Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Namaskaar List Members. Allow me to share some of my understanding... The Arudha Lagna(s) can me mapped to a specific degree. Refer to: Prasna Marga by respected B.V. Raman Chapter 5 Sloka 32 ....how it is used be it Rashi or Vargas is another and seperate issue..... || Namah Shivaaya || vedic astrology, "P. Kumar" <chunnu2001@v...> wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > This question haunted me too. There are many unresolved mysteries of Jyotisha. Navamsa is extremely important and we can't ignore it. Regarding Arudha lagna, we can consider it as a mere reference point and corresponding position in Navamsa may not be needed. Regarding Upapada, I feel we can calculate it for Navamsa too, separately. I got limited success with all this. > However, as per my impression, Shri K.N.Rao prefers only Rasi considerations. > > P. Kumar (Mumbai, India) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Dear List members and Pradeep Ji, Namaskaar. Software? Where does the shloka mention software? :> Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear Shri Nitin > > Thanks for this hint.I have also heard that the same degree of udaya lagna can be used as a degree of Arudha lagna. > As Arudha pada is generally found for a bhava ,rather than for a particular degree,its usages are mainly based on bhavas.Most of us uses equal division of houses,irrespective of where exactly our lagna is (degree of lagna). > > Now even if we use the degree of udaya lagna or natal lagna for arudha lagna,navamsha of that will be based on that specific degree.Thus here again we are finding the amsha from Rashi chakra. > > But in todays paractise amshas are grouped as a chakra and then an Arudha Lagna is seperately found.You can check the software.Nothing can be derived without Rashi chakra. > > VarahaMihira mentioned amshas for lagna,chandra,udaya,etc but not for Arudha. > > Thanks > Pradeep > vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > Namaskaar List Members. > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding... > > > > The Arudha Lagna(s) can me mapped to a specific degree. > > > > Refer to: > > Prasna Marga by respected B.V. Raman > > Chapter 5 > > Sloka 32 > > > > > > ...how it is used be it Rashi or Vargas is another and seperate issue..... > > > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > vedic astrology, "P. Kumar" chunnu2001@v... > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > This question haunted me too. There are many unresolved mysteries of > > Jyotisha. Navamsa is extremely important and we can't ignore it. > > Regarding Arudha lagna, we can consider it as a mere reference point > > and corresponding position in Navamsa may not be needed. Regarding > > Upapada, I feel we can calculate it for Navamsa too, separately. I got > > limited success with all this. > > > However, as per my impression, Shri K.N.Rao prefers only Rasi > > considerations. > > > > > > P. Kumar (Mumbai, India) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Dear shri Nitin Arudha lagna,Upapada lagna etc are seperately found from groups of amashas in software like JHora. I do not have the book from Dr.Raman.If the calculation is same as i have mentioned(taking the degree as that of udaya or natal),the derivation is from rashi chakra and not as done in software. Thanks Pradeep astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear List members and Pradeep Ji, Namaskaar. > > Software? Where does the shloka mention software? > :> > > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Nitin > > > > Thanks for this hint.I have also heard that the same degree of udaya > lagna can be used as a degree of Arudha lagna. > > As Arudha pada is generally found for a bhava ,rather than for a > particular degree,its usages are mainly based on bhavas.Most of us > uses equal division of houses,irrespective of where exactly our lagna > is (degree of lagna). > > > > Now even if we use the degree of udaya lagna or natal lagna for > arudha lagna,navamsha of that will be based on that specific > degree.Thus here again we are finding the amsha from Rashi chakra. > > > > But in todays paractise amshas are grouped as a chakra and then an > Arudha Lagna is seperately found.You can check the software.Nothing > can be derived without Rashi chakra. > > > > VarahaMihira mentioned amshas for lagna,chandra,udaya,etc but not > for Arudha. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > > > Namaskaar List Members. > > > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding... > > > > > > The Arudha Lagna(s) can me mapped to a specific degree. > > > > > > Refer to: > > > Prasna Marga by respected B.V. Raman > > > Chapter 5 > > > Sloka 32 > > > > > > > > > ...how it is used be it Rashi or Vargas is another and seperate > issue..... > > > > > > > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P. Kumar" chunnu2001@v... > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > This question haunted me too. There are many unresolved mysteries of > > > Jyotisha. Navamsa is extremely important and we can't ignore it. > > > Regarding Arudha lagna, we can consider it as a mere reference point > > > and corresponding position in Navamsa may not be needed. Regarding > > > Upapada, I feel we can calculate it for Navamsa too, separately. I got > > > limited success with all this. > > > > However, as per my impression, Shri K.N.Rao prefers only Rasi > > > considerations. > > > > > > > > P. Kumar (Mumbai, India) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Dear Shri Pradeep and List Members following the thread, Namaskaar. With regards to Jhora, there are 2 ways one can calculate the Arudha that I know of... 1) Specify a degree point and see where it falls in vargas (if this is what you are seeking to do) 2) Calculate the Arudha for each varga separately. How someone wishes to use these (if at all) is another matter... Best wishes, Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear shri Nitin > > Arudha lagna,Upapada lagna etc are seperately found from groups of > amashas in software like JHora. > I do not have the book from Dr.Raman.If the calculation is same as i > have mentioned(taking the degree as that of udaya or natal),the > derivation is from rashi chakra and not as done in software. > > Thanks > Pradeep > astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > Dear List members and Pradeep Ji, Namaskaar. > > > > Software? Where does the shloka mention software? > > :> > > > > Nitin. > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Nitin > > > > > > Thanks for this hint.I have also heard that the same degree of > udaya > > lagna can be used as a degree of Arudha lagna. > > > As Arudha pada is generally found for a bhava ,rather than for a > > particular degree,its usages are mainly based on bhavas.Most of us > > uses equal division of houses,irrespective of where exactly our > lagna > > is (degree of lagna). > > > > > > Now even if we use the degree of udaya lagna or natal lagna for > > arudha lagna,navamsha of that will be based on that specific > > degree.Thus here again we are finding the amsha from Rashi chakra. > > > > > > But in todays paractise amshas are grouped as a chakra and then > an > > Arudha Lagna is seperately found.You can check the software.Nothing > > can be derived without Rashi chakra. > > > > > > VarahaMihira mentioned amshas for lagna,chandra,udaya,etc but not > > for Arudha. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, "Nitin" > <astronitin> wrote: > > > > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > > > > > Namaskaar List Members. > > > > > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding... > > > > > > > > The Arudha Lagna(s) can me mapped to a specific degree. > > > > > > > > Refer to: > > > > Prasna Marga by respected B.V. Raman > > > > Chapter 5 > > > > Sloka 32 > > > > > > > > > > > > ...how it is used be it Rashi or Vargas is another and seperate > > issue..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P. Kumar" > chunnu2001@v... > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > This question haunted me too. There are many unresolved > mysteries of > > > > Jyotisha. Navamsa is extremely important and we can't ignore > it. > > > > Regarding Arudha lagna, we can consider it as a mere reference > point > > > > and corresponding position in Navamsa may not be needed. > Regarding > > > > Upapada, I feel we can calculate it for Navamsa too, > separately. I got > > > > limited success with all this. > > > > > However, as per my impression, Shri K.N.Rao prefers only Rasi > > > > considerations. > > > > > > > > > > P. Kumar (Mumbai, India) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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