To Pradeep, Narasimhji and all: Why cant Shri Chandra Hari be correct?

[Guest guest]

Dear Pradeep and all,

 

While thinking over this Mooladhara- sign issue, I just came

to notice something that may aid the discussion. I dont know the

astronomical aspects and the physionomy of a human being in depth so

as to discuss like you all. But just let me share my thinking if you

all dont mind. Remember I am just presenting a thought that occurred

to me and I am not saying it need be correct. Please correct if I am

wrong.

 

I think except Narasimhji and very few others, all agree that

Scorpio is the occult sign and Mooladhara is in Scorpio. Now the

problem is whether Mooladhara is in Moola or not. Just becuase Moola

comes under Sagittarius (the reason why nobody is accepting it)why

should it be wrong?

 

I think Moola star is related to Scorpio and hence Shri Chandra

Hari's claim that Mooladhara is in Scorpio can be correct. The

constellation in which Moola star is present is called Lambda Scorpii

and that is because Moola comes under the constellation of Scorpio.

And Moola or Lambda Scorpi is considered as the star at the end of

the tail of Scorpion. From this anybody can understand that Moola is

under scorpio constellation. There are a lot of astronomical evidence

for this.

 

So why should there be a controversy over this. I feel if every

body agrees to Scorpio as occult sign and where mooladhara can be

placed, then Moola is the apt star for Mooladhara based on the

astronomical data.

 

Here are some information on it:

 

"Lamda Scorpi ( Moola ): 240 00 253 20.

Lambda Scorpii is the tip of the scorpion's stinger.

 

The stinger is formed by theta and several fainter stars, ending with

lambda and the fainter upsilon.

 

>From zeta move east one field, then you'll see the asterism, as the

stars curl up to form the stinger. At the end of the scorpionfs tail

lies Lambda Scorpii, called Shaula from the Arabic meaning ethe

stingf.

Related: Stars

 

bright star in the constellation Scorpius ; Bayer designation Lambda

Scorpii; 1992 position R.A. 17 h 33.7 m , Dec. -37‹06Œ. A bluish-

white star of spectral class B1 V, its apparent magnitude of 1.62

makes it one of the 25 brightest stars in the sky. Shaula is a

spectroscopic binary star . Its distance from the earth is about 300

light-years. Its name is from the Arabic, meaning graised part of the

scorpion's tail.h

Related: Stars

"

 

Hope you will comment on this.

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha ji

>

> >>You are right. I did say 180 deg specifically. However, when I

think deeper, I >>>am afraid I didn't have solid reasons for picking

up that specific longitude >>>and I may have jumped to conclusions.

>

> This is a very good sign.But not for long - why? see the next point.

>

> >>All I can say confidently is that Libra contains Mooladhara

chakra.

>

> Confidently.How.What is the Pramana.

>

>

> >>I reject the notion that everything in between the height of anus

and the >>height of genitals is in Sc as those two are in Sc.

>

> This is true.Thats why i told shri Vishnu - ''Here lies the trick -

When we consider above Guda alone we will never think of thigh

vicinity.If we check the Linga side we can see that thighs are

conjuncting Linga and this part is well above anal plane''.Guda and

Linga cannot be placed in a plane lying horizontal to the vertical

axis in human body.Hence i had asked him to do the test self and

observe how a slanted tirnagular area can connect the said areas.

>

> >>If one were to pictorially represent signs/houses in human

anatomy, one >>would need a 3-dimensional model of a human being and

>>the borders >>between signs would not be horizontal lines/planes,

but more complicated >>shapes.

>

> My view is no different.See the above point.

> Thus first you have to visualize a plane(slanted) as i have

said,and see how mooladhara can hang upside down on to the thigh

domain.For this we have to stand in front of a miror,without a biased

mind.

>

> >>>Please remember that Mooladhara chakra is not part of the gross

physical >>body. All the chakras and nadis exist in the subtle >>body

(sookshma >>sareera) that is separate from the gross body.Now

Sookshma >>shareera/different Lingas etc can be debated as >>>another

point.

>

> OK.How did you then place all the chakras in signs from Aries to

Libra(which are representations of Gross Body).Are Anus and Linga

part of Gross Body.Do classical defintions locate position of

Mooladhara Chakra between these two gross entities.Thus we will

discuss the sookshma part later.Let us discuss the gross location

first.(In a similar fashion, as you have fixed all the chakras in

various Signs)

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > > > > Linga and anus is in Scorpio(210- 240).*Mooladhara can lie

at any point

> > > > > between 210 and 240*.How did shri Nrasimha place this is in

Libra.

> > > > > Some''IMAGINARY'' Linga?!!!.Well forget 210 how can one fix

this at 180

> > > > > degrees!!!

> >

> > Mooladhara chakra is in the vicinity of the external genital

(Sc), but it is not IN it. Just as buttocks (Vi - kati) are in the

vicinity of anus (Sc - guhya), Mooladhara chakra in vasti (Li) is in

the vicinity of genitals (Sc). If something shown by Vi can be in the

vicinity of something shown by Sc, then something shown by Li can

certainly be in the vicinity of something shown by Sc. In order to be

in the vicinity of things shown by Sc, Mooladhara chakra does not

have to be IN Sc.

> >

> > Secondly, it is true that a linga called "Swayambhoo Linga" is

placed at the center of Mooladhara chakra. Some people are probably

confused by this fact and think that this linga must be the external

genital and hence they think that Mooladhara chakra is linked to

genital.

> >

> > However, I clearly stated my view in the past that

this "Swayambhoo Linga" in Mooladhara chakra has nothing to do with

the external genital.

> >

> > Please remember that Mooladhara chakra is not part of the gross

physical body. All the chakras and nadis exist in the subtle body

(sookshma sareera) that is separate from the gross body.

Thus, "Swayambhoo Linga" that is at the centre of Mooladhara chakra

is NOT the physical linga (genital). It is a part of the subtle body.

You may very well call it an "imaginary linga" like you did.

> >

> > The word linga means a mark or an emblem or a characteristic

sign. It does not just mean a genital. The genital is just ONE of

one's characteristic signs/marks. But there are others. Swayambhoo

linga in Mooladhara chakra is a characteristic mark/sign of one in

the subtle body.

> >

> > In fact, Mooladhara chakra is not the only chakra that is

supposed to contain a linga. A linga called "Bana linga" is supposed

to be placed in Anahata chakra and a linga called "Itara linga" is

supposed to be placed in Ajna chakra. It will be silly to suggest

that these two lingas are also the external genital. Obviously, all

the three said lingas in the three chakras are some characteric marks

of one's self in the subtle body.

> >

> > Kundalini is the energy of one's ego, which separates one from

the supreme soul (Brahman) and which can result in a merge back.

These three lingas of the subtle body are the three levels of self-

identification that are found in people. Swayambhoo linga in

Mooladhara chakra is the self-identification found in most normal

people. Most people think of the apparent body, name etc to be self

and their ego identifies with that concept of self. That concept of

self is symbolized by the Swayambhoo linga. Kundalini

coiling/embrancing that linga means that our ego (i.e. sense of

separate existence) embraces that concept of self! As Kundalini wakes

up and rises upto Anahata, one's self-identification undergoes a

transformation. One starts to shed the previous concept of self-

identification and starts to identify with the soul. One has atma

darshana and sees self as a soul. This concept of self is symbolized

by Baana Linga. When Kundalini rises upto Anahata, She has a union

with Baana linga. In other words, one's ego (i.e. sense of separate

existence) embraces the concept of self that involves soul.

> >

> > As Kundalini rises further and reaches Ajna chakra, one's self-

identification undergoes further transformation. One's concept of

self encompasses all the souls in the universe. One starts to see all

the individual souls as self. When Kundalini reaches Ajna chakra, She

has a union with Itara Linga, i.e. one's sense of self (ego) embraces

the concept of self that includes all beings of the universe. This is

still not moksha, as one has ego and a separate existence from the

Brahman (as various individual souls of the universe).

> >

> > As Kundalini rises further and reaches Sahasrara, She has a union

with Sadashiva and She becomes one with Him. At that point, there is

no ego. There is no sense of separate existence. One does not feel

that one is the apparent body. One does not feel that one is the soul

that has had many existences. One does not even feel that one is all

the souls of the universe. One does not feel that one has a separate

existence whatsoever. This is samadhi. If one permanently remains in

that state, THAT is moksha.

> >

> > If one understands all the three lingas and their relationship

with Kundalini, one can appreciate the fact that the Swayambhoo Linga

in Mooladhara chakra is not associated with the external genital and

is a conceptual characteristic mark that identifies "self".

> >

> > > > > Shri Vishnu i would sincerely like to know your opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > My own position is that Mooladhaara is in Libra and Sri.

Narasimha has also

> > > > made his position clear. I don't think there should be any

confusion going

> > > > forward. I don't know if Narasimha, had explicitly said

Moolaadhara is "at"

> > > > 180 and not between 181-210. He needs to clarify his

position. However, I

> > > > and Narasimha seem to agree that Moooladhaara is "in" Libra.

> > >

> > > Shri Narasimha had infact said - it is at 180 degrees.You can

check hi

> > > mails.But today he has spoken only about Lbira .Hope he will

come to

> > > Scorpio.He has to.

> >

> > You are right. I did say 180 deg specifically. However, when I

think deeper, I am afraid I didn't have solid reasons for picking up

that specific longitude and I may have jumped to conclusions.

> >

> > All I can say confidently is that Libra contains Mooladhara

chakra, Virgo contains Swadhishthana chakra, Leo contains Manipoora

chakra, Cancer contains the Anahata chakra, Gemini contains the

Visuddhi chakra, Taurus contains the Ajna chakra and Aries contains

the Sahasrara chakra of Kala Purusha. I am not sure of the specific

longitudes.

> >

> > > Now when Linga and Guda falls in(210 -240) how do you agree to

> > > Mooladhara(which is between Linga and Guda) in Libra(180-

210).Pls

> > > dont make me work hard regarding this point.Please.

> >

> > Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. I reject

the notion that everything in between the height of anus and the

height of genitals is in Sc as those two are in Sc. That way,

buttocks should be in Sc or Li based on their height, but Parasara

assigned them ("kati" includes buttocks and hips) to Vi. The

boundaries between signs in human anatomy are not horizontal planes.

They are more crooked planes. Please read the other mail I wrote to

Mike.

> >

> > The internal body parts like colon, uterus, prostate etc belong

to the sac of lower abdomen (vasti) that extends upto the genitals

and anus. Mooladhara chakra is in this sac and hence belongs in Li.

> >

> > You guys said that Mooladharam of Kala Purusha is in Moola

nakshatram. This nakshatram extends from 240 deg 253.333 deg, i.e.

completely in Sg. You were talking of Sg as swasaana or yuddha bhoomi

and what not. You have now come to Sc. This is better.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------------

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> > -------------------------------

> >

> > > Dear Shri Vishnu

> > >

> > > See my replies.

> > >

> > > Pradeep

> > > vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala

jvishnu@g... wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri. Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>As Vi shows the hip/buttock area and Sc shows the

genitals and anus, Li

> > > > > shows >>>whatever is in between.

> > > > >

> > > > > Libra shows whatever that is in between Virgo and Scorpio -

Not whatever

> > > > > that is *''WITHIN''* Scoprio.

> > > > >

> > > > > *Virgo(150 -180)degrees;Libra(180 -210);Scorpio(210 -240)

> > > > > *

> > > > > Linga and anus is in Scorpio(210- 240).*Mooladhara can lie

at any point

> > > > > between 210 and 240*.How did shri Nrasimha place this is in

Libra.Some''IMAGINARY'' Linga?!!!.Well forget 210 how can one fix

this at 180

> > > > > degrees!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Vishnu i would sincerely like to know your opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > My own position is that Mooladhaara is in Libra and Sri.

Narasimha has also

> > > > made his position clear. I don't think there should be any

confusion going

> > > > forward. I don't know if Narasimha, had explicitly said

Moolaadhara is "at"

> > > > 180 and not between 181-210. He needs to clarify his

position. However, I

> > > > and Narasimha seem to agree that Moooladhaara is "in" Libra.

> > >

> > > Shri Narasimha had infact said - it is at 180 degrees.You can

check his mails.But today he has spoken only about Lbira .Hope he

will come to Scorpio.He has to.

> > > Now when Linga and Guda falls in(210 -240) how do you agree to

Mooladhara(which is between Linga and Guda) in Libra(180-210).Pls

dont make me work hard regarding this point.Please.

> > > >

> > > > Now i request every member to kindly go through this link

and see how

> > > > > mooladhara is bordering thighs.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/chakras-Shakta.htm

> > > > >

> > > > > If you still don't beleive, please stand naked in front of

a mirror,trace

> > > > > the path from anus to Linga.We can easily find that,the

point where linga

> > > > > begins is above the plane of Guda.Now if you look at inner

thighs,you can

> > > > > see that they are exactly conjuncting linga.So origin of

thighs too are

> > > > > above the plane of Guda.We can beautifully place a slanted

triangular area

> > > > > between the said places.What can be the logitude where

thighs are joining

> > > > > Linga - It is the border between Vrischika and Dhanu - 240

degrees - Moola

> > > > > Nakshathra.This is exactly what shri Chandrahari is talking.

> > > > >

> > > > Again, you are making a basic error. It has been clearly

pointed out Coccyx

> > > > is above Guda. How can you demand to trace a path "from" anus

and not

> > > > "above" anus? In the same vein, I ask you to take a string,

place one end of

> > > > the string "above" Guda and run it around your hips. Make

sure it "straight"

> > > > enough, and not "slanted"! BTW, I just collected a couple of

x-ray films in

> > > > JPG will post them tomorrow. I hope I will be able to put

across my point

> > > > clearly!

> > > >

> > > There is no basic error.The link that i had sent were from 18th

century paintings.They have ancient wisdom.

> > > Now if you dont trust the painting - Pls stand in front of the

mirror and see.

> > > No picture can convince each other.I place full trust in

you.Please do this test.

> > >

> > > 1)Linga is above Guda? - You will find yes.

> > > 2)Is inner thighs conjuncting origin of Linga? - You will find

Yes.

> > >

> > > Now if both are yes,what is the doubt left with.

> > >

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Om Akhanda mandalaakaaram

> > > > vyaptam yena charaa charam

> > > > tatpadam darsita yena

> > > > tasmai sri gurave namaha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jyothi

 

Verygood points again.Moola is bordering scorpio and sag.After Perenium,you have

thighs.Some scholars even say hip joints are also part of dhanu.Thus Mooladhara

and Moolam are not any assumptions rather kind revelations from the divine.

 

I will also write on the time-space and panchabhuta related understanding of

chakras,with real life examples.

 

Pradeep

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Pradeep and all,

>

> While thinking over this Mooladhara- sign issue, I just came

> to notice something that may aid the discussion. I dont know the

> astronomical aspects and the physionomy of a human being in depth so

> as to discuss like you all. But just let me share my thinking if you

> all dont mind. Remember I am just presenting a thought that occurred

> to me and I am not saying it need be correct. Please correct if I am

> wrong.

>

> I think except Narasimhji and very few others, all agree that

> Scorpio is the occult sign and Mooladhara is in Scorpio. Now the

> problem is whether Mooladhara is in Moola or not. Just becuase Moola

> comes under Sagittarius (the reason why nobody is accepting it)why

> should it be wrong?

>

> I think Moola star is related to Scorpio and hence Shri Chandra

> Hari's claim that Mooladhara is in Scorpio can be correct. The

> constellation in which Moola star is present is called Lambda Scorpii

> and that is because Moola comes under the constellation of Scorpio.

> And Moola or Lambda Scorpi is considered as the star at the end of

> the tail of Scorpion. From this anybody can understand that Moola is

> under scorpio constellation. There are a lot of astronomical evidence

> for this.

>

> So why should there be a controversy over this. I feel if every

> body agrees to Scorpio as occult sign and where mooladhara can be

> placed, then Moola is the apt star for Mooladhara based on the

> astronomical data.

>

> Here are some information on it:

>

> "Lamda Scorpi ( Moola ): 240 00 253 20.

> Lambda Scorpii is the tip of the scorpion's stinger.

>

> The stinger is formed by theta and several fainter stars, ending with

> lambda and the fainter upsilon.

>

> From zeta move east one field, then you'll see the asterism, as the

> stars curl up to form the stinger. At the end of the scorpionfs tail

> lies Lambda Scorpii, called Shaula from the Arabic meaning ethe

> stingf.

> Related: Stars

>

> bright star in the constellation Scorpius ; Bayer designation Lambda

> Scorpii; 1992 position R.A. 17 h 33.7 m , Dec. -37‹06Œ. A bluish-

> white star of spectral class B1 V, its apparent magnitude of 1.62

> makes it one of the 25 brightest stars in the sky. Shaula is a

> spectroscopic binary star . Its distance from the earth is about 300

> light-years. Its name is from the Arabic, meaning graised part of the

> scorpion's tail.h

> Related: Stars

> "

>

> Hope you will comment on this.

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

>

>

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Narasimha ji

> >

> > >>You are right. I did say 180 deg specifically. However, when I

> think deeper, I >>>am afraid I didn't have solid reasons for picking

> up that specific longitude >>>and I may have jumped to conclusions.

> >

> > This is a very good sign.But not for long - why? see the next point.

> >

> > >>All I can say confidently is that Libra contains Mooladhara

> chakra.

> >

> > Confidently.How.What is the Pramana.

> >

> >

> > >>I reject the notion that everything in between the height of anus

> and the >>height of genitals is in Sc as those two are in Sc.

> >

> > This is true.Thats why i told shri Vishnu - ''Here lies the trick -

> When we consider above Guda alone we will never think of thigh

> vicinity.If we check the Linga side we can see that thighs are

> conjuncting Linga and this part is well above anal plane''.Guda and

> Linga cannot be placed in a plane lying horizontal to the vertical

> axis in human body.Hence i had asked him to do the test self and

> observe how a slanted tirnagular area can connect the said areas.

> >

> > >>If one were to pictorially represent signs/houses in human

> anatomy, one >>would need a 3-dimensional model of a human being and

> >>the borders >>between signs would not be horizontal lines/planes,

> but more complicated >>shapes.

> >

> > My view is no different.See the above point.

> > Thus first you have to visualize a plane(slanted) as i have

> said,and see how mooladhara can hang upside down on to the thigh

> domain.For this we have to stand in front of a miror,without a biased

> mind.

> >

> > >>>Please remember that Mooladhara chakra is not part of the gross

> physical >>body. All the chakras and nadis exist in the subtle >>body

> (sookshma >>sareera) that is separate from the gross body.Now

> Sookshma >>shareera/different Lingas etc can be debated as >>>another

> point.

> >

> > OK.How did you then place all the chakras in signs from Aries to

> Libra(which are representations of Gross Body).Are Anus and Linga

> part of Gross Body.Do classical defintions locate position of

> Mooladhara Chakra between these two gross entities.Thus we will

> discuss the sookshma part later.Let us discuss the gross location

> first.(In a similar fashion, as you have fixed all the chakras in

> various Signs)

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> pvr@c... wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > > > > Linga and anus is in Scorpio(210- 240).*Mooladhara can lie

> at any point

> > > > > > between 210 and 240*.How did shri Nrasimha place this is in

> Libra.

> > > > > > Some''IMAGINARY'' Linga?!!!.Well forget 210 how can one fix

> this at 180

> > > > > > degrees!!!

> > >

> > > Mooladhara chakra is in the vicinity of the external genital

> (Sc), but it is not IN it. Just as buttocks (Vi - kati) are in the

> vicinity of anus (Sc - guhya), Mooladhara chakra in vasti (Li) is in

> the vicinity of genitals (Sc). If something shown by Vi can be in the

> vicinity of something shown by Sc, then something shown by Li can

> certainly be in the vicinity of something shown by Sc. In order to be

> in the vicinity of things shown by Sc, Mooladhara chakra does not

> have to be IN Sc.

> > >

> > > Secondly, it is true that a linga called "Swayambhoo Linga" is

> placed at the center of Mooladhara chakra. Some people are probably

> confused by this fact and think that this linga must be the external

> genital and hence they think that Mooladhara chakra is linked to

> genital.

> > >

> > > However, I clearly stated my view in the past that

> this "Swayambhoo Linga" in Mooladhara chakra has nothing to do with

> the external genital.

> > >

> > > Please remember that Mooladhara chakra is not part of the gross

> physical body. All the chakras and nadis exist in the subtle body

> (sookshma sareera) that is separate from the gross body.

> Thus, "Swayambhoo Linga" that is at the centre of Mooladhara chakra

> is NOT the physical linga (genital). It is a part of the subtle body.

> You may very well call it an "imaginary linga" like you did.

> > >

> > > The word linga means a mark or an emblem or a characteristic

> sign. It does not just mean a genital. The genital is just ONE of

> one's characteristic signs/marks. But there are others. Swayambhoo

> linga in Mooladhara chakra is a characteristic mark/sign of one in

> the subtle body.

> > >

> > > In fact, Mooladhara chakra is not the only chakra that is

> supposed to contain a linga. A linga called "Bana linga" is supposed

> to be placed in Anahata chakra and a linga called "Itara linga" is

> supposed to be placed in Ajna chakra. It will be silly to suggest

> that these two lingas are also the external genital. Obviously, all

> the three said lingas in the three chakras are some characteric marks

> of one's self in the subtle body.

> > >

> > > Kundalini is the energy of one's ego, which separates one from

> the supreme soul (Brahman) and which can result in a merge back.

> These three lingas of the subtle body are the three levels of self-

> identification that are found in people. Swayambhoo linga in

> Mooladhara chakra is the self-identification found in most normal

> people. Most people think of the apparent body, name etc to be self

> and their ego identifies with that concept of self. That concept of

> self is symbolized by the Swayambhoo linga. Kundalini

> coiling/embrancing that linga means that our ego (i.e. sense of

> separate existence) embraces that concept of self! As Kundalini wakes

> up and rises upto Anahata, one's self-identification undergoes a

> transformation. One starts to shed the previous concept of self-

> identification and starts to identify with the soul. One has atma

> darshana and sees self as a soul. This concept of self is symbolized

> by Baana Linga. When Kundalini rises upto Anahata, She has a union

> with Baana linga. In other words, one's ego (i.e. sense of separate

> existence) embraces the concept of self that involves soul.

> > >

> > > As Kundalini rises further and reaches Ajna chakra, one's self-

> identification undergoes further transformation. One's concept of

> self encompasses all the souls in the universe. One starts to see all

> the individual souls as self. When Kundalini reaches Ajna chakra, She

> has a union with Itara Linga, i.e. one's sense of self (ego) embraces

> the concept of self that includes all beings of the universe. This is

> still not moksha, as one has ego and a separate existence from the

> Brahman (as various individual souls of the universe).

> > >

> > > As Kundalini rises further and reaches Sahasrara, She has a union

> with Sadashiva and She becomes one with Him. At that point, there is

> no ego. There is no sense of separate existence. One does not feel

> that one is the apparent body. One does not feel that one is the soul

> that has had many existences. One does not even feel that one is all

> the souls of the universe. One does not feel that one has a separate

> existence whatsoever. This is samadhi. If one permanently remains in

> that state, THAT is moksha.

> > >

> > > If one understands all the three lingas and their relationship

> with Kundalini, one can appreciate the fact that the Swayambhoo Linga

> in Mooladhara chakra is not associated with the external genital and

> is a conceptual characteristic mark that identifies "self".

> > >

> > > > > > Shri Vishnu i would sincerely like to know your opinion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > My own position is that Mooladhaara is in Libra and Sri.

> Narasimha has also

> > > > > made his position clear. I don't think there should be any

> confusion going

> > > > > forward. I don't know if Narasimha, had explicitly said

> Moolaadhara is "at"

> > > > > 180 and not between 181-210. He needs to clarify his

> position. However, I

> > > > > and Narasimha seem to agree that Moooladhaara is "in" Libra.

> > > >

> > > > Shri Narasimha had infact said - it is at 180 degrees.You can

> check hi

> > > > mails.But today he has spoken only about Lbira .Hope he will

> come to

> > > > Scorpio.He has to.

> > >

> > > You are right. I did say 180 deg specifically. However, when I

> think deeper, I am afraid I didn't have solid reasons for picking up

> that specific longitude and I may have jumped to conclusions.

> > >

> > > All I can say confidently is that Libra contains Mooladhara

> chakra, Virgo contains Swadhishthana chakra, Leo contains Manipoora

> chakra, Cancer contains the Anahata chakra, Gemini contains the

> Visuddhi chakra, Taurus contains the Ajna chakra and Aries contains

> the Sahasrara chakra of Kala Purusha. I am not sure of the specific

> longitudes.

> > >

> > > > Now when Linga and Guda falls in(210 -240) how do you agree to

> > > > Mooladhara(which is between Linga and Guda) in Libra(180-

> 210).Pls

> > > > dont make me work hard regarding this point.Please.

> > >

> > > Mooladhara chakra is neither in anus nor in genitals. I reject

> the notion that everything in between the height of anus and the

> height of genitals is in Sc as those two are in Sc. That way,

> buttocks should be in Sc or Li based on their height, but Parasara

> assigned them ("kati" includes buttocks and hips) to Vi. The

> boundaries between signs in human anatomy are not horizontal planes.

> They are more crooked planes. Please read the other mail I wrote to

> Mike.

> > >

> > > The internal body parts like colon, uterus, prostate etc belong

> to the sac of lower abdomen (vasti) that extends upto the genitals

> and anus. Mooladhara chakra is in this sac and hence belongs in Li.

> > >

> > > You guys said that Mooladharam of Kala Purusha is in Moola

> nakshatram. This nakshatram extends from 240 deg 253.333 deg, i.e.

> completely in Sg. You were talking of Sg as swasaana or yuddha bhoomi

> and what not. You have now come to Sc. This is better.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

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> > >

> > > > Dear Shri Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > See my replies.

> > > >

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala

> jvishnu@g... wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sri. Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >>>As Vi shows the hip/buttock area and Sc shows the

> genitals and anus, Li

> > > > > > shows >>>whatever is in between.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Libra shows whatever that is in between Virgo and Scorpio -

> Not whatever

> > > > > > that is *''WITHIN''* Scoprio.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Virgo(150 -180)degrees;Libra(180 -210);Scorpio(210 -240)

> > > > > > *

> > > > > > Linga and anus is in Scorpio(210- 240).*Mooladhara can lie

> at any point

> > > > > > between 210 and 240*.How did shri Nrasimha place this is in

> Libra.Some''IMAGINARY'' Linga?!!!.Well forget 210 how can one fix

> this at 180

> > > > > > degrees!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shri Vishnu i would sincerely like to know your opinion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > My own position is that Mooladhaara is in Libra and Sri.

> Narasimha has also

> > > > > made his position clear. I don't think there should be any

> confusion going

> > > > > forward. I don't know if Narasimha, had explicitly said

> Moolaadhara is "at"

> > > > > 180 and not between 181-210. He needs to clarify his

> position. However, I

> > > > > and Narasimha seem to agree that Moooladhaara is "in" Libra.

> > > >

> > > > Shri Narasimha had infact said - it is at 180 degrees.You can

> check his mails.But today he has spoken only about Lbira .Hope he

> will come to Scorpio.He has to.

> > > > Now when Linga and Guda falls in(210 -240) how do you agree to

> Mooladhara(which is between Linga and Guda) in Libra(180-210).Pls

> dont make me work hard regarding this point.Please.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now i request every member to kindly go through this link

> and see how

> > > > > > mooladhara is bordering thighs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/chakras-Shakta.htm

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you still don't beleive, please stand naked in front of

> a mirror,trace

> > > > > > the path from anus to Linga.We can easily find that,the

> point where linga

> > > > > > begins is above the plane of Guda.Now if you look at inner

> thighs,you can

> > > > > > see that they are exactly conjuncting linga.So origin of

> thighs too are

> > > > > > above the plane of Guda.We can beautifully place a slanted

> triangular area

> > > > > > between the said places.What can be the logitude where

> thighs are joining

> > > > > > Linga - It is the border between Vrischika and Dhanu - 240

> degrees - Moola

> > > > > > Nakshathra.This is exactly what shri Chandrahari is talking.

> > > > > >

> > > > > Again, you are making a basic error. It has been clearly

> pointed out Coccyx

> > > > > is above Guda. How can you demand to trace a path "from" anus

> and not

> > > > > "above" anus? In the same vein, I ask you to take a string,

> place one end of

> > > > > the string "above" Guda and run it around your hips. Make

> sure it "straight"

> > > > > enough, and not "slanted"! BTW, I just collected a couple of

> x-ray films in

> > > > > JPG will post them tomorrow. I hope I will be able to put

> across my point

> > > > > clearly!

> > > > >

> > > > There is no basic error.The link that i had sent were from 18th

> century paintings.They have ancient wisdom.

> > > > Now if you dont trust the painting - Pls stand in front of the

> mirror and see.

> > > > No picture can convince each other.I place full trust in

> you.Please do this test.

> > > >

> > > > 1)Linga is above Guda? - You will find yes.

> > > > 2)Is inner thighs conjuncting origin of Linga? - You will find

> Yes.

> > > >

> > > > Now if both are yes,what is the doubt left with.

> > > >

> > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > Vishnu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Om Akhanda mandalaakaaram

> > > > > vyaptam yena charaa charam

> > > > > tatpadam darsita yena

> > > > > tasmai sri gurave namaha

> > >

> >

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