To DakshinamoortyWhy Ketu cannot be atmakaraka?- Query by Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi.

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DEar Ms.Jyothi,

 

Kindly consider this.....

 

In a Defence training establishment, the Commandant is the over-all

incharge. But, that does not mean he will directly take part and

oversee each and every training module of every trainee! He will have

an overview of the training and he will distribute various subjects

and portfolios for administration of the Academy to different

officers. He will retain charge of ONLY the overall supervision.

Ultimately, every cadet who is passing out of the Academy will be

familiar to the Commandant. But, generally he is NOT allocated minor

training modules as allocating minor things to him will spoil his

overall efficiency of overseeing the running and coordinating the

activities of the academy.

 

This may be a crude example. But, it is analogous to Ketu not being

given a karakatwa. By the way, I do not know if you have taken note

of the fact that I have mentioned that "EVen RAhu is not assigned a

karakatwa UNLESS there is a tie up of karakatwas between two planets

due to their attaining similar longitudes!"

 

Another thing, I do not know if you have studied BPHS. In that also

it is clearly mentioned that the karakatwas are only distributed among

the seven planets from Sun to Saturn.

 

Just as the principal of a school does not teach alphabets to the

kindergarten kids (though he is overall responsible for their

wellbeing and progress in his institution), Just as the academy

commandant does not train his cadets in everyday drills and service

classes, Ketu - the significator of Moksha does not directly assume

karakatwa in the mundane events of an individual. At the same time,

just as the Principal will monitor the progress of every student and

may even give some special lessons in rare cases, just as the Academy

commandant may help a cadet out in difficult circumstances by directly

involving himself in some aspect of training, Ketu does play a role in

many vital areas of life. You will find results attributed to

placement of Ketu in karakamsa, etc. in Jaimini's works. Of course,

in vimshottari dasa of Parasari system, Ketu is alloted his periods.

But, all these logical reasonings are in a way blasphemous according

to me. These may imply that we deem the rishi pramanas are defective

in some way. I will tell you one thing.... It is more important to

make things work rather than trying to nitpick and find WHY they work,

if everything is perfect. Astrology of the seers - in my humble

opinion- has been derived after intense study, research, and above all

after intense tapasyas which ordinary mortals of this present age can

never hope to attain!

 

One suggestion to you please..... Research should be done ONLY after

you have thoroughly acquainted yourself with the classics. Ketu, or

for that matter, any planet is not superior to one or the other....

They all have certain portfolios over certain areas of our lives.

Ketu does not directly grant Gnana or moksha to anybody. It is only

Divine Grace that can lift and save a person from the endless cycle of

birth and death. Astrology only shows the way.... It is not THE WAY.

Ketu only facilitates acquisition of gnana, he does not GRANT gnana.

Every planet has its own role to play on the psyche of an individual

so that he evolves as a complete human being.

 

Mundane events, though they seem important to us from our earthly

views, are not all that important from a spiritual point of view. In

the path of siddhas and great Gnanis, even Sins or Merits have no

place. All karmas (Whether good or bad) are hindrances for eventual

liberation of the soul. As Lord Krishna says in Bhagavat Gita "Burn

away all your sins with the Fire of Wisdom". Lives of many great

gnanis will show you that they have transcended the plane of the

planetary influences. Planets control your destiny only as long as

you are under karmic bonds. Jeevanmuktas are not bound or influenced

by planets!

 

Blessed be.vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

>

> Shall I share some more thoughts which arose on reading

> your mail? The reason that ketu is a Moksha karaka and it is not

> significant for mundane gains, as I said seems a bit unsatisfactory.

> Now I will say why I feel so. A person when born, is not by default

a

> jeevanmukta. He is gradually or step by step attaining that state.

> And as far as I have understood, Ketu plays a very significant role

> in catalysing one to reach that state by creating detachment,

> obstacles or whatever it is. In short, Ketu is the planet which

> pushes one to that state. Unless there is somebody to guide (be it

by

> pressurising or in a smooth way), the state is not reached. And till

> the state is reached isnt such a catalysing factor essential? And if

> Ketu does that job perfectly, why is still excluded?

>

> Exclusion of Ketu seems like Ketu doesnt have any significance

> in ones life time. Also it seems as if moksha is something separate

> from the life,something which cannot be connected to the life.

>

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

> vedic astrology, dakshinamoorthi r

> <dakshinastrologer> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi,

> >

> > Even Rahu cannot become a karaka unless there is a tie

> > up between two planets for a karakatwa thereby leaving

> > some karakatwa vacant by Jaimini Muni Pramana.

> >

> > I will quote Adhyaya 1 Pada 1 Sutra 11 for your

> > reference:

> >

> > "Aathmadikah kalaadibhirna bhogah saptaanaam

> > ashtaanaamva"

> >

> > meaning of the seven planets from Sun to Saturn, or

> > the eight planets from Sun to Rahu, whichever get the

> > highest number of degrees becomes the atmakaraka.

> >

> > Another point you should note is that Rahu and Ketu

> > are deemed to have got higher number of degrees in the

> > reverse order ( I mean to say, subtract the longitude

> > of Rahu from 30 deg. The resultant is to be taken as

> > the degrees attained by Rahu for the purpose of

> > determining whether it has got more degrees or not).

> > This is my view which was corroborated also by Dr.

> > B.V.RAMAN of revered memory (Ofcourse you must be

> > aware of that Great Man!).

> >

> > These are axioms not theorems. (Mathematics students

> > will know it. An axiom is a First principle that is

> > assumed to be true and that cannot be proved as

> > opposed to a theorem for which a logical proof can be

> > derived).

> >

> > Though I appreciate your enthusiasm and research bent

> > of mind, kindly differentiate between an axiom and a

> > theory while discussing these topics.

> >

> > Another point is interesting to note. Even in Prasna

> > shastra (in ashtamangala prasna) only eight planets

> > are included (excluding Ketu) while deriving various

> > significations. The savants must have had their own

> > reasons for that.

> >

> > Or, may be as Ketu is a significator for ultimate

> > realization and final emancipation and Eternal Wisdom,

> > he may not have a portfolio for mundane events. For

> > instance, you cannot have an ascetic as a head of a

> > charitable trust! (Though you see Godmen managing

> > ashrams and other grand things, it is against the

> > basic tenet of real ascetism. Lord Dattatreya -

> > considered to be the adi guru of ascetism says that

> > even the company of 2 persons may lead to unnecessary

> > words and strife and deviate one from the real Goal of

> > Realization). This is only my humble logic which

> > ofcourse may not be correct. The rishis would have

> > DEFINITELY had their own higher logics for that.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> >

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