twins

January 13, 2006

Two years ago I was asking here how to see differences in twins charts who are

born only 15 minutes apart. One of them is not able to get childrens.

You may find this old thread here:

vedic astrology/message/39346

Now I have another case.

Two ladies are born 4 minutes apart. And they are very different because of one

thing I will disclose later.

Do you see the differences in their charts? What their main difference is?

February 4, 19702:38 am CETHahn, Germany

another one was born 2:42

Abhi

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Abhi

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:24 PM

[vedic astrology] twins

Dear Gurus,

I met two ladies yesterday, who were born only 15 minutes apart. They look very

similar, but one of them is like leader type and is very active but another one

is more humble and passive. They have many similarities in their lives, for

example their husbands are both criminal. One of them is in a prison and

another one has been in prison before. Both ladies are also trying to progress

on the path of bhakti. But those ladies also have at least one VERY, VERY big

difference in their lives.

Western astrology doesn't see practically any differences in their charts. I am

wondering how vedic astrologers are seeing the differences in their charts. I

found following statement from the "Astrology of the seers":

HARMONIC SIXTIETHThis is the most subtle of the harmonic charts and often used

in the case of twins. It is used for the subtlest fine-tuning of planetary

effects.

Can anyone please comment? Are there any more methods for twins case or can

anyone explain what differences he can see in those charts?

After that I would like to disclose what this VERY big difference in their lives is.

BIRTHDATA:

month 3day 23year 1975time 11.000000zone -3.00000028 E 1259 N 23Asc 19 GEM 14

(Krishnamurti ayanamsa)

another one is born 11:15

Thank You very much,

Abhi

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So, it seems that twins are really hard case for us. Is there any way to see the

differences between twins born 4 minutes apart?

Here we have two ladies.

One was born:

February 4, 19702:38 am CETHahn, Germany

another one was born 2:42 and she is autistic.

Their charts have practically no differences at all. Is there anyone who has any

idea how to see thier differences from charts?

Abhi

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Abhi

vedic astrology

Friday, January 13, 2006 3:05 PM

[vedic astrology] twins

Two years ago I was asking here how to see differences in twins charts who are

born only 15 minutes apart. One of them is not able to get childrens.

You may find this old thread here:

vedic astrology/message/39346

Now I have another case.

Two ladies are born 4 minutes apart. And they are very different because of one

thing I will disclose later.

Do you see the differences in their charts? What their main difference is?

February 4, 19702:38 am CETHahn, Germany

another one was born 2:42

Abhi

-

Abhi

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:24 PM

[vedic astrology] twins

Dear Gurus,

I met two ladies yesterday, who were born only 15 minutes apart. They look very

similar, but one of them is like leader type and is very active but another one

is more humble and passive. They have many similarities in their lives, for

example their husbands are both criminal. One of them is in a prison and

another one has been in prison before. Both ladies are also trying to progress

on the path of bhakti. But those ladies also have at least one VERY, VERY big

difference in their lives.

Western astrology doesn't see practically any differences in their charts. I am

wondering how vedic astrologers are seeing the differences in their charts. I

found following statement from the "Astrology of the seers":

HARMONIC SIXTIETHThis is the most subtle of the harmonic charts and often used

in the case of twins. It is used for the subtlest fine-tuning of planetary

effects.

Can anyone please comment? Are there any more methods for twins case or can

anyone explain what differences he can see in those charts?

After that I would like to disclose what this VERY big difference in their lives is.

BIRTHDATA:

month 3day 23year 1975time 11.000000zone -3.00000028 E 1259 N 23Asc 19 GEM 14

(Krishnamurti ayanamsa)

another one is born 11:15

Thank You very much,

Abhi

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January 16, 2006

">[vedic astrology] twinsTwo years ago I was asking here how to see

differences in twins charts who are born only 15 minutes apart. One of them is

not able to get childrens. You may find this old thread

here:vedic astrology/message/39346 Now I have

another case. Two ladies are born 4 minutes apart. And they are very different

because of one thing I will disclose later.Do you see the differences in their

charts? What their main difference is? February 4, 19702:38 am CETHahn,

Germanyanother one was born 2:42 Abhi -

Abhi vedic astrology Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:24

PM[vedic astrology] twinsDear Guru

s, I met two ladies yesterday, who were born only 15 minutes apart. They look

very similar, but one of them is like leader type and is very active but

another one is more humble and passive. They have many similarities in their

lives, for example their husbands are both criminal. One of them is in a prison

and another one has been in prison before. Both ladies are also trying to

progress on the path of bhakti. But those ladies also have at least one VERY,

VERY big difference in their lives. Western astrology doesn't see practically

any differences in their charts. I am wondering how vedic astrologers are

seeing the differences in their charts. I found following statement from the

"Astrology of the seers": HARMONIC SIXTIETHThis is the most subtle of the

harmon!

ic charts and often used in the case of twins. It is used for the subtlest

fine-tuning of planetary effects. Can anyone please comment? Are there any more

methods for twins case or can anyone explain what differences he can see in

those charts?After that I would like to disclose what this VERY big difference

in their lives is. BIRTHDATA: month 3day 23year 1975time 11.000000zone

-3.00000028 E 1259 N 23Asc 19 GEM 14 (Krishnamurti ayanamsa) another one is

born 11:15 Thank You very much,Abhi _/o_ Archives:

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Dear Abhiji:

Naadiamsa (dividing the rasi into 150 parts) analysis will show the

difference in results for such cases. One must have been born in a

good nadiamsa while the afflicted one must have been born in a

different nadiamsa. This is the most accurate way of analysing the

difference in the results.

However, not much is known about all the nadiamsas. Even Chandra Kala

Nadi (popularly known as Deva Keralam) alludes to only select nadiamsa

results and does not cover all the nadiamsa predictions. So,you will

have to be satisfied with only the popular divisional charts. As the

difference in birth time is only 4 minutes, even navamsa will be the

same for such cases. Only divisional charts of higher harmonics than

16 will be different. Studying these charts will be educative.

Blessed be.

vedic astrology, "Abhi" <aak@m...> wrote:

>

> So, it seems that twins are really hard case for us. Is there any

way to see the differences between twins born 4 minutes apart?

>

> Here we have two ladies.

>

> One was born:

> February 4, 1970

> 2:38 am CET

> Hahn, Germany

>

> another one was born 2:42 and she is autistic.

>

> Their charts have practically no differences at all. Is there anyone

who has any idea how to see thier differences from charts?

>

> Abhi

>

> -

> Abhi

> vedic astrology

> Friday, January 13, 2006 3:05 PM

> [vedic astrology] twins

>

> Two years ago I was asking here how to see differences in twins

charts who are born only 15 minutes apart. One of them is not able to

get childrens.

>

> You may find this old thread here:

> vedic astrology/message/39346

>

> Now I have another case.

>

> Two ladies are born 4 minutes apart. And they are very different

because of one thing I will disclose later.

> Do you see the differences in their charts? What their main

difference is?

>

> February 4, 1970

> 2:38 am CET

> Hahn, Germany

>

> another one was born 2:42

>

> Abhi

>

> -

> Abhi

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:24 PM

> [vedic astrology] twins

>

> Dear Gurus,

>

> I met two ladies yesterday, who were born only 15 minutes apart.

They look very similar, but one of them is like leader type and is

very active but another one is more humble and passive. They have many

similarities in their lives, for example their husbands are both

criminal. One of them is in a prison and another one has been in

prison before. Both ladies are also trying to progress on the path of

bhakti. But those ladies also have at least one VERY, VERY big

difference in their lives.

>

> Western astrology doesn't see practically any differences in

their charts. I am wondering how vedic astrologers are seeing the

differences in their charts. I found following statement from the

"Astrology of the seers":

>

> HARMONIC SIXTIETH

> This is the most subtle of the harmonic charts and often used in

the case of twins. It is used for the subtlest fine-tuning of

planetary effects.

>

> Can anyone please comment? Are there any more methods for twins

case or can anyone explain what differences he can see in those

charts?

> After that I would like to disclose what this VERY big

difference in their lives is.

>

> BIRTHDATA:

>

> month 3

> day 23

> year 1975

> time 11.000000

> zone -3.000000

> 28 E 12

> 59 N 23

> Asc 19 GEM 14 (Krishnamurti ayanamsa)

>

> another one is born 11:15

>

> Thank You very much,

> Abhi

>

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very different because of one thing I will disclose later. Do you see the

differences in their charts? What their main difference is? February 4,

19702:38 am CETHahn, Germany another one was born 2:42 Abhi -----

Original Message ----- Abhi vedic astrology Sent:

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:24 PM [vedic astrology] twins Dear Gurus,

I met two ladies yesterday, who were born only 15 minutes apart. They look very

similar, but one of them is like leader type and is very active but another one

is more humble and passive. They have many similarities in their lives, for

example their husbands are both criminal. One of them is in a prison and

another one has been in prison before. Both ladies are also trying to progress

on the path of bhakti. But those ladies also have at least one VERY, VERY big

difference in their lives. Western astrology doesn't see practically any

differences in their charts. I am wondering how vedic astrologers are seeing

the differences in their charts. I found following statement from the

"Astrology of the seers": HARMONIC SIXTIETHThis is the most subtle of the

harmonic charts and often used in the case of twins. It is used for the

subtlest fine-tuning of planetary effects. Can anyone please comment? Are

there any more methods for twins case or can anyone explain what differences he

can see in those charts? After that I would like to disclose what this VERY big

difference in their lives is. BIRTHDATA: month

3day 23year 1975time 11.000000zone -3.00000028 E 1259 N 23Asc 19 GEM 14

(Krishnamurti ayanamsa) another one is born 11:15 Thank You very much,

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Dear Abhi ,

Will you please give the following information about these two charts ?

Coordinates for Hahn Germany . Their ascendant degrees and moon positions .

Ayanamsha that you are using .

Regards ,

Anand

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Monday, January 16, 2006 4:09 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] twins

>

> Hi Abhi,

>

> you were born in Germany. Therefore, I would like to bring to your

attention, that a very famous German astrologer, Mrs Edith Wangemann of

Kosmobiological Society, scholar of famous Frank Glahn, studied the charts

of twins for many decades and published on it.

>

> Kind regards

>

> Ma Bodhi Tabdar

>

> vedic astrology schrieb am 16.01.06 11:30:42:

>

> So, it seems that twins are really hard case for us. Is there any way to

see the differences between twins born 4 minutes apart? Here we have two

ladies. One was born:February 4, 1970

> 2:38 am CET

> Hahn, Germany

> another one was born 2:42 and she is autistic. Their charts have

practically no differences at all. Is there anyone who has any idea how to

see thier differences from charts? Abhi -

Abhi vedic astrology Friday, January 13, 2006 3:05

PM[vedic astrology] twins

> Two years ago I was asking here how to see differences in twins charts who

are born only 15 minutes apart. One of them is not able to get childrens.

You may find this old thread

here:vedic astrology/message/39346 Now I have

another case. Two ladies are born 4 minutes apart. And they are very

different because of one thing I will disclose later.Do you see the

differences in their charts? What their main difference is? February 4, 1970

> 2:38 am CET

> Hahn, Germany

> another one was born 2:42 Abhi - Abhi To:

vedic astrology Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:24

PM[vedic astrology] twins

> Dear Gurus, I met two ladies yesterday, who were born only 15 minutes

apart. They look very similar, but one of them is like leader type and is

very active but another one is more humble and passive. They have many

similarities in their lives, for example their husbands are both criminal.

One of them is in a prison and another one has been in prison before. Both

ladies are also trying to progress on the path of bhakti. But those ladies

also have at least one VERY, VERY big difference in their lives. Western

astrology doesn't see practically any differences in their charts. I am

wondering how vedic astrologers are seeing the differences in their charts.

I found following statement from the "Astrology of the seers": HARMONIC

January 17, 2006

Hahn, Germany is located at 50n31, 7e53

with Lahiri ayanamsa first sister gets ASC at 0-42 Scorpio and Moon at 19-44 Sagittarius

second sister gets ASC at 1-25 Scorpio and Moon at 19-46 Sagittarius.

Abhi

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Anan

vedic astrology

Monday, January 16, 2006 5:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] twins

Dear Abhi ,Will you please give the following information about these two charts

?Coordinates for Hahn Germany . Their ascendant degrees and moon positions

..Ayanamsha that you are using .Regards ,AnandA. K. GhuryeMobile : 9820 489 416

Phone : 2685 5496 email :

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<vedic astrology>Monday, January 16, 2006 4:09 PMSubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] twins>> Hi Abhi,>> you were born in Germany. Therefore, I

would like to bring to yourattention, that a very famous German astrologer, Mrs

Edith Wangemann ofKosmobiological Society, scholar of famous Frank Glahn,

studied the chartsof twins for many decades and published on it.>> Kind

regards>> Ma Bodhi Tabdar>> vedic astrology schrieb am 16.01.06

11:30:42:>>>> So, it seems that twins are really hard case for us. Is there any

way tosee the differences between twins born 4 minutes apart? Here we have

twoladies. One was born:February 4, 1970> 2:38 am CET> Hahn, Germany> another

one was born 2:42 and she is autistic. Their charts havepractically no

differences at all. Is there anyone who has any idea how tosee thier

differences from charts? Abhi - Abhi To:

vedic astrology Friday, January 13, 2006 3:05PMSubject:

[vedic astrology] twins> Two years ago I was asking here how to see differences

in twins charts whoare born only 15 minutes apart. One of them is not able to

get childrens.You may find this old

threadhere:vedic astrology/message/39346 Now I

haveanother case. Two ladies are born 4 minutes apart. And they are

verydifferent because of one thing I will disclose later.Do you see

thedifferences in their charts? What their main difference is? February 4,

1970> 2:38 am CET> Hahn, Germany> another one was born 2:42 Abhi ----- Original

Message ----- Abhi To:vedic astrology Tuesday, March

23, 2004 8:24PM[vedic astrology] twins> Dear Gurus, I met two ladies

yesterday, who were born only 15 minutesapart. They look very similar, but one

of them is like leader type and isvery active but another one is more humble

and passive. They have manysimilarities in their lives, for example their

husbands are both criminal.One of them is in a prison and another one has been

in prison before. Bothladies are also trying to progress on the path of bhakti.

But those ladiesalso have at least one VERY, VERY big difference in their lives.

Westernastrology doesn't see practically any differences in their charts. I

amwondering how vedic astrologers are seeing the differences in their charts.I

found following statement from the "Astrology of the seers": HARMONIC

January 18, 2006

Dear Abhi ,

See the dasha sequence for the twins .

1 .Venus Rahu Ravi For the first of the twins

2 Venus Rahu Moon for the second of the twins

Now if we take the house sequence for them based on this dasha sequence

without considering drishti )

we have

1. 2 7 12 /4 6 3 / 3 10

2. 2 7 12 /4 6 3 / 2 9

The dasha and antardasha are showing the general and particular environment

which is same for both but the pratyantar dasha is showing their leanings .

The first one as you said should be the leader type the second one family

oriented . The second one is also likely to inherit family / hereditary

diseases .

I need to add this though , that only when the two charts are presented to

me as twins and find the difference kind , I am saying what I am saying

above . Had one of them come to me with her chart ? ..... Hmm.

I feel the special cases have to be treated as special cases and need not

be confused with the general . I do not feel that these are the cases which

prove or disprove astrology . I am saying this for two reasons . When we are

erecting a horoscope it is the symbolic representation of time alone or

rather we are taking the time division alone whereas it is division of time

and space . Thus we are leaving one borderline condition . This I believe we

try to make up by looking at the jatak when we meet him or her . For example

say you have a horoscope without any degrees for planets and you see that

mars is in the ascendant but the person is quite mild mannered , you may

tentatively say that mars is not very near to the ascendant and would be

quite right .

The second reason is that in a horoscope we need to provide special

attention to the upachaya houses . These are the houses which are going to

build our career or otherwise . In this case broad guideline is more than

sufficient .

Let me know your views on the same .

Wish you very happy Makar Sankraman !

Regards ,

Anand

A. K. Ghurye

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Abhi <aak

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:04 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] twins

Hahn, Germany is located at 50n31, 7e53

with Lahiri ayanamsa first sister gets ASC at 0-42 Scorpio and Moon at 19-44

Sagittarius

second sister gets ASC at 1-25 Scorpio and Moon at 19-46 Sagittarius.

Abhi

-

Anan

vedic astrology

Monday, January 16, 2006 5:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] twins

Dear Abhi ,

Will you please give the following information about these two charts ?

Coordinates for Hahn Germany . Their ascendant degrees and moon positions

..

Ayanamsha that you are using .

Regards ,

Anand

A. K. Ghurye

Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha

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<JupitersDelight

Monday, January 16, 2006 4:09 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] twins

>

> Hi Abhi,

>

> you were born in Germany. Therefore, I would like to bring to your

attention, that a very famous German astrologer, Mrs Edith Wangemann of

Kosmobiological Society, scholar of famous Frank Glahn, studied the charts

of twins for many decades and published on it.

>

> Kind regards

>

> Ma Bodhi Tabdar

>

> vedic astrology schrieb am 16.01.06 11:30:42:

>

> So, it seems that twins are really hard case for us. Is there any way to

see the differences between twins born 4 minutes apart? Here we have two

ladies. One was born:February 4, 1970

> 2:38 am CET

> Hahn, Germany

> another one was born 2:42 and she is autistic. Their charts have

practically no differences at all. Is there anyone who has any idea how to

see thier differences from charts? Abhi -

Abhi vedic astrology Friday, January 13, 2006

3:05

PM[vedic astrology] twins

> Two years ago I was asking here how to see differences in twins charts

who

are born only 15 minutes apart. One of them is not able to get childrens.

You may find this old thread

here:vedic astrology/message/39346 Now I

have

another case. Two ladies are born 4 minutes apart. And they are very

different because of one thing I will disclose later.Do you see the

differences in their charts? What their main difference is? February 4,

1970

> 2:38 am CET

> Hahn, Germany

> another one was born 2:42 Abhi - Abhi

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