, merging all controversies/contradictions > into a > > single whole, and revealing the truth involved. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Dear Sreenadh, The proof of the pudding is in the eating. So, if you cant demonstrate the applicability and usage of *your theories* effectively, all these theorizing is pointless!! If you can't, then no problem! Good Luck to you! Sincerely -Narayan vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid> wrote: > > Dear Narayan ji, > When I read that mail again. I felt something more: > > Why don't you take an example and elaborate. It will be much more > > interesting than this!! > You mean to you, or to all those who post messages on the forum? How > can you say about them? I hope it would be your opinion. > > All this time, over the past few months ... all you guys have been > > doing is ... dole out reams and reams of theory ... but no real- life > > examples!!! > Not at all diplomatic!!! Doesn't sound good from the part of an aged > scholar !!! "all you guys have been doing.." Who? See the arrogance in > your statement. I should suggest, you should take some action against > yourself. ). > > Applicability should also be demonstrated! > Is it a suggestion or order?!! I have never seen you in those > conversations!!! I am fully in doubt, "Are you speaking as the > moderator or as a member?". Dear Narayan ji, please clarify. > Love, > Sreenadh > > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer" <jaimini. > upadesa@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh, > > > > Why dont you take an example and elaborate. It will be much more > > interesting than this!! Why dont you demonstrate this with examples > !! > > > > All this time, over the past few months ... all you guys have been > > doing is ... dole out reams and reams of theory ... but no real- life > > examples!!! > > > > Applicability should also be demonstrated! > > > > -Narayan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid> > > wrote: > > > > > > How to Predict with Hora (Horamsa)? > > > =================================== > > > The 7-fold prediction system used to predict with Natal chart is > > used > > > with Vargas as well, with the only exception that Aspect (Drishti) > > is > > > not considered in Vargas. Now let us consider the question, 'How > > to > > > predict with Horamsa?'. > > > The same 7-fold prediction system using 1) Sign, 2) House, 3) > > Planet, > > > 4)Sign-House 5)Sign-Planet, 6)House-Planet 7)Sign-House-Planet is > > used > > > in predicting with Horamsa as well. How? Read below: > > > > > > Horamsa = R x 2 (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude) > > > > > > 1) Sign > > > ---- > > > If the Horamsa (of Lagna/Planet) is X then predict this. (Where X > > > denotes the Horamsa Number, which falls in some Sign). > > > 2) House > > > ----- > > > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y1 House falls in Y2 house then > > predict > > > this. (Where Y1 and Y2 denote two Houses) > > > 3) Planet > > > ------ > > > If the planets Z1 and Z2 has a combination in Horamsa then > > predict > > > this. (Where Z1 and Z2 denote two Planets) > > > 4) Sign-House > > > ---------- > > > If the Horamsa of the lord of Y House from Natal Legna falls in X > > > Sign then predict this. (Where Y is the House and X is a Sign) > > > 5) Sign-Planet > > > ----------- > > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in X Sign then predict this. > > (Where > > > X is the sign and Z is the Planet) > > > 6) House-Planet > > > ------------ > > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna then > > > predict this. (Where Y is the House and Z is the Planet) > > > 7) Sign-House-Planet > > > ----------------- > > > If the Horamsa of Z Planet falls in Y house from Natal Lagna in X > > > Sign then predict this. (Where X is the Sign, Y is the House and Z > > is > > > the Planet) > > > > > > There are hundreds of slokas (if not thousands) that proves that > > this > > > is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' used to predict with Horamsa. > > > THE SAME RULE APPLIES FOR NATAL CHART (KESHETRA), AS WELL AS ALL > > THE > > > 12 VARGAS (Dwadesa Vargas). > > > > > > [bTW: The Shadvargadhipa system is another system similar to this > > > employed by the Rishis for deriving predictions using *Varga > > lords* > > > (note the emphasis. NOT Vargas But Varga lords)] > > > > > > [The other multiples that we observe in some texts such as Rx30, > > > Rx60, Rx81, Rx108, Rx150 etc are mere logical extensions of the > > Basic > > > principle - created and supported by the Rishis with a purpose. We > > > cannot create RxM multiples for any number forgetting the basic > > > Dwadesa Varga (Rx1...Rx12) system and 7-fold method for deriving > > > Phala] > > > > > > Those who are interested in understanding the original 7- fold > > > prediction system used to derive predictions may note this. It is > > the > > > clear_cut/ logically_perfect method employed by the Rishis in > > > predicting with all Vargas including the Natal chart itself. [bTW: > > It > > > is not a mere intellectual/logical classification done by me, but > > a > > > system based on authentic references from Rishi Horas] > > > > > > How to derive Vargas? > > > --------------------- > > > Vargamsa = R x M (where R=Rasi/Planetary Longitude and M is the > > > Multiplier to be used) > > > > > > [Yes, if you want you can say that we are speaking about > > HARMONICS, as > > > scholars like Pradeep, Sanjay Prabhakaran, Surya Rao etc puts it] > > > > > > A detailed exposition of the sub principles involved in > > predicting > > > with Vargas will be given elaborately, once all controversies are > > over > > > and people settle down to learn the original authentic system > > (based > > > on classical references). A detailed discussion of this subject is > > not > > > encouraged now, as many other controversies support for D- Charts/ > > > Varga-Charts etc in Classics, is currently under discussion/ > > > controversy. > > > I sincerely hope that PVR will also note this since he is a > > sincere > > > seeker of the truth of astrology, and its fundamental methods. > > > > > > [bTW: Nakshatra (Austrians) is not considered here while > > describing > > > the 7-fold system of deriving prediction, since the prediction > > using > > > the Nakshatra Chakra is an independent and separate system, with > > its > > > own unique laws to follow. I suggest you to ask Sreenivas if > > anybody > > > wants to have an elaboration of the same, since he has dealt with > > the > > > subject in length in several of his previous messages] > > > > > > Think of it for a while. I restrict myself from the details/ > > > exposition of the principles and sub-principles involved > > (everything > > > well supported by the classics) for the time being. Of course we > > can > > > have a detailed discussion of the same later, if somebody is > > > interested. > > > You should remember that almost the whole of astrology falls into > > > these classification. Therefore there are thousands of slokas (if > > not > > > lakhs) to prove that this is the 'Basic Interpretation Method' > > used > > > (by Rishis and Acharyas) to derive Phala (prediction) in astrology > > > (here I am speaking about the whole of astrology, not just about > > > Vargas). This can be proved by considering just ANY authentic > text/ > > > classic of astrology, merging all controversies/contradictions > > into a > > > single whole, and revealing the truth involved. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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