Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Dear Prabodh, Yes, Kundalini awakening happens when Kundalini is in Mooladhara chakra. Then Kundalini may take a few years to reach Anahata chakra (if She does at all), via Swadhishthana chakra and Manipoora chakra. Then Kundalini may take a few more years to reach Visuddhi chakra (if She does at all). And so on. My point is that all activities relating to Kundalini, such as awakening, rise from Mooladhara to Swadhishthana, rise to Anahata, rise from Anahata to Visuddhi, rise from Visuddhi to Ajna etc, ARE governed by the 8th house. Some may say that Kundalini being seen in the 8th house means that Mooladhara chakra is in the 8th house, as Kundalini is in the Mooladhara chakra in unawakened state. This implies that Kundalini's rise from Anahata chakra to Visuddhi chakra should be seen from another house (perhaps the house that shows Anahata chakra). I am taking an issue with that view and saying that Kundalini is always seen from the 8th house. Whether Kundalini just woke up in Mooladhara or whether Kundalini just moved from Anahata to Visuddhi, the activities of Kundalini ARE from the 8th house always. What Kundalini does at a given point of time may have to be figured out from the interactions between the 8th house and other houses relating to various chakras. > > Some people may confuse the > > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a Kundalini awakening > > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini rising. Thus, > > some data can be false data and it is tough to get authentic data. I > > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine Kundalini > > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty. > > If Kundalini is rising then there is no psudo > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the influence of > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then nobody can > help. If really Kundalini rose, one will know FOR SURE that it was Kundalini. There is no possibility of any confusion and unsureness. But, until one gets the actual experience, one can construe various premonitory signs as a Kundalini experience. They may not be pretentious and may be quite sincere, but it is easy to be confused. Anyway, my point is that it is tough to get birthdata of people with truly risen Kundalinis. I only have charts in single digits. Unfortunately, I have to keep all the data secretive. If you know any Yogis with genuine Kundalini experiences, please do share the birthdata and the dates/times of important experiences with me by private mail (pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net). That can help future researches. If someone wants their data to be secretive, I can honor that. I will use the data only in creating/verifying principles and will only share the principles with others and not the data (like I've been doing with regard to Kundalini experiences). May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > Dear Narshimha Namaste> > Actually I met few people who were kind enough to expain the process > of Kundalini rising. Not only that it was pretty clear after their > teachings that all the santa of Maharashrta(Maharashtra has a long > and good Santa parampara)right from Gyneshwar to ChokhaMela all have > given similar expirences about Kundalini rising. I know that there > is one school of understanding that says that Kundalini rising and > its expirence is a indiviual phenomenon and everybody may have > different opinion. But I know for sure that more-or-less everybody > will have similar expirences. I can say because of Santa Vadgmaya > that I have stuided. > > As far as psudo expirences of Apana Vayu & Prana Vayu flow, I think > it is not possible. If Kundalini is rising then there is no psudo > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the influence of > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then nobody can > help. > > I could not understand your last para. This is what I understood. > Plese correct if required.> > 1)Kundalini sleeps at the Muladhara in every person unactivated> 2)Kundalini shakti can move to other chakras because of spiritual > progress. This implies that when such movement happens it is not > treated as kundalini rising. Am I correct? So now we will have two > things;Kundalini Movement and Kundalini Rising. This as well means > that Kundalini rising may start from any chakra. I think this is not > correct and possible as well. When Kundalini will start rising it > will always start from Muladhara. You have to learn UdiyyanBandha > before you attempt this process. Possibly you may be aware of why > this Bandha is a must to start Kundalini awakening. Once this > Kundalini starts rising it will possibly take a year or two to reach > its destination. During that time only one will have expirences. If > the Kundalini does not reach to proper destination (which is very > common ) it may kill you and that is why one requires a real GURU to > guide through this awakening process. > > So in my humble view, Kundalini awakening begins at Muladhara > only.Secondly,Kundalini awakening expirences are related to 8th > house. So it is more logical to say that Muladhara is at 8th house. > > If it is applied to normal Purusha it should be appiled to Kala > Purush as well! So in KalaPurusha we should see Muladhara in 8th > house and hence in Scorpio. Ofcourse, this is my opinion and may be > wrong.> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote:> >> > Dear Prabodh,> > > > I appreciate your bringing up this point.> > > > In my humble view, Kundalini IS to be seen from the 8th house.> > > > Unfortunately, I have very few charts of people who had a > Kundalini awakening and Kundalini rise. Some people may confuse the > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a Kundalini awakening > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini rising. Thus, > some data can be false data and it is tough to get authentic data. I > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine Kundalini > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty. However, in the > few reliable charts I saw, the 8th house is prominent and the 8th > house related dasas were running at the time Kundalini woke up and > rose.> > > > Any genuine Kundalini experience is practically a temporary death. > No wonder the 8th house is important.> > > > However, please note that the 8th house showing Kundalini > experiences does not imply that the 8th house shows Mooladhara > chakra. Even though Kundalini in a normal person sleeps while > coiling the Swayambhoo Linga that is placed at the center of > Mooladhara chakra, Kundalini shakti can move to other chakras with > spiritual progress. Irrespective of where one's Kundalini is - at > Mooladhara chakra or at Anahata chakra or at Ajna chakra or at > another chakra - ALL experiences related to Kundalini ARE shown by > the 8th house in my view.> > > > How to see the interactions between the 8th house and other houses > to figure out when Kundalini rises to what chakra is an area open > for research.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha> > -------------------------------> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > -------------------------------> > > > > Dear Narshima Namaste> > > > > > I am not expert in this subject but jaut a random thought...> > > > > > you wrote:> > > > > > The 8th house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the genitals > and > > > anus.> > > > > > Guhya as well means mystery or secret. Kundalini shakti is a > > > mystery and is very secret for many people in the world. > Moroeover, > > > Kundalini Ugama Sthana is also known as Guhya Shtana.So why not > to > > > consider Kundalini sthana to be in 8th house? > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > P.S: Although, Guhya as well means anus or genitials, there are > many > > > sects where these body parts are considered as Guhya! > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > > > > Classics say Mooladhara is placed between Guda and Linga.> > > > > You are learned enough to understand the Sign/Limb mapping -> > > > > given by Parashara.But still you say '' For ME Mooladhara of> > > > > Kalapurusha is at 180 degrees''.> > > > > > > > The 5th house of Kala Purusha (Le) shows the stomach. The 9th > > > house of Kala Purusha (Sg) shows thighs.> > > > > > > > The 3 houses in between cover a small area and one has to > > > correctly understand what each of the 3 houses covers!> > > > > > > > The 6th house (Vi) covers the "kati" of Kala Purusha. Kati > means > > > hip/buttock area. The 7th house (Li) covers the "vasti". Vasti > means > > > the sac that contains the lower belly, colon, pelvis etc. The > 8th > > > house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the genitals and anus.> > > > > > > > Though the genitals and anus themselves are shown by Sc, the > areas > > > adjoining them and the internal organs associated with them and > the > > > pelvic region are shown by Li. As Vi shows the hip/buttock area > and > > > Sc shows the genitals and anus, Li shows whatever is in between. > > > That is where Mooladhara chakra belongs!> > > > > > > > Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. Nor is > in in > > > hips/buttocks. It is in between. It is 2 angulis above the anus. > > > Thus, it makes sense to place it in Libra.> > > > > > > > I have given my view on the placement of various chakras > > > previously:> > > > > > > > (1) Sahasrara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ar (1st house of the > > > natural zodiac, i.e. siras/head top). > > > > (2) Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ta (2nd house of the > natural > > > zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes). > > > > (3) Visuddhi chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ge (3rd house of the > > > natural zodiac, i.e. throat/upper chest). > > > > (4) Anahata chakra of Kalapurusha is in Cn (4th house of the > > > natural zodiac, i.e. heart). > > > > (5) Manipoora chakra of Kalapurusha is in Le (5th house of the > > > natural zodiac, i.e. stomach). > > > > (6) Swadhishthana chakra of Kalapurusha is in Vi (6th house of > the > > > natural zodiac, i.e. kati or hip/buttock area).> > > > (7) Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Li (7th house of > the > > > natural zodiac, i.e. vasti or the sac that contains lowerbelly, > > > colon and pelvic region).> > > > > > > > Kundalini travels in anti-zodiacal direction from Mooladhara > to > > > Sahasrara, likes nodes.> > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > > Narasimha> > > > ------------------------------> -> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > ------------------------------> -> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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