Three Lingas of Subtle Body (Body parts and houses)

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Dear Pradeep,

 

> > > Linga and anus is in Scorpio(210- 240).*Mooladhara can lie at any point> >

> between 210 and 240*.How did shri Nrasimha place this is in Libra.

> > > Some''IMAGINARY'' Linga?!!!.Well forget 210 how can one fix this at 180> >

> degrees!!!

 

Mooladhara chakra is in the vicinity of the external genital (Sc), but it is not

IN it. Just as buttocks (Vi - kati) are in the vicinity of anus (Sc - guhya),

Mooladhara chakra in vasti (Li) is in the vicinity of genitals (Sc). If

something shown by Vi can be in the vicinity of something shown by Sc, then

something shown by Li can certainly be in the vicinity of something shown by

Sc. In order to be in the vicinity of things shown by Sc, Mooladhara chakra

does not have to be IN Sc.

 

Secondly, it is true that a linga called "Swayambhoo Linga" is placed at the

center of Mooladhara chakra. Some people are probably confused by this fact and

think that this linga must be the external genital and hence they think that

Mooladhara chakra is linked to genital.

 

However, I clearly stated my view in the past that this "Swayambhoo Linga" in

Mooladhara chakra has nothing to do with the external genital.

 

Please remember that Mooladhara chakra is not part of the gross physical body.

All the chakras and nadis exist in the subtle body (sookshma sareera) that is

separate from the gross body. Thus, "Swayambhoo Linga" that is at the centre of

Mooladhara chakra is NOT the physical linga (genital). It is a part of the

subtle body. You may very well call it an "imaginary linga" like you did.

 

The word linga means a mark or an emblem or a characteristic sign. It does not

just mean a genital. The genital is just ONE of one's characteristic

signs/marks. But there are others. Swayambhoo linga in Mooladhara chakra is a

characteristic mark/sign of one in the subtle body.

 

In fact, Mooladhara chakra is not the only chakra that is supposed to contain a

linga. A linga called "Bana linga" is supposed to be placed in Anahata chakra

and a linga called "Itara linga" is supposed to be placed in Ajna chakra. It

will be silly to suggest that these two lingas are also the external genital.

Obviously, all the three said lingas in the three chakras are some characteric

marks of one's self in the subtle body.

 

Kundalini is the energy of one's ego, which separates one from the supreme soul

(Brahman) and which can result in a merge back. These three lingas of the

subtle body are the three levels of self-identification that are found in

people. Swayambhoo linga in Mooladhara chakra is the self-identification found

in most normal people. Most people think of the apparent body, name etc to be

self and their ego identifies with that concept of self. That concept of self

is symbolized by the Swayambhoo linga. Kundalini coiling/embrancing that linga

means that our ego (i.e. sense of separate existence) embraces that concept of

self! As Kundalini wakes up and rises upto Anahata, one's self-identification

undergoes a transformation. One starts to shed the previous concept of

self-identification and starts to identify with the soul. One has atma darshana

and sees self as a soul. This concept of self is symbolized by Baana Linga. When

Kundalini rises upto Anahata, She has a union with Baana linga. In other words,

one's ego (i.e. sense of separate existence) embraces the concept of self that

involves soul.

 

As Kundalini rises further and reaches Ajna chakra, one's self-identification

undergoes further transformation. One's concept of self encompasses all the

souls in the universe. One starts to see all the individual souls as self. When

Kundalini reaches Ajna chakra, She has a union with Itara Linga, i.e. one's

sense of self (ego) embraces the concept of self that includes all beings of

the universe. This is still not moksha, as one has ego and a separate existence

from the Brahman (as various individual souls of the universe).

 

As Kundalini rises further and reaches Sahasrara, She has a union with Sadashiva

and She becomes one with Him. At that point, there is no ego. There is no sense

of separate existence. One does not feel that one is the apparent body. One

does not feel that one is the soul that has had many existences. One does not

even feel that one is all the souls of the universe. One does not feel that one

has a separate existence whatsoever. This is samadhi. If one permanently remains

in that state, THAT is moksha.

 

If one understands all the three lingas and their relationship with Kundalini,

one can appreciate the fact that the Swayambhoo Linga in Mooladhara chakra is

not associated with the external genital and is a conceptual characteristic

mark that identifies "self".

 

> > > Shri Vishnu i would sincerely like to know your opinion.> > >> > My own

position is that Mooladhaara is in Libra and Sri. Narasimha has also> > made

his position clear. I don't think there should be any confusion going> >

forward. I don't know if Narasimha, had explicitly said Moolaadhara is "at"> >

180 and not between 181-210. He needs to clarify his position. However, I> >

and Narasimha seem to agree that Moooladhaara is "in" Libra.> > Shri Narasimha

had infact said - it is at 180 degrees.You can check hi

> mails.But today he has spoken only about Lbira .Hope he will come to

> Scorpio.He has to.

 

You are right. I did say 180 deg specifically. However, when I think deeper, I

am afraid I didn't have solid reasons for picking up that specific longitude

and I may have jumped to conclusions.

 

All I can say confidently is that Libra contains Mooladhara chakra, Virgo

contains Swadhishthana chakra, Leo contains Manipoora chakra, Cancer contains

the Anahata chakra, Gemini contains the Visuddhi chakra, Taurus contains the

Ajna chakra and Aries contains the Sahasrara chakra of Kala Purusha. I am not

sure of the specific longitudes.

 

> Now when Linga and Guda falls in(210 -240) how do you agree to

> Mooladhara(which is between Linga and Guda) in Libra(180-210).Pls

> dont make me work hard regarding this point.Please.

 

Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. I reject the notion that

everything in between the height of anus and the height of genitals is in Sc as

those two are in Sc. That way, buttocks should be in Sc or Li based on their

height, but Parasara assigned them ("kati" includes buttocks and hips) to Vi.

The boundaries between signs in human anatomy are not horizontal planes. They

are more crooked planes. Please read the other mail I wrote to Mike.

 

The internal body parts like colon, uterus, prostate etc belong to the sac of

lower abdomen (vasti) that extends upto the genitals and anus. Mooladhara

chakra is in this sac and hence belongs in Li.

 

You guys said that Mooladharam of Kala Purusha is in Moola nakshatram. This

nakshatram extends from 240 deg 253.333 deg, i.e. completely in Sg. You were

talking of Sg as swasaana or yuddha bhoomi and what not. You have now come to

Sc. This is better.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> Dear Shri Vishnu> > See my replies.> > Pradeep> --- In

vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala <jvishnu@g...> wrote:> >> >

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Dear Sri. Pradeep,> > > > Namaste,> > > > > > >

> >> > >> > > >>>As Vi shows the hip/buttock area and Sc shows the genitals and

anus, Li> > > shows >>>whatever is in between.> > >> > > Libra shows whatever

that is in between Virgo and Scorpio - Not whatever> > > that is *''WITHIN''*

Scoprio.> > >> > > *Virgo(150 -180)degrees;Libra(180 -210);Scorpio(210 -240)> >

> *> > > Linga and anus is in Scorpio(210- 240).*Mooladhara can lie at any

point> > > between 210 and 240*.How did shri Nrasimha place this is in

Libra.Some''IMAGINARY'' Linga?!!!.Well forget 210 how can one fix this at 180>

> > degrees!!!> > >> > > Shri Vishnu i would sincerely like to know your

opinion.> > >> > My own position is that Mooladhaara is in Libra and Sri.

Narasimha has also> > made his position clear. I don't think there should be

any confusion going> > forward. I don't know if Narasimha, had explicitly said

Moolaadhara is "at"> > 180 and not between 181-210. He needs to clarify his

position. However, I> > and Narasimha seem to agree that Moooladhaara is "in"

Libra.> > Shri Narasimha had infact said - it is at 180 degrees.You can check

his mails.But today he has spoken only about Lbira .Hope he will come to

Scorpio.He has to.> Now when Linga and Guda falls in(210 -240) how do you

agree to Mooladhara(which is between Linga and Guda) in Libra(180-210).Pls dont

make me work hard regarding this point.Please.> > > > Now i request every

member to kindly go through this link and see how> > > mooladhara is bordering

thighs.> > >> > > http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/chakras-Shakta.htm> > >>

> > If you still don't beleive, please stand naked in front of a mirror,trace> >

> the path from anus to Linga.We can easily find that,the point where linga> > >

begins is above the plane of Guda.Now if you look at inner thighs,you can> > >

see that they are exactly conjuncting linga.So origin of thighs too are> > >

above the plane of Guda.We can beautifully place a slanted triangular area> > >

between the said places.What can be the logitude where thighs are joining> > >

Linga - It is the border between Vrischika and Dhanu - 240 degrees - Moola> > >

Nakshathra.This is exactly what shri Chandrahari is talking.> > >> > Again, you

are making a basic error. It has been clearly pointed out Coccyx> > is above

Guda. How can you demand to trace a path "from" anus and not> > "above" anus?

In the same vein, I ask you to take a string, place one end of> > the string

"above" Guda and run it around your hips. Make sure it "straight"> > enough,

and not "slanted"! BTW, I just collected a couple of x-ray films in> > JPG will

post them tomorrow. I hope I will be able to put across my point> > clearly!> >

> There is no basic error.The link that i had sent were from 18th century

paintings.They have ancient wisdom.> Now if you dont trust the painting - Pls

stand in front of the mirror and see.> No picture can convince each other.I

place full trust in you.Please do this test.> > 1)Linga is above Guda? - You

will find yes.> 2)Is inner thighs conjuncting origin of Linga? - You will find

Yes.> > Now if both are yes,what is the doubt left with.> > > warm regards,>

> Vishnu> > > > > > --> > Om Akhanda mandalaakaaram> > vyaptam yena charaa

charam> > tatpadam darsita yena> > tasmai sri gurave namaha