To Narasimhji, Body parts and houses

December 5, 2005

Respected Sir,

If members who are not scholars can also ask their doubts on this

issue, would you please permit me to ask some of my doubts related to

your mail? I sincerly hope you will clarify my doubts despite my low

level of knowledge in this matter. Pls spare a little time for my

doubts.

1. The 7 chakras in the astral body are not equidistant. Right? What

is the ratio between the spatial separation between the 7 chakras in

physical body and the degree wise separation between the points they

are located in Rasis? Are they proportional? I mean do they match?

Like, Suppose the SC-AjC(spatial separation)=p

AC-VC=q

VC-AnC=r

AnC-MC=s

MC-SwC=t

Sw-MoC=u

And the longitude of the each chakra in each Rasi be a,b,c,d,e and f

as per your placement in signs.

My doubt is :

Is p:q:r:s:t:u = a:b:c:d:e:f?

If you are mapping chakra positions in human body with zodiac signs

shouldn't these ratios be proportional?

If it matches, isn't there a possibility that the chakras may not

come exactly one in each sign contiguously starting from Aries?

For eg:

My doubt is how can the Sahasrara padma and Ajna chakra come in two

separate rasis?

Why can't sahasrara and ajna chakra come together in Aries? Could you

please state the reason why it is not possible for sahasrara and ajna

chakra to come together in aries? (or together in Taurus-which is

another doubt which I will explain soon.)

Reason for the doubt:

The nerve plexus corresponding to Sahasrara in physical body is said

to be the pineal gland. (There is ofcourse another reference that

Sahasrara is pituitary and ajna chakra is pineal. (If one assumes

ajna chakra is pineal, according to anatomy, the pineal gland is

above pituitary and it will mean that Sahsrara is below Ajna chakra!!

Acc to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petal_(chakra), and

http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/kun4.html#_VPID_45 which describes

Kundalini yoga by Sivananda, Pineal Gland corresponds to Sahasrara

and NOT Ajna chakra.).

Also acc. to net resources about Pineal gland: "It is located in the

geometric center of the brain. The Pineal Gland is about the size of

a pea, and is in the center of the brain in a tiny cave behind and

above the pituitary gland which lies a little behind the root of the

nose. Pineal gland is located directly behind the eyes, attached to

the third ventricle. "

Now, taking these info as reference, If one is mapping the chakras

with points in physical body, there isn't much spatial separation

between Sahasrara chakra and Ajna chakra. (I mean between Pineal and

Pituitary) Right? Hence my doubt why should Ajna chakra jump to

Taurus? Can you please state the reason why you placed so? If you

know the spatial separation between the two and its corresponding

separation in degrees, pls share. (if that is how you placed ajna

chakra in Taurus.)

To explain more precisely, you wrote "Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is

in Ta (2nd house of the natural zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes)."

If pineal gland is located above the pituitary which is at the root

of the nose, how can the Sahasrara whose corresponding nerve plexus

is pineal gland be in Aries? If forehead and eyes come in Taurus

sign (acc. to your mail), shouldn't the pineal gland --> Sahasrara

also come under Taurus?

2. Is the eye-brow part in Aries or Taurus? Where is the demarcation

with respect to physical body?

3. Doesn't forehead come in the seersha part / siras? Or is it that

siras means only the scalp? If forehead (the whole 3-D cross section

of forehead) does not belong to siras, how can sahasrara be in Aries?

Finally, I read controversial information as below:

"Although the more widespread opinion places the Sahasrara chakra at

the very top of the head, Goswami argues instead that this chakra

(and another one below it called the Guru chakra) is actually located

above the head, and the top-of-the-head position is taken instead by

another chakra called the Nirvana chakra, with one hundred petals.

Sri Aurobindo, although only referring to the standard seven chakras,

likewise locates the Sahasrara above the head."

If this is true, where in zodiac sign will be sahasrara?

I hope you will find time to clear my doubts.

With repsects,

Jyothi

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> > Classics say Mooladhara is placed between Guda and Linga.

> > You are learned enough to understand the Sign/Limb mapping -

> > given by Parashara.But still you say '' For ME Mooladhara of

> > Kalapurusha is at 180 degrees''.

>

> The 5th house of Kala Purusha (Le) shows the stomach. The 9th house

of Kala Purusha (Sg) shows thighs.

>

> The 3 houses in between cover a small area and one has to correctly

understand what each of the 3 houses covers!

>

> The 6th house (Vi) covers the "kati" of Kala Purusha. Kati means

hip/buttock area. The 7th house (Li) covers the "vasti". Vasti means

the sac that contains the lower belly, colon, pelvis etc. The 8th

house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the genitals and anus.

>

> Though the genitals and anus themselves are shown by Sc, the areas

adjoining them and the internal organs associated with them and the

pelvic region are shown by Li. As Vi shows the hip/buttock area and

Sc shows the genitals and anus, Li shows whatever is in between. That

is where Mooladhara chakra belongs!

>

> Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. Nor is in in

hips/buttocks. It is in between. It is 2 angulis above the anus.

Thus, it makes sense to place it in Libra.

>

> I have given my view on the placement of various chakras previously:

>

> (1) Sahasrara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ar (1st house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. siras/head top).

> (2) Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ta (2nd house of the natural

zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes).

> (3) Visuddhi chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ge (3rd house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. throat/upper chest).

> (4) Anahata chakra of Kalapurusha is in Cn (4th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. heart).

> (5) Manipoora chakra of Kalapurusha is in Le (5th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. stomach).

> (6) Swadhishthana chakra of Kalapurusha is in Vi (6th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. kati or hip/buttock area).

> (7) Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Li (7th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. vasti or the sac that contains lowerbelly, colon

and pelvic region).

>

> Kundalini travels in anti-zodiacal direction from Mooladhara to

Sahasrara, likes nodes.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

>

December 5, 2005

Respected Sir, (reposting as the first post didnt appear in the

group)

If members who are not scholars can also ask their doubts regarding

this matter, can I ask some doubts, please. I sincerely hope that you

will read the following doubts which I had on reading your mail, and

clarify it, if you have some time to spare.

1. The 7 chakras in the astral body are not equidistant. Right? Can

you please say what is the ratio between the spatial separation

between the 7 chakras in physical body and the degree wise separation

between the points they are located in Rasis? Are they proportional?

I mean do they match?

Like, Suppose the SC-AjC(spatial separation)=p (SC= sahasrara,

Ac=ajna etc..)

AC-VC=q

VC-AnC=r

AnC-MC=s

MC-SwC=t

Sw-MoC=u

And the longitude of the each chakra in each Rasi be a,b,c,d,e and f)

My doubt is : Is p:q:r:s:t:u = a:b:c:d:e:f?

If you are mapping chakra positions in human body with zodiac signs

shouldn't these ratios be proportional?

If it matches, isn't there a possibility that the chakras may not

come exactly one in each sign contiguously starting from Aries?

For eg:

My doubt is how can the Sahasrara padma and Ajna chakra come in two

separate rasis?

Why can't they(sahasrara and ajna chakra)come together in Aries?

Could you please state the reason why it is not possible for

sahasrara and ajna chakra to come together in aries? (or together in

Taurus-which is another doubt.)

Acc to references, The nerve plexus corresponding to Sahasrara in

physical body is said to be the pineal gland. (There is ofcourse

another reference that Sahasrara is pituitary and ajna chakra is

pineal. (But, if one assumes ajna chakra is pineal, according to

anatomy, the pineal gland is above pituitary and it will mean that

Sahsrara is below Ajna chakra!!)

Acc to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petal_(chakra), and

http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/kun4.html#_VPID_45 which describes

Kundalini yoga by Sivananda, Pineal Gland corresponds to Sahasrara

and NOT Ajna chakra.

Acc to net resources about Pineal gland: "It is located in the

geometric center of the brain. The Pineal Gland is about the size of

a pea, and is in the center of the brain in a tiny cave behind and

above the pituitary gland which lies a little behind the root of the

nose. Pineal gland is located directly behind the eyes, attached to

the third ventricle."

Now, taking these info as references, If one is mapping the chakras

with points in physical body, there isn't much spatial separation

between Sahasrara chakra and Ajna chakra. (I mean between Pineal and

Pituitary) Right? Hence my doubt why should Ajna chakra jump to

Taurus? Can you please state the reason why you placed so? If you

know the spatial separation between the two and its corresponding

separation in degrees, can you pls share? (If that is how you placed

ajna chakra in Taurus.)Also can you pls say in which star the

location is?

To explain more precisely, you wrote "Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is

in Ta (2nd house of the natural zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes)."

If pineal gland is located above the pituitary which is at the root

of the nose, how can the Sahasrara whose corresponding nerve plexus

is pineal gland be in Aries? If forehead and eyes come in Taurus

sign (acc. to your mail), shouldn't the pineal gland --> Sahasrara

also come under Taurus?

2. Is the eye-brow part in Aries or Taurus? Where is the demarcation

with respect to physical body?

3. Doesn't forehead come in the seersha part / siras? OR IS IT THAT

SIRAS MEANS ONLY THE SCALP? If forehead (the whole 3-D volume of

forehead) does not belong to siras, how can sahasrara be in Aries?

Finally, I read a controversial information as below:

"Although the more widespread opinion places the Sahasrara chakra at

the very top of the head, Goswami argues instead that this chakra

(and another one below it called the Guru chakra) is actually located

above the head, and the top-of-the-head position is taken instead by

another chakra called the Nirvana chakra, with one hundred petals.

Sri Aurobindo, although only referring to the standard seven chakras,

likewise locates the Sahasrara above the head."

Sir, I hope you will find time to clear my doubts.

With repsects,

Jyothi

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> > Classics say Mooladhara is placed between Guda and Linga.

> > You are learned enough to understand the Sign/Limb mapping -

> > given by Parashara.But still you say '' For ME Mooladhara of

> > Kalapurusha is at 180 degrees''.

>

> The 5th house of Kala Purusha (Le) shows the stomach. The 9th house

of Kala Purusha (Sg) shows thighs.

>

> The 3 houses in between cover a small area and one has to correctly

understand what each of the 3 houses covers!

>

> The 6th house (Vi) covers the "kati" of Kala Purusha. Kati means

hip/buttock area. The 7th house (Li) covers the "vasti". Vasti means

the sac that contains the lower belly, colon, pelvis etc. The 8th

house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the genitals and anus.

>

> Though the genitals and anus themselves are shown by Sc, the areas

adjoining them and the internal organs associated with them and the

pelvic region are shown by Li. As Vi shows the hip/buttock area and

Sc shows the genitals and anus, Li shows whatever is in between. That

is where Mooladhara chakra belongs!

>

> Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. Nor is in in

hips/buttocks. It is in between. It is 2 angulis above the anus.

Thus, it makes sense to place it in Libra.

>

> I have given my view on the placement of various chakras previously:

>

> (1) Sahasrara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ar (1st house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. siras/head top).

> (2) Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ta (2nd house of the natural

zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes).

> (3) Visuddhi chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ge (3rd house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. throat/upper chest).

> (4) Anahata chakra of Kalapurusha is in Cn (4th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. heart).

> (5) Manipoora chakra of Kalapurusha is in Le (5th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. stomach).

> (6) Swadhishthana chakra of Kalapurusha is in Vi (6th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. kati or hip/buttock area).

> (7) Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Li (7th house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. vasti or the sac that contains lowerbelly, colon

and pelvic region).

>

> Kundalini travels in anti-zodiacal direction from Mooladhara to

Sahasrara, likes nodes.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

>

December 5, 2005

Dear Jyoti

These are brilliant pieces of thought.Chakras are not childs play to arrange

them from aries on to libra.Even when sidhas are finding it difficult,we are

able to place them with absolute ease.

Let us make our foundations corerct- Mooladhara and then build on. This

disturbing tendency of explaining all in one shot ,without proper foundations

will never take us anywhere.when we ask for paramana there is only silence.But

we are confident while assigning positions.Same is the case with Vargas .We dont

know what an amsha is and we map them to imaginary zodiacs.But we are pretty

confident and can make theories on Varga chakras.I am sorry to say this in a

sarcastic tone.

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:

>

> Respected Sir, (reposting as the first post didnt appear in the

> group)

>

> If members who are not scholars can also ask their doubts regarding

> this matter, can I ask some doubts, please. I sincerely hope that you

> will read the following doubts which I had on reading your mail, and

> clarify it, if you have some time to spare.

>

> 1. The 7 chakras in the astral body are not equidistant. Right? Can

> you please say what is the ratio between the spatial separation

> between the 7 chakras in physical body and the degree wise separation

> between the points they are located in Rasis? Are they proportional?

> I mean do they match?

>

> Like, Suppose the SC-AjC(spatial separation)=p (SC= sahasrara,

> Ac=ajna etc..)

> AC-VC=q

> VC-AnC=r

> AnC-MC=s

> MC-SwC=t

> Sw-MoC=u

>

> And the longitude of the each chakra in each Rasi be a,b,c,d,e and f)

>

> My doubt is : Is p:q:r:s:t:u = a:b:c:d:e:f?

> If you are mapping chakra positions in human body with zodiac signs

> shouldn't these ratios be proportional?

>

> If it matches, isn't there a possibility that the chakras may not

> come exactly one in each sign contiguously starting from Aries?

>

> For eg:

> My doubt is how can the Sahasrara padma and Ajna chakra come in two

> separate rasis?

> Why can't they(sahasrara and ajna chakra)come together in Aries?

> Could you please state the reason why it is not possible for

> sahasrara and ajna chakra to come together in aries? (or together in

> Taurus-which is another doubt.)

>

> Acc to references, The nerve plexus corresponding to Sahasrara in

> physical body is said to be the pineal gland. (There is ofcourse

> another reference that Sahasrara is pituitary and ajna chakra is

> pineal. (But, if one assumes ajna chakra is pineal, according to

> anatomy, the pineal gland is above pituitary and it will mean that

> Sahsrara is below Ajna chakra!!)

> Acc to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petal_(chakra), and

> http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/kun4.html#_VPID_45 which describes

> Kundalini yoga by Sivananda, Pineal Gland corresponds to Sahasrara

> and NOT Ajna chakra.

> Acc to net resources about Pineal gland: "It is located in the

> geometric center of the brain. The Pineal Gland is about the size of

> a pea, and is in the center of the brain in a tiny cave behind and

> above the pituitary gland which lies a little behind the root of the

> nose. Pineal gland is located directly behind the eyes, attached to

> the third ventricle."

>

> Now, taking these info as references, If one is mapping the chakras

> with points in physical body, there isn't much spatial separation

> between Sahasrara chakra and Ajna chakra. (I mean between Pineal and

> Pituitary) Right? Hence my doubt why should Ajna chakra jump to

> Taurus? Can you please state the reason why you placed so? If you

> know the spatial separation between the two and its corresponding

> separation in degrees, can you pls share? (If that is how you placed

> ajna chakra in Taurus.)Also can you pls say in which star the

> location is?

>

> To explain more precisely, you wrote "Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is

> in Ta (2nd house of the natural zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes)."

> If pineal gland is located above the pituitary which is at the root

> of the nose, how can the Sahasrara whose corresponding nerve plexus

> is pineal gland be in Aries? If forehead and eyes come in Taurus

> sign (acc. to your mail), shouldn't the pineal gland --> Sahasrara

> also come under Taurus?

>

> 2. Is the eye-brow part in Aries or Taurus? Where is the demarcation

> with respect to physical body?

>

> 3. Doesn't forehead come in the seersha part / siras? OR IS IT THAT

> SIRAS MEANS ONLY THE SCALP? If forehead (the whole 3-D volume of

> forehead) does not belong to siras, how can sahasrara be in Aries?

>

> Finally, I read a controversial information as below:

> "Although the more widespread opinion places the Sahasrara chakra at

> the very top of the head, Goswami argues instead that this chakra

> (and another one below it called the Guru chakra) is actually located

> above the head, and the top-of-the-head position is taken instead by

> another chakra called the Nirvana chakra, with one hundred petals.

> Sri Aurobindo, although only referring to the standard seven chakras,

> likewise locates the Sahasrara above the head."

>

> Sir, I hope you will find time to clear my doubts.

>

> With repsects,

> Jyothi

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> pvr@c... wrote:

> >

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > > Classics say Mooladhara is placed between Guda and Linga.

> > > You are learned enough to understand the Sign/Limb mapping -

> > > given by Parashara.But still you say '' For ME Mooladhara of

> > > Kalapurusha is at 180 degrees''.

> >

> > The 5th house of Kala Purusha (Le) shows the stomach. The 9th house

> of Kala Purusha (Sg) shows thighs.

> >

> > The 3 houses in between cover a small area and one has to correctly

> understand what each of the 3 houses covers!

> >

> > The 6th house (Vi) covers the "kati" of Kala Purusha. Kati means

> hip/buttock area. The 7th house (Li) covers the "vasti". Vasti means

> the sac that contains the lower belly, colon, pelvis etc. The 8th

> house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the genitals and anus.

> >

> > Though the genitals and anus themselves are shown by Sc, the areas

> adjoining them and the internal organs associated with them and the

> pelvic region are shown by Li. As Vi shows the hip/buttock area and

> Sc shows the genitals and anus, Li shows whatever is in between. That

> is where Mooladhara chakra belongs!

> >

> > Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. Nor is in in

> hips/buttocks. It is in between. It is 2 angulis above the anus.

> Thus, it makes sense to place it in Libra.

> >

> > I have given my view on the placement of various chakras previously:

> >

> > (1) Sahasrara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ar (1st house of the

> natural zodiac, i.e. siras/head top).

> > (2) Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ta (2nd house of the natural

> zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes).

> > (3) Visuddhi chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ge (3rd house of the

> natural zodiac, i.e. throat/upper chest).

> > (4) Anahata chakra of Kalapurusha is in Cn (4th house of the

> natural zodiac, i.e. heart).

> > (5) Manipoora chakra of Kalapurusha is in Le (5th house of the

> natural zodiac, i.e. stomach).

> > (6) Swadhishthana chakra of Kalapurusha is in Vi (6th house of the

> natural zodiac, i.e. kati or hip/buttock area).

> > (7) Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Li (7th house of the

> natural zodiac, i.e. vasti or the sac that contains lowerbelly, colon

> and pelvic region).

> >

> > Kundalini travels in anti-zodiacal direction from Mooladhara to

> Sahasrara, likes nodes.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------------

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------------

> >

>

December 5, 2005

Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for your response. In fact my doubts are genuine

and not at all intended to question or test anybody. I am genuinely

interested to know how the chakras are mapped as Narasimhji said.

(Even if not Narasimhji, whoever places, to all of them I have the

same doubts to ask). But I feel so sad when I dont get any reply to

my doubts. I feel that scholars respond only to scholars and others

are destined to be satisfied with their doubts unresolved. Anyways, I

am looking forward to my doubts getting cleared by anybody who knows

the answer.

(BTW, I think Narasimhji hasn't mentioned that chakras are placed

equidistant in signs. When I read sir's mail, that was the first

thing that struck my mind. Whoever reads will feel that they are

equidistant. But when I thought again, I felt it need not be so just

becuase they are in contiguous signs. Like, one can be 20degrees and

next chakra can be in 5 degree in the next sign etc. But the problem

is we cannot stretch the degrees of chakras to fit exactly into the

contiguos signs. To know whether the placement Narasimhji mentioned

is correct, I think one need to know the spatial separation between

the chakras and their corresponding relation in degrees.)

Hope somebody will help me. This has been nagging me ever since I

read Narasimhji's mail.

Regards,

Jyothi.

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

>

> Dear Jyoti

>

> These are brilliant pieces of thought.Chakras are not childs play

to arrange them from aries on to libra.Even when sidhas are finding

it difficult,we are able to place them with absolute ease.

>

> Let us make our foundations corerct- Mooladhara and then build on.

This disturbing tendency of explaining all in one shot ,without

proper foundations will never take us anywhere.when we ask for

paramana there is only silence.But we are confident while assigning

positions.Same is the case with Vargas .We dont know what an amsha is

and we map them to imaginary zodiacs.But we are pretty confident and

can make theories on Varga chakras.I am sorry to say this in a

sarcastic tone.

>

> Pradeep

> vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sir, (reposting as the first post didnt appear in the

> > group)

> >

> > If members who are not scholars can also ask their doubts

regarding

> > this matter, can I ask some doubts, please. I sincerely hope that

you

> > will read the following doubts which I had on reading your mail,

and

> > clarify it, if you have some time to spare.

> >

> > 1. The 7 chakras in the astral body are not equidistant. Right?

Can

> > you please say what is the ratio between the spatial separation

> > between the 7 chakras in physical body and the degree wise

separation

> > between the points they are located in Rasis? Are they

proportional?

> > I mean do they match?

> >

> > Like, Suppose the SC-AjC(spatial separation)=p (SC= sahasrara,

> > Ac=ajna etc..)

> > AC-VC=q

> > VC-AnC=r

> > AnC-MC=s

> > MC-SwC=t

> > Sw-MoC=u

> >

> > And the longitude of the each chakra in each Rasi be a,b,c,d,e

and f)

> >

> > My doubt is : Is p:q:r:s:t:u = a:b:c:d:e:f?

> > If you are mapping chakra positions in human body with zodiac

signs

> > shouldn't these ratios be proportional?

> >

> > If it matches, isn't there a possibility that the chakras may not

> > come exactly one in each sign contiguously starting from Aries?

> >

> > For eg:

> > My doubt is how can the Sahasrara padma and Ajna chakra come in

two

> > separate rasis?

> > Why can't they(sahasrara and ajna chakra)come together in Aries?

> > Could you please state the reason why it is not possible for

> > sahasrara and ajna chakra to come together in aries? (or together

in

> > Taurus-which is another doubt.)

> >

> > Acc to references, The nerve plexus corresponding to Sahasrara in

> > physical body is said to be the pineal gland. (There is ofcourse

> > another reference that Sahasrara is pituitary and ajna chakra is

> > pineal. (But, if one assumes ajna chakra is pineal, according to

> > anatomy, the pineal gland is above pituitary and it will mean

that

> > Sahsrara is below Ajna chakra!!)

> > Acc to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petal_(chakra), and

> > http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/kun4.html#_VPID_45 which describes

> > Kundalini yoga by Sivananda, Pineal Gland corresponds to

Sahasrara

> > and NOT Ajna chakra.

> > Acc to net resources about Pineal gland: "It is located in the

> > geometric center of the brain. The Pineal Gland is about the size

of

> > a pea, and is in the center of the brain in a tiny cave behind

and

> > above the pituitary gland which lies a little behind the root of

the

> > nose. Pineal gland is located directly behind the eyes, attached

to

> > the third ventricle."

> >

> > Now, taking these info as references, If one is mapping the

chakras

> > with points in physical body, there isn't much spatial separation

> > between Sahasrara chakra and Ajna chakra. (I mean between Pineal

and

> > Pituitary) Right? Hence my doubt why should Ajna chakra jump to

> > Taurus? Can you please state the reason why you placed so? If you

> > know the spatial separation between the two and its corresponding

> > separation in degrees, can you pls share? (If that is how you

placed

> > ajna chakra in Taurus.)Also can you pls say in which star the

> > location is?

> >

> > To explain more precisely, you wrote "Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha

is

> > in Ta (2nd house of the natural zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes)."

> > If pineal gland is located above the pituitary which is at the

root

> > of the nose, how can the Sahasrara whose corresponding nerve

plexus

> > is pineal gland be in Aries? If forehead and eyes come in Taurus

> > sign (acc. to your mail), shouldn't the pineal gland -->

Sahasrara

> > also come under Taurus?

> >

> > 2. Is the eye-brow part in Aries or Taurus? Where is the

demarcation

> > with respect to physical body?

> >

> > 3. Doesn't forehead come in the seersha part / siras? OR IS IT

THAT

> > SIRAS MEANS ONLY THE SCALP? If forehead (the whole 3-D volume of

> > forehead) does not belong to siras, how can sahasrara be in

Aries?

> >

> > Finally, I read a controversial information as below:

> > "Although the more widespread opinion places the Sahasrara chakra

at

> > the very top of the head, Goswami argues instead that this chakra

> > (and another one below it called the Guru chakra) is actually

located

> > above the head, and the top-of-the-head position is taken instead

by

> > another chakra called the Nirvana chakra, with one hundred

petals.

> > Sri Aurobindo, although only referring to the standard seven

chakras,

> > likewise locates the Sahasrara above the head."

> >

> > Sir, I hope you will find time to clear my doubts.

> >

> > With repsects,

> > Jyothi

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > pvr@c... wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste friends,

> > >

> > > > Classics say Mooladhara is placed between Guda and Linga.

> > > > You are learned enough to understand the Sign/Limb mapping -

> > > > given by Parashara.But still you say '' For ME Mooladhara of

> > > > Kalapurusha is at 180 degrees''.

> > >

> > > The 5th house of Kala Purusha (Le) shows the stomach. The 9th

house

> > of Kala Purusha (Sg) shows thighs.

> > >

> > > The 3 houses in between cover a small area and one has to

correctly

> > understand what each of the 3 houses covers!

> > >

> > > The 6th house (Vi) covers the "kati" of Kala Purusha. Kati

means

> > hip/buttock area. The 7th house (Li) covers the "vasti". Vasti

means

> > the sac that contains the lower belly, colon, pelvis etc. The 8th

> > house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the genitals and anus.

> > >

> > > Though the genitals and anus themselves are shown by Sc, the

areas

> > adjoining them and the internal organs associated with them and

the

> > pelvic region are shown by Li. As Vi shows the hip/buttock area

and

> > Sc shows the genitals and anus, Li shows whatever is in between.

That

> > is where Mooladhara chakra belongs!

> > >

> > > Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. Nor is in

in

> > hips/buttocks. It is in between. It is 2 angulis above the anus.

> > Thus, it makes sense to place it in Libra.

> > >

> > > I have given my view on the placement of various chakras

previously:

> > >

> > > (1) Sahasrara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ar (1st house of the

> > natural zodiac, i.e. siras/head top).

> > > (2) Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ta (2nd house of the

natural

> > zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes).

> > > (3) Visuddhi chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ge (3rd house of the

> > natural zodiac, i.e. throat/upper chest).

> > > (4) Anahata chakra of Kalapurusha is in Cn (4th house of the

> > natural zodiac, i.e. heart).

> > > (5) Manipoora chakra of Kalapurusha is in Le (5th house of the

> > natural zodiac, i.e. stomach).

> > > (6) Swadhishthana chakra of Kalapurusha is in Vi (6th house of

the

> > natural zodiac, i.e. kati or hip/buttock area).

> > > (7) Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Li (7th house of the

> > natural zodiac, i.e. vasti or the sac that contains lowerbelly,

colon

> > and pelvic region).

> > >

> > > Kundalini travels in anti-zodiacal direction from Mooladhara to

> > Sahasrara, likes nodes.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

> > > -------------------------------

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > -------------------------------

> > >

> >

>

December 5, 2005

Dear Pradeep and Jyothi,

Talking about chakras being equi-distant, of course they are not. But I fail to

see why that is an issue in mapping chakras. After all, each sign does not

represent uniformly 1/12th of Kalapurusha's body! Kalapurusha's body was

divided into twelve UNEQUAL parts and mapped to the twelve signs. Some signs

represent longer body parts of Kalapurusha and some represent shorter body

parts. Thus, if I place the 7 chakras in 7 continuous signs, it does not imply

that they are equi-distant!

> Let us make our foundations corerct- Mooladhara and then build on.

> This disturbing tendency of explaining all in one shot ,without proper

> foundations will never take us anywhere.

Mapping some chakras to signs may be controversial, but mapping several chakras is straight-forward.

For example, Visuddhi chakra is in throat. I wonder if anyone would have trouble

in placing Kalapurusha's Visuddhi chakra in Gemini. Anahata chakra is near

heart. I wonder if anyone would have trouble in placing Kalapurusha's Anahata

chakra in Cancer. I wonder if anyone would have trouble in placing

Kalapurusha's Manipoora chakra in Leo. I wonder if anyone would have trouble in

placing Kalapurusha's Swadhishthana chakra in Virgo.

As you guys talked about Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha being in Moola

nakshatram, I was hoping that you would have some idea of where to place other

chakras. Unfortunately, it seems like you don't have any idea and you don't

even appreciate if someone humbly shares HIS idea.

If one ignores 6 chakras and talks about only one chakra, one can easily make

mistakes and jump to wrong conclusions. When one tries to come up with a

COHERRENT understanding involving all the seven chakras and tries the balance

the understanding of seven items, one has a better chance of realizing those

mistakes and balancing various criteria. That is how *I* look at it.

> when we ask for paramana there is only silence.

Talking about "pramana", I have shared my basis. Mooladhara chakra is in the sac

in the lower abdomen that borders rectum and genitals and contains several

internal organs related to the functionality of rectum and genitals. This sac

is called vasti and allotted to Libra by Parasara. What Parasara called guhya

and allotted to Sc contains just the anus and genitals and no surrounding

internal parts. You can disagree with my reading of exactly what is included in

vasti (Li) and what in guhya (Sc), but it is unfair to keep asserting in every

mail you write that "when we ask for paramana there is only silence" (or

something to that effect). There was no silence and I DID speak, but you

remained unconvinced. You have the right to remain unconvinced, but it is

unfair to say that "there is only silence".

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

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> Dear Jyoti> > These are brilliant pieces of thought.Chakras are not childs

play to arrange them from aries on to libra.Even when sidhas are finding it

difficult,we are able to place them with absolute ease.> > Let us make our

foundations corerct- Mooladhara and then build on. This disturbing tendency of

explaining all in one shot ,without proper foundations will never take us

anywhere.when we ask for paramana there is only silence.But we are confident

while assigning positions.Same is the case with Vargas .We dont know what an

amsha is and we map them to imaginary zodiacs.But we are pretty confident and

can make theories on Varga chakras.I am sorry to say this in a sarcastic tone.>

> Pradeep> vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> >> > Respected Sir, (reposting as the first

post didnt appear in the > > group) > > > > If members who are not scholars can

also ask their doubts regarding > > this matter, can I ask some doubts, please.

I sincerely hope that you > > will read the following doubts which I had on

reading your mail, and > > clarify it, if you have some time to spare. > > > >

1. The 7 chakras in the astral body are not equidistant. Right? Can > > you

please say what is the ratio between the spatial separation > > between the 7

chakras in physical body and the degree wise separation > > between the points

they are located in Rasis? Are they proportional? > > I mean do they match?> >

> > Like, Suppose the SC-AjC(spatial separation)=p (SC= sahasrara, > > Ac=ajna

etc..)> > AC-VC=q> > VC-AnC=r> > AnC-MC=s> > MC-SwC=t> > Sw-MoC=u> > > > And

the longitude of the each chakra in each Rasi be a,b,c,d,e and f)> > > > My

doubt is : Is p:q:r:s:t:u = a:b:c:d:e:f? > > If you are mapping chakra

positions in human body with zodiac signs > > shouldn't these ratios be

proportional?> > > > If it matches, isn't there a possibility that the chakras

may not > > come exactly one in each sign contiguously starting from Aries? > >

> > For eg:> > My doubt is how can the Sahasrara padma and Ajna chakra come in

two > > separate rasis?> > Why can't they(sahasrara and ajna chakra)come

together in Aries? > > Could you please state the reason why it is not possible

for > > sahasrara and ajna chakra to come together in aries? (or together in > >

Taurus-which is another doubt.) > > > > Acc to references, The nerve plexus

corresponding to Sahasrara in > > physical body is said to be the pineal gland.

(There is ofcourse > > another reference that Sahasrara is pituitary and ajna

chakra is > > pineal. (But, if one assumes ajna chakra is pineal, according to

> > anatomy, the pineal gland is above pituitary and it will mean that > >

Sahsrara is below Ajna chakra!!) > > Acc to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petal_(chakra), and > >

http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/kun4.html#_VPID_45 which describes > > Kundalini

yoga by Sivananda, Pineal Gland corresponds to Sahasrara > > and NOT Ajna

chakra.> > Acc to net resources about Pineal gland: "It is located in the > >

geometric center of the brain. The Pineal Gland is about the size of > > a pea,

and is in the center of the brain in a tiny cave behind and > > above the

pituitary gland which lies a little behind the root of the > > nose. Pineal

gland is located directly behind the eyes, attached to > > the third

ventricle."> > > > Now, taking these info as references, If one is mapping the

chakras > > with points in physical body, there isn't much spatial separation >

> between Sahasrara chakra and Ajna chakra. (I mean between Pineal and > >

Pituitary) Right? Hence my doubt why should Ajna chakra jump to > > Taurus? Can

you please state the reason why you placed so? If you > > know the spatial

separation between the two and its corresponding > > separation in degrees, can

you pls share? (If that is how you placed > > ajna chakra in Taurus.)Also can

you pls say in which star the > > location is?> > > > To explain more

precisely, you wrote "Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is > > in Ta (2nd house of the

natural zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes)."> > If pineal gland is located above

the pituitary which is at the root > > of the nose, how can the Sahasrara whose

corresponding nerve plexus > > is pineal gland be in Aries? If forehead and eyes

come in Taurus > > sign (acc. to your mail), shouldn't the pineal gland -->

Sahasrara > > also come under Taurus? > > > > 2. Is the eye-brow part in Aries

or Taurus? Where is the demarcation > > with respect to physical body? > > > >

3. Doesn't forehead come in the seersha part / siras? OR IS IT THAT > > SIRAS

MEANS ONLY THE SCALP? If forehead (the whole 3-D volume of > > forehead) does

not belong to siras, how can sahasrara be in Aries? > > > > Finally, I read a

controversial information as below:> > "Although the more widespread opinion

places the Sahasrara chakra at > > the very top of the head, Goswami argues

instead that this chakra > > (and another one below it called the Guru chakra)

is actually located > > above the head, and the top-of-the-head position is

taken instead by > > another chakra called the Nirvana chakra, with one hundred

petals. > > Sri Aurobindo, although only referring to the standard seven

chakras, > > likewise locates the Sahasrara above the head."> > > > Sir, I hope

you will find time to clear my doubts. > > > > With repsects,> > Jyothi> > > > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > >

pvr@c... wrote:> > >> > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > > Classics say Mooladhara

is placed between Guda and Linga.> > > > You are learned enough to understand

the Sign/Limb mapping -> > > > given by Parashara.But still you say '' For ME

Mooladhara of> > > > Kalapurusha is at 180 degrees''.> > > > > > The 5th house

of Kala Purusha (Le) shows the stomach. The 9th house > > of Kala Purusha (Sg)

shows thighs.> > > > > > The 3 houses in between cover a small area and one has

to correctly > > understand what each of the 3 houses covers!> > > > > > The 6th

house (Vi) covers the "kati" of Kala Purusha. Kati means > > hip/buttock area.

The 7th house (Li) covers the "vasti". Vasti means > > the sac that contains

the lower belly, colon, pelvis etc. The 8th > > house (Sc) covers the "guhya".

Guhya means the genitals and anus.> > > > > > Though the genitals and anus

themselves are shown by Sc, the areas > > adjoining them and the internal

organs associated with them and the > > pelvic region are shown by Li. As Vi

shows the hip/buttock area and > > Sc shows the genitals and anus, Li shows

whatever is in between. That > > is where Mooladhara chakra belongs!> > > > > >

Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. Nor is in in > >

hips/buttocks. It is in between. It is 2 angulis above the anus. > > Thus, it

makes sense to place it in Libra.> > > > > > I have given my view on the

placement of various chakras previously:> > > > > > (1) Sahasrara chakra of

Kalapurusha is in Ar (1st house of the > > natural zodiac, i.e. siras/head

top). > > > (2) Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ta (2nd house of the natural >

> zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes). > > > (3) Visuddhi chakra of Kalapurusha is

in Ge (3rd house of the > > natural zodiac, i.e. throat/upper chest). > > > (4)

Anahata chakra of Kalapurusha is in Cn (4th house of the > > natural zodiac,

i.e. heart). > > > (5) Manipoora chakra of Kalapurusha is in Le (5th house of

the > > natural zodiac, i.e. stomach). > > > (6) Swadhishthana chakra of

Kalapurusha is in Vi (6th house of the > > natural zodiac, i.e. kati or

hip/buttock area).> > > (7) Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Li (7th

house of the > > natural zodiac, i.e. vasti or the sac that contains

lowerbelly, colon > > and pelvic region).> > > > > > Kundalini travels in

anti-zodiacal direction from Mooladhara to > > Sahasrara, likes nodes.> > > > >

> May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha> > >

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December 5, 2005

Respected Sir,

I knew you didnt mean that chakras are equidistant. (I had

mentioned about that to Pradeep in my reply before your this reply. I

wonder why the messages I post get lagged soo much to appear in the

group which leads to misunderstanding!!). Your thoughts and knowledge

sharing is much appreciated and nobody belittles it. Please dont

misunderstand.

Though I have myself asked some doubts related to chakra placements

in zodiac signs, now I can't help thinking why should there be all

these chakra-zodiac sign mess?

Is it compulsory that one should map the chakras with zodiac signs

even if such a thing does not exist in fact?

Mapping of divisional charts and going into other minute details of

astrology, one can understand that they help to make accurate

predictions thereby helping people to get more accurate information

of their future and how to be prepared for that. But regarding

chakras, I personally feel that there is no USE in mapping the

chakras to signs. Are we inventing new things or discovering already

existing? Chakra mapping to zodiac signs belong to which category?

Why should we invent such things if there weren't such mapping

initially? Or was it there already? Shouldn't we try to find out that

in the first place before trying to prove WHICH chakra is WHERE?

Even if we assume that it as an invention or discovery, how TRUE it

will be and WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF DOING SO? The discussions will

have some benefit like one will try to learn more of chakras and

kundalini awakening and there by these discussions may prove as a

catalyst to spiritual progress, for the sincerely interested ones.

Otherwise (keeping apart the benefits of discussions) what is the

benefit?

The ultimate aim of human being being Self Realization (siva – sakti

union or whatever it is), that can be achieved by any person who is

sincerely interested in his spiritual progress. Is there any need to

map the chakras to signs for that?

I feel one is going away from ones true aim by `consumerizing' even

the spiritual knowledge!! The sole aim of why the sages imparted such

knowledge to the generation from their experience was to make one

aware of the purpose of life, make them aware of the dangers and the

benefits of awakening the chakras. I hope I am right. Or did they

intend any astrological significance? I really don't understand the

RELEVANCE of mapping chakras to zodiac signs and how they are going

to help a person in his spiritual growth. If the issue has NEITHER

any astrological benefit NOR any spiritual benefit, why should there

be any issue over this?

If the scholars can discuss the subject without making it an issue,

and prove whether such a mapping really exists or not, by sharing

their knowledge without any bias, it would be very much soothing to

members like me, who seek to learn from them.

(These are just independent thoughts, where as my doubts regarding

placement of chakras still exists, if one assumes such a placement ;-

)).Even if we take the whole 6 chakras, instead of a single chakra,

the longitudinal image of the chakras on the spinal cord, doesnt seem

to me to map to the six zodiac signs fitting exactly to the contiguos

signs. There is no trouble in placing any chakra anywhere, but the

question is is it REALLY so?)

Thanks a lot for taking your time.

With respects,

Jyothi.

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep and Jyothi,

>

> Talking about chakras being equi-distant, of course they are not.

But I fail to see why that is an issue in mapping chakras. After all,

each sign does not represent uniformly 1/12th of Kalapurusha's body!

Kalapurusha's body was divided into twelve UNEQUAL parts and mapped

to the twelve signs. Some signs represent longer body parts of

Kalapurusha and some represent shorter body parts. Thus, if I place

the 7 chakras in 7 continuous signs, it does not imply that they are

equi-distant!

>

> > Let us make our foundations corerct- Mooladhara and then build on.

> > This disturbing tendency of explaining all in one shot ,without

proper

> > foundations will never take us anywhere.

>

> Mapping some chakras to signs may be controversial, but mapping

several chakras is straight-forward.

>

> For example, Visuddhi chakra is in throat. I wonder if anyone would

have trouble in placing Kalapurusha's Visuddhi chakra in Gemini.

Anahata chakra is near heart. I wonder if anyone would have trouble

in placing Kalapurusha's Anahata chakra in Cancer. I wonder if anyone

would have trouble in placing Kalapurusha's Manipoora chakra in Leo.

I wonder if anyone would have trouble in placing Kalapurusha's

Swadhishthana chakra in Virgo.

>

> As you guys talked about Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha being in

Moola nakshatram, I was hoping that you would have some idea of where

to place other chakras. Unfortunately, it seems like you don't have

any idea and you don't even appreciate if someone humbly shares HIS

idea.

>

> If one ignores 6 chakras and talks about only one chakra, one can

easily make mistakes and jump to wrong conclusions. When one tries to

come up with a COHERRENT understanding involving all the seven

chakras and tries the balance the understanding of seven items, one

has a better chance of realizing those mistakes and balancing various

criteria. That is how *I* look at it.

>

> > when we ask for paramana there is only silence.

>

> Talking about "pramana", I have shared my basis. Mooladhara chakra

is in the sac in the lower abdomen that borders rectum and genitals

and contains several internal organs related to the functionality of

rectum and genitals. This sac is called vasti and allotted to Libra

by Parasara. What Parasara called guhya and allotted to Sc contains

just the anus and genitals and no surrounding internal parts. You can

disagree with my reading of exactly what is included in vasti (Li)

and what in guhya (Sc), but it is unfair to keep asserting in every

mail you write that "when we ask for paramana there is only silence"

(or something to that effect). There was no silence and I DID speak,

but you remained unconvinced. You have the right to remain

unconvinced, but it is unfair to say that "there is only silence".

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

>

> > Dear Jyoti

> >

> > These are brilliant pieces of thought.Chakras are not childs play

to arrange them from aries on to libra.Even when sidhas are finding

it difficult,we are able to place them with absolute ease.

> >

> > Let us make our foundations corerct- Mooladhara and then build

on. This disturbing tendency of explaining all in one shot ,without

proper foundations will never take us anywhere.when we ask for

paramana there is only silence.But we are confident while assigning

positions.Same is the case with Vargas .We dont know what an amsha is

and we map them to imaginary zodiacs.But we are pretty confident and

can make theories on Varga chakras.I am sorry to say this in a

sarcastic tone.

> >

> > Pradeep

> > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Sir, (reposting as the first post didnt appear in the

> > > group)

> > >

> > > If members who are not scholars can also ask their doubts

regarding

> > > this matter, can I ask some doubts, please. I sincerely hope

that you

> > > will read the following doubts which I had on reading your

mail, and

> > > clarify it, if you have some time to spare.

> > >

> > > 1. The 7 chakras in the astral body are not equidistant. Right?

Can

> > > you please say what is the ratio between the spatial separation

> > > between the 7 chakras in physical body and the degree wise

separation

> > > between the points they are located in Rasis? Are they

proportional?

> > > I mean do they match?

> > >

> > > Like, Suppose the SC-AjC(spatial separation)=p (SC= sahasrara,

> > > Ac=ajna etc..)

> > > AC-VC=q

> > > VC-AnC=r

> > > AnC-MC=s

> > > MC-SwC=t

> > > Sw-MoC=u

> > >

> > > And the longitude of the each chakra in each Rasi be a,b,c,d,e

and f)

> > >

> > > My doubt is : Is p:q:r:s:t:u = a:b:c:d:e:f?

> > > If you are mapping chakra positions in human body with zodiac

signs

> > > shouldn't these ratios be proportional?

> > >

> > > If it matches, isn't there a possibility that the chakras may

not

> > > come exactly one in each sign contiguously starting from Aries?

> > >

> > > For eg:

> > > My doubt is how can the Sahasrara padma and Ajna chakra come in

two

> > > separate rasis?

> > > Why can't they(sahasrara and ajna chakra)come together in

Aries?

> > > Could you please state the reason why it is not possible for

> > > sahasrara and ajna chakra to come together in aries? (or

together in

> > > Taurus-which is another doubt.)

> > >

> > > Acc to references, The nerve plexus corresponding to Sahasrara

in

> > > physical body is said to be the pineal gland. (There is

ofcourse

> > > another reference that Sahasrara is pituitary and ajna chakra

is

> > > pineal. (But, if one assumes ajna chakra is pineal, according

to

> > > anatomy, the pineal gland is above pituitary and it will mean

that

> > > Sahsrara is below Ajna chakra!!)

> > > Acc to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petal_(chakra), and

> > > http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/kun4.html#_VPID_45 which

describes

> > > Kundalini yoga by Sivananda, Pineal Gland corresponds to

Sahasrara

> > > and NOT Ajna chakra.

> > > Acc to net resources about Pineal gland: "It is located in the

> > > geometric center of the brain. The Pineal Gland is about the

size of

> > > a pea, and is in the center of the brain in a tiny cave behind

and

> > > above the pituitary gland which lies a little behind the root

of the

> > > nose. Pineal gland is located directly behind the eyes,

attached to

> > > the third ventricle."

> > >

> > > Now, taking these info as references, If one is mapping the

chakras

> > > with points in physical body, there isn't much spatial

separation

> > > between Sahasrara chakra and Ajna chakra. (I mean between

Pineal and

> > > Pituitary) Right? Hence my doubt why should Ajna chakra jump to

> > > Taurus? Can you please state the reason why you placed so? If

you

> > > know the spatial separation between the two and its

corresponding

> > > separation in degrees, can you pls share? (If that is how you

placed

> > > ajna chakra in Taurus.)Also can you pls say in which star the

> > > location is?

> > >

> > > To explain more precisely, you wrote "Ajna chakra of

Kalapurusha is

> > > in Ta (2nd house of the natural zodiac, i.e.

face/forehead/eyes)."

> > > If pineal gland is located above the pituitary which is at the

root

> > > of the nose, how can the Sahasrara whose corresponding nerve

plexus

> > > is pineal gland be in Aries? If forehead and eyes come in

Taurus

> > > sign (acc. to your mail), shouldn't the pineal gland -->

Sahasrara

> > > also come under Taurus?

> > >

> > > 2. Is the eye-brow part in Aries or Taurus? Where is the

demarcation

> > > with respect to physical body?

> > >

> > > 3. Doesn't forehead come in the seersha part / siras? OR IS IT

THAT

> > > SIRAS MEANS ONLY THE SCALP? If forehead (the whole 3-D volume

of

> > > forehead) does not belong to siras, how can sahasrara be in

Aries?

> > >

> > > Finally, I read a controversial information as below:

> > > "Although the more widespread opinion places the Sahasrara

chakra at

> > > the very top of the head, Goswami argues instead that this

chakra

> > > (and another one below it called the Guru chakra) is actually

located

> > > above the head, and the top-of-the-head position is taken

instead by

> > > another chakra called the Nirvana chakra, with one hundred

petals.

> > > Sri Aurobindo, although only referring to the standard seven

chakras,

> > > likewise locates the Sahasrara above the head."

> > >

> > > Sir, I hope you will find time to clear my doubts.

> > >

> > > With repsects,

> > > Jyothi

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > > pvr@c... wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > > Classics say Mooladhara is placed between Guda and Linga.

> > > > > You are learned enough to understand the Sign/Limb mapping -

> > > > > given by Parashara.But still you say '' For ME Mooladhara of

> > > > > Kalapurusha is at 180 degrees''.

> > > >

> > > > The 5th house of Kala Purusha (Le) shows the stomach. The 9th

house

> > > of Kala Purusha (Sg) shows thighs.

> > > >

> > > > The 3 houses in between cover a small area and one has to

correctly

> > > understand what each of the 3 houses covers!

> > > >

> > > > The 6th house (Vi) covers the "kati" of Kala Purusha. Kati

means

> > > hip/buttock area. The 7th house (Li) covers the "vasti". Vasti

means

> > > the sac that contains the lower belly, colon, pelvis etc. The

8th

> > > house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the genitals and

anus.

> > > >

> > > > Though the genitals and anus themselves are shown by Sc, the

areas

> > > adjoining them and the internal organs associated with them and

the

> > > pelvic region are shown by Li. As Vi shows the hip/buttock area

and

> > > Sc shows the genitals and anus, Li shows whatever is in

between. That

> > > is where Mooladhara chakra belongs!

> > > >

> > > > Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. Nor is

in in

> > > hips/buttocks. It is in between. It is 2 angulis above the

anus.

> > > Thus, it makes sense to place it in Libra.

> > > >

> > > > I have given my view on the placement of various chakras

previously:

> > > >

> > > > (1) Sahasrara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ar (1st house of

the

> > > natural zodiac, i.e. siras/head top).

> > > > (2) Ajna chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ta (2nd house of the

natural

> > > zodiac, i.e. face/forehead/eyes).

> > > > (3) Visuddhi chakra of Kalapurusha is in Ge (3rd house of the

> > > natural zodiac, i.e. throat/upper chest).

> > > > (4) Anahata chakra of Kalapurusha is in Cn (4th house of the

> > > natural zodiac, i.e. heart).

> > > > (5) Manipoora chakra of Kalapurusha is in Le (5th house of

the

> > > natural zodiac, i.e. stomach).

> > > > (6) Swadhishthana chakra of Kalapurusha is in Vi (6th house

of the

> > > natural zodiac, i.e. kati or hip/buttock area).

> > > > (7) Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha is in Li (7th house of

the

> > > natural zodiac, i.e. vasti or the sac that contains lowerbelly,

colon

> > > and pelvic region).

> > > >

> > > > Kundalini travels in anti-zodiacal direction from Mooladhara

to

> > > Sahasrara, likes nodes.

> > > >

> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > Narasimha

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December 5, 2005

Respected Sir,

"As you guys talked about Mooladhara chakra of Kalapurusha being

in Moola nakshatram, I was hoping that you would have some idea of

where to place other chakras. Unfortunately, it seems like you don't

have any idea and you don't even appreciate if someone humbly shares

HIS idea."

I am not adept in human physiology. My doubts were purely based

on your mail. I took your mail, your positioning of chakras in signs

as the reference. The information which I mentioned in the mail, I

gathered from various books and net.