To Pradeep: Mooladhaara in Moola

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Dear Pradeep,

 

 

There was a reference to Moola and Mooladhara, though

little bit vague, in a book which I came to read recently. As it is

impossible to quote the entire text as such, let me share it as I

have understood. The context was connecting the Dakshinayana of sun

with yogic body.

 

The sun starts the south ward journey(Dakshinayana, ie.Cn-Sag), by

transiting into Cancer and continues to descend till it reaches the

lowest point (neecha) of moon,Scorpio. Therefore when the breath

reaches the Mooladhara in its downward journey, it reaches the

position of sun in Dakshinayana at the lowest point in Scorpio. This

connects the fixed star mula with Mooladhara.

 

Now, this is what I understood on reading it - The sun's journey is

compared to the breath, and the point where sun stops dakshinayana

and starts uttarayana, marks the mooladhara. This junction

corresponds to moola in Sagittarius(or end of scorpio) which is

between scorpio and capricorn.

I donno if my understanding is correct. Please correct if I am

wrong.

 

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Vishnu Namaste

>

> Except for the one provided by you,all that i have read so far are

placing Akula at the top.This need not make your view wrong -

respecting your tradition.But the other views will certainly prevent

me from reaching a conclusion.For example see Kanchi Kamakoti view.

>

> ''The steps of the Mehru are correlated with the chakras in the

body during nyaasa, as well as in antaryaaga. Different traditions of

Srividya differ slightly in this. The one e.g., followed in the

Kanchi Kamakoti Kamakshi Temple, says that below Muladhara there are

two more chakras, one being called Kulasahasraara, the second

viSusaMGYa. The bhuupura (three square enclosures) then correspond to

the kula-sahasraara, the 16-dala-padma to viSusaNGYa, the 8-dala-

padma to mUlAdhAra, the 8-trikona to svAdhiSThAna,the outer 10-

trikona to maNipUra, the inner 10-trikona to anAhata, the 8-trikona

to vishuddhi, the innermost trikona to lambikAgra (situated at the

> hight of the vulva), and bindu to AGYA. The (akula)-sahasraara

corresponds to the turIya, beyond bindu''.

>

>

>

> As i am no learned enough to conclude i would refreain from taking

sides.So let Akula or Kula Sahasraras be at the top.We will come to

it later.As our topic is slightly different,these differences need

not affect our discussion.

>

> You have agreed to the following,in the mail which had defined 12

padmas.

> 1)Kundalini rises from Scorpio until Aries 2)Scorpio is the seat of

Kundalini

>

> We have seen Pramanas stating

> 1)Kundalini as between Guda and Linga and placed in the Yoni within

Mooladhara Padma 2)Mooladhara lying upside down on the face of

Sushumna

>

> Now if you do not negate these Pramanas,Kundalini has to rise from

Scorpio right?

>

> Now you are trying to shift out position of Mooladhara from

Scorpio,because of 2 chakras lying beneath.But as long as we do not

know the span of Scorpio,how can you shift it out of scorpio.

>

> Now Mooladhara is between Guda and Linga(Area being Perineum).

>

> Perineum :The perineum corresponds to the outlet of the pelvis. Its

deep boundaries are—in front, the pubic arch and the arcuate ligament

of the pubis; behind, the tip of the coccyx; and on either side the

inferior rami of the pubis and ischium, and the sacrotuberous

ligament. The space is somewhat lozenge-shaped and is limited on the

surface of the body by the scrotum in front, by the buttocks behind,

and laterally by the medial side of the thigh.

>

>

> Also see the following,showing good views of perinieum.

>

> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wnor/pelvis.htm

>

> When thighs and hipbones(Dhanu) are bordering perineum,how can one

deny that Moolam is not around.It is infact border of

Dhanu/Scorpio.Thus anatomical,astrological, philosophical and

classical explanations have been furnished,over the course of

discussions.It is upto your kind self to look. Inner thighsAs per

your understanding where does thigh begin.

>

> Do you still believe Dhwajadho Godordhwam is not below Linga and

above Gudam.Dhwaja has a sanskrit meaning as male or female sexual

organ.Is this area Libra?You can also see the link and decide for

yourself.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala

<jvishnu@g...> wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Sri. Pradeep,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> >

> > >>Pramana - ''Kulabhidham '' - Means having name as Kula.Thus

Kula is at bottom.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ah, so it is kulaabhidhaaM! Yes, abhidhaa can mean -

> > called,named,identified,designated.

> > It is always a good idea to give verse in ITRANS format.

> >

> >

> > Now Kula Padma is at bottom, according to YOUR interpretation of

the verse! Let

> > us see.....

> >

> >

> >

> > "Kulabhitham Suvarnabham Swayambhoolinga sangatham

> > Dwirando yathra sidhosthi dakini yathra devatha

> > Tad Padma madhyagayoni tathra kundalinee sthidha

> > Tasyordhwa SphuraTheja Kaama beejam bhramanmadam

> >

> > Now here we can find Suvarna padmam near to swayam

bhoolingam.Kundalini is

> > placed in the yoni falling in the middle.Kula is also mentioned -

if

> > Kulabhitham means without any kula you are right.If it means

Kula -

> > then Kulapadma is near to swayambhoolinga and not Akulapadma - as

per

> > this verse."

> >

> >

> > *Survanaabham means golden lustre/shine, and it is saying

Swayambhoolinga

> > is of golden lustre. Where is Suvarna padma??? *

> >

> > If one were to accept your interpretation that above verse

is "Kula padma"

> >

> > i) swayambhoolinga is in Kula padma???

> > ii) dakini is in Kula padma???

> > iii) At its (Kula padma)centre, there is yoni(downward pointing

triangle)???

> >

> > iv) Kula padma radiates(upwards) "kaama bIja"???

> > v) If all the above are in Kula padma, wonder what is there in

Mooladhaara?

> >

> > I had mentioned earlier -- padmas (other than "Akula") are

generally

> > called/named/designated (abhidhaa!) as "Kula".

> > You chose to IGNORE that guideline and consequently indulge in

> > "TWISTING" classical

> > references to aggrandize your argument.

> >

> > Above verse is "IN NO WAY" talking of "Kula Padma". It is

describing

> > "Moolaadhaara" a.k.a kulaabhidhaaM - nothing more, nothing less !

> >

> >

> >

> > > You are having Libra in mind and is not ready to change.

> >

> >

> > Bias like beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder! You hurling

such remarks

> > hasn't proved "Mooladhaara is in Dhanus", has it? Your "motivated

and

> > twisted" interpretation of classics have negated your argument.

> >

> >

> > Finally, you resorting to "twisted and motivated" interpretation

of

> > classics is reason enough not to engage you any further. I

conclude our

> > debate as below

> >

> > 1) "Mooladhaara is in moola nakshatra" is an outlandish slogan.

> >

> > 2) "Mooladhaara is in thighs" is imagination gone amok.

> >

> > 3) "Mooladhaara is in Dhanus" is cumulative effect of "twisted &

motivated"

> > interpretation of classics and poor logic.

> >

> >

> >

> > warm regards,

> > Vishnu

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Om Akhanda mandalaakaaram

> > vyaptam yena charaa charam

> > tatpadam darsita yena

> > tasmai sri gurave namah

> >

>