Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Dear all, I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL in their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide what's the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! Thanks to all once again. Regards, jyothi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear Jyothiji, I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's placement. My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a very lucky man all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My wife's Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the luckiest of all her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that Lagna Lord placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in fact, some authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is the best position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya Sthaanam is very well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily money alone). I can assure on this principle very much. Regards, Satya vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL in > their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide what's > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > Thanks to all once again. > > > Regards, > jyothi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Satya, Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai Kolachina Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects Dear Jyothiji, I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's placement. My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a very lucky man all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My wife's Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the luckiest of all her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that Lagna Lord placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in fact, some authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is the best position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya Sthaanam is very well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily money alone). I can assure on this principle very much. Regards, Satya vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL in > their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide what's > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > Thanks to all once again. > > > Regards, > jyothi > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Ramesh, I am very happy to say that I am the most benefitted among all my siblings (though my father never showed bias towards any of his children), with regards to taking/implementing father's advice. I have a multitude of hobbies, and I am a born artist, though I did not make art as my profession. When I was 16, I was a published novelist and my father encouraged me for that. My fahter taught me how to write novels and stories, thought he was not a novelist, but he was a scholar in a couple of languages. At the age of 17 I acted in a film (nobody could believe) and that was with my father's encouragement (He pushed me into the film field, but I could not continue in that field due to lack of opportunities and politics involved in that field, but I still act on the stage). From the age of 8 onwards, I have been drawing and painting and now I am an established painter (not professionally), and that was with my father's encouragement. At the age of 15 I started Carnatic music (vocal) with my father's encouragement; discontinued at that time but continued later, and now I am Carnatic classical music singer. When my father was 80 yrs old, he encouraged me to go abroad for self-development. I did not show interest since my parents were old; then he scolded me that I was not following his advice; ultimately by his force I came to US (much later than my counterparts in those days). What else can a son expect from a father? Millions of dollars? My father has formed the strongest base for my today's social status. He knew that I had skills in multiple arts, and he encouraged me in every field, and he wanted to see me rise to the highest position. Professionally he made me an Engineer (PG in Engg from one of the premier institutes of India, IIT Kharagpur). I am so indebted to him that I cannot repay it in this birth, in any way. I know why you were asking this question; it is said that LL placed in 9th house will show some kind of problem related to father. But I strongly say that many other factors need to be considered and not just this statement alone. Astrology is a complicated science and we should not take any single principle standalone. Now my father is 93 and still healthy. He doesn't have any health problem (I have some health problems which he doesn't have). I hope I answered your question. Regards, Satya vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > Dear Satya, > Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai Kolachina > Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > Dear Jyothiji, > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's placement. > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a very lucky man > all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My wife's > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the luckiest of all > her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that Lagna Lord > placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in fact, some > authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is the best > position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya Sthaanam is very > well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily money alone). > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > Regards, > Satya > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL in > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide > what's > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > Regards, > > jyothi > > ------------------------ Sponsor -------------------- ~--> Join > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > - -~-> > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Satya, Thank you for nice feedback. May God bless your father. You guessed the purpose for asking question correctly. You are also right that a placement cannot be seen in isolation and needs to be seen in conjunction with other placements. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai Kolachina Monday, December 19, 2005 8:13 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects Ramesh, I am very happy to say that I am the most benefitted among all my siblings (though my father never showed bias towards any of his children), with regards to taking/implementing father's advice. I have a multitude of hobbies, and I am a born artist, though I did not make art as my profession. When I was 16, I was a published novelist and my father encouraged me for that. My fahter taught me how to write novels and stories, thought he was not a novelist, but he was a scholar in a couple of languages. At the age of 17 I acted in a film (nobody could believe) and that was with my father's encouragement (He pushed me into the film field, but I could not continue in that field due to lack of opportunities and politics involved in that field, but I still act on the stage). From the age of 8 onwards, I have been drawing and painting and now I am an established painter (not professionally), and that was with my father's encouragement. At the age of 15 I started Carnatic music (vocal) with my father's encouragement; discontinued at that time but continued later, and now I am Carnatic classical music singer. When my father was 80 yrs old, he encouraged me to go abroad for self-development. I did not show interest since my parents were old; then he scolded me that I was not following his advice; ultimately by his force I came to US (much later than my counterparts in those days). What else can a son expect from a father? Millions of dollars? My father has formed the strongest base for my today's social status. He knew that I had skills in multiple arts, and he encouraged me in every field, and he wanted to see me rise to the highest position. Professionally he made me an Engineer (PG in Engg from one of the premier institutes of India, IIT Kharagpur). I am so indebted to him that I cannot repay it in this birth, in any way. I know why you were asking this question; it is said that LL placed in 9th house will show some kind of problem related to father. But I strongly say that many other factors need to be considered and not just this statement alone. Astrology is a complicated science and we should not take any single principle standalone. Now my father is 93 and still healthy. He doesn't have any health problem (I have some health problems which he doesn't have). I hope I answered your question. Regards, Satya vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > Dear Satya, > Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai Kolachina > Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > Dear Jyothiji, > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's placement. > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a very lucky man > all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My wife's > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the luckiest of all > her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that Lagna Lord > placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in fact, some > authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is the best > position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya Sthaanam is very > well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily money alone). > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > Regards, > Satya > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL in > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide > what's > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > Regards, > > jyothi > > ------------------------ Sponsor -------------------- ~--> Join > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > - -~-> > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Give the gift of hope to an orphaned child this holiday season. Become a sponsor>> http://us.click./ZEPhsD/1RCMAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think this and other mails on this subject are a sufficient eye opener for those who say that LL is bad anywhere it is, except when it is in its own house- something contrary to traditional astrological wisdom. Pran Razdan vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > Dear Satya, > Thank you for nice feedback. May God bless your father. You guessed the > purpose for asking question correctly. You are also right that a placement > cannot be seen in isolation and needs to be seen in conjunction with other > placements. > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai Kolachina > Monday, December 19, 2005 8:13 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > Ramesh, > > I am very happy to say that I am the most benefitted among all my siblings > (though my father never showed bias towards any of his children), with > regards to taking/implementing father's advice. I have a multitude of > hobbies, and I am a born artist, though I did not make art as my profession. > When I was 16, I was a published novelist and my father encouraged me for > that. My fahter taught me how to write novels and stories, thought he was > not a novelist, but he was a scholar in a couple of languages. At the age of > 17 I acted in a film (nobody could believe) and that was with my father's > encouragement (He pushed me into the film field, but I could not continue in > that field due to lack of opportunities and politics involved in that field, > but I still act on the stage). From the age of 8 onwards, I have been > drawing and painting and now I am an established painter (not > professionally), and that was with my father's encouragement. At the age of > 15 I started Carnatic music > (vocal) with my father's encouragement; discontinued at that time but > continued later, and now I am Carnatic classical music singer. > When my father was 80 yrs old, he encouraged me to go abroad for > self-development. I did not show interest since my parents were old; then he > scolded me that I was not following his advice; ultimately by his force I > came to US (much later than my counterparts in those days). What else can a > son expect from a father? Millions of dollars? My father has formed the > strongest base for my today's social status. He knew that I had skills in > multiple arts, and he encouraged me in every field, and he wanted to see me > rise to the highest position. Professionally he made me an Engineer (PG in > Engg from one of the premier institutes of India, IIT Kharagpur). > > I am so indebted to him that I cannot repay it in this birth, in any way. > > I know why you were asking this question; it is said that LL placed in 9th > house will show some kind of problem related to father. But I strongly say > that many other factors need to be considered and not just this statement > alone. Astrology is a complicated science and we should not take any single > principle standalone. > > Now my father is 93 and still healthy. He doesn't have any health problem (I > have some health problems which he doesn't have). > > I hope I answered your question. > > Regards, > Satya > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > Dear Satya, > > Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? > > Best Wishes, > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai > Kolachina > > Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > > > Dear Jyothiji, > > > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's placement. > > > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a very > lucky man > > all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My wife's > > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the > luckiest of all > > her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that Lagna > Lord > > placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in fact, > some > > authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is the > best > > position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya Sthaanam > is very > > well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily money > alone). > > > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > > > Regards, > > Satya > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members > who > > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL > in a > > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or > other. I > > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL > in > > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide > > what's > > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor -------------------- > ~--> Join > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and > healing > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > > - > -~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Give > the gift of hope to an orphaned child this holiday season. > Become a sponsor>> > http://us.click./ZEPhsD/1RCMAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Pran, I don't think there is any such contradiction. Astrology is a very complex science, and we should not take any single factor in isolation. Every factor should be considered. There is a lot of information stored in the Rasi chart itself coupled with Navamsha to make a really good prediction. I am very much impressed by a statement made by the eminent astrologer Sri KN Rao; that if you read the same principle again and again and apply your knowledge, you will discover something that you did not find before. What appears apparently, in fact, is hiding some detail, which is to be uncovered by the astrologers. Take a principle and apply it directly and with some variations, to a number of charts, and finally you will uncover what the principle is actually hinting, and how the variations are applicable. This is what Sri KN Rao terms as 'using a principle with confidence'. This itself shows his depth of knowledge. My sincere advice to aspiring new astrologers is not to ignore the teachings of Sri KN Rao. If you read his books and articles you will know how exactly he applies his methodology, and what is his real depth of experience. In fact, it is not correct to say that LL is bad everywhere except in Lagna. Also I read somewhere written by a popular astrologer that Lagna Lord is like Sun and wherever he is placed the fire goes to that house. This is a very wrong approach to spread this principle in isolation. Dr BV Raman's book on 'How to judge a horosocope' clearly mentions Lagna Lord's best position is the 9th house. He has mentioned it with authority. We have to understand these statements properly. Regards, Satya vedic astrology, "pnrazdan" <pnrazdan> wrote: > > I think this and other mails on this subject are a sufficient eye > opener for those who say that LL is bad anywhere it is, except when it > is in its own house- something contrary to traditional astrological > wisdom. > Pran Razdan > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > Dear Satya, > > Thank you for nice feedback. May God bless your father. You guessed the > > purpose for asking question correctly. You are also right that a > placement > > cannot be seen in isolation and needs to be seen in conjunction with > other > > placements. > > Best Wishes, > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai > Kolachina > > Monday, December 19, 2005 8:13 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > > > Ramesh, > > > > I am very happy to say that I am the most benefitted among all my > siblings > > (though my father never showed bias towards any of his children), with > > regards to taking/implementing father's advice. I have a multitude of > > hobbies, and I am a born artist, though I did not make art as my > profession. > > When I was 16, I was a published novelist and my father encouraged > me for > > that. My fahter taught me how to write novels and stories, thought > he was > > not a novelist, but he was a scholar in a couple of languages. At > the age of > > 17 I acted in a film (nobody could believe) and that was with my > father's > > encouragement (He pushed me into the film field, but I could not > continue in > > that field due to lack of opportunities and politics involved in > that field, > > but I still act on the stage). From the age of 8 onwards, I have been > > drawing and painting and now I am an established painter (not > > professionally), and that was with my father's encouragement. At the > age of > > 15 I started Carnatic music > > (vocal) with my father's encouragement; discontinued at that time but > > continued later, and now I am Carnatic classical music singer. > > When my father was 80 yrs old, he encouraged me to go abroad for > > self-development. I did not show interest since my parents were old; > then he > > scolded me that I was not following his advice; ultimately by his > force I > > came to US (much later than my counterparts in those days). What > else can a > > son expect from a father? Millions of dollars? My father has formed the > > strongest base for my today's social status. He knew that I had > skills in > > multiple arts, and he encouraged me in every field, and he wanted to > see me > > rise to the highest position. Professionally he made me an Engineer > (PG in > > Engg from one of the premier institutes of India, IIT Kharagpur). > > > > I am so indebted to him that I cannot repay it in this birth, in any > way. > > > > I know why you were asking this question; it is said that LL placed > in 9th > > house will show some kind of problem related to father. But I > strongly say > > that many other factors need to be considered and not just this > statement > > alone. Astrology is a complicated science and we should not take any > single > > principle standalone. > > > > Now my father is 93 and still healthy. He doesn't have any health > problem (I > > have some health problems which he doesn't have). > > > > I hope I answered your question. > > > > Regards, > > Satya > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? > > > Best Wishes, > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai > > Kolachina > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > > > > > Dear Jyothiji, > > > > > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's placement. > > > > > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a very > > lucky man > > > all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > > > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My wife's > > > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the > > luckiest of all > > > her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that Lagna > > Lord > > > placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in fact, > > some > > > authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is the > > best > > > position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya Sthaanam > > is very > > > well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > > > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily money > > alone). > > > > > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Satya > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members > > who > > > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL > > in a > > > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or > > other. I > > > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL > > in > > > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide > > > what's > > > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > > > > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------- ---- > > ~--> Join > > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and > > healing > > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > > > ------------------------------ ---- > > -~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear Satya, Thanks for letting know your experience. In fact, from the charts of my friends and relatives, what I have concluded is the same, that LL will give positive results of the bhava in which it is placed, provided it doesnt have any severe afflictions or malefic aspects. I would like to know if anybody has had opposite results. Regards, Jyothi vedic astrology, "Satya Sai Kolachina" <skolachi@h...> wrote: > > Dear Jyothiji, > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's placement. > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a very > lucky man all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My wife's > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the luckiest > of all her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that > Lagna Lord placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; > in fact, some authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th > house is the best position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning > Bhagya Sthaanam is very well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily money > alone). > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > Regards, > Satya > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check with LL in > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can decide > what's > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > Regards, > > jyothi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Lagna lord placement in all houses were not discussed sosharing some info.. Results of Asc Lord in the followinghouses House I One has a healthy body, is normally veryindependent, though fickle minded. Enemies are easily overcome and onehas a fortunate and long life. House II One is learned, virtuous,righteous and scholarly. Builds his/her own fortune. Has to facetrouble with enemy activity. Normally is short- sighted and wearsglasses. House III One is wise, compassionate and honored. Richeswill accumulate naturally and a charitable bent of mind is assured.There may be trouble with ears. House IV Of a sensual nature, onecan at times be accused of being too lustful. Prosperity with ownefforts is assured to the person, who shall have a happydisposition, House V One is very attached to sports, amusements andspeculative activity. Children do not bring great happiness. My incurlosses from business. House VI Trouble from enemies. Both incomeand expenses are high leading to possible accumulation ofdebts. House VII This person will get married early but will becomedetached from family. There may be many enemies. If the planet lord isafflicted, income levels may be low. House VIII A clever gambler,this person will offer good advice to others. There may be apossibility of legacies from wife’s associates/family. Academicaccomplishments are indicated. There may be tendencies fordepression. House IX This will be a wealthy &; fortunate person whomay be religious well spoken and well traveled. God luck will be aconstant companion. House X A self made man, this person will besuccessful in gathering name &; fortune. House XI A popular personwith many friends, this will be a man/woman of good qualities. HouseXII One is easily given to anger and frustration. This person may bereferred my many as amiser. Regards, Harish jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in: > Dear Satya, Thanks for letting know yourexperience. In fact,from the charts of my friends and relatives, what I have concluded isthe same, that LL will give positive results of the bhava in which itis placed, provided it doesnt have any severe afflictions or malefic aspects. I would like to know if anybody has had oppositeresults. Regards, Jyothi --- Invedic astrology, \"Satya Sai Kolachina\" wrote: > > Dear Jyothiji, > > I can confirm the following withrespect to Lagna Lord\'s placement. > > My Lagna Lord is placed inthe9th house, and I have been a very > lucky man all the time, andachieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > 40+ yrs of life. I am theluckiest of all my siblings. My wife\'s > Lagna Lord is also placed inthe 9th house. She is also the luckiest > of all her siblings. I sawa few others also, and can confirm that > Lagna Lord placed in 9thhouse is in general a very good placement; > in fact, some authorities(like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th > house is the best positionfor the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning > Bhagya Sthaanam is verywell suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > It gives happines indifferent directions (not necessarily money > alone). > > I canassure on this principle very much. > > Regards, > Satya > > ---In vedic astrology, \"jyothi_b_lakshmi\" > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who > >found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check withLL in > > their own chart and share their experience so that we candecide > what\'s > > the experience of majority. Real experience iswhat counts!! > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > >Regards, > > jyothi > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern daydisciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope andhealing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Groupinfo: vedic astrology/info.html ToUNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail tovedic astrology- ........ May Jupiter\'s lightshine on us ....... || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam SriKrishnaarpanamastu || < *=""> To visit your groupon the web, go to: vedic astrology/ < *=""> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology < *=""> Your use of Groups is subject to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Satya, I dont understand why you fail to see the contradiction here although in the last para of your post, you repeat what I said earlier about the wrong interpretation of LL by some colleagues. Concomittant factors are always necessary for predicting anything and the final prediction is based on not one principle but several of them This goes without saying and need not be repeated every time.But one cannot offer this argument to justify a new theory that runs contrary to the basic fundamentals of jyotish. It is a fact that the placement of LL alone is not enough to make a prediction about any house and several other factors have to be considered. But at the same time we have also to interpret the LL position correctly since any wrong interpretation of this placement shall have a weight in our final prediction as well.Therefore we have to see each and every new theory that is advanced by members in isolation and match it with our traditional knowledge so that it does not disturb the fine balance of making astrological predictions through conventional wisdom. The message at 68048 was very crisp and short just like a Gayatri Mantar for "shishyas" to follow. This stirred me to remind fellow colleagues about the high place given to LL in jyotish and take a view only after full discussion of this new theory. We must advance new theories responsibly and only after due verification with our basic texts so that a wrong impression does not go around particularly for learners like one of our members who said his LL is in 5th house and with this theory is afraid of his four year old lovely daughter's health. Pran Razdan vedic astrology, "Satya Sai Kolachina" <skolachi@h...> wrote: > > Pran, > > I don't think there is any such contradiction. Astrology is a very > complex science, and we should not take any single factor in > isolation. Every factor should be considered. There is a lot of > information stored in the Rasi chart itself coupled with Navamsha to > make a really good prediction. I am very much impressed by a > statement made by the eminent astrologer Sri KN Rao; that if you > read the same principle again and again and apply your knowledge, > you will discover something that you did not find before. > > What appears apparently, in fact, is hiding some detail, which is to > be uncovered by the astrologers. Take a principle and apply it > directly and with some variations, to a number of charts, and > finally you will uncover what the principle is actually hinting, > and how the variations are applicable. This is what Sri KN Rao terms > as 'using a principle with confidence'. > > This itself shows his depth of knowledge. My sincere advice to > aspiring new astrologers is not to ignore the teachings of Sri KN > Rao. If you read his books and articles you will know how exactly he > applies his methodology, and what is his real depth of experience. > > In fact, it is not correct to say that LL is bad everywhere except > in Lagna. Also I read somewhere written by a popular astrologer that > Lagna Lord is like Sun and wherever he is placed the fire goes to > that house. This is a very wrong approach to spread this principle > in isolation. Dr BV Raman's book on 'How to judge a horosocope' > clearly mentions Lagna Lord's best position is the 9th house. He has > mentioned it with authority. We have to understand these statements > properly. > > Regards, > Satya > > > vedic astrology, "pnrazdan" <pnrazdan> > wrote: > > > > I think this and other mails on this subject are a sufficient eye > > opener for those who say that LL is bad anywhere it is, except > when it > > is in its own house- something contrary to traditional > astrological > > wisdom. > > Pran Razdan > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > Thank you for nice feedback. May God bless your father. You > guessed the > > > purpose for asking question correctly. You are also right that a > > placement > > > cannot be seen in isolation and needs to be seen in conjunction > with > > other > > > placements. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai > > Kolachina > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 8:13 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > > > > > Ramesh, > > > > > > I am very happy to say that I am the most benefitted among all my > > siblings > > > (though my father never showed bias towards any of his > children), with > > > regards to taking/implementing father's advice. I have a > multitude of > > > hobbies, and I am a born artist, though I did not make art as my > > profession. > > > When I was 16, I was a published novelist and my father > encouraged > > me for > > > that. My fahter taught me how to write novels and stories, > thought > > he was > > > not a novelist, but he was a scholar in a couple of languages. At > > the age of > > > 17 I acted in a film (nobody could believe) and that was with my > > father's > > > encouragement (He pushed me into the film field, but I could not > > continue in > > > that field due to lack of opportunities and politics involved in > > that field, > > > but I still act on the stage). From the age of 8 onwards, I have > been > > > drawing and painting and now I am an established painter (not > > > professionally), and that was with my father's encouragement. At > the > > age of > > > 15 I started Carnatic music > > > (vocal) with my father's encouragement; discontinued at that > time but > > > continued later, and now I am Carnatic classical music singer. > > > When my father was 80 yrs old, he encouraged me to go abroad for > > > self-development. I did not show interest since my parents were > old; > > then he > > > scolded me that I was not following his advice; ultimately by his > > force I > > > came to US (much later than my counterparts in those days). What > > else can a > > > son expect from a father? Millions of dollars? My father has > formed the > > > strongest base for my today's social status. He knew that I had > > skills in > > > multiple arts, and he encouraged me in every field, and he > wanted to > > see me > > > rise to the highest position. Professionally he made me an > Engineer > > (PG in > > > Engg from one of the premier institutes of India, IIT Kharagpur). > > > > > > I am so indebted to him that I cannot repay it in this birth, in > any > > way. > > > > > > I know why you were asking this question; it is said that LL > placed > > in 9th > > > house will show some kind of problem related to father. But I > > strongly say > > > that many other factors need to be considered and not just this > > statement > > > alone. Astrology is a complicated science and we should not take > any > > single > > > principle standalone. > > > > > > Now my father is 93 and still healthy. He doesn't have any health > > problem (I > > > have some health problems which he doesn't have). > > > > > > I hope I answered your question. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Satya > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > > Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai > > > Kolachina > > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord > effects > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothiji, > > > > > > > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's > placement. > > > > > > > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a > very > > > lucky man > > > > all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > > > > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My > wife's > > > > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the > > > luckiest of all > > > > her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that > Lagna > > > Lord > > > > placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in > fact, > > > some > > > > authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is > the > > > best > > > > position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya > Sthaanam > > > is very > > > > well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > > > > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily > money > > > alone). > > > > > > > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Satya > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned > members > > > who > > > > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of > LL > > > in a > > > > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or > > > other. I > > > > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check > with LL > > > in > > > > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can > decide > > > > what's > > > > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------- > ---- > > > ~--> Join > > > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope > and > > > healing > > > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > > > > ------------------------------ > ---- > > > -~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > --------------------~--> Give > > > the gift of hope to an orphaned child this holiday season. > > > Become a sponsor>> > > > http://us.click./ZEPhsD/1RCMAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > > > -------------------------------- > ---~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Pran, I accept what you explained here more clearly, than saying that there is a contradiction between the classics. Contradiction is a wrong word in this sense; because different Maha rishis have given their opinions coming from different angles; we should consolidate these texts with our innovative approach, rather than taking them as contradictions. You said: > > > I think this and other mails on this subject are a sufficient eye > > > opener for those who say that LL is bad anywhere it is, except > > when it > > > is in its own house- something contrary to traditional > > astrological > > > wisdom. Traditional astrological wisdom does not imply what you mentioned in these lines. Unfortunately such is the opinion expressed/propagated by people less-knowledgeable, or those who give undue importance to some astrological principles which should only be given some lower importance. I hope I made it more clear. Satya vedic astrology, "pnrazdan" <pnrazdan> wrote: > > Satya, > I dont understand why you fail to see the contradiction here although > in the last para of your post, you repeat what I said earlier about > the wrong interpretation of LL by some colleagues. > Concomittant factors are always necessary for predicting anything and > the final prediction is based on not one principle but several of them > This goes without saying and need not be repeated every time.But one > cannot offer this argument to justify a new theory that runs contrary > to the basic fundamentals of jyotish. > It is a fact that the placement of LL alone is not enough to make a > prediction about any house and several other factors have to be > considered. But at the same time we have also to interpret the LL > position correctly since any wrong interpretation of this placement > shall have a weight in our final prediction as well.Therefore we have > to see each and every new theory that is advanced by members in > isolation and match it with our traditional knowledge so that it does > not disturb the fine balance of making astrological predictions > through conventional wisdom. > > The message at 68048 was very crisp and short just like a Gayatri > Mantar for "shishyas" to follow. This stirred me to remind fellow > colleagues about the high place given to LL in jyotish and take a view > only after full discussion of this new theory. > > We must advance new theories responsibly and only after due > verification with our basic texts so that a wrong impression does not > go around particularly for learners like one of our members who said > his LL is in 5th house and with this theory is afraid of his four year > old lovely daughter's health. > Pran Razdan > vedic astrology, "Satya Sai Kolachina" > <skolachi@h...> wrote: > > > > Pran, > > > > I don't think there is any such contradiction. Astrology is a very > > complex science, and we should not take any single factor in > > isolation. Every factor should be considered. There is a lot of > > information stored in the Rasi chart itself coupled with Navamsha to > > make a really good prediction. I am very much impressed by a > > statement made by the eminent astrologer Sri KN Rao; that if you > > read the same principle again and again and apply your knowledge, > > you will discover something that you did not find before. > > > > What appears apparently, in fact, is hiding some detail, which is to > > be uncovered by the astrologers. Take a principle and apply it > > directly and with some variations, to a number of charts, and > > finally you will uncover what the principle is actually hinting, > > and how the variations are applicable. This is what Sri KN Rao terms > > as 'using a principle with confidence'. > > > > This itself shows his depth of knowledge. My sincere advice to > > aspiring new astrologers is not to ignore the teachings of Sri KN > > Rao. If you read his books and articles you will know how exactly he > > applies his methodology, and what is his real depth of experience. > > > > In fact, it is not correct to say that LL is bad everywhere except > > in Lagna. Also I read somewhere written by a popular astrologer that > > Lagna Lord is like Sun and wherever he is placed the fire goes to > > that house. This is a very wrong approach to spread this principle > > in isolation. Dr BV Raman's book on 'How to judge a horosocope' > > clearly mentions Lagna Lord's best position is the 9th house. He has > > mentioned it with authority. We have to understand these statements > > properly. > > > > Regards, > > Satya > > > > > > vedic astrology, "pnrazdan" <pnrazdan> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think this and other mails on this subject are a sufficient eye > > > opener for those who say that LL is bad anywhere it is, except > > when it > > > is in its own house- something contrary to traditional > > astrological > > > wisdom. > > > Pran Razdan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > > Thank you for nice feedback. May God bless your father. You > > guessed the > > > > purpose for asking question correctly. You are also right that a > > > placement > > > > cannot be seen in isolation and needs to be seen in conjunction > > with > > > other > > > > placements. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai > > > Kolachina > > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 8:13 PM > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects > > > > > > > > Ramesh, > > > > > > > > I am very happy to say that I am the most benefitted among all my > > > siblings > > > > (though my father never showed bias towards any of his > > children), with > > > > regards to taking/implementing father's advice. I have a > > multitude of > > > > hobbies, and I am a born artist, though I did not make art as my > > > profession. > > > > When I was 16, I was a published novelist and my father > > encouraged > > > me for > > > > that. My fahter taught me how to write novels and stories, > > thought > > > he was > > > > not a novelist, but he was a scholar in a couple of languages. At > > > the age of > > > > 17 I acted in a film (nobody could believe) and that was with my > > > father's > > > > encouragement (He pushed me into the film field, but I could not > > > continue in > > > > that field due to lack of opportunities and politics involved in > > > that field, > > > > but I still act on the stage). From the age of 8 onwards, I have > > been > > > > drawing and painting and now I am an established painter (not > > > > professionally), and that was with my father's encouragement. At > > the > > > age of > > > > 15 I started Carnatic music > > > > (vocal) with my father's encouragement; discontinued at that > > time but > > > > continued later, and now I am Carnatic classical music singer. > > > > When my father was 80 yrs old, he encouraged me to go abroad for > > > > self-development. I did not show interest since my parents were > > old; > > > then he > > > > scolded me that I was not following his advice; ultimately by his > > > force I > > > > came to US (much later than my counterparts in those days). What > > > else can a > > > > son expect from a father? Millions of dollars? My father has > > formed the > > > > strongest base for my today's social status. He knew that I had > > > skills in > > > > multiple arts, and he encouraged me in every field, and he > > wanted to > > > see me > > > > rise to the highest position. Professionally he made me an > > Engineer > > > (PG in > > > > Engg from one of the premier institutes of India, IIT Kharagpur). > > > > > > > > I am so indebted to him that I cannot repay it in this birth, in > > any > > > way. > > > > > > > > I know why you were asking this question; it is said that LL > > placed > > > in 9th > > > > house will show some kind of problem related to father. But I > > > strongly say > > > > that many other factors need to be considered and not just this > > > statement > > > > alone. Astrology is a complicated science and we should not take > > any > > > single > > > > principle standalone. > > > > > > > > Now my father is 93 and still healthy. He doesn't have any health > > > problem (I > > > > have some health problems which he doesn't have). > > > > > > > > I hope I answered your question. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Satya > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > > > Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya Sai > > > > Kolachina > > > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord > > effects > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothiji, > > > > > > > > > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's > > placement. > > > > > > > > > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a > > very > > > > lucky man > > > > > all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > > > > > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My > > wife's > > > > > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that > > Lagna > > > > Lord > > > > > placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in > > fact, > > > > some > > > > > authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house is > > the > > > > best > > > > > position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya > > Sthaanam > > > > is very > > > > > well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > > > > > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily > > money > > > > alone). > > > > > > > > > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Satya > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned > > members > > > > who > > > > > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of > > LL > > > > in a > > > > > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or > > > > other. I > > > > > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check > > with LL > > > > in > > > > > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can > > decide > > > > > what's > > > > > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what counts!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor ------------- --- > > ---- > > > > ~--> Join > > > > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope > > and > > > > healing > > > > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > > > > > --------------------------- --- > > ---- > > > > -~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Pran, I think I misunderstood your posting. There were two negatives in your statement that caused me misunderstand. You and I are saying the same thing. There is no point in repeating it. Regards, Satya vedic astrology, "Satya Sai Kolachina" <skolachi@h...> wrote: > > Pran, > > I accept what you explained here more clearly, than saying that there > is a contradiction between the classics. Contradiction is a wrong > word in this sense; because different Maha rishis have given their > opinions coming from different angles; we should consolidate these > texts with our innovative approach, rather than taking them as > contradictions. > > You said: > > > > I think this and other mails on this subject are a sufficient > eye > > > > opener for those who say that LL is bad anywhere it is, except > > > when it > > > > is in its own house- something contrary to traditional > > > astrological > > > > wisdom. > > Traditional astrological wisdom does not imply what you mentioned in > these lines. Unfortunately such is the opinion expressed/propagated > by people less-knowledgeable, or those who give undue importance to > some astrological principles which should only be given some lower > importance. > > I hope I made it more clear. > Satya > > vedic astrology, "pnrazdan" <pnrazdan> > wrote: > > > > Satya, > > I dont understand why you fail to see the contradiction here > although > > in the last para of your post, you repeat what I said earlier about > > the wrong interpretation of LL by some colleagues. > > Concomittant factors are always necessary for predicting anything > and > > the final prediction is based on not one principle but several of > them > > This goes without saying and need not be repeated every time.But one > > cannot offer this argument to justify a new theory that runs > contrary > > to the basic fundamentals of jyotish. > > It is a fact that the placement of LL alone is not enough to make a > > prediction about any house and several other factors have to be > > considered. But at the same time we have also to interpret the LL > > position correctly since any wrong interpretation of this placement > > shall have a weight in our final prediction as well.Therefore we > have > > to see each and every new theory that is advanced by members in > > isolation and match it with our traditional knowledge so that it > does > > not disturb the fine balance of making astrological predictions > > through conventional wisdom. > > > > The message at 68048 was very crisp and short just like a Gayatri > > Mantar for "shishyas" to follow. This stirred me to remind fellow > > colleagues about the high place given to LL in jyotish and take a > view > > only after full discussion of this new theory. > > > > We must advance new theories responsibly and only after due > > verification with our basic texts so that a wrong impression does > not > > go around particularly for learners like one of our members who said > > his LL is in 5th house and with this theory is afraid of his four > year > > old lovely daughter's health. > > Pran Razdan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Satya Sai Kolachina" > > <skolachi@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Pran, > > > > > > I don't think there is any such contradiction. Astrology is a > very > > > complex science, and we should not take any single factor in > > > isolation. Every factor should be considered. There is a lot of > > > information stored in the Rasi chart itself coupled with Navamsha > to > > > make a really good prediction. I am very much impressed by a > > > statement made by the eminent astrologer Sri KN Rao; that if you > > > read the same principle again and again and apply your knowledge, > > > you will discover something that you did not find before. > > > > > > What appears apparently, in fact, is hiding some detail, which is > to > > > be uncovered by the astrologers. Take a principle and apply it > > > directly and with some variations, to a number of charts, and > > > finally you will uncover what the principle is actually hinting, > > > and how the variations are applicable. This is what Sri KN Rao > terms > > > as 'using a principle with confidence'. > > > > > > This itself shows his depth of knowledge. My sincere advice to > > > aspiring new astrologers is not to ignore the teachings of Sri KN > > > Rao. If you read his books and articles you will know how exactly > he > > > applies his methodology, and what is his real depth of experience. > > > > > > In fact, it is not correct to say that LL is bad everywhere > except > > > in Lagna. Also I read somewhere written by a popular astrologer > that > > > Lagna Lord is like Sun and wherever he is placed the fire goes to > > > that house. This is a very wrong approach to spread this > principle > > > in isolation. Dr BV Raman's book on 'How to judge a horosocope' > > > clearly mentions Lagna Lord's best position is the 9th house. He > has > > > mentioned it with authority. We have to understand these > statements > > > properly. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Satya > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "pnrazdan" > <pnrazdan> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think this and other mails on this subject are a sufficient > eye > > > > opener for those who say that LL is bad anywhere it is, except > > > when it > > > > is in its own house- something contrary to traditional > > > astrological > > > > wisdom. > > > > Pran Razdan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > > > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > > > Thank you for nice feedback. May God bless your father. You > > > guessed the > > > > > purpose for asking question correctly. You are also right > that a > > > > placement > > > > > cannot be seen in isolation and needs to be seen in > conjunction > > > with > > > > other > > > > > placements. > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya > Sai > > > > Kolachina > > > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 8:13 PM > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord > effects > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > I am very happy to say that I am the most benefitted among > all my > > > > siblings > > > > > (though my father never showed bias towards any of his > > > children), with > > > > > regards to taking/implementing father's advice. I have a > > > multitude of > > > > > hobbies, and I am a born artist, though I did not make art as > my > > > > profession. > > > > > When I was 16, I was a published novelist and my father > > > encouraged > > > > me for > > > > > that. My fahter taught me how to write novels and stories, > > > thought > > > > he was > > > > > not a novelist, but he was a scholar in a couple of > languages. At > > > > the age of > > > > > 17 I acted in a film (nobody could believe) and that was with > my > > > > father's > > > > > encouragement (He pushed me into the film field, but I could > not > > > > continue in > > > > > that field due to lack of opportunities and politics involved > in > > > > that field, > > > > > but I still act on the stage). From the age of 8 onwards, I > have > > > been > > > > > drawing and painting and now I am an established painter (not > > > > > professionally), and that was with my father's encouragement. > At > > > the > > > > age of > > > > > 15 I started Carnatic music > > > > > (vocal) with my father's encouragement; discontinued at that > > > time but > > > > > continued later, and now I am Carnatic classical music > singer. > > > > > When my father was 80 yrs old, he encouraged me to go abroad > for > > > > > self-development. I did not show interest since my parents > were > > > old; > > > > then he > > > > > scolded me that I was not following his advice; ultimately by > his > > > > force I > > > > > came to US (much later than my counterparts in those days). > What > > > > else can a > > > > > son expect from a father? Millions of dollars? My father has > > > formed the > > > > > strongest base for my today's social status. He knew that I > had > > > > skills in > > > > > multiple arts, and he encouraged me in every field, and he > > > wanted to > > > > see me > > > > > rise to the highest position. Professionally he made me an > > > Engineer > > > > (PG in > > > > > Engg from one of the premier institutes of India, IIT > Kharagpur). > > > > > > > > > > I am so indebted to him that I cannot repay it in this birth, > in > > > any > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > I know why you were asking this question; it is said that LL > > > placed > > > > in 9th > > > > > house will show some kind of problem related to father. But I > > > > strongly say > > > > > that many other factors need to be considered and not just > this > > > > statement > > > > > alone. Astrology is a complicated science and we should not > take > > > any > > > > single > > > > > principle standalone. > > > > > > > > > > Now my father is 93 and still healthy. He doesn't have any > health > > > > problem (I > > > > > have some health problems which he doesn't have). > > > > > > > > > > I hope I answered your question. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Satya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramesh F. > Gangaramani" > > > > > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satya, > > > > > > Can you tell us about your experiences related to father? > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Satya > Sai > > > > > Kolachina > > > > > > Monday, December 19, 2005 3:51 PM > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord > > > effects > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I can confirm the following with respect to Lagna Lord's > > > placement. > > > > > > > > > > > > My Lagna Lord is placed in the 9th house, and I have been a > > > very > > > > > lucky man > > > > > > all the time, and achieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > > > > > > 40+ yrs of life. I am the luckiest of all my siblings. My > > > wife's > > > > > > Lagna Lord is also placed in the 9th house. She is also the > > > > > luckiest of all > > > > > > her siblings. I saw a few others also, and can confirm that > > > Lagna > > > > > Lord > > > > > > placed in 9th house is in general a very good placement; in > > > fact, > > > > > some > > > > > > authorities (like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th house > is > > > the > > > > > best > > > > > > position for the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning Bhagya > > > Sthaanam > > > > > is very > > > > > > well suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > > > > > > It gives happines in different directions (not necessarily > > > money > > > > > alone). > > > > > > > > > > > > I can assure on this principle very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satya > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic- astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > > > > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned > > > members > > > > > who > > > > > > > found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect > of > > > LL > > > > > in a > > > > > > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or > > > > > other. I > > > > > > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check > > > with LL > > > > > in > > > > > > > their own chart and share their experience so that we can > > > decide > > > > > > what's > > > > > > > the experience of majority. Real experience is what > counts!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor ----------- -- > --- > > > ---- > > > > > ~--> Join > > > > > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with > hope > > > and > > > > > healing > > > > > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM > > > > > > ------------------------- -- > --- > > > ---- > > > > > -~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Harish, I know a person with Lagna lord Jupiter in 5th. The person never spent a minute on sports. I myself have LL in 12th but am not a miser but a spendthrift. And referred by all as a spendthrift. Can you tell me the source of your info. Regards, Mike vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of hphar (AT) sify (DOT) comSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:59 AMvedic astrology; jyothi_b_lakshmiCc: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Thanks to all: Lagna lord effects Hi All, Lagna lord placement in all houses were not discussed sosharing some info.. Results of Asc Lord in the followinghouses House I One has a healthy body, is normally veryindependent, though fickle minded. Enemies are easily overcome and onehas a fortunate and long life. House II One is learned, virtuous,righteous and scholarly. Builds his/her own fortune. Has to facetrouble with enemy activity. Normally is short- sighted and wearsglasses. House III One is wise, compassionate and honored. Richeswill accumulate naturally and a charitable bent of mind is assured.There may be trouble with ears. House IV Of a sensual nature, onecan at times be accused of being too lustful. Prosperity with ownefforts is assured to the person, who shall have a happydisposition, House V One is very attached to sports, amusements andspeculative activity. Children do not bring great happiness. My incurlosses from business. House VI Trouble from enemies. Both incomeand expenses are high leading to possible accumulation ofdebts. House VII This person will get married early but will becomedetached from family. There may be many enemies. If the planet lord isafflicted, income levels may be low. House VIII A clever gambler,this person will offer good advice to others. There may be apossibility of legacies from wife’s associates/family. Academicaccomplishments are indicated. There may be tendencies fordepression. House IX This will be a wealthy & fortunate person whomay be religious well spoken and well traveled. God luck will be aconstant companion. House X A self made man, this person will besuccessful in gathering name & fortune. House XI A popular personwith many friends, this will be a man/woman of good qualities. HouseXII One is easily given to anger and frustration. This person may bereferred my many as amiser. Regards, Harish jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in: > Dear Satya, Thanks for letting know yourexperience. In fact,from the charts of my friends and relatives, what I have concluded isthe same, that LL will give positive results of the bhava in which itis placed, provided it doesnt have any severe afflictions or malefic aspects. I would like to know if anybody has had oppositeresults. Regards, Jyothi --- Invedic astrology, \"Satya Sai Kolachina\" wrote: > > Dear Jyothiji, > > I can confirm the following withrespect to Lagna Lord\'s placement. > > My Lagna Lord is placed inthe9th house, and I have been a very > lucky man all the time, andachieved whatever I dreamt so far in my > 40+ yrs of life. I am theluckiest of all my siblings. My wife\'s > Lagna Lord is also placed inthe 9th house. She is also the luckiest > of all her siblings. I sawa few others also, and can confirm that > Lagna Lord placed in 9thhouse is in general a very good placement; > in fact, some authorities(like Dr BV Raman) say that LL in the 9th > house is the best positionfor the Lagna Lord. The 9th house meaning > Bhagya Sthaanam is verywell suited for LL placed in the 9th house. > It gives happines indifferent directions (not necessarily money > alone). > > I canassure on this principle very much. > > Regards, > Satya > > ---In vedic astrology, \"jyothi_b_lakshmi\" > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I whole heartedly thank all the learned members who > >found time to share their knowledge regarding the effect of LL in a > > bhava. All the mails were really informative in one way or other. I > > feel we can learn much better if the members cross check withLL in > > their own chart and share their experience so that we candecide > what\'s > > the experience of majority. Real experience iswhat counts!! > > > > Thanks to all once again. > > > > > >Regards, > > jyothi > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern daydisciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope andhealing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Groupinfo: vedic astrology/info.html ToUNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail tovedic astrology- ........ May Jupiter\'s lightshine on us ....... || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam SriKrishnaarpanamastu || <*> To visit your groupon the web, go to: vedic astrology/ <*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology <*> Your use of Groups is subject to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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