Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Dear Renuji: The placement of Mars in two horoscopes is compared with respect to the houses in which it is placed. Yes, in this case the house position is also considered important for "dosha samya". There is a belief that even if there is exemption to Mars Dosha in a horoscope, the matching should be done only with a horoscope that has similar cancellation of yoga rather than with a "Shuddha jataka" (a horoscope in which there is no mars dosha condition at all). In these cases, the house position is also taken into consideration and there are astrologers who consider that Mars in 4th horoscope should be matched only with another horoscope that has Mars in 4th and so on. I do not give much credulence to this view personally. I feel when Maharishis like Narada have given exemption to Mars dosha in a horoscope, then it must be considered that the horoscope is a "Shudda Jataka" and not an afflicted horoscope. Ofcourse, these are vexed issues in astrology and even experts are divided on these issues. Blessed be. vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw> wrote: > > > Dear Dakshinamoorthiji, > > Thak you sir, for clearing my doubt. I asked this question because I > have read in a Sinhala [my mother tongue] Astrological book it was > mentioned that even the house/house placement is countable with > relevant to Mars/Venus placement in 2 horoscopes. > > Blessings > > Renu > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > They are not the same. The number of the house will vary depending > > upon the ascendant of the horoscopes. Whereas the signs are the > same > > for all horoscopes. So, if Mars in one horoscope is in the same > HOUSE > > as venus in the other horoscope, it means nothing except in cases > when > > the ascendant of both horoscopes is the same. > > > > Blessed be.vedic astrology, "renunw" > <renunw@y > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > > > If Mars in one horoscope is in the > > > HOUSE occupied by Venus in the other, is as the same as Mars in > one > > > horoscope is in the SIGN occuoied by Venus in the other. > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Pankaj: > > > > > > > > 1) If mars and Venus are in angular or trinal position, that > is > > > > preferable even than the actual conjunction in synastry > (Synastry > > > > means the combined horoscope in which the planetary positions > of > > > two > > > > persons are compared). Because, if Mars in one horoscope is in > > the > > > > sign occupied by Venus in the other, it may be a match in which > > > > infatuation rather than actual soul compatibility may dominate > > > which > > > > ofcourse is not the most desirable pattern of relationship. > > > > > > > > 2) The mutual placement of lagna lords in each other's > horoscopes > > > > should also be preferably in favourable aspects like trinal > > > position. > > > > If there is a square aspect between them, then it means the > couple > > > > will complement each other and to an extent enjoy a > relationship > > in > > > > which one partner reforms or checks the undesirable > > characteristics > > > of > > > > the other. > > > > > > > > 3) Actually comparing the position of Jupiter and Venus is the > > > better > > > > approach. When I was commenting on Mars and Venus positions, > it > > > was > > > > about the factor of physical attraction playing a role in the > > > > partnership. Jupiter/Venus position comparison denotes soul > > > > compatibility which is the actual goal of a Dharmic marriage > where > > > the > > > > male and female principles should merge, synchronize and edify > > each > > > > other for the welfare of selves and the society. > > > > > > > > 4) If Sun in one horoscope is in a sign occupied by moon in > the > > > other > > > > horoscope, it is a good indicator of mental compatibility where > > the > > > > goals and aspirations of the couple may be along the same lines > > and > > > > they will feel a emotionally satisfying relationship. > > > > > > > > 5) When the boy and girl are of the same nakshatra, rajju > > > > compatibility which is mandatory will not be there. For > instance > > > if > > > > both the stars are in udhara rajju (stomach), it is believed to > > > harm > > > > progenic happiness; if they are in kanda rajju (neck), it > spoils > > > the > > > > longevity; if they are in pada rajju (leg), it indicates loss > by > > > > travel or thefts during travels;, etc. > > > > > > > > However, certain nakshatras are exempt from this dosha. > > > > > > > > If the bride and the groom both are born in the following > stars > > - > > > > Rohini, Aridra, Makha, Hasta, Visakha, Sravana, Uttarabhadra, > and > > > > Revati - the match is good even if they are born in the same > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > The compatibility of same nakshatra is middling if both are > > born > > > in > > > > Aswini, Krittika, Mrigasira, Punarvasu, Pusha, Pubba, Uttara, > > > Chitra, > > > > Anuradha, Poorvashada and uttarashada. > > > > > > > > Mrigasirsha, Magha, Swati and Anushya are considered to be > > > > mahanakshatras which are not affected by the deficiency of kuta > > > > points. If the girl or boy is born in one of these 4 > nakshatras, > > > and > > > > if the horoscopes are otherwise compatible, then the alliance > can > > > be > > > > proceeded without paying heed to the rajju dosha. > > > > > > > > What is more important is that the horoscopes of the > prospective > > > > partners should answer the marital yogas found in each other. > For > > > > this you can make use of Ashtavarga charts. A girl born in a > rasi > > > > which has more than 4 bindus in Venus's Ashtavarga of the boy's > > > > horoscope will prove to be auspicious for him. The > delineations > > > from > > > > Venus's ashtavarga should be used to select most auspicious > natal > > > star > > > > of the prospective wife. > > > > > > > > 5) The vimshottari Maha Dasa-Bhukti periods of the horoscopes > are > > > > checked just to ensure that both the horoscopes are not under > > > > challenging planetary influences regarding marital life within > the > > > > next few years. Personally, I do not think much weightage has > to > > > be > > > > given to that. If other compatibility factors are taken into > > > account > > > > properly, even if the couple are faced with challenging > > > circumstances, > > > > nothing will break the bonds formed by their true love for each > > > other. > > > > On the contrary, their relationship will be strengthened with > each > > > and > > > > every challenge that they face together. Ofcourse, opinion of > > > other > > > > experts may differ in this regard due to difference in zonal > > > customs > > > > of horoscopic matching. > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, pankaj sharma > > > > <astrologerpankaj> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dakshinaji, > > > > > Thanks for the invaluable guidance. > > > > > 1.If mars and venus are in angular or trinal position form > > each > > > > other in both horoscopes, would it be fine. Should mars in male > > > chart > > > > and venus in female chart should also be adjudged in the same > way > > .? > > > > > 2. Some astrologers also take in to consideration the > > placement > > > of > > > > Jupiter w.r.t. venus.Which approach is the better? > > > > > 3.Whether relative positions of Sun and Moon in both the > > > horoscope > > > > be seen? > > > > > What may be other planets or other issues involved to gauge > > for > > > > the best compatibility. > > > > > 4. Generally the people( girls and boy) born in the same > pada > > > of > > > > the same nakshatra are considered not good for compatibility. > Why? > > > > Logically, they should be considered best. Is there any > > explanation > > > > for it? > > > > > 5. How much weightage be given to the vimsottri Mahadasa > and > > > > interperiod lords, running at the time of matching in both the > > > charts, > > > > be given for matching? > > > > > Pankaj Sharma > > > > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > Dear Jayaji: > > > > > > > > > > All the combinations you have mentioned are indicators of > good > > > > > compatibility if other factors are also positive between the > > > > > horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.vedic- > astrology, "jayshan2441" > > > > > <jayshan2441> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind and clear enunciation. For the > > > > > > compatibility, you have mentioned that mutual exchange of > the > > > > lagna > > > > > > and 7th Lord in the two horoscopes. What would be the > effect > > if > > > > > > there is mutual exchange of the star lords of lagna and 7th > > > lord > > > > > > between the two horoscopes? > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be the effect if Mars of the boy in the sign > where > > > > Venus > > > > > > is placed in the girl's horoscope? Would it be completely > > > > different? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for clearing the doubts. > > > > > > > > > > > > with warm regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jayaji: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If both the boy and girl belong to the same lagna, much > > > depends > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > general nature arising out of lagna characteristics. In > the > > > > case > > > > > > of > > > > > > > Kataka lagna, we have seen by general delineation that > the > > > > spouse > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the native will enjoy the comforts associated with the > > > exalted > > > > > > status > > > > > > > of the native. So, in such a condition where both are > > kataka > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > natives, there is a possibility that their charts > complement > > > > each > > > > > > > other. In any case, they will complement each other if > > there > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > mutual disposition of 7th house lords or lagna lords, > i.e., > > > if > > > > the > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > lord of one horoscope is in the sign occupied by lagna > lord > > > of > > > > one > > > > > > or > > > > > > > vice versa. Similarly, if Venus in the male horoscope is > in > > > a > > > > > > sign in > > > > > > > which Mars is found in the female horoscope, it is a > strong > > > > > > indicator > > > > > > > of powerful physical attraction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna lord of one horoscope posited in the sign in which > the > > > 5th > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of anothe horoscope is placed indicates a match that > > > fructifies > > > > > > due to > > > > > > > Poorvapunya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is a kuta agreement (above 20 points on a 32 > point > > > > > > scale), > > > > > > > the couple have a good chance of leading a happy marital > > > life. > > > > > > Kuta > > > > > > > agreement can be compared to "Screening tests". They > should > > > be > > > > > > used > > > > > > > for initial screening for compatibility. After that many > > > rules > > > > > > > besides the ones mentioned earlier in this mail have to > be > > > > checked > > > > > > > before clearing a proposal by astrological means. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jayshan2441" > > > > > > <jayshan2441@y. > > > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was very educative to read your points on Aries > lagna > > > and > > > > now > > > > > > > > kataka lagna. In such cases how would it fare if both > the > > > girl > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the boy to be married belong to the same lagna together > > > with > > > > > > kuta > > > > > > > > agreements? Would they complement each other or > confront > > > each > > > > > > other? > > > > > > > > What is the significance if both of their lagnas fall > on > > > the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > pada of the same nakshatra? Is it something special and > do > > > > they > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > good compatibility? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > "dakshinastrologer" > > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small correction to begin with..... Mars - the > > > > > > yogakaraka > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > exalted in the 7th house and not the 8th house for > > Kataka > > > > > > lagna as > > > > > > > > > mentioned in your mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to give the general delineation for that. > > > Mars- > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > yogakaraka for Kataka lagna is also the lord of the > 5th > > > and > > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > > > houses. Its debilitation in lagna and exaltation in > 7th > > > > house > > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > that the native's efforts and resources will have to > be > > > > > > focused on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > welfare of the spouse to a great extent. The > yogakaraka > > > > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > > > in the lagna can indicate that the native is destined > > for > > > a > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > self-denial and sacrifice due to past karmas (Mars's > > > > rulership > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > house indicating purvapunya). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th lord exalted in 7th can indicate that the spouse > of > > > > this > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > can enjoy exalted status that is a reflection of the > > > > native's > > > > > > > > success > > > > > > > > > in his/her profession. A common example can be the > > > respect > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the wives of prominent persons who shine in the > > reflected > > > > > > glory of > > > > > > > > > their spouses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ofcourse this is again a general delineation based > only > > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > > bhava > > > > > > > > > significations without taking into account the > planetary > > > > > > > > dispositions > > > > > > > > > in the individual horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope Shri. 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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Dear Dakshinamoorthiji, Thank you sir, and I do get the point. But what I meant was that I have read in a local book that the placement in houses, i.e. Mars and Venus exchanging houses in the 2 horoscopes, also indicates physical attraction between the partners. That is if in the girl's horoscope Mars is in the 4th and in the boy's horoscope Venus is in the 4th, etc. regardless of the lagna. Since as you have written if the lagna is the same there is no question about it at all. Blessings Renu vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Renuji: > > The placement of Mars in two horoscopes is compared with respect to > the houses in which it is placed. Yes, in this case the house > position is also considered important for "dosha samya". > > There is a belief that even if there is exemption to Mars Dosha in a > horoscope, the matching should be done only with a horoscope that has > similar cancellation of yoga rather than with a "Shuddha jataka" (a > horoscope in which there is no mars dosha condition at all). In these > cases, the house position is also taken into consideration and there > are astrologers who consider that Mars in 4th horoscope should be > matched only with another horoscope that has Mars in 4th and so on. > > I do not give much credulence to this view personally. I feel when > Maharishis like Narada have given exemption to Mars dosha in a > horoscope, then it must be considered that the horoscope is a "Shudda > Jataka" and not an afflicted horoscope. Ofcourse, these are vexed > issues in astrology and even experts are divided on these issues. > > Blessed be. > > vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dakshinamoorthiji, > > > > Thak you sir, for clearing my doubt. I asked this question because I > > have read in a Sinhala [my mother tongue] Astrological book it was > > mentioned that even the house/house placement is countable with > > relevant to Mars/Venus placement in 2 horoscopes. > > > > Blessings > > > > Renu > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > > > They are not the same. The number of the house will vary > depending > > > upon the ascendant of the horoscopes. Whereas the signs are the > > same > > > for all horoscopes. So, if Mars in one horoscope is in the same > > HOUSE > > > as venus in the other horoscope, it means nothing except in cases > > when > > > the ascendant of both horoscopes is the same. > > > > > > Blessed be.vedic astrology, "renunw" > > <renunw@y > > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > > > > > If Mars in one horoscope is in the > > > > HOUSE occupied by Venus in the other, is as the same as Mars in > > one > > > > horoscope is in the SIGN occuoied by Venus in the other. > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Pankaj: > > > > > > > > > > 1) If mars and Venus are in angular or trinal position, that > > is > > > > > preferable even than the actual conjunction in synastry > > (Synastry > > > > > means the combined horoscope in which the planetary positions > > of > > > > two > > > > > persons are compared). Because, if Mars in one horoscope is > in > > > the > > > > > sign occupied by Venus in the other, it may be a match in > which > > > > > infatuation rather than actual soul compatibility may dominate > > > > which > > > > > ofcourse is not the most desirable pattern of relationship. > > > > > > > > > > 2) The mutual placement of lagna lords in each other's > > horoscopes > > > > > should also be preferably in favourable aspects like trinal > > > > position. > > > > > If there is a square aspect between them, then it means the > > couple > > > > > will complement each other and to an extent enjoy a > > relationship > > > in > > > > > which one partner reforms or checks the undesirable > > > characteristics > > > > of > > > > > the other. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Actually comparing the position of Jupiter and Venus is > the > > > > better > > > > > approach. When I was commenting on Mars and Venus positions, > > it > > > > was > > > > > about the factor of physical attraction playing a role in the > > > > > partnership. Jupiter/Venus position comparison denotes soul > > > > > compatibility which is the actual goal of a Dharmic marriage > > where > > > > the > > > > > male and female principles should merge, synchronize and edify > > > each > > > > > other for the welfare of selves and the society. > > > > > > > > > > 4) If Sun in one horoscope is in a sign occupied by moon in > > the > > > > other > > > > > horoscope, it is a good indicator of mental compatibility > where > > > the > > > > > goals and aspirations of the couple may be along the same > lines > > > and > > > > > they will feel a emotionally satisfying relationship. > > > > > > > > > > 5) When the boy and girl are of the same nakshatra, rajju > > > > > compatibility which is mandatory will not be there. For > > instance > > > > if > > > > > both the stars are in udhara rajju (stomach), it is believed > to > > > > harm > > > > > progenic happiness; if they are in kanda rajju (neck), it > > spoils > > > > the > > > > > longevity; if they are in pada rajju (leg), it indicates loss > > by > > > > > travel or thefts during travels;, etc. > > > > > > > > > > However, certain nakshatras are exempt from this dosha. > > > > > > > > > > If the bride and the groom both are born in the following > > stars > > > - > > > > > Rohini, Aridra, Makha, Hasta, Visakha, Sravana, Uttarabhadra, > > and > > > > > Revati - the match is good even if they are born in the same > > > > > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > The compatibility of same nakshatra is middling if both are > > > born > > > > in > > > > > Aswini, Krittika, Mrigasira, Punarvasu, Pusha, Pubba, Uttara, > > > > Chitra, > > > > > Anuradha, Poorvashada and uttarashada. > > > > > > > > > > Mrigasirsha, Magha, Swati and Anushya are considered to be > > > > > mahanakshatras which are not affected by the deficiency of > kuta > > > > > points. If the girl or boy is born in one of these 4 > > nakshatras, > > > > and > > > > > if the horoscopes are otherwise compatible, then the alliance > > can > > > > be > > > > > proceeded without paying heed to the rajju dosha. > > > > > > > > > > What is more important is that the horoscopes of the > > prospective > > > > > partners should answer the marital yogas found in each other. > > For > > > > > this you can make use of Ashtavarga charts. A girl born in a > > rasi > > > > > which has more than 4 bindus in Venus's Ashtavarga of the > boy's > > > > > horoscope will prove to be auspicious for him. The > > delineations > > > > from > > > > > Venus's ashtavarga should be used to select most auspicious > > natal > > > > star > > > > > of the prospective wife. > > > > > > > > > > 5) The vimshottari Maha Dasa-Bhukti periods of the horoscopes > > are > > > > > checked just to ensure that both the horoscopes are not under > > > > > challenging planetary influences regarding marital life within > > the > > > > > next few years. Personally, I do not think much weightage has > > to > > > > be > > > > > given to that. If other compatibility factors are taken into > > > > account > > > > > properly, even if the couple are faced with challenging > > > > circumstances, > > > > > nothing will break the bonds formed by their true love for > each > > > > other. > > > > > On the contrary, their relationship will be strengthened with > > each > > > > and > > > > > every challenge that they face together. Ofcourse, opinion of > > > > other > > > > > experts may differ in this regard due to difference in zonal > > > > customs > > > > > of horoscopic matching. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, pankaj sharma > > > > > <astrologerpankaj> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dakshinaji, > > > > > > Thanks for the invaluable guidance. > > > > > > 1.If mars and venus are in angular or trinal position form > > > each > > > > > other in both horoscopes, would it be fine. Should mars in > male > > > > chart > > > > > and venus in female chart should also be adjudged in the same > > way > > > .? > > > > > > 2. Some astrologers also take in to consideration the > > > placement > > > > of > > > > > Jupiter w.r.t. venus.Which approach is the better? > > > > > > 3.Whether relative positions of Sun and Moon in both the > > > > horoscope > > > > > be seen? > > > > > > What may be other planets or other issues involved to > gauge > > > for > > > > > the best compatibility. > > > > > > 4. Generally the people( girls and boy) born in the same > > pada > > > > of > > > > > the same nakshatra are considered not good for compatibility. > > Why? > > > > > Logically, they should be considered best. Is there any > > > explanation > > > > > for it? > > > > > > 5. How much weightage be given to the vimsottri Mahadasa > > and > > > > > interperiod lords, running at the time of matching in both the > > > > charts, > > > > > be given for matching? > > > > > > Pankaj Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jayaji: > > > > > > > > > > > > All the combinations you have mentioned are indicators of > > good > > > > > > compatibility if other factors are also positive between the > > > > > > horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.vedic- > > astrology, "jayshan2441" > > > > > > <jayshan2441> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind and clear enunciation. For the > > > > > > > compatibility, you have mentioned that mutual exchange of > > the > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > and 7th Lord in the two horoscopes. What would be the > > effect > > > if > > > > > > > there is mutual exchange of the star lords of lagna and > 7th > > > > lord > > > > > > > between the two horoscopes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be the effect if Mars of the boy in the sign > > where > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > is placed in the girl's horoscope? Would it be completely > > > > > different? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for clearing the doubts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with warm regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "dakshinastrologer" > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jayaji: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If both the boy and girl belong to the same lagna, much > > > > depends > > > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > general nature arising out of lagna characteristics. In > > the > > > > > case > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Kataka lagna, we have seen by general delineation that > > the > > > > > spouse > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the native will enjoy the comforts associated with the > > > > exalted > > > > > > > status > > > > > > > > of the native. So, in such a condition where both are > > > kataka > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > natives, there is a possibility that their charts > > complement > > > > > each > > > > > > > > other. In any case, they will complement each other if > > > there > > > > is > > > > > a > > > > > > > > mutual disposition of 7th house lords or lagna lords, > > i.e., > > > > if > > > > > the > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > lord of one horoscope is in the sign occupied by lagna > > lord > > > > of > > > > > one > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > vice versa. Similarly, if Venus in the male horoscope > is > > in > > > > a > > > > > > > sign in > > > > > > > > which Mars is found in the female horoscope, it is a > > strong > > > > > > > indicator > > > > > > > > of powerful physical attraction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna lord of one horoscope posited in the sign in which > > the > > > > 5th > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of anothe horoscope is placed indicates a match that > > > > fructifies > > > > > > > due to > > > > > > > > Poorvapunya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is a kuta agreement (above 20 points on a 32 > > point > > > > > > > scale), > > > > > > > > the couple have a good chance of leading a happy marital > > > > life. > > > > > > > Kuta > > > > > > > > agreement can be compared to "Screening tests". They > > should > > > > be > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > for initial screening for compatibility. After that > many > > > > rules > > > > > > > > besides the ones mentioned earlier in this mail have to > > be > > > > > checked > > > > > > > > before clearing a proposal by astrological means. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jayshan2441" > > > > > > > <jayshan2441@y. > > > > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was very educative to read your points on Aries > > lagna > > > > and > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > kataka lagna. In such cases how would it fare if both > > the > > > > girl > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the boy to be married belong to the same lagna > together > > > > with > > > > > > > kuta > > > > > > > > > agreements? Would they complement each other or > > confront > > > > each > > > > > > > other? > > > > > > > > > What is the significance if both of their lagnas fall > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > pada of the same nakshatra? Is it something special > and > > do > > > > > they > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > good compatibility? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > > "dakshinastrologer" > > > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renuji: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small correction to begin with..... Mars - > the > > > > > > > yogakaraka > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > exalted in the 7th house and not the 8th house for > > > Kataka > > > > > > > lagna as > > > > > > > > > > mentioned in your mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to give the general delineation for that. > > > > > Mars- > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > yogakaraka for Kataka lagna is also the lord of the > > 5th > > > > and > > > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > > > > houses. Its debilitation in lagna and exaltation in > > 7th > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > > that the native's efforts and resources will have to > > be > > > > > > > focused on > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > welfare of the spouse to a great extent. The > > yogakaraka > > > > > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > > > > in the lagna can indicate that the native is > destined > > > for > > > > a > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > self-denial and sacrifice due to past karmas (Mars's > > > > > rulership > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > > house indicating purvapunya). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th lord exalted in 7th can indicate that the > spouse > > of > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > can enjoy exalted status that is a reflection of the > > > > > native's > > > > > > > > > success > > > > > > > > > > in his/her profession. A common example can be the > > > > respect > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the wives of prominent persons who shine in the > > > reflected > > > > > > > glory of > > > > > > > > > > their spouses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ofcourse this is again a general delineation based > > only > > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > bhava > > > > > > > > > > significations without taking into account the > > planetary > > > > > > > > > dispositions > > > > > > > > > > in the individual horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope Shri. Shreenadh will not mind this discussion > > > > running > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > kataka lagna before he could complete the discussion > > on > > > > > Aries > > > > > > > > > lagna. > > > > > > > > > > I had to answer because this point has been raised. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/ > info. > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > (AT) (DOT) > > > > > com > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 has Mars in 4th and so on.I do not give much credulence to this view personally. I feel when Maharishis like Narada have given exemption to Mars dosha in a horoscope, then it must be considered that the horoscope is a "Shudda Jataka" and not an afflicted horoscope. Ofcourse, these are vexed issues in astrology and even experts are divided on these issues.Blessed be.--- In vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw> wrote:>> > Dear Dakshinamoorthiji,> > Thak you sir, for clearing my doubt. I asked this question because I > have read in a Sinhala [my mother tongue] Astrological book it was > mentioned that even the house/house placement is countable with > relevant to Mars/Venus placement in 2 horoscopes.> > Blessings> > Renu> > --- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer> wrote:> >> > Dear Renuji:> > > > They are not the same. The number of the house will vary depending > > upon the ascendant of the horoscopes. Whereas the signs are the > same > > for all horoscopes. So, if Mars in one horoscope is in the same > HOUSE > > as venus in the other horoscope, it means nothing except in cases > when > > the ascendant of both horoscopes is the same.> > > > Blessed be.--- In vedic astrology, "renunw" > <renunw@y> > ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Dakshinamoorthiji> > > > > > If Mars in one horoscope is in the> > > HOUSE occupied by Venus in the other, is as the same as Mars in > one > > > horoscope is in the SIGN occuoied by Venus in the other.> > > > > > Blessings> > > > > > Renu> > > > > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shri. Pankaj:> > > > > > > > 1) If mars and Venus are in angular or trinal position, that > is > > > > preferable even than the actual conjunction in synastry > (Synastry > > > > means the combined horoscope in which the planetary positions > of > > > two > > > > persons are compared). Because, if Mars in one horoscope is in > > the > > > > sign occupied by Venus in the other, it may be a match in which > > > > infatuation rather than actual soul compatibility may dominate > > > which > > > > ofcourse is not the most desirable pattern of relationship.> > > > > > > > 2) The mutual placement of lagna lords in each other's > horoscopes > > > > should also be preferably in favourable aspects like trinal > > > position. > > > > If there is a square aspect between them, then it means the > couple > > > > will complement each other and to an extent enjoy a > relationship > > in > > > > which one partner reforms or checks the undesirable > > characteristics > > > of > > > > the other.> > > > > > > > 3) Actually comparing the position of Jupiter and Venus is the > > > better > > > > approach. When I was commenting on Mars and Venus positions, > it > > > was > > > > about the factor of physical attraction playing a role in the > > > > partnership. Jupiter/Venus position comparison denotes soul > > > > compatibility which is the actual goal of a Dharmic marriage > where > > > the > > > > male and female principles should merge, synchronize and edify > > each > > > > other for the welfare of selves and the society.> > > > > > > > 4) If Sun in one horoscope is in a sign occupied by moon in > the > > > other > > > > horoscope, it is a good indicator of mental compatibility where > > the > > > > goals and aspirations of the couple may be along the same lines > > and > > > > they will feel a emotionally satisfying relationship.> > > > > > > > 5) When the boy and girl are of the same nakshatra, rajju > > > > compatibility which is mandatory will not be there. For > instance > > > if > > > > both the stars are in udhara rajju (stomach), it is believed to > > > harm > > > > progenic happiness; if they are in kanda rajju (neck), it > spoils > > > the > > > > longevity; if they are in pada rajju (leg), it indicates loss > by > > > > travel or thefts during travels;, etc. > > > > > > > > However, certain nakshatras are exempt from this dosha. > > > > > > > > If the bride and the groom both are born in the following > stars > > - > > > > Rohini, Aridra, Makha, Hasta, Visakha, Sravana, Uttarabhadra, > and > > > > Revati - the match is good even if they are born in the same > > > > nakshatra.> > > > > > > > The compatibility of same nakshatra is middling if both are > > born > > > in > > > > Aswini, Krittika, Mrigasira, Punarvasu, Pusha, Pubba, Uttara, > > > Chitra, > > > > Anuradha, Poorvashada and uttarashada.> > > > > > > > Mrigasirsha, Magha, Swati and Anushya are considered to be > > > > mahanakshatras which are not affected by the deficiency of kuta > > > > points. If the girl or boy is born in one of these 4 > nakshatras, > > > and > > > > if the horoscopes are otherwise compatible, then the alliance > can > > > be > > > > proceeded without paying heed to the rajju dosha.> > > > > > > > What is more important is that the horoscopes of the > prospective > > > > partners should answer the marital yogas found in each other. > For > > > > this you can make use of Ashtavarga charts. A girl born in a > rasi > > > > which has more than 4 bindus in Venus's Ashtavarga of the boy's > > > > horoscope will prove to be auspicious for him. The > delineations > > > from > > > > Venus's ashtavarga should be used to select most auspicious > natal > > > star > > > > of the prospective wife.> > > > > > > > 5) The vimshottari Maha Dasa-Bhukti periods of the horoscopes > are > > > > checked just to ensure that both the horoscopes are not under > > > > challenging planetary influences regarding marital life within > the > > > > next few years. Personally, I do not think much weightage has > to > > > be > > > > given to that. If other compatibility factors are taken into > > > account > > > > properly, even if the couple are faced with challenging > > > circumstances, > > > > nothing will break the bonds formed by their true love for each > > > other. > > > > On the contrary, their relationship will be strengthened with > each > > > and > > > > every challenge that they face together. Ofcourse, opinion of > > > other > > > > experts may differ in this regard due to difference in zonal > > > customs > > > > of horoscopic matching.> > > > > > > > Blessed be.> > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, pankaj sharma > > > > <astrologerpankaj> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Dakshinaji,> > > > > Thanks for the invaluable guidance.> > > > > 1.If mars and venus are in angular or trinal position form > > each > > > > other in both horoscopes, would it be fine. Should mars in male > > > chart > > > > and venus in female chart should also be adjudged in the same > way> > .?> > > > > 2. Some astrologers also take in to consideration the > > placement > > > of > > > > Jupiter w.r.t. venus.Which approach is the better?> > > > > 3.Whether relative positions of Sun and Moon in both the > > > horoscope > > > > be seen?> > > > > What may be other planets or other issues involved to gauge > > for > > > > the best compatibility.> > > > > 4. Generally the people( girls and boy) born in the same > pada > > > of > > > > the same nakshatra are considered not good for compatibility. > Why? > > > > Logically, they should be considered best. Is there any > > explanation > > > > for it?> > > > > 5. How much weightage be given to the vimsottri Mahadasa > and > > > > interperiod lords, running at the time of matching in both the > > > charts, > > > > be given for matching?> > > > > Pankaj Sharma> > > > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer> wrote:> > > > > Dear Jayaji:> > > > > > > > > > All the combinations you have mentioned are indicators of > good > > > > > compatibility if other factors are also positive between the > > > > > horoscopes.> > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.vedic-> astrology, "jayshan2441" > > > > > <jayshan2441> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Guruji> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind and clear enunciation. For the > > > > > > compatibility, you have mentioned that mutual exchange of > the > > > > lagna > > > > > > and 7th Lord in the two horoscopes. What would be the > effect > > if > > > > > > there is mutual exchange of the star lords of lagna and 7th > > > lord > > > > > > between the two horoscopes? > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be the effect if Mars of the boy in the sign > where > > > > Venus > > > > > > is placed in the girl's horoscope? Would it be completely > > > > different?> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for clearing the doubts.> > > > > > > > > > > > with warm regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Jayaji:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If both the boy and girl belong to the same lagna, much > > > depends > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > general nature arising out of lagna characteristics. In > the > > > > case > > > > > > of > > > > > > > Kataka lagna, we have seen by general delineation that > the > > > > spouse > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the native will enjoy the comforts associated with the > > > exalted > > > > > > status > > > > > > > of the native. So, in such a condition where both are > > kataka > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > natives, there is a possibility that their charts > complement > > > > each > > > > > > > other. In any case, they will complement each other if > > there > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > mutual disposition of 7th house lords or lagna lords, > i.e., > > > if > > > > the > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > lord of one horoscope is in the sign occupied by lagna > lord > > > of > > > > one > > > > > > or > > > > > > > vice versa. Similarly, if Venus in the male horoscope is > in > > > a > > > > > > sign in > > > > > > > which Mars is found in the female horoscope, it is a > strong > > > > > > indicator > > > > > > > of powerful physical attraction.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna lord of one horoscope posited in the sign in which > the > > > 5th > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of anothe horoscope is placed indicates a match that > > > fructifies > > > > > > due to > > > > > > > Poorvapunya.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is a kuta agreement (above 20 points on a 32 > point > > > > > > scale), > > > > > > > the couple have a good chance of leading a happy marital > > > life. > > > > > > Kuta > > > > > > > agreement can be compared to "Screening tests". They > should > > > be > > > > > > used > > > > > > > for initial screening for compatibility. After that many > > > rules > > > > > > > besides the ones mentioned earlier in this mail have to > be > > > > checked > > > > > > > before clearing a proposal by astrological means.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jayshan2441" > > > > > > <jayshan2441@y.> > > > > > > ..> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Guruji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was very educative to read your points on Aries > lagna > > > and > > > > now > > > > > > > > kataka lagna. In such cases how would it fare if both > the > > > girl > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the boy to be married belong to the same lagna together > > > with > > > > > > kuta > > > > > > > > agreements? Would they complement each other or > confront > > > each > > > > > > other? > > > > > > > > What is the significance if both of their lagnas fall > on > > > the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > pada of the same nakshatra? Is it something special and > do > > > > they > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > good compatibility?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and Best Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > "dakshinastrologer" > > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Renuji:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small correction to begin with..... Mars - the > > > > > > yogakaraka > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > exalted in the 7th house and not the 8th house for > > Kataka > > > > > > lagna as > > > > > > > > > mentioned in your mail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to give the general delineation for that. > > > Mars- > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > yogakaraka for Kataka lagna is also the lord of the > 5th > > > and > > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > > > houses. Its debilitation in lagna and exaltation in > 7th > > > > house > > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > that the native's efforts and resources will have to > be > > > > > > focused on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > welfare of the spouse to a great extent. The > yogakaraka > > > > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > > > in the lagna can indicate that the native is destined > > for > > > a > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > self-denial and sacrifice due to past karmas (Mars's > > > > rulership > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > > house indicating purvapunya).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th lord exalted in 7th can indicate that the spouse > of > > > > this > > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > can enjoy exalted status that is a reflection of the > > > > native's > > > > > > > > success > > > > > > > > > in his/her profession. A common example can be the > > > respect > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the wives of prominent persons who shine in the > > reflected > > > > > > glory of > > > > > > > > > their spouses.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ofcourse this is again a general delineation based > only > > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > > bhava > > > > > > > > > significations without taking into account the > planetary > > > > > > > > dispositions > > > > > > > > > in the individual horoscopes.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope Shri. 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