Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Dear Jyothi Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. Allow me to share some of my understanding. Firstly, there are three types of significators (karakas) considered in Jyotish: 1) Naisargik (natural) karakas 2) Sthira (fixed) karakas 3) Chara (temporal) karakas When considering the eight chara karaka scheme, we are considering something temporal based on degrees. [Paräsara: BPHS 34.13-15] What are the lessons of the Jivaatman before reaching the Parmatman? Since Ketu is Mokshakaraka, it is excluded from the Chara Karaka scheme. I hope this helps. Best wishes, Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > I would like to know if Ketu will not be considered as > > AK/AmK/PK/BK etc. and if not why. When I checked JHora, all the > sample > > horoscopes, (and whenever one enters any new data), Ketu does not > > become any Karaka even if it is having an advanced longitude. Only > Rahu > > is being considered in the series of karakas depending upon the > degree. > > Is there any reason for this? > > > > Learned members please help to clear the doubt. > > > > > > Regards, > > Jyothi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear Nitin, Can you please explain furthur? The reason that ketu is moksha karaka doesnt seem to me like a satisfactory one. If Ketu can be included in the list of Naisargik/fixed karakas why not Temporal karakas? By temporary is it meant the temporary aspects of a being or is it because of position of planets at ones brith time? Regards, jyothi vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear Jyothi Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > > Allow me to share some of my understanding. > > Firstly, there are three types of significators (karakas) considered > in Jyotish: > > 1) Naisargik (natural) karakas > 2) Sthira (fixed) karakas > 3) Chara (temporal) karakas > > When considering the eight chara karaka scheme, we are considering > something temporal based on degrees. > [Paräsara: BPHS 34.13-15] > > What are the lessons of the Jivaatman before reaching the Parmatman? > > Since Ketu is Mokshakaraka, it is excluded from the Chara Karaka scheme. > > I hope this helps. > > Best wishes, > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > I would like to know if Ketu will not be considered as > > > AK/AmK/PK/BK etc. and if not why. When I checked JHora, all the > > sample > > > horoscopes, (and whenever one enters any new data), Ketu does not > > > become any Karaka even if it is having an advanced longitude. Only > > Rahu > > > is being considered in the series of karakas depending upon the > > degree. > > > Is there any reason for this? > > > > > > Learned members please help to clear the doubt. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Jyotish Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. Allow me to share som eof my understanding... As Chara karakas, there are lessons for the Jivatman to overcome or experience before merging with the parmatman. If you are liberated, you are not Jivatman... Nitin. P.S. Did you look at the reference given in BPHS? || Namah Shivaaya || vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Dear Nitin, > > > Can you please explain furthur? The reason that ketu is > moksha karaka doesnt seem to me like a satisfactory one. If Ketu can > be included in the list of Naisargik/fixed karakas why not Temporal > karakas? > By temporary is it meant the temporary aspects of a being or is it > because of position of planets at ones brith time? > > > Regards, > jyothi > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> > wrote: > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding. > > > > Firstly, there are three types of significators (karakas) considered > > in Jyotish: > > > > 1) Naisargik (natural) karakas > > 2) Sthira (fixed) karakas > > 3) Chara (temporal) karakas > > > > When considering the eight chara karaka scheme, we are considering > > something temporal based on degrees. > > [Paräsara: BPHS 34.13-15] > > > > What are the lessons of the Jivaatman before reaching the > Parmatman? > > > > Since Ketu is Mokshakaraka, it is excluded from the Chara Karaka > scheme. > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Best wishes, > > Nitin. > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know if Ketu will not be considered > as > > > > AK/AmK/PK/BK etc. and if not why. When I checked JHora, all the > > > sample > > > > horoscopes, (and whenever one enters any new data), Ketu does > not > > > > become any Karaka even if it is having an advanced longitude. > Only > > > Rahu > > > > is being considered in the series of karakas depending upon the > > > degree. > > > > Is there any reason for this? > > > > > > > > Learned members please help to clear the doubt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jyothi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear nitin, Pls tell where I can find the reference (BPHS). Is there any online reference? Regards, Jyothi vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Jyotish Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > > Allow me to share som eof my understanding... > > As Chara karakas, there are lessons for the Jivatman to overcome or > experience before merging with the parmatman. > > If you are liberated, you are not Jivatman... > > Nitin. > P.S. Did you look at the reference given in BPHS? > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Dear Nitin, > > > > > > Can you please explain furthur? The reason that ketu is > > moksha karaka doesnt seem to me like a satisfactory one. If Ketu can > > be included in the list of Naisargik/fixed karakas why not Temporal > > karakas? > > By temporary is it meant the temporary aspects of a being or is it > > because of position of planets at ones brith time? > > > > > > Regards, > > jyothi > > > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > > > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding. > > > > > > Firstly, there are three types of significators (karakas) considered > > > in Jyotish: > > > > > > 1) Naisargik (natural) karakas > > > 2) Sthira (fixed) karakas > > > 3) Chara (temporal) karakas > > > > > > When considering the eight chara karaka scheme, we are considering > > > something temporal based on degrees. > > > [Paräsara: BPHS 34.13-15] > > > > > > What are the lessons of the Jivaatman before reaching the > > Parmatman? > > > > > > Since Ketu is Mokshakaraka, it is excluded from the Chara Karaka > > scheme. > > > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Nitin. > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know if Ketu will not be considered > > as > > > > > AK/AmK/PK/BK etc. and if not why. When I checked JHora, all the > > > > sample > > > > > horoscopes, (and whenever one enters any new data), Ketu does > > not > > > > > become any Karaka even if it is having an advanced longitude. > > Only > > > > Rahu > > > > > is being considered in the series of karakas depending upon the > > > > degree. > > > > > Is there any reason for this? > > > > > > > > > > Learned members please help to clear the doubt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Jyothi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Namaste Jyothi ji , Please do refer the following link : http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/02/karakas-i.html Thanks , Sriram. vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Dear nitin, > > Pls tell where I can find the reference (BPHS). Is there any > online reference? > > Regards, > Jyothi > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> > wrote: > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > Jyotish Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > > > > Allow me to share som eof my understanding... > > > > As Chara karakas, there are lessons for the Jivatman to overcome or > > experience before merging with the parmatman. > > > > If you are liberated, you are not Jivatman... > > > > Nitin. > > P.S. Did you look at the reference given in BPHS? > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nitin, > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain furthur? The reason that ketu is > > > moksha karaka doesnt seem to me like a satisfactory one. If Ketu > can > > > be included in the list of Naisargik/fixed karakas why not > Temporal > > > karakas? > > > By temporary is it meant the temporary aspects of a being or is > it > > > because of position of planets at ones brith time? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > jyothi > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > > > > > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding. > > > > > > > > Firstly, there are three types of significators (karakas) > considered > > > > in Jyotish: > > > > > > > > 1) Naisargik (natural) karakas > > > > 2) Sthira (fixed) karakas > > > > 3) Chara (temporal) karakas > > > > > > > > When considering the eight chara karaka scheme, we are > considering > > > > something temporal based on degrees. > > > > [Paräsara: BPHS 34.13-15] > > > > > > > > What are the lessons of the Jivaatman before reaching the > > > Parmatman? > > > > > > > > Since Ketu is Mokshakaraka, it is excluded from the Chara > Karaka > > > scheme. > > > > > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Nitin. > > > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know if Ketu will not be > considered > > > as > > > > > > AK/AmK/PK/BK etc. and if not why. When I checked JHora, all > the > > > > > sample > > > > > > horoscopes, (and whenever one enters any new data), Ketu > does > > > not > > > > > > become any Karaka even if it is having an advanced > longitude. > > > Only > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > is being considered in the series of karakas depending upon > the > > > > > degree. > > > > > > Is there any reason for this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Learned members please help to clear the doubt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jyothi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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