Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Dear Devika, Please, you need not take it in that way. Prabodhji was speaking with hatha yoga asanas in mind. Personally, his statement did not make me angry at all, instead I was surprised as I have been reading about this Kundalini and trying to understand ever since somebody wrote of the symptoms of KA in this group and never have I heard of such a prohibition on women. I should thank Narasimhji and other learned members who cleared my doubts regarding KA at that time, which inspired me to know more of it. May be the tough yogasanas are difficult. But otherwise, I feel it IS possible. What I believe is, if the person whether it is woman or man, if he/she is mentally, physically and spiritually PURE and ready, Kundalini will start getting activated spontaneously. The statement can disppoint women, on the first hearing, but have faith and we'll see for ourself. One knows oneself better. What is there to worry about it? If one feels Kunadalini Devi's movements within him/her body, nobody can deny it or say it is impossible. And one is not going to gain anything by letting others know that one has had the awakening. Its strictly ones personal experience. Just my view. Cool down and relax :-)) Its nothing so agitating news!! Regards, Jyothi vedic astrology, Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote: > > Dear Jyothi and others, > In reply to the question "Why awakening is impossible in women?", Prabodh wrote the following: > "When I said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess." > Does Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy his story? It is his own idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume", but instead he wrote: "Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no Kundalini activation" > It appeared that he had total confidence even though he knows nothing about the subject. What I would like to say here is that before making such a radical remark, think millions of times. What does he think happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they all men and not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh has definately touched my nerve with this. His statement can mislead and disappoint women. My urge to all women is to continue on your earnest search for yourself. Life is too short. And not only that, but human life is rare. Make the best out of this life time. You are not limited to anything. > > Regards, > Devika. > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > Dear Sir, > > It is understood that you didnt mean to belittle women. But > I was thinking whether it was just your personal opinion (which I > knew it is) or you had any scientific reason.I have read the > experiences narrated by several women about their KA in the net. If > my memory is correct, even in this group much earlier some body had > written about that. (That was how I started reading of it with more > curiosity). > > Since you said it so authentically, I thought you might have some > reliable reason. If it is the problem of only "allowance' and > not 'impossible' , then ok. Because personally I feel women are more > capable of awakening Kundalini more quickly and less dangerously than > men because of their inherent fine nature and strong mental > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz). > > Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to awaken > Kundalini? Just because you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > disciple does that mean women are not capable or permitted for KA? > Those Hatha Yogis may be people scared of losing their mental > control!! I dont find any other reason. If you know please share. If > my understanding is correct Kundalini can awaken due to various > reasons, without doing any yoga. Just intense faith in ones Goddess > and above all the intense and genuine QUEST to know the truth will, I > believe, lead one to such experiences. In this case it can be a > spontaneous process. I hope I am right. > > "If anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > interesting to read the expirences." > > Regarding this, I feel the experiences of KA with each person is > unique. It doesnt have anything to do with gender. Like, all men will > feel like this and all women will like that. Am I correct? > If the net resources can be believed there are lot of articles by > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had read about it but > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I will let you > know. > > Thanks for your clarification. > > REgards, > Jyothi. > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste > > > > When I said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not > > mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I > > met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not > > allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess. If > > anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > > interesting to read the expirences. Another point, I have not > > read /met any Hatyogi with a female diciple. If anybody knows such > > Hatyogi guru please let me know. I will be very much thankful. > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > Why do you say Kundalini activation is impossible in > > > women? Can you please explain the reason for that? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vishnu and TV Rao Namste > > > > > > > > Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no > > Kundalini > > > > activation. > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala > > > > <jvishnu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Rao garu, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini sakti is present in women too. > > > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > > > Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99 <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "r_tv_99" > > > > <tvrao_agd@s...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > respected gurus and members, > > > > > > > > > > > > in this thread only male anatomy is discussed with respect > to > > > > > > kundalini. as a laymen, please enlighten me whether the > > > kundalini > > > > > > shakti is present in females or not? or it is only present > > in > > > > males? > > > > > > > > > > > > tvr > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls find my reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala > > > > > > <jvishnu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri. Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pramana. > > > > > > > > > a)Two fingers above the anus and two fingers below > the > > > > linga, > > > > > > four fingers > > > > > > > > > in width, is a space like a bulbous root. > > > > > > > > > b)This area is known as perenium.Thanks to > Ms.SweeChan > > > > ji.You > > > > > > may kindly > > > > > > > > > check where Perenium,Scrotum and all are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perineum?? Perineum is the linga, guda, space inbetween > > and > > > > also > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > portions of buttocks! It is a wide area! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please follow this link to get a better understanding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://anatomy.uams.edu/anatomyhtml/marvinpelvis.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of getting lost in these technical terms, why > > don't > > > > we > > > > > > start with > > > > > > > > pictures? I am attaching an image. Black lines > represent > > my > > > > view > > > > > > and the red > > > > > > > > lines are yours. If wrong , please correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls send those pictures to my id vijayadas_pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now pls see the following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.continence-foundation.org.uk/in-depth/male- > > pelvic- > > > > > > organs.php > > > > > > > http://classes.kumc.edu/son/nrsg835/externalgenital.htm > > > > > > > http://classes.kumc.edu/son/nrsg835/pubococcmuscle.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The part below navel called vasti contains the bladder > and > > > > other > > > > > > pelvic organs and they are above the base of linga.They > fall > > > > under > > > > > > Thula.Linga is below these organas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Combining these three pictures one can reach a sound > > > > understanding > > > > > > on where Mooladhara is. > > > > > > > Front part will relate to perenium(area from scrotum > until > > > > anus) > > > > > > and and rear will fall below coccyx(Only this can > correspond > > to > > > > > > classical def:2 angulas below linga and 2 above Anus). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mooladhara is below linga as per classics - Now how do > you > > > > place > > > > > > this is in Libra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To locate Perenium,one has to find a plane connecting > > anus > > > > and > > > > > > linga. > > > > > > > > > This plane is slanted to the vertical axis.Where is > > > > perenium.If > > > > > > perenium > > > > > > > > > is between anus and linga,how can you you place this > in > > > > > > Libra,where Anus and > > > > > > > > > Linga are yet to start? > > > > > > > > > By reading all these together,it is not at all > > difficult > > > to > > > > > > understand how > > > > > > > > > mooladhara chakra ,hanging upside down,in the > vicinity > > of > > > > > > perenium & scrotum > > > > > > > > > ,bordering thighs can be connected to Vrischika and > > Dhanu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am unable to read your mind. Do me a favour and paint > > a > > > > picture > > > > > > of what > > > > > > > > you have in your mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrahari did not conclude based on an assumption (as > > many > > > > astro > > > > > > > > > ''scholars'' are framing theories) -''oh moolam and > > > > mooldharam > > > > > > rhymes -let > > > > > > > > > me make a theory''. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning,symbolism,astrological parallels,nakshathra > > and > > > > rashi > > > > > > > > > significations,& pramana defining mooladharam > > reinforced > > > by > > > > > > > > > researches lasting numerous years,resulted in such a > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > But on the other hand Shri Narasimha is simply making > a > > > > > > statement - ''for > > > > > > > > > me, i can confidently say Mooladharam of Kalapurusha > > is in > > > > > > Libra''.Most > > > > > > > > > interestingly he is confidently giving full list of > > > > chakras,at > > > > > > equidistant > > > > > > > > > intervals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether chakras are equidistant or not only more > > research > > > and > > > > > > time will > > > > > > > > tell, it is a very fertile ground for research. On the > > other > > > > > > hand, you > > > > > > > > haven't provided any map whatsoever. I place the burden > > of > > > > proof > > > > > > on your > > > > > > > > head, provide a complete map of chakras and prove that > > > > chakras > > > > > > are at > > > > > > > > un-equal intervals! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If i dont know about something -i have a simple > answer.And > > > that > > > > > > is ''I don't Know''.I do not map all the chakras to various > > > > signs,in > > > > > > haste.Throat is Taurus(speech ,vocal cord should fall under > > 2nd > > > > > > house) -this is basic knoweldge,and how can one map this on > > to > > > > Gemini > > > > > > (hands,arms,shoulder -bahu) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > > > > > > Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: - If you have something against Sri.Narasimha, it > is > > > > better > > > > > > you trash it > > > > > > > > out with him. It does you no good to deride and incur > > bad > > > > karma, > > > > > > with each > > > > > > > > and every post, does it? We are all in search of the > > same > > > > light, > > > > > > he has > > > > > > > > genuinely expressed his opinions and you did yours > (w.r.t > > > > varga > > > > > > charts), end > > > > > > > > of story! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed.But you are not asking shri Narasimha to provide > > > > diagrams.I > > > > > > do not think this can incur bad karma.I have only good > > > > > > intentions.Shri Narasimha is not saying ''he thinks'' -he > > says > > > he > > > > > > is ''confident'' and making theories.We are all in search > of > > > the > > > > same > > > > > > light -but if one among our friends is not ready to listen - > > > we > > > > have > > > > > > to help him.We will first try to convince him using soft > > > > words.If it > > > > > > is not working we have to be firm.I feel i am not wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Om Akhanda mandalaakaaram > > > > > > > > vyaptam yena charaa charam > > > > > > > > tatpadam darsita yena > > > > > > > > tasmai sri gurave namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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