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Namaste all,

 

Let me make a few ramblings and then go back to work. I had a very busy week at

work and I am still working.

 

This is not an issue of belittling women or sexism or feminism. Kundalini

activation does not make one a great person (in fact, a rising Kundalini makes

one more and more humble, especially after the first few hurdles). If a

particular group of people cannot have Kundalini activation, it is no big deal

and not an insult. So that is not where I am coming from. But the bottomline is

that what Prabodh said is simply incorrect. I can accept such

 

Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego consciousness, which makes one

think of oneself as a separate entity (as opposed being the supreme Brahman

that everybody in reality is). Kundalini is normally in Mooladhara chakra and

coils around Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds one to the idea of

self that encompasses one's body, name etc.

 

At this level, there is a difference based on the sex. But, as Kundalini rises

and one's ego consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's sex

is immaterial.

 

In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body that is male or female. And, one's

ego consciousness is bound to body at very low levels of self-consciousness

(i.e. Kundalini in lower chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher planes

of consciousness, one's ego consciousness is no longer bound to body. Then how

important is one's sex?

 

In answer to Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha Yogis. However, one does not

need hatha yoga to activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha yoga is but

one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc - there are so many paths.

 

If you want to see the characteristics of one's consciousness, when it is in the

14 different planes of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras and 14 lokas),

read "Yoga Vaasishtham" (a dialog between Rama and Vasishtha that was described

by Valmiki). It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a masterpiece of

Advaita philosophy. In fact, I haven't read a better book - or a book that

influenced me more profoundly - in my life so far. Anyway, whether you are

pursuing Raja yoga or Jnaana yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever,

your Kundalini will rise only when your self-consciousness reaches higher

planes of consciousness (which can happen in men and women). The way to make

that happen is different in different paths.

 

In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of consciousness according to

Vasishtha and he gave an example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot come

without self-consciousness reaching the highest plane of consciousness (i.e.

consciousness that one is simply supreme Brahman and nothing else), i.e.

Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can reach Sahasrara in a bird, why

not in a woman?

 

BTW, one more philosophical rambling:

 

As we are born as human beings and blessed with some intellect, we should try to

understand "self" better, instead of tying ourselves down with nonsensical

concepts of "self" that only take us further and further away from who we truly

are. One's concept of "self" (ego) is what one truly believes one's "self" to

be. By practice and conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one succeeds or

not, it is worthwhile for every human being to ask oneself "who am I? What

exactly is my "self"?" This may sound like a stupid question, but do ask

yourself this question everyday and, believe me, it will slowly start making a

difference.

 

OK, good night now!

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> Dear Jyothi and others,> In reply to the question "Why awakening is

impossible in women?", Prabodh wrote the following:> "When I said that women

will not have kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I respect

all women. All the people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have told me

that women are not allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can

guess." > Does Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy his

story? It is his own idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume", but

instead he wrote: "Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no

Kundalini activation"> It appeared that he had total confidence even though

he knows nothing about the subject. What I would like to say here is that

before making such a radical remark, think millions of times. What does he

think happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa,

etc? Were they all men and not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh

has definately touched my nerve with this. His statement can mislead and

disappoint women. My urge to all women is to continue on your earnest search

for yourself. Life is too short. And not only that, but human life is rare.

Make the best out of this life time. You are not limited to anything. > >

Regards,> Devika.> > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:>

Dear Sir,> > It is understood that you didnt mean to belittle women.

But > I was thinking whether it was just your personal opinion (which I > knew

it is) or you had any scientific reason.I have read the > experiences narrated

by several women about their KA in the net. If > my memory is correct, even in

this group much earlier some body had > written about that. (That was how I

started reading of it with more > curiosity).> > Since you said it so

authentically, I thought you might have some > reliable reason. If it is the

problem of only "allowance' and > not 'impossible' , then ok. Because

personally I feel women are more > capable of awakening Kundalini more quickly

and less dangerously than > men because of their inherent fine nature and

strong mental > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz).> > Also isnt

Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to awaken > Kundalini? Just because

you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > disciple does that mean women are

not capable or permitted for KA? > Those Hatha Yogis may be people scared of

losing their mental > control!! I dont find any other reason. If you know

please share. If > my understanding is correct Kundalini can awaken due to

various > reasons, without doing any yoga. Just intense faith in ones Goddess >

and above all the intense and genuine QUEST to know the truth will, I > believe,

lead one to such experiences. In this case it can be a > spontaneous process. I

hope I am right.> > "If anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it

would be > interesting to read the expirences."> > Regarding this, I feel

the experiences of KA with each person is > unique. It doesnt have anything to

do with gender. Like, all men will > feel like this and all women will like

that. Am I correct?> If the net resources can be believed there are lot of

articles by > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had read about it

but > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I will let you >

know. > > Thanks for your clarification.> > REgards,> Jyothi.> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > <amolmandar> wrote:>

>> > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste> > > > When I said that women will not have

kundalini activation I did not > > mean to belittle them. I respect all women.

All the people whom I > > met who had Kundalini activation have told me that

women are not > > allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess.

If > > anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > >

interesting to read the expirences. Another point, I have not > > read /met any

Hatyogi with a female diciple. If anybody knows such > > Hatyogi guru please let

me know. I will be very much thankful.> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and

Sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > >

> vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > >

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > >> > > Dear sir,> > > > > > Why

do you say Kundalini activation is impossible in > > > women? Can you please

explain the reason for that?> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > > > > >

vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > >

<amolmandar> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vishnu and TV Rao Namste> > > > > >

> > Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no > > Kundalini > > >

> activation.> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > >

> Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > har Har Shankar> > > > > > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala > > > >

<jvishnu@g...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > >

> > Dear Sri Rao garu,> > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini sakti is present in

women too.> > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > Vishnu> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99 <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> > > > > >> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "r_tv_99" > > > >

<tvrao_agd@s...>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > respected gurus and

members,> > > > > >> > > > > > in this thread only male anatomy is discussed

with respect > to> > > > > > kundalini. as a laymen, please enlighten me

whether the > > > kundalini> > > > > > shakti is present in females or not? or

it is only present > > in > > > > males?> > > > > >> > > > > > tvr

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reality is). Kundalini is normally in Mooladhara chakra and coils around

Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness binds one to the idea of self that

encompasses one's body, name etc. At this level, there is a difference based

on the sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego consciousness reaches higher

planes of consciousness, one's sex is immaterial. In fact, soul has no sex.

It is only the body that is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness is

bound to body at very low levels of self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower

chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's

ego consciousness is no longer bound to body. Then how important is one's sex?

In answer to

Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga

to activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha yoga is but one path. Bhakti

yoga, jnaana yoga etc - there are so many paths. If you want to see the

characteristics of one's consciousness, when it is in the 14 different planes

of consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras and 14 lokas), read "Yoga

Vaasishtham" (a dialog between Rama and Vasishtha that was described by

Valmiki). It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a masterpiece of Advaita

philosophy. In fact, I haven't read a better book - or a book that influenced me

more profoundly - in my life so far. Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga

or Jnaana yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever, your Kundalini will

rise only when your self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness

(which can happen in men and women). The way to

make that happen is different in different paths. In fact, animals can also

reach higher planes of consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave an

example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot come without self-consciousness

reaching the highest plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that one is

simply supreme Brahman and nothing else), i.e. Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If

Kundalini can reach Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman? BTW, one more

philosophical rambling: As we are born as human beings and blessed with some

intellect, we should try to understand "self" better, instead of tying

ourselves down with nonsensical concepts of "self" that only take us further

and further away from who we

truly are. One's concept of "self" (ego) is what one truly believes one's "self"

to be. By practice and conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one succeeds or

not, it is worthwhile for every human being to ask oneself "who am I? What

exactly is my "self"?" This may sound like a stupid question, but do ask

yourself this question everyday and, believe me, it will slowly start making a

difference. OK, good night now! May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha ------------------------------- Free

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------------------------------- > Dear Jyothi

and others,> In reply to the question "Why awakening is impossible in

women?", Prabodh wrote the following:> "When I said that women will not have

kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I respect all women. All

the people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are

not allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess." > Does

Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy his story? It is his own

idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume", but instead he wrote:

"Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no Kundalini activation">

It appeared that he had total confidence even though he knows nothing about

the subject. What I would like to say here is that before making such a radical

remark, think millions of times. What does he think happened to Mira bai,

Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they all men and

not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh has definately touched my

nerve with this. His statement can mislead and disappoint women. My urge to all

women is to continue on your earnest search for yourself. Life is too short. And

not only that, but human life is rare. Make the best out of this life time. You

are not limited to anything. > > Regards,>

Devika.> > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Dear Sir,> >

It is understood that you didnt mean to belittle women. But > I was

thinking whether it was just your personal opinion (which I > knew it is) or

you had any scientific reason.I have read the > experiences narrated by several

women about their KA in the net. If > my memory is correct, even in this group

much earlier some body had > written about that. (That was how I started

reading of it with more > curiosity).> > Since you said it so

authentically, I thought you might have some > reliable reason. If it is the

problem of only "allowance' and > not 'impossible' , then ok. Because

personally I feel women are more > capable of awakening Kundalini

more quickly and less dangerously than > men because of their inherent fine

nature and strong mental > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz).> >

Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to awaken > Kundalini? Just

because you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > disciple does that mean

women are not capable or permitted for KA? > Those Hatha Yogis may be people

scared of losing their mental > control!! I dont find any other reason. If you

know please share. If > my understanding is correct Kundalini can awaken due to

various > reasons, without doing any yoga. Just intense faith in ones Goddess >

and above all the intense and genuine QUEST to know the truth will, I >

believe, lead one to such experiences. In this case it can be a > spontaneous

process. I hope I am right.> > "If anybody has a case of woman

kundalini activation it would be > interesting to read the expirences."> >

Regarding this, I feel the experiences of KA with each person is > unique. It

doesnt have anything to do with gender. Like, all men will > feel like this and

all women will like that. Am I correct?> If the net resources can be believed

there are lot of articles by > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I

had read about it but > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I

will let you > know. > > Thanks for your clarification.> > REgards,> Jyothi.>

> vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > <amolmandar>

wrote:> >> > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste> > > > When I

said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not > > mean to

belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I > > met who had

Kundalini activation have told me that women are not > > allowed into this. I

never dared to ask why but I can guess. If > > anybody has a case of woman

kundalini activation it would be > > interesting to read the expirences.

Another point, I have not > > read /met any Hatyogi with a female diciple. If

anybody knows such > > Hatyogi guru please let me know. I will be very much

thankful.> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande>

> Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi>

wrote:> > >> > > Dear sir,> > > > > > Why do you say Kundalini

activation is impossible in > > > women? Can you please explain the reason for

that?> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > <amolmandar>

wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vishnu and TV Rao Namste> > > > > > > > Activation of

Chakras in female body is possible but no > > Kundalini > > > > activation.> > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and

Sapce.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > har Har

Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Vishnu

Jandhyala > > > > <jvishnu@g...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna

||> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Rao garu,> > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini

sakti is present in women too.> > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > >

Vishnu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99

<tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> > >

> > >> > > > > > vedic astrology, "r_tv_99" > > > >

<tvrao_agd@s...>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > respected gurus and

members,> > > > > >> > > > > > in this thread only male anatomy is discussed

with respect > to> > > > > > kundalini. as a laymen, please enlighten me

whether the > > > kundalini> > > > > > shakti is present in females or not? or

it is only present > > in > > > > males?> > > > > >> > > > > > tvr

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Namaste Madam,

 

Just to make it clear, I did not imply that you took Prabodh's statement as

belittling women. In fact, I was supporting your view. I too was saying that

Prabodh was simply incorrect.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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-------------------------------

> Namaste Narasimha and all,> Prabodh's statement was not taken as

belittling women or sexism or feminism. It was not even taken as an insult, but

it was totally wrong. Not only that, but the explanation he later gave for the

statement was wrong as well. He seemed to be very confident when he does not

know anything about the subject. My question is why misguide and disappoint

someone? If one does not know the subject, then they should state that it is

their assumption. Jyotish on the other hand, is full of assumptions and we all

know that and we all accept that. > > Thanks,> Devika> > "Narasimha

P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:> Namaste all,> > Let me make a few

ramblings and then go back to work. I had a very busy week at work and I am

still working.> > This is not an issue of belittling women or sexism or

feminism. Kundalini activation does not make one a great person (in fact, a

rising Kundalini makes one more and more humble, especially after the first few

hurdles). If a particular group of people cannot have Kundalini activation, it

is no big deal and not an insult. So that is not where I am coming from. But

the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is simply incorrect. I can accept

such> > Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego consciousness,

which makes one think of oneself as a separate entity (as opposed being the

supreme Brahman that everybody in reality is). Kundalini is normally in

Mooladhara chakra and coils around Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness

binds one to the idea of self that encompasses one's body, name etc.> > At

this level, there is a difference based on the sex. But, as Kundalini rises and

one's ego consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's sex is

immaterial.> > In fact, soul has no sex. It is only the body that is male

or female. And, one's ego consciousness is bound to body at very low levels of

self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in lower chakras). As self-consciousness

reaches higher planes of consciousness, one's ego consciousness is no longer

bound to body. Then how important is one's sex?> > In answer to Prabodh's

point, women can be Hatha Yogis. However, one does not need hatha yoga to

activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise. Hatha yoga is but one path. Bhakti

yoga, jnaana yoga etc - there are so many paths.> > If you want to see the

characteristics of one's consciousness, when it is in the 14 different planes of

consciousness (corresponding to 14 chakras and 14 lokas), read "Yoga

Vaasishtham" (a dialog between Rama and Vasishtha that was described by

Valmiki). It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a masterpiece of Advaita

philosophy. In fact, I haven't read a better book - or a book that influenced me

more profoundly - in my life so far. Anyway, whether you are pursuing Raja yoga

or Jnaana yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever, your Kundalini will

rise only when your self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness

(which can happen in men and women). The way to make that happen is different

in different paths.> > In fact, animals can also reach higher planes of

consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave an example where a bird got

moksha. Moksha cannot come without self-consciousness reaching the highest

plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that one is simply supreme Brahman

and nothing else), i.e. Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If Kundalini can reach

Sahasrara in a bird, why not in a woman?> > BTW, one more philosophical

rambling:> > As we are born as human beings and blessed with some

intellect, we should try to understand "self" better, instead of tying

ourselves down with nonsensical concepts of "self" that only take us further

and further away from who we truly are. One's concept of "self" (ego) is what

one truly believes one's "self" to be. By practice and conditioning, it can be

altered. Whether one succeeds or not, it is worthwhile for every human being to

ask oneself "who am I? What exactly is my "self"?" This may sound like a stupid

question, but do ask yourself this question everyday and, believe me, it will

slowly start making a difference.> > OK, good night now!> > May

Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha>

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Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish

software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre

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-------------------------------> > > > > >

Dear Jyothi and others,> > In reply to the question "Why awakening is

impossible in women?", Prabodh wrote the following:> > "When I said that

women will not have kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I

respect all women. All the people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have

told me that women are not allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I

can guess." > > Does Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy

his story? It is his own idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume",

but instead he wrote: "Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no

Kundalini activation"> > It appeared that he had total confidence even though

he knows nothing about the subject. What I would like to say here is that before

making such a radical remark, think millions of times. What does he think

happened to Mira bai, Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc?

Were they all men and not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh has

definately touched my nerve with this. His statement can mislead and disappoint

women. My urge to all women is to continue on your earnest search for yourself.

Life is too short. And not only that, but human life is rare. Make the best out

of this life time. You are not limited to anything. > > > > Regards,> >

Devika.> > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > Dear

Sir,> > > > It is understood that you didnt mean to belittle women.

But > > I was thinking whether it was just your personal opinion (which I > >

knew it is) or you had any scientific reason.I have read the > > experiences

narrated by several women about their KA in the net. If > > my memory is

correct, even in this group much earlier some body had > > written about that.

(That was how I started reading of it with more > > curiosity).> > > >

Since you said it so authentically, I thought you might have some > > reliable

reason. If it is the problem of only "allowance' and > > not 'impossible' ,

then ok. Because personally I feel women are more > > capable of awakening

Kundalini more quickly and less dangerously than > > men because of their

inherent fine nature and strong mental > > faculties. (No controversy

meant...plz).> > > > Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to

awaken > > Kundalini? Just because you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > >

disciple does that mean women are not capable or permitted for KA? > > Those

Hatha Yogis may be people scared of losing their mental > > control!! I dont

find any other reason. If you know please share. If > > my understanding is

correct Kundalini can awaken due to various > > reasons, without doing any

yoga. Just intense faith in ones Goddess > > and above all the intense and

genuine QUEST to know the truth will, I > > believe, lead one to such

experiences. In this case it can be a > > spontaneous process. I hope I am

right.> > > > "If anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would

be > > interesting to read the expirences."> > > > Regarding this, I feel

the experiences of KA with each person is > > unique. It doesnt have anything

to do with gender. Like, all men will > > feel like this and all women will

like that. Am I correct?> > If the net resources can be believed there are

lot of articles by > > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had read

about it but > > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I will

let you > > know. > > > > Thanks for your clarification.> > > > REgards,> >

Jyothi.> > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > >

<amolmandar> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste> > > > > > When I

said that women will not have kundalini activation I did not > > > mean to

belittle them. I respect all women. All the people whom I > > > met who had

Kundalini activation have told me that women are not > > > allowed into this. I

never dared to ask why but I can guess. If > > > anybody has a case of woman

kundalini activation it would be > > > interesting to read the expirences.

Another point, I have not > > > read /met any Hatyogi with a female diciple. If

anybody knows such > > > Hatyogi guru please let me know. I will be very much

thankful.> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh

Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > >

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear sir,> > > > > > > >

Why do you say Kundalini activation is impossible in > > > > women? Can you

please explain the reason for that?> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > >

Jyothi> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh

Vekhande" > > > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vishnu and TV

Rao Namste> > > > > > > > > > Activation of Chakras in female body is possible

but no > > > Kundalini > > > > > activation.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot

for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai

Shankar> > > > > har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala > > > > > <jvishnu@g...>

wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Sri Rao garu,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini sakti is present in

women too.> > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > Vishnu> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99 <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:>

> > > > > >> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "r_tv_99" > >

> > > <tvrao_agd@s...>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > respected

gurus and members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > in this thread only male anatomy

is discussed with respect > > to> > > > > > > kundalini. as a laymen, please

enlighten me whether the > > > > kundalini> > > > > > > shakti is present in

females or not? or it is only present > > > in > > > > > males?> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > tvr

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all,> Prabodh's statement was not taken as belittling women or sexism or

feminism. It was not even taken as an insult, but it was totally wrong. Not

only that, but the explanation he later gave for the statement was wrong as

well. He seemed to be very confident when he does not know anything about the

subject. My question is why misguide and disappoint someone? If one does not

know the subject, then they should state that it is their assumption. Jyotish

on the other hand, is full of assumptions and we all know that and we all

accept that. > > Thanks,> Devika> > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...>

wrote:> Namaste all,> > Let me make a few ramblings and then go

back to work. I had a very busy week at work and I am still

working.> > This is not an issue of belittling women or sexism or feminism.

Kundalini activation does not make one a great person (in fact, a rising

Kundalini makes one more and more humble, especially after the first few

hurdles). If a particular group of people cannot have Kundalini activation, it

is no big deal and not an insult. So that is not where I am coming from. But

the bottomline is that what Prabodh said is simply incorrect. I can accept

such> > Kundalini is nothing but the shakti of one's ego consciousness,

which makes one think of oneself as a separate entity (as opposed being the

supreme Brahman that everybody in reality is). Kundalini is normally in

Mooladhara chakra and coils around Swayambhoo Linga. One's ego consciousness

binds one to the idea of self that encompasses one's body, name etc.> > At

this level, there is a difference based

on the sex. But, as Kundalini rises and one's ego consciousness reaches higher

planes of consciousness, one's sex is immaterial.> > In fact, soul has no

sex. It is only the body that is male or female. And, one's ego consciousness

is bound to body at very low levels of self-consciousness (i.e. Kundalini in

lower chakras). As self-consciousness reaches higher planes of consciousness,

one's ego consciousness is no longer bound to body. Then how important is one's

sex?> > In answer to Prabodh's point, women can be Hatha Yogis. However,

one does not need hatha yoga to activate Kundalini or make Kundalini rise.

Hatha yoga is but one path. Bhakti yoga, jnaana yoga etc - there are so many

paths.> > If you want to see the characteristics of one's consciousness,

when it is in the 14 different planes of consciousness (corresponding to 14

chakras and 14 lokas),

read "Yoga Vaasishtham" (a dialog between Rama and Vasishtha that was described

by Valmiki). It is a fascinating and masterly book. It is a masterpiece of

Advaita philosophy. In fact, I haven't read a better book - or a book that

influenced me more profoundly - in my life so far. Anyway, whether you are

pursuing Raja yoga or Jnaana yoga or Bhakti yoga or Karma yoga or whatever,

your Kundalini will rise only when your self-consciousness reaches higher

planes of consciousness (which can happen in men and women). The way to make

that happen is different in different paths.> > In fact, animals can also

reach higher planes of consciousness according to Vasishtha and he gave an

example where a bird got moksha. Moksha cannot come without self-consciousness

reaching the highest plane of consciousness (i.e. consciousness that one is

simply supreme Brahman and nothing else), i.e. Kundalini reaching Sahasrara. If

Kundalini can reach Sahasrara in a

bird, why not in a woman?> > BTW, one more philosophical rambling:> >

As we are born as human beings and blessed with some intellect, we should try

to understand "self" better, instead of tying ourselves down with nonsensical

concepts of "self" that only take us further and further away from who we truly

are. One's concept of "self" (ego) is what one truly believes one's "self" to

be. By practice and conditioning, it can be altered. Whether one succeeds or

not, it is worthwhile for every human being to ask oneself "who am I? What

exactly is my "self"?" This may sound like a stupid question, but do ask

yourself this question everyday and, believe me, it will slowly start making a

difference.> > OK, good night now!> > May Jupiter's light shine

on us,

> Narasimha>

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Dear Jyothi and others,> > In reply to the question "Why awakening is

impossible in women?", Prabodh wrote the following:> > "When I said that

women will not have kundalini activation I did not mean to belittle them. I

respect all women. All the

people whom I met who had Kundalini activation have told me that women are not

allowed into this. I never dared to ask why but I can guess." > > Does

Prabodh think that people are that much gullible to buy his story? It is his

own idea. He should have wrote "I think" or "I assume", but instead he wrote:

"Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no Kundalini activation">

> It appeared that he had total confidence even though he knows nothing about

the subject. What I would like to say here is that before making such a radical

remark, think millions of times. What does he think happened to Mira bai,

Amritanandamayi, Hazrat Babajaan, Anandamayi Maa, etc? Were they all men and

not women? Normally I am a calm person, but Prabodh has definately touched my

nerve with this. His statement can mislead and disappoint women. My urge to all

women is to continue on your earnest search for yourself. Life is too short. And

not only that, but

human life is rare. Make the best out of this life time. You are not limited to

anything. > > > > Regards,> > Devika.> > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > > > It is understood

that you didnt mean to belittle women. But > > I was thinking whether it was

just your personal opinion (which I > > knew it is) or you had any scientific

reason.I have read the > > experiences narrated by several women about their KA

in the net. If > > my memory is correct, even in this group much earlier some

body had > > written about that. (That was how I started reading of it with

more > > curiosity).> > > > Since

you said it so authentically, I thought you might have some > > reliable reason.

If it is the problem of only "allowance' and > > not 'impossible' , then ok.

Because personally I feel women are more > > capable of awakening Kundalini

more quickly and less dangerously than > > men because of their inherent fine

nature and strong mental > > faculties. (No controversy meant...plz).> > > >

Also isnt Hatha yoga one among the sevaral methods to awaken > > Kundalini?

Just because you havent met any Hatha yogi with female > > disciple does that

mean women are not capable or permitted for KA? > > Those Hatha Yogis may be

people scared of losing their mental > > control!! I dont find any other

reason. If you know please share. If > > my understanding is correct Kundalini

can awaken due to various > > reasons, without doing any yoga.

Just intense faith in ones Goddess > > and above all the intense and genuine

QUEST to know the truth will, I > > believe, lead one to such experiences. In

this case it can be a > > spontaneous process. I hope I am right.> > > >

"If anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation it would be > >

interesting to read the expirences."> > > > Regarding this, I feel the

experiences of KA with each person is > > unique. It doesnt have anything to do

with gender. Like, all men will > > feel like this and all women will like that.

Am I correct?> > If the net resources can be believed there are lot of

articles by > > women explaining their Kundalini experience. I had read about

it but > > dont remember the site names. If I come across again I will let you

> > know. >

> > > Thanks for your clarification.> > > > REgards,> > Jyothi.> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > <amolmandar>

wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyotiji & All Namaste> > > > > > When I said that women

will not have kundalini activation I did not > > > mean to belittle them. I

respect all women. All the people whom I > > > met who had Kundalini activation

have told me that women are not > > > allowed into this. I never dared to ask

why but I can guess. If > > > anybody has a case of woman kundalini activation

it would be > > > interesting to read the expirences. Another point, I have not

> > > read /met any Hatyogi with a female diciple. If anybody

knows such > > > Hatyogi guru please let me know. I will be very much thankful.>

> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > >

Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > >

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear sir,> > > > > > > >

Why do you say Kundalini activation is impossible in > > > > women? Can you

please explain the reason for that?> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > >

Jyothi> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > >

<amolmandar> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vishnu and TV Rao Namste> > > >

> > > > > > Activation of Chakras in female body is possible but no > > >

Kundalini > > > > > activation.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time

and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > >

> har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala > > > > > <jvishnu@g...>

wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Sri Rao garu,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, kundalini sakti is present in

women too.> > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > Vishnu> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, r_tv_99 <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:>

> > > > > >> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "r_tv_99" > >

> > > <tvrao_agd@s...>> > > > > > > wrote:>

> > > > > >> > > > > > > respected gurus and members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >

in this thread only male anatomy is discussed with respect > > to> > > > > > >

kundalini. as a laymen, please enlighten me whether the > > > > kundalini> > >

> > > > shakti is present in females or not? or it is only present > > > in > >

> > > males?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > tvr

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